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How can we make Mazinger more relevant to modern times?

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How can we make Mazinger more relevant to modern times?
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Just follow the Nagai manga with minor changes

>Cute boy as MC
>Slice-of-life
>Mazinger is a wild beast that destroyed Tokyo on the first episode
>Grandpa is a mad scientist that wanted his grandson to conquer the world (if that's what he wish)
>The Ota manga has a Dr Hell's backstory
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By turning Nagai into a edgy opressed teenager again.
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>>12445778
We make a deconstruction out of it
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>>12445857
I thought RGZ was in charge of that
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We need to re-establish Mazinger as a competitive machine in modern mecha environment.
Just not go overboard like Zero, that was a bit too much and the ride isn't even over yet.
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>>12445869
Nonono
it needs to be a deconstruction
made by Anno
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Shin Mazinger and Shin Mazinger Zero are the best the franchise has ever been though.
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>>12445887
That's NGE
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>>12445872
But we did
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>>12445903
Exactly ;^)
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>>12445778
Make a Shin Mazinger Zero OVA.
Like, PLEASE.
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>>12445912
Well we need to do it again
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>>12445778
Holy fuck, that Kouji is so fuckable
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>>12445778
Animate Shin Mazinger Zero.
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>>12445898
>>12445951
>>12446156
what the fuck is wrong with you?

ZERO is fanfiction clusterfuck bs.

Leave the revival to Robot Girls Z which is actually doing quite good.
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>>12446163
>ZERO is fanfiction clusterfuck bs.
>i havent read the manga let me make assumptions
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>>12446163
>Leave the revival to Robot Girls Z which is actually doing quite good.
I'll take something with actual robots in it over moeshit.
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>>12446180
i have read what's scanlated.

i don't see what you fags see in it.

yeah the girls are fuckable, but that's about it. the rest barely makes sense. It cannot be turned into an anime.
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>>12446163
I bet this guy hates Shin Mazinger Z-hen too.

>>12446192
>the rest barely makes sense
He's not too bright it seems.
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>>12445778
Mazinger ZERO Adaptation. Possibly with the involvement of Gen Urobuchi.
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>>12446216
>Gen Urobuchi.
Why would you need that?
It's edgy enough as it is
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>>12445912
If we're talking specifics, Mazinger fucking dies in episode 1. I suppose it's fine since Kaiser is kooler, though.
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>>12446216
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gen Urobuchi.
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>>12446202
no fuck off.

shin mazinger is fucking great, and it actually has a plot!!!

why the fuck do you even want a shin mazinger zero ova? mazinsaga, z mazinger, usa mazinger, everything nagai has ever done concerning mazinger is at least 10 times better than zero.

till now you still haven't explained why zero is so good, and why it deserves an ova.
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>>12446238
You clearly haven't read Shin Zero
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>>12445912
>tfw The Kaiser is a thing of the past

No tears, only re-imaginings of the original show now.
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to even claim that zero is one of the best things to come out of mazinger... are you guys retarded?
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>>12446238
So we can circlejerk at how OP it is like Demonbane
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>>12446238
I never said anything an OVA. Stop trying to call samefag, dippers. Shin Mazinger Zero is great, one of the best Mazinger series out there. If the plot doesn't make sense to you then you clearly aren't paying attention. The designs are top notch and completely modern while still retaining the style of the original. It's fucking great and if you don't feel that way then who cares
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>>12446247
>implying
Where you like it or not Mazinkaiser is still alive and kicking
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>>12446234
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>muhdoka
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>>12445898

I agree, on the other hand it didn't do particularly well commercially by the looks of things and never really captured the public imagination in the way it did back in the 70s. Certainly it never did gangbusters like we'd all wish. As such I think the original question about making it more relevant to modern times the OP posed has some merit.

Personally I'd say that it's true that some aspects of the Mazinger formula could be changed to make it more appealing to modern kids. Kouji for instance could be changed from the rather outspoken and brash guy we all know and love in to a more generic nerdy kid who grows in to that cool guy over the course of a show by starting to train to be a better pilot, gaining more confidence due to social exposure as it's pilot and contact with Sayaka etc.

You could even go as far as modeling Mazinger more after God Mazinger and have it be a power armor instead of a giant mech, with Sayaka becoming a magical girl instead of getting her own power armor.

Also, get Platinum games to make a Mazinger game please and thanks. Them or someone else high profile that'll get some brand recognition in the faces of younger people basically - Platinum would be my pick though, because I love their games.
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>>12446226
Because like it or not, he sells.

I didn't say it was what I want, just what would sell to modern audiences.
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>>12446244
i have read whatever's scanlated. i know some of the story, and i still don't see what makes it worthwhile.

it's just minerva time reset. kouji dies, boss dies, whatever, and they fight dr.hell.

can you tell me then what makes zero deserving of an adaptation as opposed to mazinsaga?
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>>12446255
>Shin Mazinger Zero is great, one of the best Mazinger series out there.
Funny thing you still haven't explained why it deserves an adaptation. You just said the designs are good. So? That's barely enough.
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>>12446244
i clearly have, but i want to know why you think it's so good.
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>>12446259
Urobutcher only know how to appeal to otakus. He just doesn't get the world outside Akihabara.
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>>12446270
>Funny thing you still haven't explained why it deserves an adaptation.
What are you? The committee? Here's your answer anyway: it's top notch and fully modernized. You don't like it? Well you're in the minority. Take your opinion and go cuddle with it.
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>>12446299

Not him, but saying it's good and modern isn't an answer. Not a real answer anyways. What makes it good? What makes it modern? Those are just values, not reasons.
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>>12446258
>Personally I'd say that it's true that some aspects of the Mazinger formula could be changed to make it more appealing to modern kids. Kouji for instance could be changed from the rather outspoken and brash guy we all know and love in to a more generic nerdy kid who grows in to that cool guy over the course of a show by starting to train to be a better pilot, gaining more confidence due to social exposure as it's pilot and contact with Sayaka etc.
That kinda sound like the premise of Z Mazinger
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>>12446247
that wouldn't be a bad thing if true

Mazinkaiser is the very definition of an unnecessary upgrade
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>>12446326
No, Mazinkaiser's upgrade was the definition of unnecessary upgrade. Mazinger himself had an entire show of being obsolete.
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>>12446299
>how is ZERO good?
>it's good and modern
Hilarious that you can't even explain anything good about ZERO at all.

Yet it wasn't such a hard question. I can find plenty of good things in Shin Mazinger, why can't you do the same for ZERO?
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The other posters gave up as well. They want a ZERO ova, yet they don't have a single good thing to say about it. I guess RGZ is fine for the revival then, because it's top notch and modern.
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>>12445778
>Remove all personality from Kouji and make his design more generic by removing the sideburns and changing his hairstyle to something more normal so that people can self insert as him
>Change Mazinger's appearance to make him more GMish and give him a gun
>Replace Boss and friends with 3 generic moeblobs for Kouji's harem
>Make plot pseudo deep as possible by adding as much religious elements and science terms as possible
>Have T.M.Revolution do the OP
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>>12446311

Possibly, I'm only vaguely familiar with a lot of the more esoteric Mazinger entries. Or essentially, any of the ones that never got a translation like Z Mazinger and God Mazinger. It's a fairly varied franchise though from what I can tell, with Nagai trying a lot of different things across different entries so I shouldn't be surprised that a random suggestion is similar to something he's already done.
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>>12446333
I'm still quite mad Z didn't return in the Dragonsaurus movie when everybody else arrive.
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>>12446350
Oh an have Urobuchi and Trigger work on it for one episode so we can slap their names on it
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>>12446347
No one wants to talk with a troll, dumbass.
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>>12446350
That sounds like Gargantia, minus the T.M. Revolution OP
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>>12446398
>having an opinion is trolling
Also nice evasion.

>ZERO being the greatest thing Mazinger has to offer
Now you're trolling.
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>>12446398
Oh yeah you sure told him
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SHIN MAZINGER ZERO IS GOOD BECAUSE IT'S TOP NOTCH AND MODERN, GUYS!

Why the fuck are there so many retards on /m/?
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>>12446424
because it doesn't attempt to filter out retards like half the other boards do
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>>12446104
We need more Mazinguys in glasses. I'd post some but unfortunately I'm on mobile.
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I've never watched anything Mazinger related, is Shin Mazinger a good place to start?
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It's pretty simple to figure out what just happened. These retards had to actually read Shin ZERO. They just saw the nice rape namek art, and thought it might look cool in anime format. The reason they can't even explain why they think ZERO is good is because they don't know shit about it.

They're basically clawshrimpy tier.

How the fuck would ZERO even work in OVA format? The story is messy and there's not much of a conclusion other than the fight continues against the Mycenae in the sequel manga. You could argue that Minerva's personal drama in wanting this time loop to end could be the whole focus of it, but then, this series require you to know at least some of the main characters to actually give a fuck.

ZERO is the worst possible way to introduce people to Mazinger. This wouldn't be a revival, it would be a disaster.
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>>12446104
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>>12446461
Yes, yes it is. Now fuck off.
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>>12446461
Kind of? It's a mish mash of a dozen different Mazinger properties and iterations, so some basic familiarity with the franchise would help. Mazinkaiser was my intro series, that did the trick. Shin's the most plot heavy Mazinger Z show though, it kind of stands out in that regard.
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>>12446472
AsukaxKouji OTP
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>>12446461
I would recommend getting yourself familiar with the original manga first Then maybe watch Mazinkaiser/Mazinkaiser SKL.

Shin Mazinger has the good ideas and scene reproduction of the various mangas presented in a cohesive manner but it isn't anything like the toei anime or Mazinkaiser in terms of direction.

To put it simply,

Mazinkaiser/Mazinkaiser SKL if you want to see giant robot action
Shin Mazinger if you want to see the lore behind Mazinger

Which is why I personally recommend Imagawa's Shin Mazinger after Mazinkaiser just to see the contrast in the storytelling.
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>>12446461
You can consult the wiki.

http://mazinger.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
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>>12446461
I would probably recommend starting with the manga or Mazinkaiser. Shin makes a decent enough entry point, but I think it's better enjoyed if you're familiar with at least the basic elements of the Mazinger story.

Shin is damn good, though. Easily the best thing to come out of Mazinger.
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>>12446411
>>12446416
>>12446424
>>12446468
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>>12446522
Biggest misuse and misfire of the Italiano pic. The difference is that italyfags just call everything shit. All I asked was what is so good about ZERO. Yet you were too retarded to even answer.
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How's the Mazinkaiser movie, anyway?

>>12446461
I watched Mazinkaiser first, no regrets here.

>>12446326
>unnecessary upgrade
>Gunbuster
>Shin Getter
The Mazinger franchise had to step it up.
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>>12446597
The Mazinger franchise is one of the ones that can easily get away with adding improvements without including a new machine. Hell, the original Mazinger just kept getting stronger and stronger with each series until MAZINKAISER.
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>>12446597
Kind of crappy. The switch to early digital after the ahnd drawn majesty of the original Kaiser OVA didn't help. It's seventy minutes of Kouji watching his friends die while the Mycenaeans try to prevent him from getting in Mazinkaiser. Then he gets in Mazinkaiser and kills them all in five minutes. And it's an entertaining five minutes, but the buildup was way too long to warrant that. And Ankoku Daishogun goes out like a bitch, makes for a disappointing climax. Also no good subs for it. After a decade.
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>>12446635
>The switch to early digital after the ahnd drawn majesty of the original Kaiser OVA didn't help
Oh god, CG?

>It's seventy minutes of Kouji watching his friends die while the Mycenaeans try to prevent him from getting in Mazinkaiser
Oh God. M- Mazinger isn't usually this dark, is it?

>Also no good subs for it. After a decade.
I was fine with Mazinkaiser's subs, are they any worse?
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You can't make Mazinger contemporary. It's super duper deeply rooted in the era of super robots
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>>12446722
>Oh God. M- Mazinger isn't usually this dark, is it?
>Didn't read the manga
The final Grendizer chapter would probably freak you out a bit.
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>>12446597
Mazinkiaser movie was great. Some people are miffed that Kouji doesn't pilot until the near end, but fuck them they have ADHD. It was a great remake of the Ankoku Daishogun movie. The animation, however, was a bit of a downgrade from the excellently cel animated OVA series but it's still good animation.
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>>12446737
Exactly, so you go the opposite route like Mazinger Angels and embrace the 70s.
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>>12446737
>>12446883
No.
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>>12446896
2Nagai4you anon?
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>>12446635
Is it canon? Is there even a canon?
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>>12446925
There is no canon. Everybody just do as they please to Mazinger.
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>>12446925
It's canon to OVA Mazinkaiser. Which is a separate continuity from Banpresto Original Kaiser, and the three or so different Kaiser manga continuities out there.

Like this guy said>>12446968, Mazinger isn't some well structured or tightly knit saga. It's not Getter Robo. It's just dumb robot manga Uncle Go makes to blow of some steam, story is secondary to that. Like Mazinger USA where Kouji is a super robot pilot in proto Warhammer 40,000 and he ends up sent to alien planet where it's like Gulliver's Travels if Jonathan Swift was heavily influenced by 80s Heavy Metal and he earns the love of the titty monster giantess Queen before being sent back to his own crappy universe.
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>>12447017
>It's canon to OVA Mazinkaiser
Man, now I'm heavily obligated to watch it. Aside from the twins, how bad are the deaths?
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>>12447042
They're a bit brutal but Kaiser's problem is that they just introduce the rest of the Mazinger Army and quickly kill themed off without even knowing their names.
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>>12447042
The other two faggots in the Mazinger Corps., but they always die. Shin Mazinger's the only version I know of where they actually live. One of the three comic relief Professors bites it too, I won't say which one. Boss dies too, but he's immortal of course. I think he flat out says "Why the fuck should I die for you Kabuto?!"And then he chain whips Archduke Gorgon without breaking a sweat. Kaiser Boss is simply the best.
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>>12446449
>>12446472
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BURN IT UP

WHERE'S MY GREAT-HEN?
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Just add Duke Fleed
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>>12447558
Why are you so obsessed with that?
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Remake Grendizer and crank up the Koji x Duke subtext all the way up to 11.
It is the only way.
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>>12445778

Make Tetsuya the MC and Kouji as the sidekick.
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>>12448270

So basically just make the sequel to Shin Mazinger Z, Shin Great Mazinger Z.
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>>12445951

This, and then make Shin Great Mazinger and just be done with it fucking OVAs and shit.

Fuck Grendizer though, but if the rest is done, why the fuck not.
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>>12448301
>6 or 7 years still no Shin-Great Mazinger

It will never happen anymore
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A better idea is figuring out how to bring back Getter Robo, it's been a decade since New aired.

No, you can't just go and adapt the manga, that would be too easy.
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Why don't we just make a Mazinger based from alien technology.
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>>12448368
If it's so easy why haven't they done it already?
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>>12448368
But it would help plebs like me who read manga at a super-slow pace get through it.
Anyway, a full-length SGvNG would be cool, Especially if God Getter was a fusion of Shin Getter and Neo Getter and had fucking crazy moves like Plasma Sunshine

>>12447072
>One of the three comic relief Professors bites it

Can't deal with it.
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>>12448368
The ony person in Japan willing to do that is Imashi, and he already did it.
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>>12448788
trigger's too popular

/m/ would rather deen adapt getter robo than trigger
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>>12448788
Kawagoe or Imagawa could do it
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>>12446472
>Asuka and Kouji constantly fighting/Flirting between missions
>They eventually having a single night of amazing sex
>Asuka is finally cured of her bitchiness
I didn't realise I wanted this
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>>12448799
deen is cool

dunno what everyone got against them
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>>12453557
Probably the awful animation.
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>>12453563
I'm not too concerned about that

i wouldn't be a fan of his animated adaptations otherwise.

because the bulk of them are low budget.

and you know what, gifuu doudou (which imagawa scripted the first half of) was quite fun.
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>>12446468
Sell it as a sequel to Z-Hen having the main series as the very next timeline
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For starters, any new anime project would need to completely ditch the Nagai art style. The first thing people look at is the characters, and your average anime fan will instantly disregard any show with 40 year old aesthetics. Instead, get a character designer that worked on a popular series from this generation, like Gundam 00 or Macross Frontier or something, to hook people's interest by visual association. Then throw away all shame and pander hard to both waifufags and fujos.

If you still have time and resources after that, try to add some robots.
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>>12453647
>and your average anime fan will instantly disregard any show with 40 year old aesthetics

I don't know, doesn't the retro style in Japan have kind of an appeal for how iconic it is?
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>>12445778
Turn it into a homage of 70s mecha
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>>12446522
are my countrymen particularly grognards here on /m/?
i'm new
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>>12453647
>The first thing people look at is the characters, and your average anime fan will instantly disregard any show with 40 year old aesthetics

Good one, faglord, except SGvNG's and Mazinkaiser's artstyles were the most refreshing things ever to me after the endless barrage of sameface garbage we've gotten recently.
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...

Shin Mazinger Z Hen?
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>>12453725
And are you the average anime fan?
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>>12453746
Didn't Japan hate Shin because NOT MUH KOUJI
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>>12453761

It had a terrible timeslot and no budget and bandai forced them to cut out minutes of footage from every episode. It could have been a commercial success but Dynamic Pro can't have a modern anime without running into ridiculous production problems.
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>>12453759
Apologies, please disregard my earlier comment, I'm still in denial about the anime industry's sorry state.
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>>12445872
Are they seriously not allowed to say Gundam or Evangelion?
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