/lit/'s thoughts on Lord of the Flies?

Girls are HOT

it's fucking great

>>9971502
>Trying to hide the fact that he's secretly a faggot

It was a good book to read when I was 14 years old, in retrospect it was okay.

>>9971503
Could you explain why?

it's good, deserves its place in the starter kit
but nothing incredible

>>9971518
Well, I'd say I'm quite beyond the "starter kit" phase. I probably would've read it back in the 9th grade if I had moved in to my new high school sooner. Should I read it anyway?

>>9971532
its a pretty short and easy, so you might as well.

I liked it, but I was 12.

Short, easy and fun read. Give it a go OP, The trial scene is slick as hell. Piggy dindu nuffin.

girls

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WHY ARE THERE NO WOMEN??? WILLIAM GOLDING IS A SEXIST PIG WHO WON'T REPRESENT WOMEN!!! THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!

>>9971501
Its a children's book written by a bong
So naturally the kids ass-rape a pig with a spear.
Why are bongs so degenerate?
We should nuke England.

>>9971690
Actually, from what I heard, he was a major beta cuck. He wrote a book as a way to rant on "toxic masculinity" and believed women to be the superior sex.

>>9971501
I thought it was incredible when I was 13, probably the book that got me into classics. A little scared to re-read it though.

>>9971713
>A little scared to re-read it though
how come?

What does /lit/ think of the upcoming movie adaption that replaces all the boys with girls instead?

>>9971501
Shit. It's like an angry, reactionary grandpa's idea of what "kids these days" are like.

Guys, could you please elaborate a bit on your responses?

>>9971939
Sure - it's a pessimistic view of humanity, and more specifically children, where any sort of empathy or morality disappears the second things get difficult, and everyone is just a violent brute. It resonated with me as a 13-year-old boy because I was an arrogant little shitter who thought "every man for himself" was a working philosophy, but looking back it's just needlessly edgy and incoherent.

>>9972151
Wow, interesting. Thanks for the detailed reply.

>>9972151
I agree that it shows a pessimistic view of humanity, but I wouldn't link it to the idea of 'every man for himself'. Both 'tribes' are communities, even though one is more violent than the other, it's more of an attempt to explore how terrible children can be.
In a lot of ways it's a kid's Heart of Darkness; the 'civilised' public schoolboys end up abandoning their 'proper' sensibilities and reverting to more violent and base instincts because we are not as good as we think we are when we're dragged from our comforts and find that maintaining our rules is difficult compared to less 'moral' options.
(this is also why John green seems to hate it, hence why he gets posted every time this book comes up. All the stuff about women aside, he really objects to the idea that humans aren't fundamentally good.)

It also strays into examining the power of a charismatic leader with essentially a personal army to shape the mind of 'society' and make people allow atrocities they'd never normally have dreamed of accepting, but given how much it was inspired by World War 2 that isn't particularly surprising.

>>9972270
So basically a YA version of Heart of Darkness? No wonder it never made it to the Western Canon.

>>9972474
Outside of the core idea it touches on different themes than HoD but in a lot of ways yes, it's a YA Heart of Darkness. I'm always surprised when people discuss the book without looking at how much Heart of Darkness must have inspired Goulding. I have to admit, I love Heart of Darkness, and the similarities helped to enjoy Lord of the Flies when I read it for the first time as an adult.

>>9972490
Well, now I know what to read. Thanks.

>>9972501
Always glad to help out.

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SIMON IS JESUS
:^)

>>9971849
How could someone miss the point this fucking hard?

>>9971501
Really good for high school aged readers.

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I liked this one better.