Can bad people be great artists? pic not related because he's

>>9873583
Bad people can create things which titillate the reader's sensibilities, make them feel "aesthetic appreciation" and "overwhelming emotions", can create apparently beautiful things, but bad people can't make art that will truly change a person's entire way of living and thinking like truly spiritual art does.

>>9873583
Of course. You can be a degenerate piece of shit and have truly great innate talent. some douche once argued with me that oscar wilde should be out of the canon because he was a child molester. Lulz. The art and the artist are separate, something that was once understood and is now forgotten in the era of "this book is by a black trans female so read it" ... who gives a fuck who wrote it? There might even be a black trans female who writes great things ... though the odds are probably stacked against them by societal expectations that they will write about topical issues and trends that have no stock in eternity, only highlighting the mental preoccupations of the moment, not of all time.

>>9873839
yeah but boypussy is actually patrician so bad example

>>9873583
I don't see why not.

Plenty of influential painters were massive cunts in their personal life.

>>9873929
you can be a cunt but still be a good person. Beethoven was a cunt but also a really good dude deep down

>>9873583
of course. it's usually only impressive on an intellectual/technical level though.

>>9873583
Is Billy Gass all that bad of a person? He seems amiable.

Depends what you mean by "bad people"
Murder? Drugs? Incest? Theft? Drug use? Backstabbing? Adultery? Beating the shit out of your wife?

>>9873583
How are you defining "bad"?

This is a good example of the boomer mindset that has unraveled the west (even if Gass is technically from the prior generation): decadence, with criticism turned inward, but unable to determine the actual source of the problem. This is the mindset that fucked us.

I have read his rotten milk prose, tasted the sweating odor of the man through his pages, and escaped, reeking of foul disappointment.
This, and the first person thing, made the book a real disappointment. All that time he spent crafting this dark, depressing door stopper could have been used to create something beautiful and lasting. Just a real waste all around.

He's also perverted, and not in the jolly "let's look up her skirt and find a clown face popping out" sort of way, or even the "i'm observing, recounting, or creating instances of perversion which are to effect you in the ways i see fit", but rather in a "i'm a cellulite ridden imp of perversity, i am going to allude to my very own depraved crevices constantly and clumsily and unsuccessfully attempt to pass it off as a theme perpetrated by one with higher skill than mine". style of perversity.

I know he's a little too old to be a boomer, but he's still a boomer. As old as they get, they still push this degeneracy and perversion like they're rebelling against the 50s and their parents. It's pathetic.

>>9874146
Meh, but still.
People like Ligotti are obviously not good people or at least not good people to have around. Yet their work still has at least aesthetic value.

>>9874285
>my wonderful pasta mixed up with other pasta
i guess i can take this as praise, being weaved into the fabric of /lit/ in some definable way. soon i shall surpass just like everything else.
i prolly will end up writing a book. i think it's becoming more and more urgent for me to do so, and though i do love shirking, fate is never not nipping.

Why not? You can draw porn based on your personal fantasies of babies getting raped and mutilated, but if you have a fantastic grasp on anatomy, color theory, ect. then you're objectively a good artist.