Muv-Luv Schwarzesmarken

Well, I'm sure we would, if more than three of us had a comprehensive understanding of Japanese.

>>13493632
>I think the description of war with beta is very great, several great battles.
how many brutally die?

>>13493740

What, of the main cast?

They're more human casualties than they are BETA, really. Beatrix kills Pham, Sylvia and possibly Walter, Lyz is executed by Theo because of circumstances, Axmann apparently kills Gretel and mortally wounds Irisdina, and Theo shanks Beatrix with a TSF's knife. Only Theo, Katia and Anette survive out of the squad.

>>13493762
But the first game only includes the first three volumes of the novel. The battles are focused on Beta.

>>13493820

In that case, no.

The only character of any prominence who gets maimed by the BETA is some Junker girl who shows up in the first novel, and even then the BETA don't even kill her - Iris puts a bullet through her head to put her out of her misery.

>>13493762

Lise kills Pham. Everything else is true though

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>>13493632

Probably, or at least I'd rip the CGs. I've had a crush on Beatrix for years. I've always wondered, how'd she go out? Full of rage, or was it anguish; was she accepting or was she in shock? What were her final words?

>>13493852

Yeah, Inghilde and Vivi are the only named deaths to BETA in the main story.

>>13494470

So Iris and her hate each other over the whole Jurgen thing, right?

>>13494525


It's a little more complicated than that. It has to do with the "Moonlight Night" incident of 1978 (which BiS is building up too), where Katia's father (Lt General Alfred Strachwitz) and everyone related to him were rounded up by the stasi, never to be seen again. Both Irisdina and Beatrix blame each other for whatever happened that night. Beatrix was a stasi ensign under Axmann at that time (Abel forced her into it though), and Iris informed (probably under duress/torture) on her brother, so it's uncertain who's telling the whole truth.

5年前(1978年頃)の”月光の夜”事件で カティアの父アルフレート・シュトラハヴィッツ中将が首謀者として アイリスの兄も仲間として粛正されたわけだが 1983年の7月の終業式のスピーチでグレーテルが アルフレート・シュトラハヴィッツ中将を国
民的英雄として言及している (つまり”月光の夜”事件より前ということになる) 東ドイツの環境汚染問題の一端を知る 夏休み明けの9月にシュタージのベアトリクス・ブレーメ少尉(当時)にガクブルな目に遭わされる

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>>13493632

What routes do you guys want? What routes are you expecting (aside from Iris cause that's going to happen no matter what)?

>>13493632
Yes have it preorderd on Amazon but I think I might want to change it over to the Iris pre-order bonus instead.

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>>13494883

To each his own, I guess. I'll admit, Iris's poster does look nicer what with having an actual background, even if Beatrix is my favorite.

I hope they don't fuck up the anime. I cry if we get Eclipse QUALITY. shibaken doesn't deserve this.

>>13495585
It will likely be even worse than Eclipse in regards to QUALITY.

>>13495593
>It will likely be even worse than Eclipse in regards to QUALITY.
well at least the soundtrack will be awesome.

>>13495737

>fripSide

Soundtrack will be decent, but hardly "awesome"?

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They redesigned Axmann again. Not as much of a change as the first retool, but he's looking less pretty now.

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>>13495855

Good. Bishonen Axmann was weird.

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>>13495855

Wonder if they're implying anything by giving him the same color palette as Theo (red hair, green eyes). It could mean nothing, but this is anime...

>>13493686
It's ok, OP doesn't know English
"Do you guys will play the"

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Soon!

>>13495875
His eyes look more amber and his hair looks more brown (with a reddish tint) to me.

>>13495847
>>fripSide
>Soundtrack will be decent, but hardly "awesome"?
Intro/Opening song =/= OST dude

>>13495932
>>13495875

We won't really be able to call anything until we get better scans.

>>13495876

He's probably one of the guys over on the Chinese translation sites (has a similar speech pattern to the few who hang out and leak stuff on the wiki to us). They've pretty much got the majority of SM, and bits of its prequel translated.

>>13495875
Oh dammit if they'll pull that stupid relatives card again.

>shogun
>top gun
>and maybe Axmann now

So who's the blood relative in TDA?

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>>13495861
NOOOOO!!!
LIZ!!!! ;_;

schwarzesmarken OP: https://youtu.be/2wd0uZQWcSQ

>>13493632
Is this going to have H-scenes or is it going to be like TE?

Also, how did TE do in sales? I mean, it has to be one of the first Age games without porn. I'm asking cause I heard that Mahoyo sort of flopped for Type moon..

>>13497028
expected better montage, nice spoiler at the end but i'm sure it's going to start later when those fuckers are already dead

>>13497028
bad song desu

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>>13497039

It'll be like TE (you think Yukarin would sign on to an eroge). Though there might be sex, it'd probably be handled with fade to blacks or with implications rather than graphic detail.

Alright, SM news on the stream.

>>13497084
Anime delayed until april.

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>>13497089

Delay are Age's specialty. I'm just happy the VN only has had one delay so far.

>>13497028

I'm assuming that red haired stasi chick holding Pham at gunpoint was the one who flew wingman for Lise and got cut in half by Annette, right?

>>13497089
Lies. If they were delaying the anime they'd put out a proper press release.

>>13496761

Theo never knew his birth parents; he could be blood related to anyone.

>>13497115
Bratty Saviour's looking mighty smug

>>13497028

You can't make out shit in your video. Here's the HD version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TOlNWbU1A0

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>>13497134
WTF?

>>13497173
The flower is on the Vietnamese girl's head.

>>13497206
That was not a 'wtf are the references' but a 'wtf are they doing in there?' comment.

THE SINS NEVER DIE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg75tvW_2ig

>>13497121
anyone would look like that between those 2 cuties

>>13497028
Toaru kagaku no Schwarzesmarken

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>>13497134
the edginess at the end

>>13497346

The shit the humans do to each other in SM is way worse than anything the BETA do.

>>13497303
Yeah, I can't say FripSide is my first choice of artists for ML OP music. I don't really like it. It doesn't fit very well.

>>13497360
I didn't like GOING GOING at first either but it all worked out in the end.

>>13497477
No, no it did not work out in the end.

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>>13497311
>> 3DPD

>>13497028
>>13497134
everyone is going to die aren't they? fucking nazis

>>13497503
Go back to your containment board.

>>13497954
Go back to facebook.

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Which SM girl is /m/'s favorite?

http://strawpoll.me/5996505

>>13497987
who's the white haired bitch? I pick her

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>>13498035

>not knowing the name of your prospective waifu

Its Sylwia.

>>13497987
>Memetrix winning

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>>13498044

Cool your heels. Its just nine votes so far. Though the chances of another girl winning aren't very good.

and who are you calling Memetrix

>>13498040
what the fuck kind of spelling is that?

I shoulda picked Pham, that's a good name

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>>13498064

It's Polish, you know, because she's from Poland.

>>13497987
THEO

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>>13497503
>>13497977
I will make sure to post Katia's seiyuu occasionally to trigger you whenever SM starts airing. Webm related.

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>>13498069
oh god I picked a polak, fuck me

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>>13498044

>Memetrix

>>13498081
who eats two different sandwiches at once? shit manners/10 would not listen to.

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>>13498082
>>13498064

You'd rather have voted for the Vietnamese chick over the Polack. God, you're dull.

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>>13498095

>>13498081
it's the start of one of those puke jav?

so what, if any, silver lining exists in SM? where does it come full circle with resolution?

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>>13498127

SM has a really good cast, and the designs are all gorgeous.

Beatrix is a good tsf pilot, or it's just her machine being good?

don't spoil me pls

>>13498157
>MiG-23
>good
laughingtomcats.jpg

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>>13498157

She's just slightly below Iris in skill. The only reason Theo was able to kill her was because her machine had already been severely damaged by getting ganged up on by the 666 and by using some techniques that Iris used to beat her back when they were still friends.

>>13498207

She was using red Mig-27 custom by the end though.

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>>13498157

She's really good. She graduated top of the class, second only to Iris (and it was extremely close too) back at the NVA Air Academy.

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Why is Theo such a bitch?

>>13498231
I think the important quest is which is Beatrix:
Thong
G-String
Commando

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>>13498253

I'd probably see her wearing a thong, or going full out commando.

Her sultriness is mostly a tool she uses to either get what she wants or to troll men (and women) though. Around Jurgen, she's a markedly different person.

>>13498253
>Thong
>G-String
Both.

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>>13498272

Guess what I got anon.

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>>13498296

>>13498248

He's doing Beatrix and Jürgen next

>>13497173
Still disappointed Otto wasn't modeled after Roundel.

>>13497987
I like all of 'em. Deal with it.

>>13498064
In central and eastern Europe, W is equivalent to V in the Anglosphere and Romance languages.

>>13498082
Problem?

>>13498157
Ramba Ral scrutiny.jpg

>>13498207
>tomcats
>Eastern Bloc

wut

>>13498231
>Air Academy

My previous comment regarding nomenclature for hierarchical organization stands. Where's Philip when you need him?

>>13498319
>Eastern Bloc TSFs
>Good
laughingNATO.jpg

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>>13498319
How do you people know the most unnecessary spoilers in the world and not that the US used F14s in Germany as part of the western assistance.

>>13498343

We're bad at skimming Chinese translation.

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>>13498371
Well fucking stop doing it then.

I suspect the game/anime will likely shove in some early model Su's they just released designs for.

>>13498343
They weren't involved in the East German putsch.

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>>13497987
>>13498053

When will people learn that Beatrix is not a waifu, she's a murderous sociopath? Guess many people are superficial enough to fall for her mesmerizing beauty instead of looking deeper to uncover the truly monstrous individual she is.

>>13498786

Beatrix is complicated.

In Manipulated Victory, she actually saves the 666 from the BETA (after trolling Iris), in Red Star & Hammer, she shows an obvious contempt for Soviet leadership and pisses off her Russian handler on purpose (showing she's not as hardcore communist as you'd be lead to believe), and in Cage of the Stasi she doesn't seem to take any particular pleasure like Axmann would in executing defectors. She's doing a job, she doesn't gloat or draw it out, she doesn't smile; she just asks for their final words and then has them shot, before sighing "It is done." In fact, she's actually veers from being cold and unemotional to angry about the whole situation. Of course, then you have other stories such as Requiem where she taunts Gretel, caressing her face and telling her that her parents were the only thing that saved her from her boyfriend's fate.

>>13498786
>When will people learn that Beatrix is not a waifu
But it said favorite / tickles your pickle, not waifu.

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>>13498827

I'd waifu Beatrix, even knowing what she is.

>>13498816

Beatrix doesn't even kill Martin though; he's still alive at the end of the series. I don't know why Beatrix told Gretel that other than to fuck with her.

>>13498081
>>using the word trigger seriously

I thought about giving you the "go to another board/site" treatment but then I realised you might not even realise how stupid you sound.

To say it clearly and short: fuck off with your 3D shit.

>>13499078
And you can go back to /jp/ and keep pretending you really do never leave your room and don't have a job, honest.

Do you feel like you fit in yet?
Do you even remember why you came here?

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>>13494643
Silwia/Sylvia and Lise bad end routes (kind of like Marimo and Yuuko "bad end" routes; except both really do have a bad end).

Beatrix and Irisdina are likely normal routes though.

Don't think there will be an actual good end route.

>>13499094

If you think that is a /jp/ only thing then man, you really haven't been to these boards for a long time.

Why the hell do you even start that "fitting in" shit? Nobody cares about it and they will not. Remember why? Because this is still an ANONYMOUS imageboard. If I cared about a following I would not even bother posting here.

Do yourself a favor and stop acting like your above the rest.

By the way, why would I pretend about not having a job and never leaving my house if that is exactly what I do? Didn't expect that possibility now did you? How ye feel now faggot? Proud that you have more than me?

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>>13499097

Sylwia gets together with Walter though. Gretel's also off the table because she's still looking for her boyfriend.

I'm hoping they'll be a Beatrix route (if there is one, it'll probably be a side route in Lise's story) but it probably isn't happening, even if she's considered to be elder god tier along with Iris over in Japan. I don't see how they'd feasibly write it in. She'll probably end up being the final boss that you'll have to kill brutally in all three of the routes.

>>13499153
no, but "3dpd" is /jp/ shit that people on /m/ don't really care about. we talk about IRL people all the time, both male (VAs like Toshiyuki Morikawa) and female (singers like MIQ, the actress from live-action Patlabor, etc). it's fine if you don't care for 3d, but in that case just enjoy the anime girls instead of chimping out because other people might like IRL cosplay or whatever.

>>13499177

There's enough moral ambiguity in SM where they could probably write a stasi route and still make it seem kinda logical for Theo. The rebels aren't exactly saints either with their paranoia, summary executions and torture of prisoners, and their revenge mentality. You ask me, they pretty much all deserved to get swamped by the BETA.

>>13499094
>>13499196
3DPD is primarily an /a/ thing you colossal retard.

>>13498095
Forcing Minami Tanaka to consume food and say Ume-nyaa~ is the best thing WUG has given us.

>>13499177
>Sylwia gets together with Walter though

Never understood that; it seemed completely out of left field.

>>13499319
Most things do without any fucking context.

>>13499342
Explain then.

>>13499319

To be fair, before they released the prequel, I thought Beatrix was a spurned psychotic lesbian obsessing over Irisdina.

>>13499489

He's saying the book contextualizes it and shows/hints at the relationship buildup. It doesn't just come out of the blue.

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>>13499518

> I thought Beatrix was a spurned psychotic lesbian obsessing over Irisdina.

That's cause the author intentionally left their history a void. It's something he's done with a few of the other characters so he can sell more side stories (basically LN DLCs). The 2channers complained a lot about it when volume VII wrapped up. There were enough hints however that a couple still managed to put 2 and 2 together and say that the major schism was probably over Iris's brother. Most went with the psycho lesbian theory though (probably because it was more amusing).

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>>13499563
>>13499518

It's because it looks like she's flirting with Iris in half their interactions. Beatrix is like an evil Munkata. She's not serious with it; she's doing it because Iris is an extreme Christfag and that sort of stuff would piss her off.

>>13499563
They released sidestory compilations between volume 3 and 4 and between 5 and 6 already, that's an inherent characteristic of the way the series was released to start with and adding exclusive content for TSF Cross Operation and junk.

It would be pretty much a miracle to get any kind of secondary backstory in any first version main work in the Muv-Luv franchise at this point.

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>>13499681

It still kinda sucks that major, earth shattering character revelations are stuck in side material. You don't get a grasp of who these people are so their motivations and actions end up lacking context. Lise's side story, for instances, is locked away in Requiem. So is Gretel's. Beatrix is a pretty horrible person just going off of SM, but the prequel actually makes her sympathetic. The main story shouldn't need side material to make sense; it should stand on its own, self contained.

>>13499761

Man, many of us who can are struggling through it. I'm not certain what I know is accurate, and I'm not going to start spreading misinformation until I'm sure.

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>>13498786
>not a waifu, a murderous sociopath

Anon, you're not making any sense here.

>on screen unvoiced protagonist again
Please stop.

I guess I can still pray he's only Will levels of on screen in cockpit CGs and not a silent dude standing in the middle of conversation scenes like Yuuya.

>>13499761
Your entitlement is what many people hate about the English speaking community.

You've got an anime coming and a developer that believes you would give them $5 for their literal shits right now, have some patience or find a way to read Japanese, some janky third hand explanation won't give you that much joy.

>>13499177
>Sylwia gets together with Walter though.

Still wouldn't stop a possible bad end route (legitimately bad end). It'd just veer off into a short ending, like the Unlimited Yuuko route.

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>>13499974
>>13499097
>>13494643

Don't kid yourselves. The three routes are going to be Iris, Lise, and Katia. Of all the girls, those are the only ones who admit they have feelings for him in the novel.

Sylvia's and Gretel are taken, so unless Age wants to write some NTR, it ain't happening.
Theo wouldn't want to penetrate Beato with anything other than a combat knife, even if he does think she's extremely hot (sides, she already has BiS to be main girl in).
Pham and Annette are possibilities, but unlikely simply because they don't have the plot presence or fan adulation the other girls get (they weren't even in the popularity poll).
Kirke is even less likely than Beatrix to happen.

I hope I'm wrong. Having 2 out of 3 routes be imouto routes would be tiresome.

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>>13500161

>age
>writing NTR

It's more likely than you think.

>>13499177
Age never, ever does inter-protag NTR. Yuuko wasn't a virgin in ML, but you still couldn't fuck her in that prequel game because Takeru fucked her.

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>>13497115
>all those december birthdays
sure it is a packed month

>>13500195

The difference is, is that Jürgen's dead. Other than that, I completely agree with you. From a meta perspective, a Beatoroute would simple never ever happen, especially if they decide to go through and write Schwarzesmarken Extra.

There is Kimimuv though >>13500193 , but the NTR is a plotpoint and the NTRer is the antagonist.

>>13500232
If only Takeru could NTR that loser's harem away from him once and for all and add them to his harem. They deserve better than him.

>>13497371
Are those cankles? Jesus Christ. Go burn it at the stake.

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>>13500243
mitsuki deserves better.

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>>13500506

Mitsuki got the boy she deserved.

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anyone ever been to the holy site?

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>>13500557

>go to the tree on the hill
>everyone is yelling at each other and having dramatic moments
>another couple or group of friends is having their own dilemma a few feet from the last
>tfw

>>13500595
I swear all the collective drama the tree has absorbed through the years must be the reason why the BETAs haven't attacked extra verse yet

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>>13497115
>Touko
Oh baby.

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Yuzuka is love.
Yuzuka is life.
Yuzuka my wife.

>>13500595
I wonder if that tree has got some dark power that brings bad luck to all those who want to tell them their love ...

>>13500557

does anyone know where this is in Japan? I tried reverse image search on this but I only get results of other trees

>>13500545
> wearing swimsuit in class

S L U T Y A S E
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>>13501733
Fuck off with that waifuwars, go back to /a/ for that.

>>13501741
>implying /m/ doesn't have waifuwars
granted it's with robots but the same concept applies

>>13501745
>implying waifuwars is a good thing
You can fuck off to /jp/

>>13501753
>/jp/
>waifuwars
That's just playful banter between weebs

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>>13501733
>>13501741
>>13501745
>>13501753

Muv Luv is uniquely suited towards bitter waifufaggotry. This has been apparent since the beginning and has only gotten worse with each new iteration in the series. Schwarzesmarken is looking to be the worse, as not only are the two most popular/best girls top tier characters/designs, they're also trying to kill each other.

>>13501948
and they also die

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>>13501969

Didn't stop Cryska vs Yui from happening. I predict Beatrix vs Iris is going to be a shitton worse (even if there seems to be more crossover between the two fan camps)

>>13501948
>Muv Luv
You can't even spell it right. It's Muv-Luv, with the line. Secondly, Muv-Luv's just as suited for waifufaggotry as any haremshit series.

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>>13501988

It's weird because Beatrix isn't even a romantic option like Yui or Cryska. The only interactions between her and MC are threats/violence, even if Theo pops a "Why boner?" every time he sees her. You'd think it'd come down to Iris vs Lise vs Katia.

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>>13502014

Don't be so pedantic anon.

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>>13502015
> romantic option
> Cryska

what's the point of Cryska btw?
i mean, that dead slav doesn't get what it was all about.

>>13502020
>misspelling is ok
Don't be an idiot, it's not a matter of being pedantic, but getting the name right. I swear to God some day kewl will be an official alternative spelling for cool because of faggots like you.

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>>13502030

I think she gets it: >>13497082

>>13502037

That's kewl anon. Someone's gotta police the internet's grammar.

>>13502045

He does it for free.

>>13502045
Why would you even want to be willingly incorrect?

>>13502064

I don't (well, sometimes I do), but I also don't think it's a big deal.

>>13502014
Nobody cares about your autistic -.

>>13502098
>nobody cares
>what is âge
>what is ixtl
>what are fans who know what they're talking about

>>13502098
>>13502107
You two need to fuck

how many years euro front it's going to be delayed?

>>13502633

Dunno? Wasn't TE delayed for 7 years before they picked it back up?

>>13502633
If they were a normal company they'd release Eurofront after they're finished with English localization. The SM hype would still be fresh, and japs would be interested in how all that bullshit affected the modern Germany. But this is age, so my bet is on SM => TDA => Melvina Maniax => Eurofront. Basically another 5-7 years.

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>>13502828
Melvina Maniax is mostly done and wouldn't take a development cycle. It's pretty much being finished simultaneous to Schwaken because of different artists.

Duty Lost Arcadia has practically nothing to do with Schwarzesmarken besides the hint one of the characters might appear that doesn't seem to have come to anything yet. Cerberus is like a totally different part of the West German military from Huckebein even.

Euro Front currently seems to be riding popularity from the mobage if anything.

>>13502681
>serialization started the last week of 2007
>game development announced in 2009
>game released in 2013
Yeah that math totally checks out. It was really only delayed by maybe a couple years, and that's a combination of the general clusterfuck age was in the early 2010s, putting it off to coincide with the anime, firing the main artist during development, and usual age delays.

>>13502030
>TE
lrn2spell

>>13502015

Beatrix is pretty much "why boner" incarnate. Sexiest girl in the franchise happens to be the most evil. It's almost unfair.

>>13502921
>Melvina is done
That explains my lack of TDA.

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Will the NVA uniforms in the anime have proper raindrop camo patterns, or will they just be plain brown like the Soviet BDUs in Total Eclipse were plain green?

>>13503755
Who the fuck knows. It's more likely because it applies to the main cast but then you have to wonder whether the relative ease of making it look okay outweighs how little difference it makes as far as how much more subtle it is.

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>>13503755

Probably not.

>>13499956
In all fairness, just because we got the original trilogy and some of the peripheral works doesn't necessarily mean we'll be getting all the other publications (particularly the light novels) as well.

>>13502030
>image

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nN95L40i6I

>>13503755
look like shit if they use this pattern in the animation

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>>13503836
It's a little darker and really high density so it's only clear in close ups.

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>>13497987
>>13498053

>Beatrix winning

I guess for once us and the Japanese are in agreement over who is best girl.

Does anyone have a link to KNG's stash? I need to redownload Altered Fable

>>13504181
So what is it, the tits, the whole package, the crazy, or that slutty look in her eyes.

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>>13504206

She's really hot. Like, canonically, in text, she's the hottest girl in SM. Theo hates her with the rage of a thousand burning stars and he's still attracted to her. Her design reflects this perfectly, and draws people who'd normally be repulsed by her actions to her.

It's not totally skin deep though. She has many positives along with the negatives. She's as good of a leader as Iris, and her subordinates absolutely adore her. She won't order her subordinates to do anything she's not willing to do herself, and she saves some of the most dangerous and dirtiest tasks for herself.

The prequel has boosted her popularity like crazy too. Before, I'd say she was fourth or fifth most popular SM girl, but the prequel showed that she's actually a top-tier girl. It's also shows her to be a tragic, broken person, which tends to draw the waifufags in like flies to honey.

This isn't to mention that she also has the best voice actress in the cast doing her lines.

All in all, she's a fun and charismatic villain. She's someone you know you should hate, but kinda want to root for nonetheless.

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>>13504285
>>13504206

She's also a huge gadfly, prankster, and all around troll. People tend to like that personality type; just look at all the love Munkata gets.

>>13504285
Nojou as Irisdina is good. Quite good even, but in the end just making the best of the casting limitations of taking avex money again.

Yukarin's crazy bitch voice is one of the absolute best voices in anime and is not just bigger than Beatrix herself but maybe Schwaken entirely. That's the one major casting choice Yoshimune got to do outside the avex circle and I think probably fully with that in mind.


TE suffered in that it had such a long gestation period that by the time the voiced works came out many of the secondary characters that weren't cast ahead of time had more relevant seiyuu to the current time period. Sakura Nogawa dropped off the face of the Earth besides Strike Witches after 2007 for one.

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>>13504379

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/wac/index.htm?process=7&escurl=../character10_esc.html

I fucking loved her lines and how she alternates between insulting, threatening, and hitting on you, all using Yukarin's sexy voice. I do think it's funny that the two villains are such huge VAs compared to the rest of the cast. Usually, you'd expect a VA like Yukarin to be the main girl, unless their was another big name VA.

>>13504411

She likes her legs and face stroked. Anything else and you'll activate her bitch mode eventually.

It's the same way with Iris, cept instead of her legs she likes you to stroke her hair and face.

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>>13504328
delicious trollakata
I'd liked her to have a bit more of screen time in Alt

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>>13504450

She gets to be the main heroine in one of the side stories. Age even give her some of the finest sex scenes ever featured in any of their works :

http://www5.mirusoft.com/databank/nijicon/data/bbs_moeren_syousaikibou_ura/11388952511666.jpg

tfw no Beatrix sex scenes

>>13504411
It's not really that odd. When you're dealing with budget limitations your up front casting choices tend to be junior seiyuu that either your sponsor is in favour of or your casting director likes while the back end characters like villains with less lines and PR involvement have more freedom to use higher paid veterans. It's similar to Kiniro Mosaic or Robot Girls Z.

There's also a pretty strong argument that villains are more demanding voice roles anyways, since they need to be much more immediately charismatic to connect with the audience.

They can also go huge on the main protagonists because they aren't having them voiced in the games anyways. That's a trend you can see with most VN adaptions.

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>>13504504

Yeah, that makes sense. Wonder what they'd do if they decided to adapt BiS into a VN, considering Beatrix is the main girl in that.

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>>13503416
> imply i refer totally to TE
no you.

>>13503834
mah nigga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09m0B8RRiEE

>>13504528
I'm working on the assumption it will probably be much shorter in which case they might just be able to do it full voice like Burning Capital.

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>>13504560

I heard that they plan for BiS to run from around 9-12 chapters, only a quarter of the length of SM.

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>>13504379

I can't wait to hear more of Yukarin's take on best girl.

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>>13504766

That's a pretty cute Beatrix.

>>13504547
>arguing Japanese spelling with an uncultured swine
my mistake, carry on

>>13504854
ok, i get what you mean now.
& it's your mistake to begin with, as i saved it from the past ML thread & never make that up.

>>13504776

It's the way her peaked cap looks just slightly too big for her head. Also, the author's specialty is in drawing moe, not sexy.

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Irisdina has such a generic design. Doesn't mean that I don't think she's a good character, but it's difficult to tell her apart from the dozens of other blue-eyed, blond, long haired anime chicks.

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>>13503862

Why are her boobs always changing size?

>>13506561
different artist

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>>13505858
It's because Hitler escaped to Japan at the end of WWII and became the creator of Japanimation.

Since then everyone is paying him respect by making the same kind of purest Aryan waifu.

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>>13506667

Does that make Beatrix a Jew?

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>>13506607

I kinda like the new artist. He seems better at anatomy than Carnelian.

Also, I noticed that 90% of the boobs featured in the OP PV had erect nipples. Does that mean that they're making a comeback?

>>13504411

I hope gretel says she's going to become the sexiest middle school idol in all of japan. Beatrix can do some befriending too.

>>13506740

That's kinda funny, because one of the things Beatrix does before befriending her subordinates is beat them up in a TSF spar.

>>13506731
Carnelian was shit, the new one is better in every respect.

>>13506718
fourtanly 13yo girls don't look like this

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>>13506748

Hot.

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He draws a cuter loli than Carnelian, that's for sure.

; _ ;

>>13506769

Meant to link to >>13506757

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>>13506765

Yes it is:

>>13506764

How is that a good thing?

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>>13506718
>>13506764

Anyone else weirded out that Jurgen, a 17 year old, would describe a 13 year old as one of the most attractive girls he's ever laid eyes on? Kinda setting off some pedo alarms there.

>>13506833
Given that he's only 4 years older than she is, no. Not really at all.

>>13506796

I really hope she gets a lot of cgs and doujins. She reminds me of annerose from that lilith soft eroge. The bills in her stockings makes my beer mug overflow constantly. She has no business being that sexy.

>>13506842

He's probably American. They throw dudes in jail the day they turn 18 if their girlfriends are still under that age. Sides, Beatrix definitely does not look like a normal 13 year old in that pic.

>>13506852

She is in-character the sexiest and most beautiful girl in SM.

Also, others have made the connection: >>13498083

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>>13506852

She won't be appearing much in the first VN. Going of off the first three volumes and TSFiA, she'll appear once to threaten the 666, then again to bail them out when they get encircled by BETA, then one last time to set her anti-Iris plans in motion. The second half is where the story starts to focus on her more.

>>13506877

Well I know absolutely nothing about sm so I'll be going in blind to the vn. I guess I can't be disappointed if I don't know.

>>13506877
>>13506796
>>13506718

What'd'ya think sex with her would be like?

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>>13506905

Google Koutetsu no Majo Annerose and skip to the final sex scene.

>>13506920
the bad end with the giant orc?

>>13506939

Meant to say the final sex scene of the first episode.

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>>13506852
>>13506905

Shame that the only canonical penetration she'll be getting is they type that causes fatal/massive internal bleeding.

>>13506842
Except absolute age gaps don't mean shit in a relationship. You have to consider the ages of the two parties as well since that takes into account their level of maturity.

A four-year gap for people in their 20s is pretty ordinary, but a four-year gap for two people in their teens is really weird. Ever heard of "half your age plus seven"? For Jurgen that would be 15.5, and that's meant to be a lower bound.

Then again I'm on 4chan so I'm not sure what I expected.

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>>13507058
>taking that shit actually seriously
>better yet as some sort of actual biological science
That's literally a meme about what is considered socially awkward in current American society, it has no fucking bearing on anything sexual.

>>13506852
>>13506920
Such a shame the eroge and anime of Annerose are so shit, the designs are fucking awesome.

At least the Kanten manga makes up for it, however.

So....will there ever be a Chronicles 5?

>>13507243
I hope not, TDA is shit.

>>13507249
uwotm8?
TDA is easily the best of the spin-offs.

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>>13507255
You can stop pretending, anon. TDA is shit, you can finally admit to that.

>>13507264
Can you tell me why? I find the story and setting way more interesting than TE and SM.

>>13507267
It's OK anon, you can like shit. Nobody's gonna take that away from you.

>>13507275
Oh I see, you're just shitposting. Guess I should've figured that out earlier.

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>>13507255

>Setting
TDA>SM>TE

>Story
TDA>SM> TE

Characters
SM>TDA>TE

>>13507278
No anon, don't turn away. Face the reality, thins will be much better that way.

>>13507284
I can pretty much agree with this.

I'm really sort of surprised at the amount of love SM characters get in these threads. From what I can tell no English translation of the LNs exist, so any of you who don't know moon or chink can't actually read the story. Which means you're all getting this stuff from secondary sources. I'm legitimately curious as to how there is so much love for characters like Beatrix if you're only getting second-hand info on the story. For me that doesn't feel like enough to gain any sort of attachment to a character.

>>13507310
>From what I can tell no English translation of the LNs exist,
>what is Alternative Projects

>>13507321
Gibberish?

>>13507321
That's only the first three chapters though. They haven't even translated a whole volume.

>>13507334
You need to check your eyes

>>13507337
Yet they're continuing with it. Secondly, there are people who can into moonrunes, not everybody is illiterate little shits who can't into foreign languages.

>>13507342
Yes, I know there are people who into moonrunes. I mentioned that in my original post, if you read it. But I expect the number of people who can read moon well enough to read a LN on this board to be a small fraction of the total number of posters. Certainly smaller than the number of people who talk about SM.

That, or it's just the same five people who always post in this thread.

>>13507342
Following English grammar rules doesn't mean something makes any sense.

>>13507357
These threads are now full of /a/ shitposters that find shitty Chinc spoilers and act like they read something.

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>>13507310

https://alternativeprojects.wordpress.com/schwarzesmarken-ln-translation-page/

http://www.wenku8.com/modules/article/reader.php?aid=1278

http://acg.78dm.net/ct/85691.html#novel_fz

Also, there's a ton of pics of them (pictures are a thousand words, right).

As for Beatrix, she's complicated and I haven't really decided if I love her or not. You can get a good feel for her if you read TFSiA 41,42 and 44. They're relatively short, so even an EOP can get through with google translate.

Whether I end up completely hating her or not won't change the fact that I really want to bone her. The power of lust I suppose. The Japs really love her though, and they tend to hate complete psychos so she can't be all bad?

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Since I guess somebody should know, remember this bullshit?

What Ilfriede actually says is T-Bag, which is funny because she's a gaijin fucking up trying to say the very similar sounding in Japanese T-Back because Ilfriede is a fucking retard.

>>13507374

I don't get it. Why'd she save Irisdina from the BETA?

>>13507468
to boast it in her fucking face

Statistically shouldn't at least one or two of the MC's squadmates be a secret Stasi informant?

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>>13507523

I love how Beatrix's reaction to Iris screaming at her was a trollish "Good luck." Also, Theo's bewilderment was great. Him thinking about how pretty and awesome Beatrix is before remembering she's stasi is pretty funny.

>>13507544

Yes

>>13507544

Who are Irisdina and Lise?

>>13507567
>Lise
>secret
I thought literally everyone in the squad could tell from day one she's an obvious and audaciously blatant Stasi plant

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>>13507583

Pretty much. They warm up to her eventually. Even after she betrays them, Gretel and Annette protest her execution.

Her routes going to be gnarly though and its the one I'm looking forward to the most.

>>13507058
>Ever heard of "half your age plus seven"?
That's just a recent normalfag invention.

I notice nobody talks about Annette much. Does she not have much presence in the story?

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Lise is a good girl.

>>13507604
>>13507583
>>13507567

Is this really worth spoiler tags? There's already been images posted of her in a stasi uniform / fortified suit. It's even spoiled over on Age's site.

>>13507642

She just isn't that interesting, especially when you compare her to Iris, Lise, Gretel and Beatrix.

>>13507659
Is being a faggot worth saving you two seconds of effort

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>>13507667

It's like Inghild's death. People were throwing a bitchfit over something that happened in the first chapter of the LN being unspoiled. I mean, saying Theo disembowels Beatrix, that's worth a spoilertag. I think there's a fine line between when it's appropriate to use spoiler tags and when it's not, otherwise you end up with everything being blacked out. Everyone knows that there's something fishy about Lise. Girl who's supposed to be dead suddenly shows up alive and well. I don't see how her being stasi is such a huge spoiler. If you think about, the fact that she features prominently on cover art and in the character roster is a rather huge spoiler as the story leads you to believe she's dead.

>>13507659
But Pham and Sylwia also get more mention than Annette, who seems to turn up in discussion about as often as poor Walter.

>>13507310
Just wait until it's out so that people can actually see how shit it is kinda like how Unicorn got hyped to hell because nobody read it

>>13507692
Just because something is a relatively minor spoiler doesn't mean you need to go out of your way to do it.

There's also a rather clear distinction between something being suspicious and outright spoiled if you aren't a self important autist.

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>>13507714

Sylwia has a traumatic past, so people talk about that. Pham gets mentioned about as much as Annette.

>>13507715

It has rave reviews (except the ending), if that counts for anything. Personally, the human vs human fights in SM make me a little sick.

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I'm not even sure if ayami sounds so fucking terrible in the game because there's not as good of a voice director to force something decent out or just because they thought it would be a good idea to put her right beside Natsumi Takamori, but wow this is pretty terrible.

I wonder how fucking shit Yuuki is in the prequel.

>>13507310
>any of you who don't know moon or chink can't actually read the story

Yeah, thanks for twisting the CIWS.

>>13507321
On indefinite hiatus when last I checked.

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>>13508050

>Yeah, thanks for twisting the CIWS.

You're welcome.

Anyone know if a translation of TDA 2 or 3 is being worked on?

>>13508142
Probably not until they shit out everything else in Chronicles for inexplicable money.

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>>13507692
>dat pic
FUCK, i didn´t expect that ;_;

>>13507310

Jokes on you I've been studying japanese since 2011. I watch raws and play untranslated jrpgs and vns.

>>13507692
>otherwise you end up with everything being blacked out.
Anyone got that vintage /m/aburabu thread pic? Because threads on /m/ and /jp/ when the patch got leaked were like that and continued to be so for quite a while.

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>>13508158

Oh, Nojou/Minyami ED for Schwaken TV.

Your avex bux in action.

>age
>アージュ
>a jew

It's unlikely, but does anyone have any use for some extra 'J' sprues from the raptor kit? It has a few pieces left over that'll just sit in my box forever.

I think it has some parts that are in the Super Hornet kit.

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>>13508918

>>13506667

All is related.

>>13509611
The designs are really good for now.

I really hope they will avoid as much QUALITY as possible in motion.

>>13509611
Anett feels a bit Tarisa'd, which is at least not Nastassia'd I guess. Not sure what it is about these short haired androgynous designs that they can't convert them to anime and stay pretty.

>>13509631
>The designs are really good for now.
No, they're generic anime military characters. There's very little good in there.

>>13509665
They are following the original designs. It was already generic anime military characters for 3/4 of them in the LN visuals, so we can't blame them here.

>>13509681
Only means that they weren't anything special or good to begin with.

>>13509684
Yeah, by " good " I was thinking " good for an adaptation ", not really " good as a design ".

>>13509611

It'll be Pham, Walter, and Sylwia next week and Beatrix, Axmann, and Kirke the week after that.

So is Hitler a thing in Alternative?

>>13510158
Just a part of History. As far as we know, the Alternative universe differ from ours at the end of WWII with Japan capitulation without bombing, so Hitler was more than probably the same there.

>>13510158

Hitler exist. I think he got hit by the nuke instead of Japan in Alt's world.

>>13510158
of course, but i'm more concerned if holocaust is a thing

>>13510164
There are Israeli TSFs, so there had to be an holocaust, else Israel wouldn't exist.

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>Still no survey

>>13510186
>The Muv-Luv Team
>The next update is coming soon!
>7 hours ago ·

>>13510163
>nuking Berlin
>nuking everyone who actually has the authority to surrender to the Allies
>twice
Morons.

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>>13510233

>>13510233

That was the RL plan before Germany capitulated.

It also explains all the Germans revulsion to nukes. They threw an absolute fit (even Beatrix was protesting on moral grounds) when the nuke the DDR plan was revealed.

>>13510233

Unconditional surrender bitches.

>>13510245
how many people died for that bullshit?

>>13510267

Too many. Take it from an American, unconditional surrender is really stupid, but it makes for nice political speeches and anagrams nicely to US.

>>13510240

Beatrix is so difficult to read. Was she more angry in Volume VII because Schmidt was going to kill and martyr her, or because he was going to nuke the rebels/BETA. It seemed like she was keeping it together until he said he was going to take out half the country.

>>13510312
She's as stable as a girl with daddy issues, broken heart, and betrayed by her BFF can be.

>>13508918
... now, we need Kouki's face shoop into happy merchant. or maybe draws of Kouki in happy merchant's pose.

>>13510164
what would it be when we putting holocaust into holocaust?


& guess everything about WWII can be related into SM, in any ways possible.

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/narcissu-10th-anniversary-anthology-project

>non even the main goal
>people unpledge muv luv for this shit

>>13510606
People just saw Muv-Luv success and thought it was easy to fund a VN of KS.

We should have send them a protip : It's not.

>>13509656
The more massive, the better.

>>13510164
It's probably a non-issue in Altverse, since the BETA probably did an even bigger number on them than two Holocausts put together.

>>13510606
What do you mean unpledge Muv Luv, it's already funded?

What's not the main goal?

>>13510651
multiple people dropped their muv luv pledges to pledge for narcissu when the kickstarter came out during the lead up to the final stretch goal, and now Narcissu isn't even making its main goal
I pledged for both

Have the ML localization team managed to sort out the early problems they were having with banks declining pledge payments yet?

>>13510709
They should have, because KS automatically canceled the pledges by the end of the extra week if no solution was found.

I saw on the forum that the team accepted Paypal pledges last week. Don't know if they are always into it though, but I don't think so as they began to refund people having paid two times between KS and Paypal so I guess they have their final amount now.

>>13510709
No, i'm out several K and I was dropped as a backer. I'm trying to figure out where my money is right now

>>13510606
anything else than flopped that hard?

>>13510725
>They should have, because KS automatically canceled the pledges by the end of the extra week if no solution was found.
How much was lost thanks to that?

>>13510815
who know, we just have to wait for the upcoming update

>>13510606
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/narcissu-10th-anniversary-anthology-project

Eh, 8 days to go with little less than 20k left, they could do it.

>>13510823

From Muv-Luv Team, November 11 :
>We've lost some pledges in KS and gained some in Paypal. After computing, the total amount isn't that huge of a difference.

That's all we know for now.

>>13510855
>>13510823

Sorry, wanted to respond to >>13510815

>>13510732
Sorry to hear that anon. Was that through PayPal or card pledge?

>>13510392

About as stable as the average woman then.

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Why does he look like a younger, kid form of the Master? Same clothes and everything.

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>>13511009

>>13511022
What do you think Anon?

>>13511022
They also have the same VA.

>>13511022
its the same faggot

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>>13511022

>>13511230
do we learn more of him in the last TE VN?

>>13511233

Leads a bunch of Christian wingnuts working to bring about the end of the world through proxy terrorist, uses German as his primary language when handing out orders, is planning on targeting Yokohama, and has a knife obsession. That's about it.

You really screwed up that Iris route, didn't you Theo

>>13511247
>bring about the end of the world through proxy terrorist
but fucking why