Building a home library

>>9970290
Why are you not introducing them to quality film too?

>>9970296
>quality film
HA

>>9970296
Probably because he's worried it will make them apathetic towards reading.

>>9970296
Movies take up too much time. We'll have family movie nights on weekends. If they want to watch a movie on their own they'll have to split it between two days.

>>9970310
>take up too much time
>>9970290
>as well as standout comics and manga.
>to limit their video/game time to an hour per day

>>9970303
This. I have a media room and I keep the key in a timesafe so I concentrate on writing.

>>9970290
Start by actually having kids, otherwise it's a risky investment.

>>9970310
You'd be better off limiting them to one movie they watch themselves a week and allowing them to watch it in one sitting. It's a legitimate art form and one designed to be watched in one go. Just make sure they're watching quality stuff.

DESU the amount of restrictions you're placing on them, I can't help but feel you're going to make them resent reading. Limiting games ot an hour a day is good though as they still get a daily fix without it being too much.

>>9970319
Huh. Is t-b-h censored? Let's test it.

desu

Don't be such a tyrant, man. Show some real quality books to your children, but if they don't enjoy it, don't force it. Otherwise they'll grow up hating lit

>>9970324
Exactly. Having cool looking books and an aesthetic library is good. Read them bedtime stories every night. Read together nightly when they are old enough. Make it a parental bonding thing.

But the restrictions are a bit much. Limiting gaming is all right, but movies in two sittings in a locked room is a bit much.

>>9970312
Kids here stay at school until 6pm. A couple of hours for studying/homework leaves a half hour for supper and two hours for entertainment depending on chores. An hour of games/video I think is fair since kids need at least a bit of that. The manga is mostly for them to take on the road as light reading. I figure they'll spend about an hour in the library on weeknights and a few hours a day on weekends.

>>9970333
Your children will hate you

>>9970333
If you have to make a choice, film>games.

>>9970314
I already have kids.

>>9970319
The two hours studying schoolwork is sacrosanct. Maybe I can let them watch a full movie on their own on weekends, but they simply don't have time on weeknights without cutting into time they should be reading or out with friends. Time here is tighter and frankly most movies aren't worth the runtime.

>>9970351
It doesn't take two hours to finish homework. If they really are in school till 6, and them have to do two hours homework, they are going to be miserable. Until they're in highschool doing actual essays homework should take about twenty minutes tops.

You can't force your kids to be smart.

>>9970290
Manga? -> pathetic
Get your kids to grow up as weebos is what will happen.

>>9970359
Works for East Asian students.

You sound like an overbearing control freak. Your kids will leave home as soon as they turn 16 and never read again.

>>9970290
When autism is left to raise children

>>9970290
I'm glad my parents weren't autistic like you so I was able to grow into my own interests

>Childrens, young adult and genre.
>Barnes and Nobles leatherbound.

Consider suicide faggot.

>>9970359
>You can't force your kids to be smart.
This desu

>>9970339
It's normal here.

>>9970340
For their hour they can choose to watch an episode or two of a TV show, watch most of a movie, or play video games. There isn't time for any more than that. All I'm asking is they spend half their free time reading or playing outside.

>>9970363
They are all raised similarly over there. And all your kids friends will have far less restrictions than yours. They will know this and grow to resent you and reading too.

Unless your in a country where that is the norm (in which case go for it), this is not a good idea. You are valuing their intelligence over their happiness.

Forcing shit on your kids and regulating their behaviour above a level that is neither strict or "do whatever you want' tier is a surefire way to raise reactionary kids who rebel against everything you teach them.

>>9970373
*you're

>>9970371
Where is here?

>>9970359
>what is the Asian education system

>>9970362
They're half Japanese. Kids read manga here.

>>9970386
>Half Japanese
I take it back then

>>9970364
>>9970365
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>>9970368
Wow.

>>9970373
What are you you talking about? Most kids here go to cram school after clubs.

Two hours studying/homework is relatively slack and if they finish their homework early or have none that can go toward freetime.

>>9970290

So I assume the reason you've not said where you've moved is because it's Japan. It's okay OP, everyone's judging you anyway.

If you want advice on what book editions to get, as you ask in the OP before devolving into just talking about how you'll raise the kids, for most books it really doesn't matter. You want to appeal to the eye, so just go for the covers you like. >>9970331 has the right idea for getting them interested: make reading seem fun rather than scheduled like a chore or they'll hate it.

Also, trying so hard to fit into the Japanese education system is a bum goal from the get go. They're half, so they're screwed by the culture anyway. At least try and let them choose their own fun.

>>9970290
Op is a fag and reminder your kids grow up stupid if they read nothing but schlocky paperbacks

Your son will read anne rice and cut his dick off you idiot

>>9970296
Is there any guide to quality film? Assuming it's not just sorting IMDB from top which i've been doing already.

>>9970415
Holy fuck get out of /lit/ you filthy pseud

>>9970377
Man I went to school with kids who played three or four hours of video games a night. I'm not raising that kid.

>>9970385
Japan. I'm worried about the kids not learning English so having a ton of English books around seems like a good idea.

>>9970413
Interview with the Vampire isn't that bad of a novel.

>>9970430
Anne rice is as bad as tom clancy or twilight. You are an idiot foe thinking itherwise

Your kids are going to hate you. Let them read kids stuff as kids, not your "cultured" bullshit that only midwits like you enjoy

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>>9970371

Your kids barely have any free time as it is. Why not let them do what they want? If you make reading into a chore, you won't "raise a reader," you'll raise a kid who associates reading with his pedant of a father.

>>9970438
This. Op, let them do what they want as long as it isnt gay porn.

If you force them to do what you want, not only will they become more aware that your ideas are stupid and worthless (no, your literature selection is NOT good and they can see that from a mile away) they will come to HATE you for forcing YOUR bad decisions onto them. They will smell the raw vanity that makes you angry at them when they dont waste time on your hobbies

You are literally jumping out of the frying pan of being a mediocre parent and into the fire of one of the worst mistakes a parent can make.

Maybe YOU should read a parenting book you idiot.

This is literally some of the worst parenting ive ever heard of. I should expect nothing less from the emotional wrecks on 4chinz

>>9970438
This

Also, what the fuck? 6pm? Why so much time?

>>9970452
Thats just asia, anon.

Hey OP heres an idea, ratherRthan waste hundreds a month in a library, how about you SAVE that momey so your kids can have an inheritance you idiot.

THEN you take them to the library so they can choose 2 books in english.

Jesus fuck, you must be mentally disabled and your partner is mentqlly disabled for choosing you. Maybe you should invest in autism treatments. Your kids are gonna come out retardrd like you.

>>9970445
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>>9970456
This is why China has overtaken the West in academics, scientific discoveries, intelligence and engineering.

>>9970465
And misery

>>9970436
>>9970445
lol

>>9970438
No.

They'll have an hour of optional electronic entertainment, and another hour of non-electronic freetime during which they can read if they want, plus any bonus time from finishing homework taken out of their two hours study time as added freetime.

Five hours of TV/movies/video games a night is retarded.

>>9970456
Yeah because Japanese libraries stock so many English books.

I'm also building the library for myself you know.

I can afford to both build a library and give my children an inheritance.

>>9970470
False.

>>9970471
>Five hours of TV/movies/video games a night is retarded.
No one is suggesting this. There is a middle ground between your extreme and the one you are suggesting here.

Let them watch a movie every now and then. Not every night, sure, but every now and then. For fuck sake, you're in Japan, a nation that has made some of the best movies ever.

Read to them/read together/encourage them to read (delete as appropriate depending on age) before bed every night. Make it organic, make it fun, make it a bonding exercise. Encourage them to love it. Force it on them and they will hate it and drop it as soon as they can.

Movies are shit.

>>9970430
>Man I went to school with kids who played three or four hours of video games a night.

and the chances are that 99% of them turned out ok

>>9970430
>I'm worried about the kids not learning English so having a ton of English books around seems like a good idea.
> that bad of a

you should read a few of those english books yourself

>>9970452
Starting in junior high, kids get out of school at 3pm and stay until around 6pm doing club stuff (younger grades sometimes leave at 5pm). Clubs are pretty much mandatory here, as is studying at least 2 hours a night. High schools and universities here have very competitive admissions tests. The kids have to learn a ton of kanji and stuff, which takes time. Knowing English will be a huge advantage for my kids. And no I'm not going to let them bomb their admissions tests and drop out just because they're hafus. I don't care if they go to university but I'd like them to go to college.

>>9970496
Put it this way - they are schooling for most of their lives already. They're free time is extremely precious to them. Let them enjoy it. That doesn't mean hours of video games. Just make the reading time fun and they will become readers in their own time.

It's parents like OP which creates Nevada-chans

Cringing for the father, crying for the children. The worst thing is that OP's ego is so inflated that there's no way to actually let him understand that he's totally wrong about how knowledge arises, how people develop interests... he is creating a comfort zone that will create bored, hateful children - not a fertile place ready to adapt to their minds and connect with them.

>>9970522
Yeah. They are already in a very intense education system.

OP's main concern should be making reading fun. What he's doing is making it a chore.

Step 2 of your downs syndrome plan is where will you fit this library? Homes in japan are small.

Step 3 is when you realize hundreds of dollars a month on books qualifies you as an idiot.

Buy the books they ask for on amazon.

I mean, for fucks sake, you already have to resort to asking US for book reccomendations because you are clearly an idiot already

Am i supposed to honestly believe someone as stupid as you has a kob that pays well enough for you to waste hundreds a month on books?

You dont even have a reasonable grasp over your own hobby

>>9970481

Listen to me.

Starting in junior high, the kids have two hours of free time.

I don't have any choice in that. Do you understand that? Do you appreciate that? It isn't up to me. That's just how things are here. Humans need to sleep. Kids here have to do clubs. Kids here have to study. That isn't up to me. I can't change that. Nor do I want to.

That leaves two hours. Do you follow so far? Two hours. That's two more hours than most kids here get. Most go to cram school, which I won't send my kids to.

Two hours. Understand? Two hours.

They're not spending those two hours staring at a screen. Most kids would. Most kids do. I believe that there are more valuable things they could do, but I won't rule it out completely.

How about half?

They can spend an hour staring at a screen if they want, but then they're going to spend an hour doing something that isn't starting at a screen, whatever they want to do.

I'm not forcing them to read. I'm just making sure they have that option available to them for that hour or two. They can do whatever they want in that second hour except stare at a screen. They can go play outside. They can go to the store. They can do a hobby. They have two hours, and I want to make sure they don't lose both of them to the TV. One is enough to get any benefit the TV has to offer.

>>9970496
don't be an asian parent, please

i was raised this way -- try to make your parenting the european or american academic way

>>9970530
Take televisions and cell phones out of the house then. Dont fill your home with an air of desperation over losing control and fear. This directly fucks your relationship with then and poisons their perception of you, though, given the rest of your ego, this seems inevitable.

Read a basic parenting book. Its sad the other 4chunz neets have a better grasp over this than you do.

>>9970505
>That doesn't mean hours of video games.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I'M LIMITING GAMES TO ONE HOUR

>>9970526
What the FUCK are you blathering about? How is limiting video games to an hour a day turning reading into a chore? They don't have to read at all if they don't feel like it. There are things to do besides reading.

>>9970528
Did I ask you for any recommendations you moronic piece of shit?

I already explained that I OWN A HOUSE IN THE COUNTRY WITH A ROOM BIG ENOUGH FOR A LIBRARY. Retard.

I only asked you the difference between Leatherbound Classics and Collectible Editions. A question which none of you fucking idiots has bothered to answer.

>>9970537
We don't have a TV.

>>9970290
Some Children's Books:
Anything by Jon Sciezsca
Anything by Leo Leonni
Anything by David Wiesner
Dr. Desoto (this is very possibly the best children's book ever written); Sylvester and the Magic Pebble; Yellow & Pink - by William Steig
The Dot - Randi Zuckerberg
Let's Do Nothing - Tony Fucile

I could list more, but these are the best to encourage inquisitive reading. They're also lots of fun. Some that are just fun: Piggy Pie, The Monster at the End of this Book, Purple Green and Yellow)

Children's books are expensive and look ugly on a shelf. Plus your kid will ruin them. Not sure what to recommend for that - will take suggestions

>>9970534
Seeing as how we don't live in the West but in Japan they're not going to be getting out of school at 3pm with half an hour of homework freeing them to play video games until bedtime unless I write a very persuasive letter to Abe and convince him to reform the education system. Looks like we'll just have to adapt.

>>9970542
If you post evidence of your terrible parenting along with a boring literature question you better believe people are going to call you out on your awful parenting skills.

>>9970542
There doesn't seem to be a difference, as far as I can tell. Different books are available in each range, but there won't be a difference in content of the same books (some books show up in both ranges).

If you didn't want commentary on your parenting choices, then you shouldn't have hidden your question in the middle of a long description of your plans. If you want the validation you obviously crave, and I say this totally unironically, go post this on r/books.

>>9970530
Two hours a night.

Movies (good movies that is) are not retarded like a TV show would be. Once a week let them watch a kids film, if they like. A good kids film. Miyazaki films are perfect and should be easy to get hold of over there. Early Pixar. Early Disney (seriously Fantasia is fucking patrician). Kids films are about 90 minutes.

Half an hour night time reading is fine, especially since this is only once a week. We're not asking you to let them watch movies every day, and not one person has said ordinary TV has any benefit.

Make an event of it. Wednesday movie night or whatever. Something to look forward to. If they want more movie nights tell them it will make it less special.

It's just a bit of variety, and you make it into a bonding experience, much like you should be doing with the reading.

Every kid hates school. They are going to come home pissed of and exhausted.

>>9970559
Choke to death on shit in Hell.

Limiting the amount of time your children spend watching TV is not evidence of bad parenting skills and if you think it is it's a good thing you don't have nor ever will have children.

>>9970563
Have you read the thread? I've already said that movies are for the weekend.

>>9970580
Yeah.

I'm suggesting one mid week as well isn't such a bad idea.

>>9970568
no. it is the rest of what you are doing such a micromanaging their time by the minute and the fact yoy mentioned it in the SAME BREATH as your ego project that is setting off alarm bells. also the fact you havent even reaponded to the most prescient criticisms

you are not remotely normal. your kids will hate you. it pains you that you are abnormal. fine. dont force your kids to confront it. you will end up hating your own kids and they will hate you.

this whole situation is sad. utterly, and the only reason we are in it is because we feel sorry for your kids.

you could, of course, SPEND TIME with your kids and teach them. but you have already acknowledged that you have nothing to teach via your method of parenting, which is showing us you are already afraid of being rejected by them.... because you know nothing

why dont you repost this in another forum and see how they react

>>9970561
>If you didn't want commentary on your parenting choices, then you shouldn't have hidden your question in the middle of a long description of your plans.

Only one sentence in my OP had to do with limiting screen time which is what you autists seized on and turned this entire thread into a discussion of with your ill informed hysterical screeching while avoiding the rest of the content entirely.

>If you want the validation you obviously crave, and I say this totally unironically, go post this on r/books.

I'm guessing redit would be even more furious at the prospect of a child somewhere not watching eight hours of Netflix a night. Go back.

>>9970290
If you appropriately invested 200 a month into a retirement plan you could completely fund the retirement of one of your children by the time they turn 18, or half and half

You have never worked a day in your life have you. Ive never hear of someone with such awful money skills that wasnt stuck on welfare.

>>9970591
You're an insufferable faggot.

>>9970598
Yes because I'll have to keep investing 200 a month in the library for the rest of my life.

Not just until I have a good collection. No, for the rest of my life until I retire, every single month.

Fuck, how did you get so stupid?

>>9970594
very few of us mentioned lImiting screentime because you have done this adequately.

the other aspects of your plan are ill informed. this is what we criticize. your angry reaction validates our criticism that this is about your ego and not the children. your lack of ability to read our posts and actually digure out their content demonstrates your low intelligence

dumb people can raise kids well too, but not if they act like you

>>9970608
Kill yourself.

>>9970465
But this just isn't true. The Asian education system seems to produce students who are good at math and reading, but not ones who are truly great. I go to a pretty decent state university with an top math program and tons of foreign Asian students. There perspective and understanding of the subject matter seems entirely different from western students. Most of them going into STEM programs already know multivariable calculus ("calculus III") and basic linear algebra, whereas there America counterparts (even the ones going into the math program) generally know at best calculus I or II. Nevertheless, American students seem to perform just as well, and when it comes to higher level maths and actually engaging the material in a manner appropriate or a young researcher, the Americans do better. Asian students seem to view math as a practical tool and a means to an end - strictly a computational process of following rules and algorithms to determine an answer. They seem to lack the originality and creativity of thinking required to see a subject in a new light a find an answer to an unsolved problem. Similarly, I think they view math primarily as a vector into the field of making the fancy gadjets and gizmos the ching chongs love so much, whereas in the west we a long tradition of romanticizing the simultaneous creative and analytic genius exhibited by a select few individuals who pursued pure maths for it's own sake.

>>9970606
do you have anything of aubstance to add?

you have deliberately overlooked the most salient criticisms of almost every poster here.

talk about them or let this thread die.

>>9970290
I was raised in a house with a large book collection, but rather than mandatory reading, I was simply encouraged to read any book that interested me. My parents read to me when I was young, but they rarely forced any book upon me until I was a teenager, and it had to do with my schooling. We also watched a movie every night. Try to start your kids off with a lot of black and white films or they may become turned off by them.

>>9970614
You're worthless.

>>9970290

hey cunt, why don't you introduce it to one of the greater arts like maths or physics ? or lifting ?

because you can't ? of course you can't, 70-iq try-hard monkey who can't bench 100 lbs, /lit/ is for brainlets, as a physicist im pretty sure I dominate you intellectually

the only books you should buy them are redpilled ones

I used to spend 10 hrs a day on video games
fortunately, this didn't prevent me from being taller better stronger and more intelligent than you or your kids

jewish trash

t. the ubermensch

>>9970617
You know what I've decided?

This mandatory reading thing you guys have come up with is a terrific idea.

I WILL force my kids to read. They won't be allowed outside or do whatever else they want during their free time. No. I'm going to lock them in the library for two hours a day and they'll have to finish a certain number of pages from a book of my choosing.

NO TV AT ALL.

Thanks for the advice, guys.

OP embodies the stereotype of Asian Women: Now Even Betas Can Feel Like A Real Man™. Can you imagine a normal, well-adjusted guy who doesn't need to prove anything to anybody else thinking up all of these arbitrary rules that the whole family must obey?

>>9970634
OP put your wife and and make her force you to abandon the thread for no less than 1 hour. I am japanese and i take issue with your entire attitude about this

>>9970639
>being in charge of your family is beta

>>9970634
wow thanks for responding to the story of my real and satisfactory upbringing by having a 2 year old temper tantrum and saying you want to torture your kids.

Really drives the point home that you know more about parenting than me.

>>9970645
The fact you can't understand why your paranoid micromanagement is different to merely "being in charge" speaks volumes.

>>9970634
>throwing an autistic tantrum because of strangers on a chinese cartoon imageboard

OP is one of the biggest losers I've ever had the pleasure of laughing at on this board. No surprise that he had to leave Western culture behind to find someone who'd breed with his abrasive personality.

I spent thousands of hours playing video games as a kid and never read anything, including whatever was 'required' for class. ended getting being well-read in philosophy and theology while studying stem at a one of the world's best universities, lift, have qt gf, masterful cook, job lined up in the City
lol let your kids do whatever. it'll be much harder to figure out whether your 'encouragements' will have the intended or opposite effect

>>9970634
You're unstable fella. Praying that your kids somehow grow up normal and well-adjusted in spite of your awful parenting.

>>9970648
>mandatory reading
Limiting screentime to an hour a day isn't synonymous with chaining a child to a desk with a book 24/7. Dozens of posts in this thread including yours have accused me of doing that. "Mandatory reading." What is the source of this autism?

>>9970664
I'm somewhat worried that OP will vent his frustration on his kids, either by beating them or by locking them in his basement for a few weeks

>>9970654
Limiting electronics to an hour a day is not "paranoid micromanagement" you fucking idiot.

>>9970660
Sarcasm is not a tantrum, retard.

>>9970669
my video game time was limited to an hour a day desu, that's not the issue here. The issue is that you're locking your kids into a very rigidly structured schedule for young kids to have.

>>9970664
Stay mad incel.

>>9970666
Get thee behind me.

>>9970668
You're too retarded to grasp irony. Ok.

>>9970675
The viciousness of your attacks against us, the fact you are even angry ket alone the extent of your anger, and your inability to respond to our actual criticisms is what the issue is here.

If you think this dorsnt impact your parenting you are wrong.

I have a friend whose parents were similiar to OP. He's a very smart guy, but he's also a huge autist and has never touched a girl at 21

>>9970359
This. My older brother's "play time" with dad used to consists of chess theory.

>>9970679
I say again.

Humans need to sleep.

The kids get home at 6pm.

They need to study for 2 hours to keep up with the education system.

How the FUCK would you change their schedule you knowitall fuckwit? Wave a magic wand and add more hours to the clock?

Spell out exactly what the schedule should be or stop whining.

>>9970681
I piss in your face.

Look anon I understand you are worried about your childrens ability to perform adequately in the japanese system.

Your attitude of unilaterally attacking the japanese as unthinking robots, your fear that your kids will not be adequately educated, all of this fear and anger WILL be smelled by your kids and will rub off on them.

The last thing you want is to fill them with anger towards the society they are in.

I am japanese. I have dealt with many half students. Put your wife on the thread and reapectfully retire for juat an hour. The thread is here for you to yell at later.

>>9970701
I just want to add op, that I am being respectful and polite. As your children grow up I guarantee you there are plenty who will not treat your children with this respect. It can make the difference as to whether they can make a living or are cast to the bottom of society.

I urge you to givr your wife more input, as you have no idea whatvyour kids are going to encounter.

Please put her in the thread.

>>9970709
If you'd show your wife 4chan you're too stupid to have anything to offer me or anyone I know. You have nothing. Go away.

This thread is a tragicomedy

100% the best way to get your kids to like reading is to:
1. read to them
2. read on your own around them
kids naturally want to be like their parents and if they see their parents reading and understand what they are doing, they will want to read too.
buying a massive library is dumb, let your kids pick out their own books at the bookstore! that's fun for them. let them develop their own interests and be their own person instead of this "reader" idea you want them to be

>>9970715
You are being incredibly rude. I dont want to spak to you. I want to speak to your wife.

The changes have been mentioned many times, and they have little to do with time requirements or free time. But you sre too amgry to see.

If you take this attitude with the japanese your kids are guaranteed to fail.

Put your wife on.

>>9970732
No.

>>9970694
Half an hour reading with you or their mother before bed.

That's it.

Let them use the other 90 minutes to have fun however they wish. An hour and a half unwinding with a game or film won't rot their brains and is in no way equivalent to hours of Netflix. Maybe they will play outside. Maybe they will read on their own. Let them choose it organically.

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You are a ridiculous fool, OP.

I travel to Japan often for business and pleasure. As folks in this thread have pointed out, your kids are already unfortunately going to be outcasted due to the mongrelezation they see - that's just the unfortunate reality. I have a few friends who are half and living over there. They barely hang on. How long have you lived there, I'm curious? Do you know that every Japanese I've ever met wishes they lived in the US and was a white American? Why aren't you letting your children have that same opportunity since you seem to be fairly well off? Why are you putting them into the miserable awful shit-tier Asian education system? Do you really and truly have this autistic idea that because they force the kids into doing and learning all this stuff that they won't bother to remember that it is better? No, I had an upbringing like that and I hated it. My brother was the kind of guy who wanted to rebel and got into drugs and eventually killed himself and I attribute it a lot to my parents' style of raising children which, at least in the beginning, seems to be a lot like yours. However, what's worse is that you don't seem to be a virtuous soft-power benevolent all-father but a worthless autistic (and not in a good way - many such cases!) prick who is going too overboard on his silly idealism that you forget how it makes these little kids feel. They didn't choose this path so they will resent it, that's just the way things tend to be.

I look at you and guffaw and shake my head and I'm happy I didn't go crazy and move to Japan like I was thinking. Too many guys like you are over there. Also, Japan is one of the most anti-literary societies I can imagine. We disdain Harry Potter and all of that but people over there don't read even that tripe. You don't just go and "cultivate reading," you cultivate the desire for the reasons behind one would want to read. Knowledge is the root, literature is the branch. You wait until they express interest in something and hopefully you're a renaissance man (which you aren't, you insipid fool) and have a wee bit of knowledge concerning anything at the introductory level and you can point them in the right way. My parents tried to make me read a few different book series when I was younger and I didn't like to do it because I viewed it as a chore. You don't want anyone looking at a hobby like it's a chore. That's depression-core. Lmao I am posting this from my phone and I accidentally redirected myself to the otaku board, how fitting.

But I know you're mad right now. Sorry. Sorry my post is all jumbly, too. You should listen to some of these anons. I can already put a profile of who you are together in my head though and you're too self-righteous to listen. You've gone down this path too long to turn around, have you not? Arrogant fool.

P.s. My house, the surroundings you in which should be raising your children but instead they're in a Japanese dump.

>>9970737
Well, I tried.

I feel really sorry for your kids. Not because of the school system, but becauae of you.

If they inherit even a drop of your attitude you will doom them to be temp workers of the lowest caliber and japanese attitudes towards half children will contonue to deteriorate

This is quite sad.

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>>9970741
PS give me your address so I can beat your faggot ass next time I'm in japan.

>>9970548
How are they going to watch movies in halves then?
You are such a fucking Melvin shithead

>>9970741
This is the biggest pile of shit of all.

>>9970750
And then there's this one.

>>9970764
This entire thread is depressing. The kids are going to learn awful anger management from their father. The kids are then going to work as temps in offices where thry shove kids with attitude problems until they are broken as people and impoverished.

In japan they dont coddle people with anger issues. They treat them like criminals. OP is dooming his children utterly.

OP, you seem be spending over an hour on the computer today. You don't want to set a bad example for your kids, do you?

>>9970767
We won't have broadcast television. We have a portable blu-ray player with screen.

What are you even doing on /lit/? Go back to reddo.

>>9970774
Yes because 4chan is real life. Fuuuuuuck offfffff.

>>9970775
You're right. I'm out.

Thanks for offering me no advice at all for actually building a library. This boars is awful.

>>9970740
this

>>9970779
You got an answer about the editions. There's no difference between the two leatherbound book lines.

Next time, just ask about the books. This is a board on an anonymous imageboard for discussing the books. If you want real advice about making a library, ask people who've already made one.

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So this it what happens when an autistic 4channer tries to raise children

>>9970779
Your inability to take basic criticism and identify the main points without getting distracted by minor points that bug you is a huge indicator.

You havent once responded to the main point which I have seen posted at least 7 times already. No, it is not related to time management.

This is exacerbated by the fact that you think you know best, refuse to read parenting books, amd refuse to let your wife in on the process.

Its sad. this thread stopped being about your op 30 posts in and morphed into some sort of strange ego fueled narcissistic rampage.

>>9970594
The OP is clearly focused on how you plan to raise your kids to be your little reading machines. You're the intellectual equivalent of those sad fathers that force their kids into football because they think in their own twisted way that forcing their passions onto their kids is healthy.

I never brought up screen time. I pointed out that you made this post for validation, and couldn't really care less about the books.

>>9970598
Not everyone is a poorfag like you (or me). A lot of upper middle class and upper class individuals make enough in a few months to pay for their kids retirement. People also spend like $30,000/year to be members of elite country clubs. Just because you spend your money differently or don't have the money to afford such luxuries doesn't make it retarded for other put money into to such things.

>>9970805
telling him what he is doing wrong wont work because he is proud of it. almost like telling a rapper rapping is a useless skill.

i thought i could appeal to his lovr for his own children but like mist white parents the wellbeing of their children is secondary to the pridr of the parents.

absolutely sad. no wonder your countries are falling apart.

honestly, as bad as i feel for the kids, this thread has made me favor greater immigration restrictionism for half japanese. i really dont want this guys kids with their shitty attitudes fucking up my country.

if he wont help his own fucking kids then why should I. we dont need more lower class laborers, ehich is ehat his kids are doomed to be.

fucking 90 iq whites coming over here and shitting things up...

>>9970811
all true. but a person with that much money would probably not be as stupid as OP.

It is possible, but increasingly unlikely in direct proportion to the amount of money involved

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>>9970774
Perhaps they can move to Kyoto where they can be welcomed by all their fellow autistic rude shits as that's one of the few directions they're heading by his parenting. Sad!

>>9970779
Stupid boy. Pic related is one of my six built-in shelves. I will never impart my knowledge to you.

>>9970805
>>9970822
>>9970792

These guys have got OP's number.

It *could be* that this guy is already breaking down due to the salary man lifestyle. Even if he is wealthy or upper-level management, he is nothing more than the warden of the prison. Sad!

>>9970858
Your taste is awful.

materialistic hedonism everyone

Hopefully this thread is dead. I just found it and read all the way through in one go. OP is insanely vindictive, and he's also rigidly uncompromising. His kids will grow up hating him for both of those qualities. Chances are they'll avoid him as adults, since he's always going to stay an angry pisser.

He should have just limited his question to the books and instead got a thread full of people challenging how he planned to raise his kids, so I get why he got angry. But I feel like a normal, socially capable adult man would have said, "ok folks, all good points" (even if he didn't really mean it), "thanks for answering my question about the books, have a good night, bye." Instead he threatened people like a sociopathic child. Really ugly to read, again and again. Vitriol towards everyone, almost regardless of what they were saying.

OP, if you're still on the computer (and I'm sure a hypocrite like you is), I'm sure you will see this and get just as angry as you did at literally everyone else here. All I can say is that I pity your children for having an overreacting man like you for a father, who'd rather force them into a schedule that he likes than spend time with them.

>>9970858
Great biography of Jefferson on the right there

>all this envy

>>9970869
We in japan really wish you didnt give people like this jobs or college degrees. They worm their way into our offices and start spreading vindictive bullshit, and eventually knock up some 90 iq ex callgirl and sink their claws into our legal system.

There is a bill on the parliament floor right now involving abject apartheid for half racial kids because of the bullshit people like op are starting.

I really really wish it hadnt come to this. We like good white people, but we never get the good ones, and you have no control over your trash.

Theirvkids will pay the price. I guess its not awful goven that their kids are awful precisely because the parents are awful. But still

>>9970886
The smart ones get off the plane, see the beautiful countryside and gorgeous well-mannered men and women, get depressed by the rat race of Tokyo, and go right back home. True story.

>>9970877
You're not fooling anyone

>>9970900
we use the ratrace to mist viciously oppress the people most likely to cause problems

our culture inherently recognizes that people are venal and gossipy animals. lower level office environments cater dorectly as outlets for these social function, to drain their mental energies equally to the task at hand and into toilets where the rest of their attitude and pride belongs

I think you would find upper level office environments extremely pleasant.

I am sorry you found tokyo distasteful. Try exploring kyushu or hokkaido if you have the time.

>>9970908
There are 37 posters in this thread and 136 replies. My samefag sense is tingling.

>>9970922
I did explore both. I went to Kyushu because I wanted to get land for grapefruit. I am from an area of Florida that exports almost all its citrus to Japan hence the interest.

You make a good case for upper level office environments but without a doubt there's a glass ceiling there for gaijin or so I observed and heard, is this not the case?

>>9970928
the glass ceiling applies in many cases. this is often skirted in certain industries such as those related to advanced physics

90% of the glass ceiling applies directly to shitty attitudes on the part of the worker. japanese finance, for example, is fubdamentally structured differently than the west

there are a lot of bain types who love running theor mouth about restructuring without even learning the basics.

its hardly a glass ceiling in that context. theyre just idiots.

>>9970944
If you have discord or whatever, I'd like to talk more about this.

>>9970951
whats discord

i wouldnt mind voice chatting but.im not going to post any info on 4chinz

a disposable site would be best

Honestly OP, just let them be, lay down some ground rules and support them with whatever they do. You cannot control them during the teenage years, but if you play your cards right, they will emerge out of it and so long as your relationship remains good, they will look to you as a role model. Until the teenage years though, have them read as much as possible, and do whatever you can not to let them touch video games.

>>9970955
https://pastebin.com/W60LGh2j

see link

>>9970965
that platform is not available to me at the moment

something i can access from a phone is best

>>9970511
Underrated post.

>>9970975
Line? Same username just get rid of the underscore so it's all one word.

>>9970415
Start with critics' polls instead of imdb

>be an uggo social reject in the west
>move to japan and take advantage of the fact that some japanese women fetishize white guys
>base the whole relationship on the fact that she's the first one to actually show some interest in you
>most likely can't even communicate beyond basic shit
>get married
>have ugly halfie kids and never realize you're a terrible parent because you're still the same old social reject who was never actually supposed to produce any offspring
>kids end up being bullied and angry for their whole lives
>even if you end up learning the language, you will probably find out that that you don't like your wife anyway
please don't do this
my cousin did this
he killed himself

>>9970290
''Children raised by authoritarian parents tend to be conformist, highly obedient, quiet, and not very happy.[32] These children often suffer from depression and self-blame.[32]''
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parenting_styles)

To give your children the best outcomes in life, you should try to go from an authoritarian style to an authoritative one. It gives the most desired results and it doesn't have to be at the sake of your children's sanity

>hapa kids raised by autistic weeb
holy shit your kids are fucked

>>9970290
Ereaders are the future.

I also want to hang flat screen TVs on the wall and have a virtual fine art gallery

This father is the most meanspirited poster I have seen in a decade of posting on 4chan. You can just tell he's scanning every single reply for something to attack.
A few posts here have given answers regarding the books and your library, but even then you manage to find a scentence or word that will spiral you into seething rage

OP you are a fucking retard and your kids not only will grown to hate you but hate reading because reading will make them remember their stupid and authoritharian father who choose what they should do in their little "spare" time.
OP you idiot. You cant force someone to become a reader, you may show them books, may read them before they sleep and may try make them read by sugestion, but this stupid schedule you are doing is gonna raise another group of unhappy 4chan posters.
Do a favor for yourself, the world and specialy your kids and fucking give them to the orphanage or let them use their spare time the way they want, you imbecile.
Keep this and you will never receive the visits of them when they become older and you become the 4chan retard with 70 yo alone in the elderly house, while you kids cant wait for the death and inheritance they will gain from their good for nothing father.
Be the sounds of this school system, you live in some shithole in Asia, where there is no life for students. Pro-tip that you must know: play close eyes to the suicide rates. You may actualy contribute to it, asshole.

>>9970301
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Tarkovsky

I used to be a reader but I grew up around people who played video games so started doing the same. If you think your kids would rather read old books instead of playing a game, you're delusional.

Also, don't buy any videogame console. When I was 7 I got a ps2 and stopped reading and playing outside.

I would consider introducing them to good music too.

Hey guys. OP here.

So I gave my wife the gist of the thread, and we talked it out, and made some decisions.

We're going to get divorced, and I'm going to take the kids and move back to America. She'll keep the house. I'm going to request a transfer on Monday. The kids will have no set schedule besides school.

I've decided not to build a library.

Thanks for your help.

>>9970333
I know it's normal for children to stay at school late (and even later for cram school) but I think it'd be in your best interest to not force anything on them.

If you want to have an influence on your child while still having them attend school, it'd be best to just leave them around the house instead of forcing them to read/watch/etc. That way they'll have the option to choose when and how to read instead of resenting you for denying them fun/free time.

>>9971778
bad b8

ITT: a bunch of dumbfuck liberals come face to face with what /pol/ has been trying to tell them for years.

Non-whites don't behave like whites. Stop pretending we're the same. Fuck. Let Japs be Japs, and maybe use your fucking brain next time you advocate importing a billion of them or anyone else and ask if you really want that culture over here.

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>>9970465

Chinese people are soulless automata.

>>9972218
Doesn't this thread center around a white guy who's easily adopted Japanese culture? Isn't that an argument that whites and nonwhites can behave however they choose, blending in with the culture where they live if they find that to be desirable?

>>9972287
It centres around the gut revulsion of a mass of whites when confronted with a culture that differs from their own in a pretty minor way, and yet who still unaccountably think cultural diversity is a good thing that they enjoy.

>>9971863

Pete Maravich, still college basketball's all-time leading scorer and Hall of Famer, described his dad as treating basketball like a forbidden fruit but tantalizing him as a kid by leaving basketballs around. Eventually he couldn't keep away from it.

Your kids will naturally gravitate to things you like, but no one likes being pressured into stuff.

How do you fucking crackas justify buying books and wasting fucking nature when you could buy e-reader and save trees

>>9970296
Film is garbage art form.

>>9972310
Is white culture free of workaholics? Or are those who dedicate their lives and their childrens lives to working exceptions to a rule, or traitors of their race?

>>9970611
This

>>9972366
And now we play the "quibble over semantics" game so that you can avoid the central point.

People who screech about diversity being our strength tend to be the first to recoil from foreign cultures.

>>9972379
I'd like to understand your central point, as not to quibble. Was the center of your argument that "Whites are disgusted when confronted with different culture"?

If so, I brought the idea that workaholism can be central to white culture as a response to that point. If both cultures feature that characteristic, then the revulsion in this thread was likely not aimed at a definitively different cultural attribute. There are plenty of workaholics on this board who would advocate for a disciplined lifestyle. Instead, it was largely aimed at OP's attitude toward criticism.

>>9970296
Yeah, get them to watch The Matrix

>>9972418
My central point is that for a board that is one of the more liberal and modernist, /lit/ sure is quick to recoil from the foreign cultures that they defend and champion as having a right to exist inside Western nations. They are literally the Not In My Backyard crowd. They're happy to force their delusions of diversity on others but put their face in it and they will kick and scream like the children that they are.

And they have the balls to mock /pol/, which has a wealth more practical experience with politics, for realising this.

This is expressed in this thread. What OP is describing is typical Asian parenting. This is the diversity /lit/ wants to import. Yet see how they recoil. See how they shrink and squirm, offended at the mere existence of OP the typical Asian parent. They are ethnocentrists par excellence - my way of childrearing is the right way and you must do as I say, fuck your culture. Not even Hitler would be proud because Hitler, though a racialist, wasn't an ethnocentrist.

This "central point" will be impossible for you to argue against not because it's so great and all-defeating but because it is based on a strawman I have constructed. It is a strawman, I acknowledge that. Not all of /lit/ is like this. But it is a strawman that rings true for some.

>If both cultures feature that characteristic
They don't. There are clear observable differences between Western and Asian childrearing styles and your attempts to diminish this come off as quibbling because of that. Even if you argue they are born from the same characteristic the magnitude is different. It's irrelevant. We acknowledge the difference is significant - for the purpose of this discussion, the source of significance is irrelevant.

>>9972448
Ironically, you're carefully ignoring my central point in favor of reiterating your own. Maybe people on this board mock people from /pol/ because you'd rather have a diatribe than a conversation.

>>9972541
>you're carefully ignoring my central point
Your central point relies on conflating Asian childrearing styles with Western work ethic. No conflation is possible because they are not the same. Thus your central point falls flat.

I addressed this in the last "paragraph" of my post.

>it was about OP's reaction to criticism
I'm not going to bother going back and citing all the posts that prove you wrong because it would be a massive waste of my time. You know as well as I do that there is genuine opposition to OP's style of child rearing that comes from (conscious or not) purely ethnocentric assumptions of how children ought to be raised.

That does not mean that's all there is in this thread, but the presence of other things in no way diminishes this aspect.

>>9971235
LOL WATCH AKIRA KUROSAWA TOO XPPP Lmao sooo deeep aritstic poetic filmmmmerino

>>9970415
http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_all1000films_table.php

here you go mate

you won't enjoy them all but they're all "good"

>>9972448
Actually only upperclass Asian families parent like that but you're free to believe what you want to believe

>>9970310
sounds like you're restricting them too much already. kids need to be able to explore on their own and do things on their own time.

>all these shitty non-parents spoiled by their own shitty Boomer parents' neglect and abandonment of them to the point where they think limiting video games to an hour a day is psychopathic child abuse

>>9973355

I don't really think it's that bad of an a bad idea per se it's just that OP sounds like a pompous ass. You know, the kind of guy who buys Barnes and Noble Leatherbound Classics™

>>9972218
way to make me read the whole thread just to see if this was the case
fucking /pol/ shill
it was just some autistic asshole
i was already 99% sure that's all it was when he asked about leatherbound books
there was even a japanese dude (role playing? dunno, i feel it's a character i could have come up with) also shitting on him
get the fuck out of here

OP, I believe it would bring better results to make them develop a thirst for knowledge rather than reading directly. Force feeding them literature might have unwanted consequences, such as them not actually enjoying it and reading it out of necessity or by constraint rather than by their own will.

Young, my mother introduced me a bit to literature and books. That was all. As a kid and a teenager I mostly played video games and read books, but not classics. As I grew older I shifted from video games to books, and from YA and cheap fantasy to classics. Many things put me on this path, some school activities and this website also. I wonder if I would have became the same had my mother been more aggressive with her teachings...

Another thing. Not everyone can be well read. Hypothetically, I suppose many could, but in reality, very few will be and regardless of the will of the parents. Maybe your kids will not be that kind that will be able to become well read. It might be an error then to force the issue.

Bit of a blog post, but I think your intent is noble. Good luck anyhow.

>>9972218
Why dont you go kys instead of trying to hi-jack the thread for your propagandistic shit? /pol/tard

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>>9970422
>getting out of a literature board because he hasn't been watching quality films yet

>>9970290
>not pirating every book you read and transferring to your ereader

>>9970530
Seems reasonable to me. Don't listen to these triggered ameritards who think not letting a kid stare at a screen 8 hours a day is child abuse. Make sure you read comfy stuff like Narnia to them before bedtime.

>>9970290
Call me a faggot, but I honestly hate how some parents or soon-to-be-parents project what they want onto their children. Let your kids enjoy whatever they want to enjoy (respinsibly, obviously) and let them approach literature organically. Buy a library for yourself, you faggot, not for your kids.

The only thing a parent should force unto a kid is discipline, values, and ethics. Not their own hobbies.

>>9974720
If people around here have the chance to feel superior to someone else, no matter how trivial it is, they'll take it.

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>>9970537

>Its sad the other 4chunz neets have a better grasp over this than you do.

This.

I love the irony of OP being a person who wastes time lurking 4chan as he details his plans to anon for raising his kids like an overbearing tiger mom.

"Good luck, bro."

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>>9970290

OP, having read through this train wreck of a thread, and seen all the shit you have both been subjected to and have spewed in equal measure, please do yourself a favour and watch pic related. I hope it will answer some things for you my man

>>9970290
From mine and others' experiences: parents who actively try to make their children do 'intellectual' activities and restrict them achieve one of two things. Either they succeed, and their children are seen as the weird kids, spend far too much time at home, and are socially isolated. Or they resent their parents and, later on in life, act up for it.

By the way, I had very carefree parents. I played hours and hours of video games and spent just as much time watching trashy films. I spent most of my time with FRIENDS doing these things, and much time playing outside too, not isolated in some study being forced to read books and not being allowed a television. My childhood was all fun and games. And I'm now a big reader and am off to study at Cambridge Uni in a month's time.

Please, please, please don't let your kids grow up to hate you.

Hey OP, how's that 6 Vol. Memoir going?