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Say what you will about the game...but they did power armor right.

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Say what you will about the game...but they did power armor right.
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>>13488376
>they did power armor right

What makes you say that?
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>>13488376
by making it unfun?
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>>13488376
meh, could have used some integrated dakka
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>>13488429
It's big, slow, takes a lot to maintain, and gets owned by anything strong enough to remove a piece. The Deathclaw fight in Concord was both a power trip and a humbling experience.
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So since the T-60 is so common, does that mean that the T-51b is still one of the better armors out there?
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I like the idea of it being more powerful than past Power Armor, but I question it's use since it runs off of a limited resource.
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>>13489791
>this deluded

incredible

incredible!
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The only way the improved power armor was adding jetpacks unless that's also not in the final product
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>>13489948
>a suit of heavy metal armor that requires at least basic mechanical skill to maintain as its not simply a suit of armor but has machinery within to support its weight which allows you to wear it and move in it
>small arms and normal guns does almost no damage because you are literally wearing the armor of a light tank
>you still get ripped apart when you are facing monsters and supermutants using oversized weapons

all this information was available in the first game.
kill yourself
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>>13489784
Probably, lore wise while the T-60 has better protection its also fuckhuge and probably more lumbering as well odds are has a bit more of a basis on the T-45 and was decloped concurrently with the T-51 since the T-51 came out about the same time after a longer development cycle.

So yeah probably aside from bullet spounge T-51 would be better, aside from Advanced Power armor and shit from the enclave.

>>13489787
This, especially T-51 and Enclave armor which was supposed to have actual nuclear reacros in them wonder if they explain this in game don't have it my self yet so idk. I mean I guess it was done form balance which makes some sense but a still annoying.
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I made a Fallout 4 thread when the game first came out and a mod moved it to /v/ and gave me a warning. Apparently power armor, robots and cyborgs are no longer /m/. People in spandex suits are still okay though.
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>>13490110
Yeah I was baffled by that when it went missing as well there's been plenty of Fallout threads from what I've seen here before anyways that were fine.
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>>13488376
That's not a bad implementation of APA's aesthetic. Better than the mods I tried for F3 and NV at least.
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>>13489791
>power armor was done right in fallout 1 & 2
>Nothing more than ultra overpowered endgame armor with a strength boost and resistances that allowed you to casually steamroll any enemy that isnt endgame even if youre a fesh character with almost no skills

Yeah. Power armor implementation in thr early fallouts was sublime.

Please fuck off back to no mutants allowed
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>>13490004
>a suit of heavy metal armor that requires at least basic mechanical skill to maintain as its not simply a suit of armor but has machinery within to support its weight which allows you to wear it and move in it

You say that, but in 2 all you had to do was grab the set of Advanced in that locker at Navarro and you wore it just fine
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>>13489784
what the fuck is T-60 armour?
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>>13490360
The oversized T-45d thing. I'll be honest, it had to grow on me.
>inb4 Anchorage REEEEing
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>>13490360

T-60 was supposed to be the most powerful type of power armor ever built, but unlike the T-51, the bombs fell before it could ever be field-tested.
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>>13490100

Well since it all mostly seems like they implemented the Powered Power Armor mod, maybe there'll be a reactor upgrade?
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>>13490370
It's grown on me as well but I must say I still prefer the T-45d and T-51b over it.
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>>13490374

You can double the length a power cell powers it if you max out the Nuclear Engineer perk from 20 min to 40, and the 10% increase from the Repair bobblehead stacks with it.

42 (44?) minutes for a single power cell is pretty good.
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>>13490377
Hmmm...
>>13490376
I agree. It looks nice, but the new T-51b looks even better.
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>>13490377
How common are the cells I don't have the game yet like I said (and provided I keep getting screwed in the job hunt I won't for awhile) and been kind of wondering how common they'll be as I'm wanting to use the shit out of it.
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>>13490377
Fusion Cores basically become trivialized after you follow a certain quest chain that you can basically start about an hour into the game BoS.
After the second main quest you get about 12 or so of them and then you can go about traipsing through boston in your shitty rusty power armor.
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>>13490380

No idea. All i did was get the armor back to Sanctuary and then I went back to playing Legacy of the Void.
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>>13490380
I've stockpiled about a half dozen just exploring in 10 hours. You can also buy them there's 4 in stock in the main city but they're expensive, so presumably you have to wait until the late game when you have lots of money. My PA is currently in storage until I resume the main quest.
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>>13490381

Is it true the BoS is the Midwest chapter?

Because if so, those guys are dicks. They basically ran a facist dictatorship.
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>>13490381
>>13490390

Between finding them and the questline (the one I was gonna do anyways after seeing the leaks for it) Thank god the fucking bleeding heart Lyons and his daughter fucking died, Based Maxson living upto the family name and fixing shit. so that's good. Gonna max nuclear physicist and just go full PA most of the time and heavy weapons. Jet packing like a total loon.
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>>13490398
>spoiler
Holy fuck are you serious?
Good God, yes please
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>>13490411
Anon I'm serious as can be.

Pic related is spoiler guy I mentioned. Little Arthur got hit for Max Gains. And the BoS is doing much better under his control, got ahold of the west, as well as reunited the outcasts, and allot closer to the old doctrines.
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>>13489791

Wow...so /v/ has sleepers in /m/, who'd of thought? No seriously anon, I have played all of them since a good friend introduced me to the series back in '02. I must admit, 1 and 2 were, frankly, the best RPG's I have ever played...even more so than Xenogears, which up to that time I thought was the best game ever.
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>>13490427
>That Shark nose style T-51.

I have an erection and I know exactly why.
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So, only four sets of power armor in the game?
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>>13490373

Save next to this, but then again, this was built AFTER the bombs fell.
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>>13490377

One of the mods being kicked around is a Fusion Core Re-breeder.
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>>13490427
How far are you into the game?
I saw the Advanced PA helmet on the Prydwen but I don't know if the rest is acquired through the main quest or just lying around in some abandoned shed.
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>>13490392

No, it's Maxon, the kid from 3 grown up from The Citadel. They got an airship built and...an old friend.
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>T-51

Is there any better design in Fallout?
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>>13490427
What's that enclave looking suit?
Did they redesign the APA?

Also, did they explain the fucking logic and continuity breaking nonsensical Enclave armor in FE3?
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>>13490444
Can't wait to go around calling people Morons.
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>>13490456

Helping a friend play it and waiting to get mine on PC around the time the GECK will come out in January. Here...this might help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycyL4eOWw28
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>>13490441

5 technically with the Raider kitbash. DLC will introduce maybe 2 more. Mods...who knows how many.

>>13490460

X-01. Best armor in the game current, bar none...however, VERY hard to find all parts...so to speak. See video in >>13490473 after you hit maybe higher than 30 with luck around 6-7.
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>>13490458

Yes
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>>13490392
As >>13490457 said, it's the Eastern Brotherhood.
Sadly, they're also back to being dicks like the Western Brotherhood.
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>>13490567
>Sadly, they're also back to being dicks like the Western Brotherhood.

Rather have that than "literally perfect boyscouts" from F3
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>>13490567

In fairness the Brotherhood as a whole are shitheads. Only the Midwest are an outright facist nation that rules the tribes through power.

They sent you to die in FO1 because they thought it would be hilarious

"Yeah...*snicker* you can totally join us if you go get that holodisc from The Glow. Good luck, pfffffffffffffffffft."

>2 hours later

"Well shit, I guess we gotta let him in then. We did say he could."
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>>13490567

The Eastern Brotherhood was never that nice. Remember even Sarah talked down to Wanderer at first, and they protect the DC area yeah, but they also let nobody into their super fortress who wasn't Brotherhood even when people were dying outside (They only relented because Dr Li was Lyon's friend.)

They were better than the West because they actively tried to help people but they still had an elitist "We know better than everyone else" attitude. Wanderer was a rare exception that they respected only because he'd shown he was above and beyond the other "locals" And even then it was mostly Lyons that kept them like that. He's probably dead now.
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>>13490576
I liked the boyscouts of F3. It was nice having a Brotherhood that you could root for for a change. If you want the asshole Brotherhood, the Western branch still exists. Hell, even in F3 you had the Outcasts being true the Brotherhood's asshole nature, still calling me a filthy wastelander after I'd handed over half a dozen pieces of Enclave Power armor to them. Fucking ingrates.
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[X]-HATE POWER ARMOR
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>>13490683
>I HATE FUN
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>>13490706
[X]-HATE FUN
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>>13490683
[X]-HATE PLEBS
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>>13490392
>those guys are dicks

They always were Fallout 3 was just the exception. In the first game they straight up tried to kill you by sending you on a "quest" to a highly irradiated area and only accepted you in because you somehow came back alive.
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Are they still using the same engine from like 10 years ago?
Because my toaster would be grateful.
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>>13490735
Same one as Skyrim but the performance seems to be all over the place. I've seen people with 980s claim getting constant framerate drops and others with 750s getting a stable 60FPS.
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>>13489780
>humbling experience
Walk into any building and the deathclaw can no longer touch you. Then you can just shoot at it until it dies.

How is this humbling?
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>>13490750
>and others with 750s getting a stable 60FPS.
That's all I wanted to hear.
Thank you.
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>>13490792
Please don't get your hopes up. I really don't wanna accidentally pull a Todd on you.
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>>13490800
Eh, I'm not really jumping in right away anyway.
I know better than doing that with a Bethesda game.
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>>13490457
Does...does the Old Friend hate Communism?
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You also can't swim in power armor anymore. Though you can walk along the bottom to get to the other side. The armor lets you breathe underwater, but I'm not sure how long.
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>>13490491
Yeah, but that X-01, is it the APA? Where did it come from? Who made it? It's obv. Enclave, I want to know how it fits in.
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>>13490877
>Though you can walk along the bottom to get to the other side.
That's kind of cooler, actually.
Like, this walking tank will keep on walking, fuck water.
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>>13490877
>The armor lets you breathe underwater, but I'm not sure how long.

Irrelevant, you can breathe underwater with a perk maxed
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>>13490882
Its just the APA from FO2/NV given a slight make over like the other armors I beleive as well as given a model number like the others. I guess we could assume the APA mk ii is X-02 maybe and hellifre could be X-03 but doesn't matter much since they don't appear...yet.
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>>13490750
I run a 650m. It was good enough to make Skyrim run. Any reports on how it'd work for FO4?

>>13490811
Yeah, waiting for bugfixes and mods before buying.
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>>13490985
Is there anything cool to discover with that perk? I don't wanna get it and just end up fighting crabpeople for hours finding out it was all for fucking nothing.

Mirelurks scare me for some reason
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So, I heard that there were faction endings in the game.

I joined the BoS. Did I lock myself into one path or is it like "joining" them in past Fallout games?

I am also disappointed in how much time I am spending on building up my settlements
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>>13491032
Speaking of which, are the east coast regular Mirelurks back? Because I love their designs.
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>>13491063
>I am also disappointed in how much time I am spending on building up my settlements

Why, they clearly put more time into it than the rest of the game.
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>>13490815

In ways you never thought possible anon...in ways you never thought possible!
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>>13491032

Yes! A Chinese sub still armed with mini nukes that allows you to call down a strike anywhere with a targeting marker
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>>13491063

Two so far. BoS, or Institute
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Anyone else notice the wear's hands aren't actually in the armor's hands? Presumably they operate remotely.
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>>13490627
>but they also let nobody into their super fortress who wasn't Brotherhood even when people were dying outside
As opposed to letting in walking corpses inside so everyone could die?
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>>13491393
That's not particularly uncommon in power armor designs.
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>>13489780
>It's big, slow, takes a lot to maintain,
you got something against light, fast and easily maintained stuff?
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>>13489791
I played the first two and honestly they aren't the greatest thing nowadays to play, they suffer from some old school rpg gameplay issues, not that 3 or NV are perfect, but DESU they improved a lot. Bethesda hasn't really let me down since Howard came in.
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>>13490427
>even more so than Xenogears, which up to that time I thought was the best game ever.
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>>13488376
>there will never be a fallout game where you can wear enclave armor that actually looks like how it does in FO2's CG cinematics.

feels bad man.
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>>13490427
Does Fallout 4 have any Chinese Stealth Armor
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>>13491393

I don't think powered armor would work if it wasn't considerably larger than your own body.
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>>13488376
The only thing that makes me want to get this game is the robot detective.
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>>13490360
Their shitty new doughnut steel armor, basically a copy of their previous doughnut steel T-45d.
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日本ではダーナオーシ、オーラバトラー、一種のモンハンアーマー、カッコイイヒーローを考える試作機
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>>13488376
Really? Because I think even for its setting, Fallout still has some of the shittiest art direction ever.
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>>13492710
FUCK OFF 2CH
WE SHITPOST IN ENGLISH HERE
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>>13490457
I just had a thought. Just how fucked would the NCR be if the Eastern Brotherhood hooked back up with the West Coast Branch? I mean, they've got an airship and Good Ol' Liberty Prime, as well as any tech and weapons they've recovered from the Capital Wasteland and Commonwealth. Not to mention that the Eastern Brotherhood has less qualms about recruiting outsiders (one of the few Lyons reforms that seems to have stuck) which means that the major advantage the NCR had that allowed them to beat the Western Brotherhood; superior numbers, no longer applies.
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>>13494999
Well, now I know what 5's gonna be.

NCR vs Brotherhood WAR.
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>>13488376
Turtle power!
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>>13495058
I don't think so. I think the Courier is based enough, that by this point the Mojave Brotherhood has brokered an uneasy ceasefire with the NCR.

I do think it's obvious that the Eastern brotherhood is going to spread back west now that Maxson has gotten in contact with the west, and with the Maxson brotherhood being basically an idealized, revitalized version of the western brotherhood, they'll go back to bring new life to the west. The only question is, whether they will come back to reinforce a brotherhood at war with the NCR or to an uneasy alliance.

The latter is obviously preferable. And shit, if all three factions can ally together, may Jove save Caesar's Legion, because they're sandwiched between death itself.
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>>13494332
>WE SHITPOST IN ENGLISH HERE
Day has been made.
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>>13495206
Plus Maxson has the whole legacy thing.
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>>13494332
>2CH
>WE SHITPOST IN ENGLISH
Hy хyй знaeт.
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>>13494332
>not knowing about the random jap anon
Is this /v/ or are you new?
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Hey, is the brotherhood gonna aggro me if I do the minutemen endgame quests?
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>tfw jumping from a tall height in PA
So fucking satisfying. My poor leg parts though ;_;
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>>13495564
you're better off asking in /vg/ fallout general, even tho the board itself is horrible.
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So, did they ditch the karma meter this time?
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>>13495907
Pretty much. You now just have meters with your followers which make them like you or hate you depending on what you do and in some cases, you can bang them.

Mrs Handy a best
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>>13495918
You can bang Mrs Handy?
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>>13495922
She's able to romanced, so yep.
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I dunno, it's a little light on the hard wiring for my taste.

>large and bulky
>can still be used with finesse by a skilled wearer
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>>13496043
daggit
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> 19 Fusion Cores stockpiled
> Maxed out Nuclear Physicist perk
> Power armor has been repaired and upgraded
> Finally have a steady supply of energy ammo going

It's go time motherfuckers.
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>>13492394

Compared to?
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>>13496365
Having bad taste.
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>>13496377

Not too many JRPGs that do sci-fi
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>>13494332
Lål är du årg, brör?
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I can't be the only one thinking of Tony Stark when they repair their power armor with tin cans right?

> I was able to rebuild this armor with a box of scraps!
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I have a shitty headcannon.

What if the Japs made Gigantor when the rest of the world was at war?
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>>13495554
He must have gotten bored with the battletech thread and wandered over here.
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Glory best girl. PAM second best. honorable mention to the couple in diamond city.
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>>13500189
部品をよく見ると良い、イギリス的ジョークな部品が映画に隠されている、だから落ちたのかもしれないが良い
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>>13495922

Sort of. There's a side quest that you can take which causes her to transfer out of her Mrs Handy body into a humanoid synthetic one. Then you can bang her. You can't if you keep her as a Handy.
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>>13501155
>You can't if you keep her as a Handy.
Not *yet*. Just wait for the mods.
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>>13501162
Insert handjob joke here
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>decide to put it on again after getting a few Fusion Cores and upgrading it to Model B parts
>save a settler from a building filled with bandits
>feel like a giant walking death machine and they can't do anything to stop me

Power Armor feels powerful again.
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>>13500876

That was Tetsujin's purpose, to be the IJA's secret weapon.

The reality is Japan would've lost anyway.
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>>13503163

If you build for it, you can live all of your Jin-Roh fantasies.

Actually, if you build for it, you can live most of your BattleTech Elemental fantasies as well.

I'll put money on modders adding "Mounted" weapons to power armor by spring.
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>>13490427

you're missing the best one
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>>13503674
Dougram?
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>>13490376
how in the name of god
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Honestly /m/ should i ger this game

I started with 2 and played them 1 through nv

I like them all for different reasons

Or should i hold out for more mods
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>>13503699
why wouldn't you? You played all the other ones, and this one is pretty much the best so far, so
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>>13503699
It's actually one of the lesser buggy Bethesda games on release.
You can actually play the game, you don't need Mods to keep it from crashing/freezing
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>>13488376

>>did it right

is the pilot's head in the neck or something?
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>>13503699
Hold out for more mods and bug fixes/workarounds.
That's the usual advice when dealing with Bethesda.
If I don't give in to temptation, my personal plan is to wait until the DLCs start coming.
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>>13503705
>>13503703
Yea i like the sounds of the way power armor is

Also robot waifu might be fun
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>>13489780
>It's big, slow, takes a lot to maintain, and gets owned by anything strong enough to remove a piece.

That sounds awful and no fun
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>>13503712
>robot waifu
The what now?
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>>13503706
The shoulders are clearly in the torso section of the suit, Sherlock. Like the Varia suit back when its design made sense.
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But can you quick travel with the power armor on?
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>>13503716
I heard from a thread in /v/ somethinf to do with a robo who gets a sort of cyborgishribot body

But ofcourse i havent played it yet
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>>13503716
One of the permanent, romancable companions in FO4 is a French-accented Mrs. Handy robot who you can later put into the body of a person
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>>13503719
yep. Otherwise i doubt i would have gotten this far in pic related
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>>13490110
Fuck the mods for real for real
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>>13503691
seriously, the T-60 is the sexiest power armor in the series

I cannot fathom the brain damage/nostalgia chains that could make someone think otherwise
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>>13503738
Some of us just aren't that into armoured sports bras.
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>implying the best Power Armor won't be in a DLC
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>>13492469
aside from the officer's sword. fallout 4 doesn't have anything chinese.
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>>13503748
enjoy your:
T-51 fairy wings + bucket head
Enclave X-01 jester helmet
T-45d Chest Handle From a Literal Fuckin Oven and shoulder wings as wide as a fuckin albatross

now if you'll excuse me, peasants, I have technology to horde
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>>13503725
Synth's aren't people! They're abominations!
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>>13503803
can you persuade the Brotherhood to limit their shit to taking out the Institute instead of synths in general? I dont see why you need to genocide these folks once their means of production are kaput
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>>13503849
>needing a reason for genocide
Kill yourself, commie.
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>>13503779
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>13503788
You seem a bit touchy, friend. Are you not getting the support you need?

They gave the T-51b fairy wings? I don't actually have F4.
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Nice thread you guys got here
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>>13503976
He means the jetpack
>>13503890
There's also a Chinese Submariner coat.
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>>13503849

Nope. The best you can do is get them not to kill your synthetic friends as a favor to you. They don't like or trust synths. Period.
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So, what's the alt-tab glitch this time?
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speaking of F4 and Power Armor.

Are fusion cores limited in game? So eventually I'll use them all up and can't use the Armor ever again? Or do they always spawn somewhere?
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>>13504084

They drop from high level robotic enemies and appear in caravan/shop inventories.

It gets expensive, but not impossible. Not that it matters since I'm 20 hours in with 16 cores and I haven't bought a one.
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Beakies are superior
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>>13504150
Agreed, Beaks of all varieties are god tier.
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>>13504159
Enclave suits' helmet designs bug me, it's like there's a big chunk of their heads missing.
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>>13504180


Its meant to be a Bald Eagle
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>>13504071
>They don't like or trust synths. Period.

I love the "new" Brotherhood.
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>>13503779
Technically FO3 didn't have it either, it was added in DLC.
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>>13490427
I love mixing and matching the power armors. I've spent most of my game time collecting the materials needed to paint them and looking for the pieces.
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>>13504219
Yeah Bethesda actually listened to the to fanbase on how much they hated Lyons. I'm genuinely fucking suprised, I figured they'd listen to all the FO3 shits and keep the white knights.
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>>13503738
I think all the fallout armor looks like shit except for the enclave armor in FO2. The designs in the Fallout franchise in general are just overall mediocre. I can't believe there are so many inbred peasants with such shit taste posting on /m/ now.
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>>13503703
>and this one is pretty much the best so far

You are joking, right?
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>>13489780
Can you still take one out with dinky pistols like in FO 3?
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So level with me /m/ how useful are jetpacks?
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>>13503991
Patiently waiting for all the 40k power armor mods.
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>>13504288
Patiently waiting for the G3-x Mods. Fallout 4's system was made for this.
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>>13504228
I like how stompy the far right's boots are.
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>>13504265
You have to be very, very far in to get access to them. You need maxed out armorer and scientist perk to build them. I haven't gotten one yet and I don't know anyone else has.

>>13504084
You can buy them. The main city has like a half dozen between merchants each restock. With perks and mentats I can get a core for like 300 caps each.
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> Find a T-51 in a crate while wandering
> Upgrade from my trusty T-45 and spend some time and resources upgrading and customizing it to my liking
> Find the atomic cats selling the T-60
> Fuck!
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>tfw I'm the kind of player who finishes final fantasy games with dozens of elixers in my inventory
>power armor has been parked in sanctuary since I got it even though I have several fusion cores
fugg
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>>13501135
FUCK OFF 2CH WE POST IN ENGISH OUT HERE.
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>>13503728
Where did you find them all? So far I've only been able to find three suits and I just got to the Prydwen.

I have a suit stationed at Red Rocket, which I've made into my home complete with defense perimeter, booby traps, one at Sanctuary in Minutemen colours, and the final suit at Cambridge Police Department.

>>13490539
Please tell me this style is in the game somewhere?

>>13503674
I have yet to get a full set of Raider PA. Just have the torso and the head right now.
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Look out /m/! It's the Silver Shroud!
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>>13503738
>seriously, the T-60 is the sexiest power armor in the series
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>>13504675
>Silver Shroud
>Missile Launcher
You dun goofed.
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Been trying to replay all of new vegas so that I can beat the last dlc which I never got around to before playing this. Yet Two things bother me, in fall out 3 the common wealth are played up as a mythical thing that no one in DC knew for sure existed. Excluding those who helped the android of course and the people hunting it. Old world blues even plays up that even waaaay after the war and other fallout based events extremely scientific minds still exist even if some are going a bit nuts.

In Fallout 4 we supposedly (only seen trailers so far even with mine downloaded already) run into the common wealth and finally see all they have that makes them something to fear or revere. Yet in none of these we dont see truely new power armors, its like the Enclave zakus vs the great war gms and their many variants. Youd think at least the common wealth with their advanced technological advances would have created newer armor. Not a variant, makeshift or new model of existing one but something like in gundam terms a dom, gouf, etc basically their own take on it built with only the core concept.

Also e3 made me think of the prototype power armor from Halo legends prototype. Well minus most the built in weapons. Something I hope they have, or will add in a update or dlc. Imagine using a arm and a laser gatling gun, automatic grenade launcher. Scrap metal and missile launcher for shoulder fired rockets. A tesla cannon or howitzer for shoulder armed cannon. And so on.
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日本のヘイローは食い逃げのカス酷い内容にもほどがある返品された在庫で暴れて壊すだけ、初めから真面目に作れ
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>>13503647

OP here. Among other things. Friends and I have a concept weapon we are working on. Cerberus...the tri-barreled 30mm mounted flak cannon. We were disappointed by the fact there are no real power armor sized guns in this game.
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>>13503706

Remember the Enclave armor has a false mantle.
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>>13503751

This
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>>13504288
I'm waiting for the iron man armor mod personally.
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>>13504781
HEIROO
AMURO
HEIROO
AMURO
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For some reason the fact the head lamp is finally functional delights me to no end.
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>>13504262
Idk. I took out a raider power armor with a rifle and shotgun.
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>>13504192
that changes everything.
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>>13503803
Can you really say that about Valentine?
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>>13505015
>can you really call an abomination an abomination
I can, I will and I have.
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>Assaultron
moar like, ASSaultron amirite guys?

No, butt seriously, dat ass.
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>>13505028
>disliking the robot detective
You should be banned for this
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>>13490427
I'm hoping one of the expansions will bring back more of the Enclave Powered Armor.

I loved the Adv Mk II, Mk II Tesla, and Hellfire suits.
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>>13491032
There's a free and abandoned T-51 (missing some parts) in the water north of Covenant next to a sunken Vertibird.

You can basically have up to around 9 free Power Armor frames, going by the current list on the Fallout wiki.

More if you're somehow able to quickly pickpocket a Raider in powered armor and take their Fusion Core. This causes their armor to power down, and they get out of the armor to try and kill you in whatever crappy leathers they're wearing. Easier than trying to pickpocket the BoS PAs.

You can also let companions aside from Dog wear the Power Armor you collected and customized; provided you keep a Fusion Core in their armor and occasionally order them out of them to repair them after some extended action.

And I also tested and can confirm that some settlers may take your power armor if you leave it lying around with a Fusion Core still in it, and you'll have a time trying to get them out of it. It's even worse if unfriendly NPCs get into any PA you left powered; if you kill them while they're in the PA, you won't be able to reclaim the frame. You have to pickpocket the Fusion Core off the armor and force them to get out.
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>>13506755
I assume leaving it in the station must be safe then. Because I've left suits there for a long time with no one taking it.
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>>13504762
>Yet in none of these we dont see truely new power armors, its like the Enclave zakus vs the great war gms and their many variants. Youd think at least the common wealth with their advanced technological advances would have created newer armor. Not a variant, makeshift or new model of existing one but something like in gundam terms a dom, gouf, etc basically their own take on it built with only the core concept.
I think Bethesda doesn't want to have too much powercreep. Basically they want the RX-78 to stay relevant.
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>>13504762
I thought the T-60 would be an Institute modified T-45, instead they inserted it as a pre-war PA used by the U.S.
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>>13506806
Leaving them at the PA station while charged is likely safe; at least, from my testing thus far.

I just tested leaving a PA in a friendly settlement (random area just far enough from the PA maintenance shop), neutral zones (town/city), and enemy zones. They all eventually got stolen if there was a Fusion Core in them.

I haven't yet tested as to whether or not building a secure box (4 metal walls and a roof around your entire collection in a settlement would still have NPCs somehow glitching and taking them out.

On the subject of settlements, am I the only one who's turned a random plot of land or a mostly complete building into a fortress? I ended up building a 3-story tower at the Red Rocket and have 3 large generators powering 8 rocket launcher turrets and 7 heavy laser turrets.

Sanctuary has multiple generators powering missile and heavy laser turrets in addition to the warning siren, recruiting tower, water purifier, and further augmented by self-powered heavy chaingun turrets.

Yes, I used console commands in one save to give me the resources to test how how far I can go before I hit the cap. I'm pretty sure I could make a 4-5 story tower fort in one of the settlements if I wanted. Somewhat pissed at the lack of a grid system or a better snap-link system; building on top of a roof should still allow snapping of a wall to the roof corners (referring to the metal squares used as walls and roofs).
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>>13491063
nah
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Would you risk you life for your fellow man? Even if that man is a synth?
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>>13505205
>moar like, ASSaultron amirite guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpwte6Axy9Q
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>>13507046
Only if it gets me extra perks.
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He waited for you /m/. For 200 years he waited for you to come home.
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>>13506755
>pickpocket a Raider in powered armor and take their Fusion Core.
>tfw low agility and no sneaking perks
I guess it's the old fashioned way for me.
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>>13489780
I didn't realize the power armor was on the roof.
My subtitles bugged out and I missed that bit, so I went out the front door thinking I could quicktravel back to sanctuary to dump my scrap.
I panicked and wound up shooting at the deathclaw from the inside of the church with my 10mm for 15 minutes.
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>>13488376
So a less colorful and emblematic version of the Adeptus Astartes is doing power armor right? You okay?
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So jetpacks are actually fairly disappointing. This is about the height you can reach with one and it drains your AP and Fusion core in the process. I guess is you played melee it would be useful for flying up and slamming down on people but I think I'll keep my core assembly.
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>>13507341
You use any mods for the hands? I was looking through them and it seems like none of them are useful since the only melee I do is butt smash and bayonetta.
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>>13507352
No, I use energy weapons. I don't even have the blacksmith perk.
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>there are people who don't still live in their home after unfreezing.

Sure it's a fixer-upper, but it's worth it.
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So have there been any FO3 references in the game? Anything about the Lone Wanderer?
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>>13507413

Lyons unit is back, led by the kid from the Citadel grown up.

Lyons and his daughter are dead, and I think the Wanderer is too.
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Are Tesla and Hellfire armor even in FO4?
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>>13507482
>If Fallout were an anime about the BoS VS the Enclave, Tesla Armor would be the thing that rolls out after the BoS manages to get gauss weapons deployed and creates an energy field that deflects projectiles and nullifies laser fire
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>>13507482
You can stick Tesla coils to your PA and shock enemies.
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>>13504003
>>13503976

No, I meant the shoulders, friendo. Look at this ridiculous shit.
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>>13504682
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>>13507615
>Insulting America
When the successful branch of the Enclave comes back from deep space, they're going to kick your ass.
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>>13507615
this is literally all I see
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>>13504240
see
>>13507615
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>>13507425
I can understand Elder Lyons dying but did it say anything about how Sarah died?
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>>13507600
Not in 4 so who cares. See
>>13489784
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>>13507680
>about how Sarah died?
Captured by Super Mutants. Most likely a lot of pic related happened.
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>>13507758
But FO3 super mutants don't have dicks
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>>13507758
I didn't know super mutants could still get it up.
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Is there any kind of lift or moving platform in the game? Bethesda was doing some tests after Skyrim so I'm curious to know they managed to get them to work.
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>>13507795
Yes. Most Gunner camps are on freeway overpasses and some of them the only way to get up is via a window washer's rig.
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>>13507795
Some of the building interiors also have working elevators. I'm not sure how exactly the mechanics work but at least some of them seem to actually go up and down while staying in the same map.
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It doesn't matter how good my gear is. I will never not "Oh shit" at the sight of a Deathclaw.
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dumping some webms.
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>>13507807
>>13507829
Really? Is it a cut-scene, or can you and your followers move freely?
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>>13507881
all the others have sound so ill have to convert them. not oc btw.
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>>13507837
>traveling north from Medical Research for some reason
>find Gullet Sink Hole, or something like that
>Looks neat! Let's go explore!
>mfw a Deathclaw climbs out and my power armour is over at Red Rocket
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>>13507890

It's not really a cut scene, and you can move around, but it's clear that they're using the elevators to load the area.

The most obvious one I've encountered was this building south of Goodneighbor, which took like two minutes to travel two floors up to the roof in the Overworld.
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Why is it so fucking ugly?
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>>13507600
How long until we get WZC and Strike Freedom mods (and only those two)?
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So Synths aren't just robots that look human, they're actually mostly organic it seems. They're basically Cylons I guess.
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>>13508289
So the Synth waifu you can build, is she a human looking model or one of the iRobot looking models?

Like, pic related. Does she look like left or right?

And where do I go to start the quest, I don't want to spoil myself too much by going to the wikia, see.
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too bad the game is mediocre and testing out their leveling system enemies past level 70 or so become bullet sponges where I had to plink away with rifles or waste 2 fatman mini nukes on a single SM warlord

The game is horrid as a fallout game, and OK as a generic shooter
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>>13508670
>a fallout game
It doesn't even have skills. It has no right to call itself Fallout.

So this is it. The Fallout franchise finally dies. I'm gonna replay 1 and 2 and remember when Fallout was actually good.
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>>13508670
>too bad the game is mediocre and testing out their leveling system enemies past level 70 or so become bullet sponges where I had to plink away with rifles or waste 2 fatman mini nukes on a single SM warlord
Did you have level 70 perks and equipment? Because if you haven't maxed out your skills and gun upgrades by then then of course you can't kill anything.
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>>13508177

My own question: why are the graphics for my power armor terrible even on ultra when I see that's not the case for other players?
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>>13508735
>My own question: why are the graphics for my power armor terrible even on ultra when I see that's not the case for other players?
Is there any manual slider adjustment you can make beyond just "ultra"?
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>>13508767
UUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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>>13490378
>T-51b

>Not upgrading it to T-51f

My T-60d is all shiney and shit. Really need to get that perk for the last upgrade.
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>>13490427

Where the fuck do I find X-01 armor?

I am swimming in so many suits I just stopped picking them up, but not a single peice of anything past T-51.
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>>13507063

>mfw he actually said the name I inputted

Blew my fucking mind.
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>>13508793
What level are you? Apparently armor drops are level-dependent.
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>>13508812

30.

I have got almost everything else.
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>>13508800

Same here, I thought i was hearing shit at first. Was a nice little touch but it would have been cool if other people said your name too
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>>13508844
Considering they have over 900 or so names programmed it's understandable that they didn't, but it would've been really neat, yeah.

>you will never play through an entire Fallout game with every single NPC casually referring to you as fuckface
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>>13508837

I think you need to be at least 40 for X-01

Or just go into "coc qasmoke" and grab it there. Use "coc RedRocketExt" to leave

>>13508864
>name is William
>not on list
>"fuck it, being called Sir Bill is good enough"
>he calls me Mister Bill

oh nooooooo
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>>13507193

I have no points in sneaking. I did found an easier way, though.

You can still pacify raiders in power armor if you're higher level than them. Then, it's just a matter of walking behind them, crouching, and then taking the core.

They don't even re-aggro once they get out of the suit if you pacified them earlier. They will attack you again if your pickpocketing fails, though.
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>>13508289
It seems like it would be way easier to just get a piece of someone's DNA and make a clone from that.
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>>13509490
>It seems like it would be way easier to just get a piece of someone's DNA and make a clone from that.
But isn't it better to get a body that is fully customisable? Sure it is HARDER to produce, but it is certainly better.
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loving fallout 4 so far
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>>13509512
I just had to check out every map marker in that place. By the time I left my armor was trashed and my plasma rifle was empty.
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>>13509522
same thing happened first time venturing there. most unique zone in long time in vidya games that place
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>>13509535

OK! Here is the PERFECT example of my big beef with the game. You are wearing a walking mini tank...where is the guns that should go with it? Something like 20mm rifles, Assault Cannons, etc.
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Before the war I wonder how many American soldiers standing around on guard duty were playing video games inside their armor.
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>>13509562
Dont you get a minigun at the very beginning of the game?
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>>13509562
I'm hoping someone is able to port over the AEVegas weapons from New Vegas at some point.

Dude did some great tank cannons that were just pure sex to lug around in power armor.

The mod link for anyone interested:
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38762/?
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>>13509593

Yea.

There is also a gattling laser.

The fat man is also pretty much perfectly designed for powered armor.
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>>13509593
Yeah with the first suit of PA.

There's also a literal old school naval cannon you can get saw it in a loading screen.
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>>13509612
Broadsider is a mission reward weapon related to the USS Constitution.
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>>13509612
>>13509619
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I figured out why my power armor looked like shit even on ultra.

It was the paintjob I chose. I put in a mod for the Enclave coloring for the X-01, it looks fine
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Why do fusion cores run out so fast?
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>>13509799
Because Todd doesn't care about the canon. Also, there's a perk you can get to make them last longer.

Also, sprinting drains them incredibly quickly, so don't sprint errywhere.
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>>13509799
Did you take Nuclear Physicist?
Are you using the jetpack?
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>>13488376
power armor /m/ods when?
I want to kill raiders in a mini Zaku II
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>>13509987

>inb4 power armor variants/paint job DLC

This is Bethesda we are talking about.
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>>13510004
>tfw we'll never get licensed PA DLC from different franchises.
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>>13509987
I have almost every suit ripped from UCGO, so porting them and animating (or not) some SM power armor is possible

>>13508722
that's another thing, shit like that is stupid and makes this less an RPG and more a generic shooter with a perks system

>>13508716
I agree it's not a fallout game, never will be a fallout game

>game started locking up trying to complete the story
>just said fuck it, slapped in some console commands and started 1 punching legendary deathclaws into gibs
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>>13509512
>>13509522
>>13509535
>Glowing Sea is where the nuke hits in the very beginning of the game
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>>13509609
Ahh yes, Gatling Alice. The gun so powerful it crashes your game. At least they made a fix for that.
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>>13508716
>dies

Bethesda already said that both they and Obsidian would like the latter to make another game, because Bethesda likes their handling of the West Coast. They just call dibs on the East Coast.

Avellone left Obsidian (thank god), but Sawyer is still around.
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>>13510842

>Avellone leaving is good, Sawyer staying is good

Anon, I suspect you live in opposite world.
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>>13511122
>>13510842
Not him but people (on /vg/ at least) don't seem to think to highly of Avellone. Why is that? When pressed, /vg/ didn't give a straight answer and said something about "cult of personality" or some such bull.
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>>13511122

I've always disliked Avellone's characterization.

Meanwhile Sawyer wrote my 2 favorite characters in New Vegas: Arcade abd Joshua Graham.

>>13511135

I don't go to /vg/. I don't like him because he has a tendency to shove mouthpieces into the world that exist to expouse his views on the setting and that no matter what you do, you can never do anything but prove them right. The biggest offenders being Kreia and Ulysses.
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>>13511144
Well, Ulysses failed for me because he's dry as shit. Who was the one that came up with the idea for Tunnelers fucking up the Mojave? I think they were mad that things were too developed and New Vegas was post-post-apocalyptic.
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>>13511156
>Who was the one that came up with the idea for Tunnelers fucking up the Mojave?

Avellone. He believes Fallout will lose its purpose or something if humanity completely recovers. That's why in FO2 the cities are basically normally towns but everything outside them is pure death and the cities can't really expand, that's his balance.

Personally I think Avellone's thing with the tunnelers was a response to Sawyer creating NV as safe outside of a few places

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFvvr8_CtaI
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>>13511178
>if you want to make the player go somewhere, the easiest way is to make a big landmark they can see from far away, because interesting landmarks make people want to explore them
Huh, that's neat.
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>>13507795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9su-AptXSk
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>>13504781
Google translate doesnt do your language very well, are you saying that recent Halos are shit and arent selling in Nippon?
Because I agree, Boring generic designs galore and gameplay that never struck me as cool or revolutionary like it was praised to be. Only ever enjoyed Halo 1
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>>13509577
in Fallout 1 its mentioned that the power armor legs lock in place so BoS guards try to sneak a nap while on duty
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>>13511144
Arcade was actually Sawyers character when they ran a PnP fallout game, so all the bad ends for him are sort of an in-joke. Thats the difference between, Bethesda & Obsidian, Obsidian still plays D&D, so they know how to make quests & choices & factions engaging for a player because they actually playtest it sitting across the table from the players, seeing it first hand without a video game getting in the way.

Also If youve read the Fallout Bible (some great lore tidbits) & read his game design blog I have no idea how someone could think Avellone isnt a cool dude.
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>>13512668
>I have no idea how someone could think Avellone isnt a cool dude.

Because I disagree with his views.
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>>13512668
oh, and I forgot to mention the most ironic part, Tamriel & the Elder Scrolls universe comes from the original Beth teams D&D sessions. No idea if any of them are left though, Todd didnt join til Morrowind after all.
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>>13512670
why? He seems pretty normal to me
I dont like Sawyers views which is NERF EVERYTHING, but I still respect him as a game designer and a person. All the Fallout guys know how to make a damn good RPG, NV & 2 are so close to an actual PnP game its uncanny.
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>>13512679
>why? He seems pretty normal to me

Kreia still makes me mad.
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>>13512685
I dont know who that is, Baldurs Gate character I presume? Never got into those games because I dunno if 1 is worth it or if I should just skip to 2
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>>13512704

KotoR 2. Her whole purpose is to shit on the Force as a concept and she wants to destroy it. She's infamous as being Avellone's mouthpiece on the SW universe.

She is your main questgiver of sorts, and no matter what you do, no matter how you resolve the quests, she shittalks you afterwards and points out everything you fucked up again. Again, regardless of how you resolve it. She's unpleasable UNLESS you kiss her ass and agree with her every step of the way. If you disagree or tell her to fuck off, her response is basically "Psh, whatever"
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>>13512718
>Star Wars EU
Found yer problem. There is almost no one thats ever done it right. I wasted so many years on that crap. Its like no one has actually seen the stuff Lucas got his star wars ideas from
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>>13512718
>land on Nar Shadaa
>beggar asks you for money


>if you give him money, Kreia says that hope is like a beacon, and it can draw unwanted attention, and you're shown a cutscene of the beggar you gave credits to getting killed by another beggar, who then takes the money you gave him
>don't give him money, and Kreia says that a good man can only be pushed so far, and that your act of cruelty may have been what finally pushed him over the edge, and you're shown a cutscene of the beggar holding his head in grief, another beggar comes up behind him to see what's wrong, and the first beggar flips his shit and starts stabbing the other beggar.
Yeah, she did pretty much just shit on everything you did.
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>>13512777
Well thats real life son. Theres no White only Shades of Black & Grey
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>>13512795
To be honest family, she did have it right, Jango Fett did die too easily.
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>>13512777
>Yeah, she did pretty much just shit on everything you did.
Why is it the player's fault that the beggar was robbed and killed? Is it an argument to suggest that the beggar is better off poor and know his place? What kind of shitty moral argument is that? By the same argument I should just kill everyone in the world so they can all spared whatever suffering they would otherwise have to endure in their lives. I don't think it is the character's fault, I think it is the script writers being bad.
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>>13513041
>Why is it the player's fault that the beggar was robbed and killed?
Because you gave him money and it gave him hope and thus made him a target for others.
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>>13513041

She doesn't give a damn what happens to the beggar, she just wants you to think for one goddamn second about what you're doing.

She's a cunt, but throwing money at whoever has that sort of dialogue option because it's the "good thing to do" is not all that different in principle from murderhoboing.

But yeah, Avellone is too "high concept" and words words words for his own good a lot of the time, and Sawyer is too autistic. It's probably a case of dudes past their prime who did their best work when confined, and drift aimlessly when given free reign. Like George Lucas or Mr. Shitface. Old men, running the world. A new era.
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>>13513132
>She's a cunt, but throwing money at whoever has that sort of dialogue option because it's the "good thing to do" is not all that different in principle from murderhoboing.

But if you DON'T give him money, he kills someone else.
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>>13512718

Doesn't Kreia approve of you the most if you go full Light Side despite all of her efforts to convince you otherwise? It's been a while since I've played, but I recall her endgame dialogue before the final encounter saying something to that extent.
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>>13490110
eh

/m/ is an odd board. I personally think it should only be for giant robots - but then I remember Yamato and realize that /m/ is also the only place old shows like that get discussed.

Meanwhile Chogokin and mecha toys stay on /toy/.

I don't know what to say, except that the mods do have a hard job. Basically any decision they make will be under fire from either end of the polarized mecha community: people who think anything mechanical belongs (owing to the original japanese word), and people who only want robots and some spaceships (the modern genre definition).
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>>13513171

One of her most famous speeches is that always helping people makes them weak.
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>>13513132
>She doesn't give a damn what happens to the beggar, she just wants you to think for one goddamn second about what you're doing.
No, the story is trying to tell us that "everyone deserve what they are stuck as. If you are poor and destitute you deserve it, and those who are rich should stay away and let the poor suffer and die in peace"

By the same argument, I should steal money from all the rich people because they could get targeted for being wealthy. I am doing them a favour by taking their money away from them. It is SHITTY to say helping people is bad because they might be killed later. The entire argument is based on the idea that the poor deserved deserved to be poor because there must be something wrong with them.
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>>13513215
>One of her most famous speeches is that always helping people makes them weak.
My real life response would have been to cut off both her arms, so that she can become stronger by overcoming her disability. And she should thank me for it.

It is just excuses to not help people and pretend there is a moral angle to be an asshole.
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>>13513217
I don't think that was the point.
There were two main points:
1) Even a good deed can have unintended negative results
2) Jedi are faggots
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>>13513217
>No, the story is trying to tell us that "everyone deserve what they are stuck as. If you are poor and destitute you deserve it, and those who are rich should stay away and let the poor suffer and die in peace"

Sadly it's blander than that. Avellone has always been known as a libertarian, and basically Kreia's whole thing is "everyone has to be able to stand on their own". Which is why he doesn't like the Force, because moral systems being an inherent, real-life power within the world and not oneself goes against that. Especially when it explicitly paints the world plack and white.
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>>13513215
>always helping people makes them weak
>Kreia is still able to learn and cast a variety buffs that can target others or the entire party
Bravo, game devs.
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>>13503647

Space Marines, Elementals, and M.E.C.s.
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>>13513230
>1) Even a good deed can have unintended negative results
>2) Jedi are faggots
I fail to see how the good deed caused the death. The one that caused the death was the thief. The ONLY way you can justify the act of helping is at fault, is if you literally believe beggars are SUPPOSE to be poor, and that giving a beggar money breaks some natural order of things.

Thus, you can only make that argument if you believe in the Caste system. That poor people are poor because they are fated to be. And everyone who is rich is also fated to be rich. That the only reason the beggar is poor is because he is an inferior creature. And that's why you shouldn't help him.
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>>13513235
>and basically Kreia's whole thing is "everyone has to be able to stand on their own".
And thus, if someone is beggar he must be a lesser being and need to go die already.
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>>13513282
Just o add, it is interesting to find out that historically, wealthy people in the aristocracy didn't used to think they are wiser, smarter, more capable or more moral than the poor.

However, in recent generations there is a lie that we are living in a Meritocracy. As in, only superior people were able to be successful and inferior people become poor. So in the last hundred years the wealthy have started to believe they are rich because they are BETTER than everyone else. That anyone who couldn't pull them selves up by the bootstraps don't deserve to have a better life. And also to pretend that their own wealth was hard-earned wither it is or not.

Arrogance of the upper classes is a recent phenomena.
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>>13513282
I fail to see how the good deed caused the death. The one that caused the death was the thief. The ONLY way you can justify the act of helping is at fault, is if you literally believe beggars are SUPPOSE to be poor, and that giving a beggar money breaks some natural order of things.

Thus, you can only make that argument if you believe in the Caste system. That poor people are poor because they are fated to be. And everyone who is rich is also fated to be rich. That the only reason the beggar is poor is because he is an inferior creature. And that's why you shouldn't help him.

Please tell me this is a copypasta.
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>>13513455
>Please tell me this is a copypasta.
Nope. All Me. I just felt like ranting.
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>>13513217
>jumping to a political conclusion
Sometimes no matter what you do things go wrong and you cant save everybody. Thats the point. But nooo, clearly Avellone is some kind of Ayn Rand worshiper amirite??
Youre almost butthurt & stupid enough to run a generic punk bands twitter page. Jumping to far out there assumptions because of your own bias. congrats.
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>>13513461
And jut to add, I find it pathetic that a videogame of all places is trying to tell me it is morally wrong to help the poor.

Look, I get it. Some people don't like to part with their money. I understand. But to try and say it is WRONG to help the poor? That is sad.
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>>13513463
>Sometimes no matter what you do things go wrong and you cant save everybody. Thats the point.
No, that's not the point. Obviously not everyone is going to live happily ever after, but that is NOT an excuse to not help!
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>>13513463
>But nooo, clearly Avellone is some kind of Ayn Rand worshiper amirite??
Why isn't she? She clearly consider the beggars as lesser beings and beyond saving.
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>>13513461
You're way over thinking it buddy. The whole point is that your actions can have unforeseen consequences.

>>13513471
But its not morally wrong. Hell, you get light side points for giving him money!
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>>13513227
God youre naive. Just wait til one of your family or friends gets hooked on the crack or heroin. And the concept of enabling doesnt just apply there. Think about the otaku robots whose parents never forced to support themselves.
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>>13513489
>But its not morally wrong
Err, that should've been "The game doesn't say its morally wrong."
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>>13513444
M.I.?
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>>13504534
>Where did you find them all?
The frames are all over the place honestly.

So far I have found:
An incomplete suit of X-01, and a complete suit of Raider MkII out in the glowing sea.
A full suit of T-60 at the National Guard Depot.
An incomplete suit of T-51 on the way to fort strong
A full suit of X-03 at suit 23
There is the free suit of T-45 you get at the start of the game
There is another suit atop a radar dish that is controlled by super mutants
There is a crashed virtibird in the southern swamps that has a suit that changes based on your level.
There is also the suit you get after the mission to execute Paladin Danse

And there are still a shitload more out there
I could only manage to fit 6 of the 14 or so power armour frames that I have into the hanger I made for them.
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>>13504675
That is the best fucking quest in the game
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>>13503803
fuck of Maxon
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>>13513612

I am up to 13 suits.

I stopped picking up the frames, and just grab armor parts now.
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>>13509609

See, THIS is what I'm talking about.
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>>13509814

Well, that and be honest if they lasted forever (Fusion re-breeder mod) who the fuck in their right mind would ever leave their PA?

>>13512638

Thats taken from Starship Troopers
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>>13513774
People trying to sneak? That is definitely a good point though.
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>>13513612
thats a sweet ass hangar. im afraid i probably wont be able to fit them all in the gas station hanger since im up to 3.
>>13513849
mods will fix it ;)
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You know what sucks about FO4? How fucking expensive everything is and how hard it is to find adhesives. Its used in almost every mod but that shit is harder to find than gold. (Quite literally actually seeing as gold watches and lighters are fucking everywhere.)
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>>13513877
Both get easier with time I've found. As you get more perks and other bonuses the prices become more manageable. Not to mention better stuff to sell for caps.
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>>13513877

Get a farm going; A big farm can produce adhesive rather effectively.

It's still shitty that it basically shoehorns you into using the settlement system though.
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>>13513977
Having a devil of a time getting peeps to come to my settlements though. I have 15 beds and food, water and defense out the wazoo at my largest settlement and I'm still stuck at 7 people there, with all my other ones averaging 2.

Also I got the perk that lets you set up supply lines between settlements, but I still can't use materials I have stored at one settlement at others.
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>>13514117
Do you have radio antennas set up at the settlements? Thats how you get people to move to your new ones. As for resources you can transport them manually by taking them out of your workshop.
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