Is this guy a pseudo intellectual? Also, has anyone tried the

>>9918220
While on the topic of this guy, has anyone read Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief?

I read the paper on the future authoring program. I think probably the biggest thing is that it includes goal setting. I don't think there's any published research on the other two programs.

>>9918305
I feel like there is a bit of placebo effect going on here in his program.

He's a great clinical psychologist but everything he speaks on is a bit meh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZV8Juna40&t=

>>9918326
I dont think hes stupid but honestly some of the things he says can come off as pseudo intellectual.

>>9918220

No he's an intellectual.
Words have meanings besides "thing i like" and "thing i not like"

>>9918220
he's 1 level above a self-help guru.
his knowledge on psychology is a joke at best because his main influence is Jung who was a crazy who believed in shit appearing out of thin air and a literal God.
people mainly defend his common sense advice like cleaning your room and looking at people when you talk to them which of course isn't a bad idea but to equate the value of such basic advice that every non-autistic is already doing to his crazy dragon LARPing bullshit is stupid.
it's not really surprising that his fanatics are generally weak people who have subscribed to contrarianism as a defence mechanism for not being able to figure anything out on their own and are thus the perfect target for this dragon oil salesman.

>>9918572
This.
He's also a figure being exploited by the new "right wing talk radio" base on YouTube, and I've only ever heard him being interviewed by people who already agree with him beforehand (except the Sam Harris podcast).

Many of his "scientific facts" are apparently not very well supported either, but he just spouts it out like it's some sort gospel.

His entire argument is a very long circumlocutory form of "post-modernism sucks therefore we need religion".

WHY THE FUCK DO WE NEED A THREAD ABOUT THAT FAGGOT EVERY FUCKING DAY?

>>9918572
Dismissing someone as "crazy" is one of the most ridiculous criticisms you could ever level at someone. You wouldn't be posting on this board if it weren't for anchoritesque autistic programmers, loners and schizophrenics.

Why does every Jordanson picture look straight out of Max Payne?

>>9918643
>>9918572
>>9918490
ITT Actual freshman pseudo-intellectuals call someone obviously superior to them a pseudo

Dunning Kruger/Undergraduate Syndrome is strong on /lit/

>>9918572

>his knowledge on psychology is a joke at best

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>>9918662

Because he makes more money in a month than most of us do in a year doing something he genuinely loves.

>>9918689
Dave Rubin plz go

>>9918671
not if you say why.
>>9918689
>obviously superior
to a weak minded submissive like you maybe

>anchoritesque
>Dunning Kruger Syndrome
funny how his defenders always feel the need to slip in obscure words/terms incorrectly as if they're making any point other than showing how much of a virgin nerd they are.

>>9918692
it is

>>9918789

>anchorite is an obscure word
>dunning kruger is an obscure term

ok so you're just retarded

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>>9918789
>to a weak minded submissive like you maybe

>>9918789
>words/terms incorrectly
*irrelevantly

>>9918791
they are though, you're just an overcompensating nerd.
>>9918793
you are though

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>>9918789
Not really. I don't know much about Peterson and have never read his book, but I do know he is a real intellectual with tons of published research, a lot of real world practice, a professor at a good university.

You called me submissive though, ironic because you're the one submitting to contrarian pressures (plus I'd guess a desire to reassure yourself that you're better than a successful public intellectual [unlikely]) on /lit/. Which is obviously what all these assblasted i/lit/terate threads come from.

>>9918220
>Is this guy a pseudo intellectual?
Yes, mostly. Dismiss him when he talks about philosophy, history and literature. If you think you agree with him, just read actual conservative intellectuals and his sources (Jung, Nietzsche, Dostoevsky... you know the drill).

>Also, has anyone tried the self authoring suite?
Mods should ban everyone who answers "Yes" to this question

>>9918572
>"his knowledge on psychology is a joke at best"
>pHD
>professor at Harvard and Toronto
>hundreds of published papers
>decades of psychiatric work
>joke at best
>"Jung who was a crazy"
>knowingly understates the person's beliefs
Yeah, I think I've found the run of the mill /lit/ pseudo intellectual.

>>9918841
> I don't know much about Peterson and have never read his book
>but I do know he is a real intellectual
This is the level of the average peterson defender.

>ironic because you're the one submitting to contrarian pressures
Not really, being religious is now more edgy than being non-religious.

Also, you are submissive because you're dogmatically defending something you claim to not even know much about which is pathetic as fuck.

>>9918922
Anyone who was a professor at Harvard and Toronto, has a PhD, has conducted research, written books and accomplished a lot in the academy is an intellectual. You retarded contrarian undergrad baby fuck.

>>9918789
>>9918806
you're cute

>>9918907
It's funny how he constantly talks about how academia is horrible and all his little bitches can do to defend him is talk about his academic credentials.

>>9918929
see >>9918929

>>9918933
you're stupid
>>9918929
i meant >>9918936

>>9918940
>you're stupid
Says the guy who defaults to "you're overcompensating" when he hears words he doesn't understand.

Do the thread a favour and leave it.

>>9918936
Not an ________

>>9918949
lmao you can't fight your own battles you have to get involved in another? can't say it's surprising that you're petersons bitch.
and you are overcompensating, you're just an autistic not self-aware enough to realize how much he's giving away.

>>9918952
and "BUT HE HAS A PHD" is an argument? you're fucking stupid.

>>9918936
gross misunderstanding of his views of academia

>>9918954
Ok like I said, very cute. But honestly, do the thread a favour and leave it.

>>9918967
explain then or fuck off.
>>9918970
you should leave it lest you have your autistic brain explode from not being able to argue without parroting your favorite youtubers talking points.

>>9918220
>Is this guy a pseudo intellectual?
he doesn't even call himself an intellectual

>I feel like its probably a scam, has anyone tried it?
I got it for free, but I haven't tried it yet
it seemed I could get my life back on track by just watching his lectures

I'm really exceptional at daydreaming though I think, so I managed to imagine a hell for myself that way

>>9918977
I don't even particularly like the man and I haven't offered any opinion of him, it's just painfully obvious that you are a clown with a chip on his shoulder.

Anyway i'm leaving the thread now, I really really recommend you do the same because you're wasting everyone's time including your own.

>Insult my beloved Peterson
>Hurr durr Dunning-Kruger
You guys realize intellectuals can be retards too right?

>>9918985
It's obvious you have an opinion on him, you're just too much of a pussy to actually state it.

>>9918986
it's more like
>insult
>get called out
>nothing to back it up with
and that's where the conversation ends

He's a psychologist, not a philosopher. Agreed they're hard to distinguish, but let's put it like this:
outside of the realm of the function of the human brain, he doesn't contribute much, but within he does.

>>9918228
I've read half of it, it's informatively good, but it's pretty much a psychological paper spanning 400+ pages, there's not much hand holding.

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>>9918572

>>9919019
not surprising that his culties are autistic weaboos

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>>9918220
No, not really, but he's a clinical psychologist, not a trained philosopher, so when he reads, let's say, Derrida, he doesn't do it to understand him but to understand how some of his ideas have influenced certain ideologies that he, as a psychologist, considers unhealthy, and because of that he can be very, very lazy with his terminology and his criticism of postmodernism as a whole is blunt and lacks nuance, but criticize him for it, while valid, it's a bit beyond the point. If you take him for what he's, he's all right, even great, not a genius though.

>>9919079
His lazy terminology is pretty unfortunate in my opinion, as what he addresses is a legitimate concern. But because of his lackluster philosophical terminology he's so incredibly easy to straw-man.

On the other hand, if he had accurate terminology most people wouldn't understand him.

Can't believe how far this thread has gone, thanks /lit/

>>9918345
He's a bit folksy, but he is very well read and makes good points. I only know about the Maps of Meaning stuff tho

>>9918954
All self-help stuff is a bit silly, he's much more interesting on myths and so on

>>9918707
What an awful argument. So does Dr Phil, should we have daily threads about him too?

>>9918977
>explain then or fuck off.
he only has a problem with parts of the academia (for example social studies or the parts of psychology that had the "whoops, it turns out most of our studies are not replicable" problem)

>>9919001
>outside of the realm of the function of the human brain, he doesn't contribute much, but within he does
that's pretty common with the pop-sci celebrities
>A: Dawnkins's philosophical claims are laughable
>B: HOW CAN U SAY THAT U PIECE OF SHIT DAWKINS IS AN ACCOMPLISHED BIOLOGIST AND HE INVENTED MEMES SO SHUT UP AND GO READ A BOOK DUDE
same with Harris and other shits

>>9919240
self-help stuff is always silly, but it works. even if it's a random canadian psychologist rambling on youtube

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>>9919288
>self-help stuff is always silly, but it works

Prove it. Most Jordan Peterson fans are still obese "alt-right" neckbeards with zero valuable skills so it doesn't seem to be working.

I found the self authoring suite for free on a /fit/ thread yesterday.

Keepin the /fit-lit/ alliance alive!

Here's the stuff for free.

Past Authoring: https://pastebin.com/fmeZHZUM
Present Authoring (virtues): https://pastebin.com/qJkjDNFk
Present Authoring (faults): https://pastebin.com/85Lwz46G
Future Authoring: https://pastebin.com/J45xybPT

there's different scopes to look at him:

>as a philosopher
he does good exegesis of nietzsche, jung, and it's interesting how he relates it to myths and the concept of God. but his knowledge of socialism is laughable at best since he literally can't talk about socialism without mentioning solzhenitsyn and the USSR. i feel like his political philosophy is very conflationary.

>as a psychologist
a psychologist is meant empower you. so his being a dragon oil salesman isn't so retarded. when you consider that basically all psychotherapies are equally efficient, a road to recovery that valuates individual responsibility is pretty admirable, imo.

>as a social commentator
this is his claim to fame. basically, all he did was point out the same retardation that 1000s of other people have pointed out. but because of his station, this thrust him into the limelight. that's why you see him on all those retarded far-right talk shows who call him a friend when his views are a dozen times more nuanced and even in opposition to what he thinks (look at the Gavin McInnes interview where Gavin talks shit about people studying psychology in university to a fucking psychology professor. laughable).

he also does this retarded antagonism thing, making post-modernism to be a poison-pill that's killing society from the top-down and from the inside-out. i'm not to familiar with post-modernism, but i highly doubt things are so black & white and that he's not just doing it to give himself a brand.

>>9919317
i find his whole shpiel to be pretty self-empowering. shoot me.

>>9919317
>projecting this hard

>>9919324
>i'm not to familiar with post-modernism
Mate, post-modernism denies logic as a cardinal tool for discourse, arguing that since all human experience is subjective logic shouldn't be treated as sacrosanct. I'm not sure how an ideology can be more dysfunctional. plenty ways to be more fucked up, sure, but "my feelings are more important than your facts" is by far the most retarded core for ideology out there. I mean every other ideology/religion is ridiculed for employment of such constructs to promote questionable opinions, meanwhile postmodernism employs it as foundation of thought.

>>9919317
>Most Jordan Peterson fans are still obese "alt-right" neckbeards with zero valuable skills so it doesn't seem to be working.
prove it. I'm the only Jordan Peterson """fan""" I know personally and I'm none of those things.
also I don't think that the alt-righters particularly care about his self-help message. they just want to use him as ammunition in their political battles as ideologues usually do. why listen to self help talks that want you to assume some responsibilty for your life when you can simply blame all your failures on "them"?

>>9919318
that's great, thanks!

>>9919324
>he also does this retarded antagonism thing, making post-modernism to be a poison-pill that's killing society from the top-down and from the inside-out.
The whole social-construct, minorities are culturally oppressed, and that discussion is a thing to avoid since it empowers those already in power was born out of post-modernism so I would say that it's a truth with modification. The poison was created by post-modernism, but all of post-modernism isn't poison. Peterson is sort of a post-modernist himself, with the whole "Christianity can be considered truth from a certain point of view" thing.

>>9919392
>whole "Christianity can be considered truth from a certain point of view" thing.
As I understand his point is that there is more to an organised religion than just faith. I'll try to explain as I see it but following is my opinion, influenced by his talks on subject and personal experience, so don't treat it as a quote. Religion is Faith+Tradition+Morality, they are of course intertwined and lines between them are blurry at best but he argues that if one calls himself an atheist, i.e. lacking faith, but was raised in christian family he would still likely be following christian tradition, e.g. monogamy, monotheistic worldview (god is or is not, rather then there might be many gods), etc, and would still be following moral code roughly similar to that of your average christian, e.g. suicide is fundamentally wrong, adultery is bad, etc.

>>9919392
It doesn't really stem from postmodernism. It finally got Beauvoir to cave when she was really old and call herself a feminist, but everyone else was dead or already illegible by that point too.

From an American standpoint, it's much better to look at it as the failure of those movements to take hold. That's why you have things in America take the course they do with Vietnam vets coming up with the idea of PTSD as a syndrome which affects soldiers when your government lies to you about the war you're fighting in; France had that as a current issue much earlier, and it causes splits in the Marxist postmodernists and other postmodernists, but in America, that concept is new. Feminist movements there were quick to adopt it for their burgeoning believe the children and the women movements, but at the same time they were finding it impossible for the French postmodernists to talk to them; Beauvoir et al at the time were looking to eliminate the age of consent, so trying it back to their movement doesn't fit into the timeline of events leading up to the complete hijacking of things like mental illness and "trigger" warnings.
Americans really should follow their own history, they keep wind up chasing ghosts in places they already caused a massacre and wondering why they feel so spooked.

>>9919418
Not only, faith is part of it. His views on faith are really complicated, it's pretty much the bulk of his psychology.

I could try to simplify it as this: in his view, you're either apathetic or religious. If you're not apathetic and adhere to Christian values, you're Christian. He believes that fanatic political ideology is a form of faith which is less desirable then Christianity, which is why he wants to bring up a reincarnation of Christianity.

>>9919233

the collective iq of this board has to be less than 80

>>9919432
It stems from post-modernism in the sense that post-moderinism is a collective term for all those schools.
I agree that Petersons use of the word is probably in the end self defeating, I much prefer cultural-marxism, but using that term pretty much labels you a nazi.

>>9919249
Can do.

>>9919392
>"Christianity can be considered truth from a certain point of view" thing.

This isn't quite accurate.
He says that Christianity can be interpreted metaphorically but that it doesn't exhaust itself in the metaphor.
Essentially he thinks that it is not only true metaphorically but true in other ways as well.
It isn't the same subjective argument, if anything it's hyper-objective because he's saying that it is true on multiple levels embedded within one another.
He is not even willing to deny the literal interpretation because he says he isn't sure what would happen if a person were perfectly aligned with the logos.

>>9919463
Peterson's trying to meme it into meaning that, but no.

It's also too big and removed a movement to really lob them together. I prefer the term SJW or landwhale, desu, because I know the cultural Marxism narrative doesn't hold up and it's kind of boring as a narrative anyway.

Peterson wouldn't be caught dead saying any of those terms, though he damn well knows them, that's why he's trying to meme it as "postmodernism". Calling it postmodernism is kind of an insult to the child molesters who spread it best, because it isn't like any of those landwhales could read Derrida or Marx. They think Harry Potter is not just high literature but a cutting social commentary. No fucking way they read postmodernism or even Marxism.

At least the fucking hippy leftists read that babble.

>>9919463
I think you misunderstand his point. He argues against post modernism instead of arguing against cultural marxism, because, according to him, cultural marxism is just filling for ideological vacuum left in the minds of adherents by post modernism. See postmodernism fundamentally offers no solutions to questions it poses and as nature abhors vacuum it get's filled by an ideology convent for acquisition of power and appealing to their compassionate audience. As economic marxism has been largely debunked, even in socialist/communist circles, cultural marxism is the next best thing.

If you accept that than by convincing someone to abandon post modernism it is likely that they would then abandon the ideology that filled the vacuum left by post modernist thinking. Granted I think it's just as likely that the ideology would instead subsume post modernism as dominant one, but that's just me.

>>9919475
I'm kind of sad that if he ends up having another discussion with Harris, the plebs have pretty much made it so they will avoid another 3 hour discussion on the definition of truth.

I think there is much more value in that then whatever else they would discuss.

>>9919481
sorry
>>9919463
*post-modernism is a collective term for all those schools among others

>>9918220
He's a professor. He never claimed to be a philosopher to my knowledge. As a professor of psychoanalytical psychology he seems completely qualified. He also seems to have a pretty elementary yet decent grasp on the people he speaks about, which is fine given that he's just a professor.

Don't give the guy more credit than he's asking for and you won't ask such stupid questions anymore.

What do yall think goes through Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's mind when he's standing on stage and hes standing there listening to a ideological pseud incoherently ramble like this as the whole crowd cringes?
Wondering if he left the lights on in his office? Thinking about if he should do laundry before he goes to bed or do it in the morning? How does he withstand this level of cringe without flinching?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti1Tob5Ceh8

>>9918933
No she's not. She's a screeching purple haired imbecile. Good work getting her mad though.

Why do people on /lit/ care so much about this man? He's not even great, he don't have any original ideas. Even Mary Beard is more interesting than him.

>>9919288
>same with Harris and other shits

But it's not the same with Harris because he has no actual 'home' field. There's nothing that he's actually a notable expert on where anyone in that field actually cares about him beyond his self-made celebrity status.

>>9920865

Isn't Harris a neurosurgeon?

Peterson just offered some good advice for people like me.

I.E. under achievers.

Is he god? No. Is he a meme intellectual? Probably. Is he even the best meme intellectual? No, that title goes to Slavoj "The Cocaine King" Zizek.

Crossboarders from /leftypol/ that raid this place. Easiest way to deal with them is to respond to their criticisms by asking for them to explain their position. Use pointed questions, they'll collapse pretty easily. They are too stupid to actually defend their positions and use a bunch of empty statements and non arguments.. Here are some examples:

>He is intellectually dishonest everytime he talks about philosophy, literature and history
This guy doesn't actually go on to explain how it is he is intellectually dishonest. He doesn't provide examples either.
>His insights are pathetic for anyone with an undergrad education
Doesn't explain what he means by "pathetic" or offer reasoning as to why it is "pathetic" this is a classic non argument.
>He is another Harris, a pseudo-intellectual who has concocted a series of statements that pander to a certain audience, and he won't EVER justify them.
The "pseudo-intellectual" leftypol tell. Not an argument, and literally not even true considering he's a published academic at the UoT which is ranked number 2 in the world at his own program. Accuses him of pandering but doesn't specify which statements are pandering, and who they are pandering to, or why those statements are factually incorrect.
>So you think that people complaining about his anti-pomo nonsense are a new thing? These critics have been there since day 1, and since day 1 he has not even once proved his competence and knowledge.
Claims he hasn't proved his competence, of course this is an unfalsifiable claim. To him proving his competence can mean basically anything, even just outright advocating Marxism.
>talk about your theories as if you are summarizing them, and never EVER work them out concretely, and never EVER debate with actual academics that may disagree with you. This is also why you see them only debating with youtube talking heads and random protesters/youtube users
Here he makes another baseless claim, coupled with a claim that is actually falsifiable, you can actually try to argue against this. You can example point out the times that Peterson has challenged leftist academics to debates and received no response, and post the videos where he has debated other academics.

All in all a post with a bunch of words, but no real content, just a bunch of non arguments and baseless claims. Also, did you notice how the guy posting this seems to actually accuse Peterson of a lot of the things he does himself? Remember, leftists ALWAYS project.

>>9920985
this is pasta

>>9920947
>Isn't Harris a neurosurgeon?

That's what he wants you to think. Seriously, look up what he actually did for his PhD in neuroscience. It's essentially just an excuse to say that his books are backed up by research, when all he has is the flimsiest thread of argument, the substance of which some random high schooler might as well have come up with while smoking pot.

>>9919375
>he thinks that the postmodernists are the one who have shown to humanity that logic was nothing more than a trick, and had no meaning in itself

Nope, the Viennese Circle managed to discredit their own works. You have to be a complete retard to still believe that logic can be the foundation of discourse, given the fact that among its own conclusions there is the complete disqualification of the system itself.
Regardless, I'm sure that you are actually not trained in formal logic. You probably equate it with common sense.

The self-authoring program I have done and it's literally just a series of essay questions you're asked to do.

You could probably get the same results by basically writing down ideas about what you want to do in the future... 1 week... 1 month... 1 year from now etc. etc. Also how you will measure your progress and such. If you already plan your future out a lot, it probably will have no effect. If you never make plans for you future, it provides you with a pretty easy starting point for writing down some ideas about what you want to do, and the price is right for what it is.

The past/present authoring suites have no scientific evidence of being effective.

I agree you should see Peterson for what he is, a clinical psychologist primarily, with some side interests in philosophy, religion, mythology, fiction, modern politics, authoritarian regimes, and some other odds and ends.

The closer what he is talking about to psychology, the more pseud he is. The further away what he's talking about from psychology, the more pseud he is. People make the mistake of taking him seriously as a philosopher especially, when the man isn't nearly as good as a philosopher as the philosophers he recommends people read about like neetzsche.

He's also a generally positive influence on young men because he tells them not to join protests like the Unite the Right shit and instead to clean their room, get a girlfriend, and get a job.

>>9921556
the only people that take him seriously as a philosopher are those who have never read any philosophy, so they technically don't because "taking someone seriously as a philosopher" is not a thing they can do really

>professor with a shit-ton of publications who taught at fucking harvard is a pseud and doesn't even know his field, says the undergraduate "intellectual" on an origami board
hmm

>>9918220
yes

>>9918220
All his fans are.

>>9918326
1. IQ doesn't mean shit
2. He is a douche

>>9918326
top comment: "is that higher than my score of 58?"
what a retarded fucking audience this guys has. probably because he too is a sham.

>>9923047

And his papers have over 5000 citations.

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>>9924446
Did you really take that comment seriously?

>>9924479
not >>9924446
but serious or not that comment is retarded like you

>>9924490

Why?

>>9924492
because its not funny nor true its just retarded

>>9924501
>bawww it wasnt funny

God what a faggot.

>>9918313
But placebo effects are welcome, especially in psychology.

>>9918220
He is not the limit of intellect, but his analysis on perception is well founded. As a fellow believer in Logos I find many of his conclusions in alignment with what I know I should be doing - rather than what I wish was the case.

He makes the case of self-improvement so clear that I could destroy any reason aside from my own desire to sin, for sin. This is because I am largely in love with my own reason. It's a destructive relationship, and I've grown a lot in the last two years due to civilizing myself and getting help. Right now I am feeling energetic (but tired) for the first time in eight years. If life is like this to others all the time, I can not deny the blessings of God.

Is there anything like the self-authoring suite that isn't the self-authoring suite? Free, of course.

>>9918220
No, just a really butthurt and unstable ball of platitudes. He's going the way of Chomsky, only sideways. And without the quality early work. Or rep. I mean he went on a really butthurt rant on a children's cartoon about a talking snowman and a bumbling reindeer.

>>9919596
>individualism ho!
>self-improvement and personal achievements are the way
How can anybody think that is not right-wing? That's like the pillars of the right-wing.

>>9925178
All the while supporting autocrats. That's schizoid muh man.

>>9925185
>All the while supporting autocrats.
Does he?

>>9925178
individualism would most commonly be associated with a liberal point of view although you can have both individualist left and individualist right.

>>9925189
That's the thing; for all of his flaws, he's far too smart and learned to descend into the hypocritical latrine of alt-right ''''philosophy'''. As others in this thread have said, you can't embrace his message of self-determination if you're worshipping dictators and blaming Jamal along the way.

>>9925212
Individualist left doesn't reject group/political modes of action like he violently does in this video.

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>>9918220

>>9924992

What a retarded question.

>>9925238
kek, true

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>>9918220
I'm not gonna say he's an 'intellectual', because I don't like that word as a noun, but he's an intelligent man.
His public dialogue is just boring as hell. Constrictive / vapid conception on means inherent of self-improvement.
A bell curve of his audience is functionally retarded, so as people have pointed out, he can allude to myopic external coordinates in determining theses without doing any intellectual heavy lifting, completely shed of accountability in this regard.
Also, he has a really vague understanding of the breadth of post-modernism concurrent with the ideological decay of our society; should've read more Baudrillard.
At least he's sincere.
He's making, what? $60k a month doing lectures or something? Good for him.

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>>9924437
>IQ doesn't mean shit
actually, it's highly correlated with academic and carreer achievement and other shit like reaction time

>>9926059
with normative achievement sure. past 120 it shows no correlation and the determining factors are generally socioeconomic. if you want to predict how normie you'll be though, yeah, it's great for mediocrity.

Funny how none of the "jp knows nothing about pomo" whiners have anything to say about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyzSrtr6oJE

>>9918220
I think the people who typically bash on Peterson don't understand that they're not his target audience.

He's not trying to get people who are into literature and philosophy MORE into those intellectual pursuits. He's taking the role of a popular intellectual, which intelligentsia and their pretensions always like to jump on to assert their superiority. Sure, maybe his videos are self-help tier, but it's a hell of a lot better than his contemporaries.

Look, I'd rather his viewership watch Jordan and Stefan rather than shitposting on /v/. We should at least appreciate that.

>>9927440
I'd rather people shitpost on /v/ than join another cult of personality

>>9918572
>Dragonlarping
kek

>>9918220
I like the guy but... I think its pretty weird the sheer number of "stock like photos" with him people found on the internet to use as thumbnail for videos... maybe he has a big ego? i dont know...

>>9927440
don't lump peterson with stefan, jesus

>>9918220
>Is this guy a pseudo intellectual?
Probably. And here's my not argument:

Call me a brainlet if you want, but I hate people like Peterson because they take simple matters and try to make them sound complicated by using ridiculous words and quotes. I remember watching a video of his where he went on about some youtube video drama (I think it was h3h3 and hugh mungus) and after the video he started quoting the Gulag Archipelago. It's unnecessary and just straight up pseudointelectual.

>>9918345
>can come off as pseudo intellectual.

He seems to spend a lot of time conflating Marxism with Post-Modernism.

Pseu-pseu-pseudio.

Instead of using "pseudo intellectual" as an insult, why not just say "I'm wrong, I'm sorry and I give up"? It would be a more mature approach.

>>9919318
thanks

>>9918841
Is it supposed be a joke that know-nothing is spelled as "no nothing"?

>>9920947
>people actually believe Harris is a neurosurgeon
what the fuck

>>9928433
it's gonna be great when one of his fans has a stroke

>>9928033
Every 'tellectual on the verge of a massive breakdown will conflate Marxism with everything they don't like. His Frozen rant is the beginning of a real terrible downward spiral.

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>>9919288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB97Qe2D4V0

>>9918220
I wonder if dumb shitposters like you even know what words like Pseudo and Intellectual even mean.

June 1
>both my kids just got engaged in the last month
https://youtu.be/OJtD1esmgxA?t=303

August 6
>I'm a grandfather. Everyone is fine. Smooth as silk. Good work daughter.
facepoo/drjordanpeterson/posts/1496394920424638

really makes you think

>>9926063
no, not only normative achievement. it's also heavily correlated with the openness trait which is basically creativity
>past 120 it shows no correlation
might be true, but still it's undeniable that a person with 120 iq has a much much better outlook academic-wise and career-wise than a person with 80 iq.
whatever. we're on 4chan so by "IQ doesn't mean shit" you probably meant "IQ is not everything" which is true obviously

>>9927969
that's a good method for encouraging lazy, nihilistic, youtube-dwelling shits to get their lives together though
>I'm an authority figure and <insert muh logos, dragonslaying, jung, christianity lmao> so you better clean your room you weak fuck

>>9924446
you're pathetic

>>9918220
What's Peterson's best lecture that isn't part of a series? I've already read his book.

>>9927969
You were on the right track but then "try to make them sound complicated by using ridiculous words and quotes" happened.

Lol brainlet.

>Is this guy a pseudo intellectual?

yes.

he's probably going to start some kind of pyramid scheme/cult soon too.


you dumb fucks

>>9918228
I tried. His writing is so poor that I nearly had an aneurysm reading it.

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People follow guys like Peterson because they're too scared to approach the real thing.

>>9919317

your lorica segmentata is a lil askew my pal

>>9929138
They are begging to become part of a cult. One with some pretension of intellect too, otherwise they'd just follow Molyneux or some other creepy youtube fuck.

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do you agree with him?
(emphasis mine)

>>9928756
>daughter gets fucked by some rando and shacks up with him six months into pregnancy to avoid shame
ayy