How important is reading Hegel to understanding Marx?

>>9976368
Not very. Reading Marx can help more in understanding Hegel than vice versa

Understanding Marx's understanding of Hegel is fairly important to understanding Marx. Reading Hegel now would be like reading a Chinese instruction manual, if you do it on your own without any help, and would have nothing to do with Marx if you had help from modern Hegel commentators.

Is it true Marx misinterpreted what Hegel wrote, which is why we have the fever dream known as Marxism? What secondary sources should I read on Hegel before reading his philosophy so that I won't turn into a Marxist?

>>9976368
It's not important but it gives you insight. It's more important for early Marx who is trying to develop a theory of human nature and how man interacts with society (alienation) but is not necessary.

There's a good video from a Yale course on Modern Social Theory on Marx's theory of alienation which also defines Hegel's definitions of subject and object. In later videos he even links Marx to Nietzsche and Freud which is very interesting.

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>>9976410
There is no orthodox reading of Hegel.

Try Herbert Marcuse, Charles Taylor, Robert Pippin.

>>9976410
>the fever dream known as Marxism
Can't you apply this to most philosopher's schools of thought? Most of these people were at their best when not particularly sane, especially critical theorists.

>>9976411
>>9976368
fucked up the link
https://youtu.be/kIlEkbU4rx0

>>9976431
Accurate summation of the board

>>9976368
To understand Marxism as such, not much. To understand Capital, the Logic is necessary.

>>9976387
False.

>>9976395
>can't be done alone

False. It can, and has been done. I've done it, the Logic is especially fit for beginning fresh.

>>9976410
Partly.

>>9976411
It's least important to early Marx. Early Marx is a Feuerbachian Spinozist with some Aristotelian tendencies. There is no similarity with Hegel in style nor substance.

>>9976412
For ignorants who don't read Hegel's Logic this is true. For those who study Hegel systematically there definitely is a specific general orthodox reading.

More important to read Engels.

>>9976368
Yo what the fuck are we just gonna ignore this? What the fuck is up with that horse!

>>9976874
I came to this thread for this reason. What's with the horse in OP?

>>9976874
>>9976885
Looks like it's had parts of a dog's head photoshopped onto it.

>>9976874
its photoshop you dumdum, still very haunting

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>reading hegel

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>>9976368
>Implying Marx is worth understanding.