What is Art? What is Literature?
What is the fundamental difference between this and the Iliad that makes one a work of art and literature and the other simply a book?
bampo
Art is capable of providing a visceral emotional reaction
That book probably isn't
>>9934550
Is an erection a visceral reaction
>>9934558
Yes but it's not an emotional one
>What is Art?
A thing man-made, material and which seeks to overcome the material.
>What is Literature?
Art whose primary tool are words.
>What is the fundamental difference between this and the Iliad that makes one a work of art and literature and the other simply a book?
Why do you assume that Frozen isn't art?
>>9934550
The last Harry Potter book caused many visceral emotional reactions, great excitement and made many people cry when a character they like died. Would you say that Harry Potter is art?
>>9934576
>Would you say that Harry Potter is art?
Of course, just like Frozen is. It is just not suited for everyone, like most art.
>>9934596
But why is that books such as Ulysses are more widely valued as of high cultural merit while books such as the one in OP's pic aren't?
>>9934798
is this bait?
>>9934798
Because Ulysses translates reality slightly more than something that relies on cliches and condescending to kids like that Frozen book.
Ulysses isn't really that good at it though.
>>9935342
So art is about translating reality? Why don't we just make videos of everything, then?
>>9934158
A Frozen storybook is inevitably just going to be a cheap cash-in.
As a film, Frozen was a postmodernist deconstruction of the Disney Princess (tm) concept and the best Disney film since Mulan.
>>9935404
>videos translate reality
read a book, kid
>>9934798
Frozen has another target group than Ulysses, and since you probably identify more with /lit/ professors than little girls you value the latter higher. Go to any kindergarten and ask what book they would rather be read.
Why is that?
First, /lit/erary types have the relevant context to even consume certain works - it is like being able to read, just on a higher level. If you can't read any book will bore you, if you are blind porn will etc.
[s]Secondly, I think with "harder" works there is also the factor of signalling how smart and sophisticated (= ingroup) you are - like the college jock who brags how he likes to drink a whole alcohol just for his enjoyment. [/s] Actually this seems to be a common misconception from outsiders who cannot emphasize - I myself like to talk sincerely about how stoned I got / how hard I tripped / what technologies I find fascinating. This feels not like bragging with "ingroupness" but just with the pure enjoyment I got from it. Although I might be lying to myself here... [/blog]
>>9934558
i snorted
art is fart lol
>>9934158
The Iliad attempts to reach the sublime and says something insightful about the human condition.