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there is noi free wull
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>>9870083
No shit people have free will. In the moment of a decision, you have multiple paths to take based on your thought processes. Philosophically, you can say that all your actions leading up to your death were 'predetermined'. But you are ultimately the master of your own destiny. The present is malleable, our actions shape its form. Technically you can say once it happened it was inevitable, but you'd be a moron to believe your fate is entirely in the hands of your own actions.

I can imagine a hypothetical group of rapists and murderers pleaing: "It was my predestined fate to kill those people, I had no choice in the matter!" Lel

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>>9870083
if you need an answer, you're not going to get one. pic related desu

i mean the frogs on your hard drive say you dont have freewill in that context.

>>9870083
>>9870166
I've always felt determinism to be better used when explaining something that has already happened because I get hella confused when I think of how the knowledge of that everything is deterimined would influence the illusion of free choice. You get what I mean?

If I in situation a don't have the knowledge I might spend more time with the decision of what to do than I would in situation b, where I have the knowledge, which would result in different outcomes based on the knowledge of that the choice exists or not

>>9870083
Free will is real desu, its not something you can prove though, only felt. The only proof you can give is that our entire psychology and inter-personal relationships are grounded on the idea that we are responsible for our actions. Without it nothing makes any sense.

>>9870514
*feel

>>9870514
>Without it nothing makes any sense.
guess what...