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Notes from the Underground 2017-08-28 08:16:02 Post No. 9949878
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I have been made to understand Dostoevsky wrote this as something of a satire. I find this impossible to comprehend.
The character of the underground man is too resonant, too true, to be simple parody. How could anyone write such a character without intimately knowing his madness? Dostoevsky captures so much of my very soul in this work, feelings and sentiments I deemed near ineffable before, are you telling he meant it as a joke?
> I will explain; the enjoyment was just from the too intense consciousness of one's own degradation; it was from feeling oneself that one had reached the last barrier, that it was horrible, but that it could not be otherwise; that there was no escape for you; that you never could become a different man; that even if time and faith were still left you to change into something different you would most likely not wish to change; or if you did wish to, even then you would do nothing; because perhaps in reality there was nothing for you to change into.
;_;
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He was a prophet and extrapolator. He foresaw Lenin in his novel demons (same facial hair, hand motions, manner of speech and of course communism).
He also foresaw autists like you.
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The underground man prob was an aspect of dostoevsky. We all contain multitudes. He just accessed that part and exaggerated it. Dost in general was not a stable guy.
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>>9949878
It's perfectly possible for someone to make a satire of themselves. There is such a thing as self-awareness.
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>>9949974
What would it be a satire of?
He showed what kind of person was inevitable if western materialism/rationalism/utilitarianism were to dominate. And he was right.
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>>9949974
Probably not really. Define satirical.
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>>9949974
I should add that the saved whore was and still is a cliche and he was satirizing that.
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>>9949878
Dostoevsky was exactly that kind of man in his youth as a radical.
The character is so resonant, true, etc, because Dostoevsky understands that kind of person thoroughly and personally.
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>>9950020
>Define satirical.
In that he was mocking the character or that he is a mockery, that the underground man is meant to be absurd, not empathized with.
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>>9950834
>not empathized with
Then yeah. I don't think it's a satire.
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>>9949974
>is it true that it's satirical?
>it's commonly accepted here on /lit/
wrong and wrong
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>>9950834
He's a relatable mockery. That's why he's such a great character.
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>>9949878
Dostojevsky presents you a few of the darkest thoughts a human can have and he wants you to solve them in the right way. Those who think it's satire do it wrong.
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>>9949878
dostoevsky was an autist, he just captures it too well for me to believe he wasn't. I read white nights recently and his portrayal is just too intimate, too personal. it's as they say, every story is a partial autobiography of the author.
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Is it a good start to Dosto' works?
It'd be my first book from him.
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>>9952460
Dosto is literally insane. That's common knowledge.
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>>9952588
Yes this or crime and punishment. This one is considerably shorter though.
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this thread is 100% reddit
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>>9954215
good post
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https://www.reddit.com/r/thelastpsychiatrist/comments/5wq4u3/missing_post/dec58lc/?st=j6yj3kjb&sh=993975b7
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>>9955641
What is this, who is alone
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