What was his end game?

bald female androids

Do we know who assassinated him? CIA?

>>9869179
Sitting in the study of his semi-detached house in the Home Counties, tweeting and writing guest articles in obscure online publications as the few lingering synapses left in his brain after years of substance abuse slowly fade away into nothing, leaving a hollowed, middle aged living corpse.

>>9869298
Reminder: This is the future accelerationists want.

>>9869298
hes already won. your fantasies only comfort your own defeat.

Land or Baudrillard?

>was

What happened?

>>9869619
Debord

>>9869179
Dominating /lit/.

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>>9869220
>She slid down around him and his back arched convulsively. She rode him that way, impaling herself, slipping down on him again and again, until they both had come, his orgasm flaring blue in a timeless space, a vastness like the matrix, where the faces were shredded and blown away down hurricane corridors, and her inner thighs were strong and wet against his hips.

>>9869179
solo queda una vela
encendida en medio de la tarta
que se quiere consumir

>>9869294
it was me desu senpai baka

>Neoreactionaries somehow take over USG
>Offer Land tours of the USS Charles III (Nuclear Space Cruiser) in recognition of his contributions to the restoration
>Turns out he was Chinese spy all along
>PRC gets Space Cruiser plans
>Conquer America
>Chinks in Space, cruising around, protecting the Chinese race

If I tell you, I compromise the endgame

>>9871628
Oh snap are you his best friend or something?

>>9871628
>he doesn't understand hyperstition

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>>9871628
The inevitable is already here.

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>>9872229
>implying certain types of occultist haven't known about "hyperstition" for centuries

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>Moldbug, flip me over
> I accelerated myself into a Pickle, Moldbug!!
> I'M PICKLE NIIIIIIIIICCCKKKKK!!!!

>>9869179
Reminder that Nick Land is now incoherent due to years of heavy drug abuse.
Reminder that there is no hidden meaning behind his most obscure texts, that's just his brain malfunctioning.
Reminder that somehow /lit/managed to think that a Marxist fucking his brain up with amphetamines in China is cool, even though Nick Land can now barely speak.

I swear to God, this board feeds itself on edginess.

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>>9872949
Further reminder: he's the secret reincarnation of H.P. Lovecraft

how come he only rarely updates his blogs these days bros? is he working on something major? saving all of his ideas for jacobite?

>>9872978
His brain does not work properly anymore. Sorry snon, it's only going to get worse.

>>9872949
>he hasn't fucked his brain up on amphetamines in China
Sucks to be you, nerd.

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>>9872987
>>9872988
>>9872949

Plebs.

>>9873001
Erdos was very methodic in his amp use, he did not do them recreationally, unlike Land.

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>>9869298
>>9872949
>>9872987

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>>9872949
>Reminder that somehow /lit/managed to think that a Marxist fucking his brain up with amphetamines in China is cool
>implying that's not based af

How come /pol/ are not pushing Land memes as much as /lit/ ? hell even /leftypol/ uses him for their accelerationism memes

>>9873619
>implying /pol/ reads
>implying /pol/ can even understand Land
>implying /pol/ even cares about thinkers who aren't based on plebeian consumption like YouTube and books at the 5th grade reading level.

>>9873619
2dumb

>>9872949
Land was always incoherent and believed bizarre things though, I'm pretty sure he's schizotypal, drug use may have accelerated it though.

>>9873413
He's right.
Anime is a re-imagined ideal of the human form that uses the artificiality of of technological representation to smooth out imperfections and extend the cuteness of childhood through the character's lifespan.

Once the technology is there, we will be doing that to ourselves.

>>9873978
>incoherent
Somebody didn't understand what they read

>>9872949
>even though Nick Land can now barely speak.
what do you mean by this? does he have audio somewhere or something?

>>9873619
pretty sure /pol/s ideas come from stormfront users.

>>9873978
>accelerated
lol

>>9873006
More info on Land's drug use? It all seems like hearsay to me.

>>9874496
No, I just mean he clearly believes in what some would term irrational or "magical" things, he would likely score way above average on the Magical Ideation Scale for Schizotypal Personality Disorder. I mean, he seriously believes that Capitalism is a time-traveling AI from the future. And if you're someone who's already predisposed to psychosis amphetamine usage is an extremely bad idea. My thoughts on Land personally, I think he's a good writer on a stylistic level, it's hard to explain but he uses words and creates sentences in unique and fervent ways, but I'm not interested in his actual philosophy or thought at all.

>>9874741
He's literally right though

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>>9874741
>Capitalism is a time-traveling AI from the future
Now that sounds bad-ass. Source?

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>>9874741
Heh

>>9874770
Maybe, you can't really prove something like that, I mean there a bunch of people on here who believe pretty crazy things, and I hope I didn't imply that there was anything wrong with being schizotypal, it's usually correlated with high intelligence, but for me the way he thinks, the sort of "metaphorical thinking" he uses sometimes to the point of thought disorder and the way he expresses hismself not in the traditional logical linear way (at least in his earlier writing) clearly shows me he's on a different level of mind than just your ordinary conspiracy theorist or wacko. Also beliefs brought on by schizotypy are usually much more interesting than usually conspiracy theory nonsence, there's a guy on r9k who is schizotypal who thinks that middle earth was real and that he'll become a god when he'll die. Nick reminds me of other famous thinkers who were also most likely schizotypal like Jung, Godel, and Grothendieck. Also, if you read accounts of what Land was like as a professor you can clearly see he's a highly unconventional individual the way he talks, and taught his students and so on he obviously stood out. It seems like Nick is functional though I mean he has kids and a wife and everything, whether you agree with him or not you cant deny his philosophy is interesting.

>all of the greatest far-right authors (Land included) were Marxists or shitlibs in their youth

Why is this?

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>>9874975
because marx was right about a lot of stuff and some measure of disappointment with how things have turned out since is probably unavoidable. you hate to eat some of the poisoned continental apple. the appeal of interesting right-wing thought comes from them knowing as much about capital & analysis &c as the left. sometimes even more.

maybe it was nick's karma to always end up on the right; who knows. but the fastest way to produce interesting conservative thought today is not to avoid the history of continental thought, it's to absorb & digest it. nick has done more for the relevance of marxist thought than just about anyone. it's just that rather than capitalism being a problem for people, people are now a problem for capitalism. what a twist.

peterson has dumb readings of the marxists & he gets memed for it accordingly. it's why he won't be taken seriously by people who do have the usual continental references on deck and will be taken seriously by people who don't have them and will simply describe everything they hate as postmodern.

but there was a reason for postmodernity to happen too. it's all one big story that just keeps blooming up crazier and crazier. what's missing is a proper genealogy of irony, a sort of cultural biography of What Did He Mean By This.

>>9874562
Here see for yourself. It's pretty sad, actually

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM6AzdvgK2LJMLHhI3Yeouy-3jiAKcvuB

>>9875196
Delet this and embed a video anon!

>>9875206
nein!

>>9871354
>>Turns out he was Chinese spy all along
Wow! Never heard this one before!

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>>9875196
Hey, my playlists are getting shared. NEAT.

They're actually quite insightful lectures. If you listen to them, it'll be pretty clear that he isn't delusional, drugged out or otherwise mentally compromised.

He isn't the most amazing public speaker, but his insights are great.

Here are more lectures

The Concept of Acceleration
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM6AzdvgK2LJMLHhI3Yeouy-3jiAKcvuB

Bitcoin and Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM6AzdvgK2LJrKca3SQznL9dua2blgcIq

Qwernomics
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM6AzdvgK2LKDtYMw6QQucqg4AJMXt1SV

Outer Edges (Incomplete, anyone have links to the rest of the unlisted videos?)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM6AzdvgK2LIEudhL5LcQ2Z4b1iBNTONP

>>9872928
I laughed at this.

>>9875206
They're broken into 8 parts, one for each session of the 8 week course. Thus why they are playlist links and not embeded videos.

So how many years until he croaks guys? My bet is five.

>>9872949
Reminder that Leftists are so unaccustomed to differing viewpoints they think the truth is "barely speaking."

Two yellow lines my vision's faded red, I cannot say that I've ever felt my head. Like this, I'm sure I'm dying. Guess

>>9872908
>implying hyperstition isn't the secularization of the occult in much the same way humanism is the secularization of christianity

>>9875236
why?

>>9875259
I thought it was funny.

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What the fuck is this? Does his wife beat him or something?

>>9875271
but why?

>>9875290
Because fuck you, that's why.

>>9875295
witty

>>9875276
The AI robots in his home train him to behave.

>>9875276
Probably got a bit abusive toward some Singaporeans.

"CAPITAL WILL RENDER YOU USELESS, FUCKING GOOKS!"

>>9875276
He deterritorialized himself too hard

>>9873619
It is interesting. I lurk at /pol/, and the few times there's a reading thread they do post some of the charts made here (rightwing and reactionary), and the latest thread had a lot of anti-semetic books. I've seen Donovan at times, and iron pill books.
I've yet to see Land or Moldbug however. And no non-fiction either. There was a Belgium guy who posted some obsecure social darwinian anthropologist of sorts, that was somewhat interesting.

Lots of anarcho-capitalism/right liberitarianism, and I've seen Taleb several times. They shit on most more alt-light books that you'll find in other rightwing circles and with algorithms by amazon or goodread.

What I find funny is that they do not read much non-fiction and less ideological books. But it is not as if /leftypol/ is different. I lurk there too.

>>9873619
>>9875357
/pol/ wrote off NRx as a Jewish trick a long time ago.

>>9875409
Only serious intellectual revival of anti egaltarian thought is a jewish trick but Trump isn't a Jewish trick, really makes you think.

>>9875511
This

>>9875357
I've given up on /leftypol/ at this point, their total disinterest in Jack London and Upton Sinclair is depressing

>>9875511
>places Anglo and Anglo-American elites at the center of history rather than demotist proles
>calls the Nazis out for the weird utopian socialists that they were
>makes Jews out to be opportunistic adopters of progressivism rather than the source
>practically ignores the 20th century compared to the 16th-19th

You have to like how many different ways Moldbug's theory slights the contemporary political spectrum.

>>9875409
Pol is not one person

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>>9875628
Yeah NRx is as much Anglo as Spencer-esque Alt-Right is Continental. NRx ultimately strives for liberty and good government, and basically relies on Anglo theories of government by contract (but puts the theory on steroids by making it a literal contract with a joint-stock corporation).

The Alt-Right is much more collectivist (land-based ideology) - the needs and survival or the tribal collective is its objective, so it leads to a sort of ethno-socialism. You can already see hints of this with Le Pen (not that she's even very right wing): secure borders and secure jobs/pensions/welfare for Frenchmen.

>>9875638
Yes he is

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>>9875511

>>9872949
>Nick Land
>Marxist

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>9875798
He's Marxist in the sense that he ruthlessly stole Marx's theory of Capital and used it his own ends. Which in practice is not really Marxism because it's just stealing the theory and not the ideology.

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>>9875798
>>9875855
This will give you a basic idea of his early marxist roots. It's worth noting that he'd likely still agree with this assessment, but maybe think it's not a bad thing.

>>9873619
they literary think L. Southern is good writer

I actually lost a bit of respect for Nick Land after checking his twitter.

I thought he was an intellectual heavy weight after reading his Fanged Noumena. Seriously thought he could be the 21st century Deleuze... but he digs shit like Molyneux and Shapiro. That's fucking embarrassing.

>>9876349
/pol/ here, this is false

>>9873619
Why would you read some nerd faggot like Land when you could get all your opinions handed to you by Paul Joseph Watson and Stefan Molyneux?

>>9875276
JUST

>>9876406
>but he digs shit like Molyneux and Shapiro
No he doesn't.

>>9869179
What the fuck, he looks so much like Ted Bundy

>>9876507
Stop lying, most of you mouth breathers read surface level occult books informed by styxenhammer 666 instead of evola.

>>9877184
there is already a thread about this.

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>>9873619
>/pol/ reading Land
Reminder that this is what happens when /pol/ tries to read something

>>9878336
Yo. This can't be real. Lmao.

>>9878336
#RolandBarthesWasRight

>>9878336
wtf i love camus now

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I respect Nick Land's insight but as a Muslim I feel like he really bashes Islam for the sake of fitting in with the new generation, but that's just my feelings. Still no doubt in how amazing of a thinker he is.

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>>9877269
>most of you
>read

>>9873619
>>9873627
>>9874572
>>9875357
>>9875511
>>9877269
>>9876831
>>9878336
Didn't know /lit/ was filled with leftist cucks

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>>9878772
>not wanting to associate with mouth breathers means your leftist.

Nick Land BTFOs the alt-right and Trump (but also the Left).

>It all makes sense from outside, but for WASP culture itself – which is to say for liberalism – identity politics is madness. That leaves it with nowhere to go. The leather-face schizo-Maoism of the contemporary Anglophone left is not any kind of plausible option, but neither is anything opening up on the popular right. As the Alt-Right consolidates its passionate affair with identity, it sounds ever more like Hubert Védrine. Individualism is derided. Its suspicion of free-trade owes more to Friedrich List than to the Scottish Enlightenment. Its criticism of labor arbitrage is often almost indistinguishable from that familiar from socialist traditions, marked by the same current of moral outrage at the fact that Capital – despite itself being competitively disciplined by footloose consumers – is permitted to shop around for its human resources. Wage competition, and even price competition more generally, is an increasingly common object of attack. At its dynamic, racial edge the Alt-Right promotes solidarity among Whites, or Europeans, as if either could ever be a WASP thing. Europe is what liberalism has always sought to escape. Populism demands grievance politics, which means default antipathy to market dominant minorities, and thus – in the Western context – an irrepressible inclination to anti-Semitism. None of this describes a place that even maddened liberals can go.

https://jacobitemag.com/2017/08/11/psycho-politics/

>>9878433
Why do you have to make everything about your death cult, Abdul

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>>9878433
>as a Muslim

>>9878922
The Alt-Right is not always collectivist in its assumptions. To me, it represents people trying to get their cultures to grow some sort of survival instinct - if that means the preservation of a free society (Anglo) or of the 'nation' (continental Europe).

Bear in mind that the places where this right-wing backlash has gained the most ground has been in in the individualist Anglo countries (Brexit, Trump, "stop the boats")

>>9879344
It's kind of complicated. When the Alt-Right started it meant many things and was more of a big tent of dissident right-wing viewpoints but it is starting to coalesce under a single centralized Alt-Right "establishment" which has a certain latent Anglophobia and collectivist bent.

>>9879344
>The Alt-Right is not always collectivist in its assumptions.
>To me, it represents people trying to get their cultures to grow some sort of survival instinct

But aren't these statements total contradictions? The second statement is a pretty concise definition of collectivism.

Classical Liberalism, just like it's complimentary theories of Evolution, Capitalism, Science, are all based around competition. Functioning governments/businesses/theories/organisms must compete against each other, and weak ones die. Trying to revitalize White Nationalism, to give it a survival instinct it lacks, is like swimming upstream.

"Nothing Human makes it out of the near future alive". In my mind, it's good to see Land rejecting populist nationalism, because it's dead in the water.

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>>9879386
But Land and Moldbug ascribe the lack of a 'survival instinct' to the Cathedral, which they want to run out of business. So clearly even they would like to 'save' our civilisation.

Besides, individualist peoples are perfectly capable of acting collectively in order to preserve their own liberties. In fact, they're much better at doing this than the collectivists:

http://www.xenosystems.net/corrosive-individualism/

>>9879476
I'm a little confused by your reasoning. I'd guess that Land, if pressed, would toss most of the alt-right into the Cathedral. with the exception of what he calls 'techno-commercialists' like Thiel.

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>>9879513
Let me rephrase. You mentioned that countries/companies etc compete and the weak ones die, so any attempt to 'revitalize' the west would be a busted flush. My argument is that companies and countries revitalize and reform themselves all the time in order to compete and survive - in the west's case it would mean getting rid of the universalist-egalitarian consensus enforced by the Cathedral.

>>9878941
>>9879284
> implying land does not secretly like Islam.

>>9879542
Ah, see the west seems pretty fucking vital to me. It has the majority of the world's wealth, high standards of living, good healthcare, education, consumer luxury lifestyle, mass media etc.

Alt-right attempts to "revitalize it" seem to be more like attempts to strangle it (prevent immigration, prevent free trade, waste money on border walls, create policies based on delusional ZOG conspiracy theories, etc).

The west might not be heading in the 'right' direction (that is a direction that anyone wants, on a philosophical level), but Global Capitalism as The West, is pretty much an unstoppable juggernaut. The only real threats are posed by climate change (including nuclear war, which is just another form of climate change).

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>>9879897
I laughed.

>>9873619
Because /pol/ has some hope for humanity. Land doesn't.

>>9879552
>It has the majority of the world's wealth, high standards of living, good healthcare, education, consumer luxury lifestyle, mass media etc.
increasingly untrue

>Alt-right attempts to "revitalize it" seem to be more like attempts to strangle it
this is certainly accurate for most of /pol/, but not so much when it comes to accelerationists or nrx or whatever.
of course, the obvious contention here is that mass immigration from third world shit holes is in fact precisely what is "strangling" the west and we would be much better off if we just stopped doing that.

which brings us to...
>Global Capitalism as The West
this is the crux of the matter. capital is defecting from the west in favor of china, hong kong, singapore, etc. just look at shenzhen.

>>9882303
Interesting.

>>9875409
Most of them seem to have become so completely obsessed with their totalizing Jewish conspiracy narrative of history and reality that they've gone off the deep end. No room for nuance any more, or for a vision of a future that is dominated neither by left wing cultism nor right wing cultism. Either you're part of the glorious right wing People's Revolution that will supposedly literally murder all its enemies or you're working for the 15 million Jewish demigods who manipulate the entire world with their superhuman powers. Unless you literally think Hitler did nothing wrong, you're a leftist cuck.

>>9884138
I am not even kidding. Unless you are STEMtrash that watches GITS too much, why would anyone even want the endgame of Nick. If a leftists or a rightist agrees with the teleology of Nick, he/she is just a nihilist.

>>9884497
Agreed. The only reason I even follow Land and care to see him further promoted on this board is in order to confront his ideas. I do think this may be a bit counterproductive though upon further reflection.

>>9884512
He's OK on twitter at least. To me it seems he is endorsing all reactionary movements, because those are actually accelerating reality more than the leftist and utopian cucks.

>>9884497
Thinking about philosophy in terms of 'wants' seems counterproductive. Philosophy isn't politics, it's a literary exercise.

Nihilism is also a bit of an abused word. Just because he values something like Intelligence over Humanity, doesn't mean he believes in nothing. He just isn't a humanist and doesn't see the Human as the greatest, best thing possible.

In some sense, he's actually an optimist. Believing that AI is possible is an act of faith, in wanting something greater.

>>9869179
There's a copy of Fanged Noumena in the White House lol. Bannon's.

>>9870708
what the fuck
can i get a quick rundown on nick land?

>>9885972
SOurce I dont believe yo ubut this is probably shitposting either way/

>>9886005
>Rothschilds bow to Land
>In contact with future AI gods
>Possess psychic-like abilities through hyperstition
>Controls Neo-China with an iron but fair fist
>Owns castles & banks globally
>Direct descendant of the ancient royal blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities in cyberspace (Landangrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth for lateral genodata transfer
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Land babies
>said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient far future scriptures tell of an angel who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of asymptotic acceleration and unprecedented technological progress with him
>he owns Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Landbots inside you right now
>Land is in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of Gnon to Neoreactionary blogs. Who do you think set up the meeting between Moldbug & Steve Bannon (First meeting between the two neoreactionaries in over 1000 years) and arranged the White House leader’s first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Landian bunker in Wilkes land?
>He learned fluent binary in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with him. There’s no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Land
>He's about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, he is a timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he's a benevolent being.

>>9885133
>Just because he values something like Intelligence over Humanity

He's an idiot that hasn't read any biology. Many of his essays tie intelligence to some notion of teleology. The problem with his view is that it doesn't appear that intelligence is a convergent feature of evolution. Features like wings have arisen in multiple lineages unrelated to each other. This can't be said of humans, since other species (present or past) that have features of intelligent cognition are found only in the metazoa (the same parts of the tree). It's not given to me that life, let alone large scale systems, produce intelligence as an end (even capital has problems with market failures).

>>9884497

This, most rightists, leftists, and even libertarians shouldn't be in agreement with him. The people that are in agreement with him to an almost autistic degree are something new-ish and recent (more so than the NRx crowd). They are like whimsical ironic nihilist types that sound like a combination of dirtbag left/weird twitter, posadists, and speculative realists. Land for them is 2010s posadism, but replace aliens, dolphins, and nukes with AI, robots, and death of humanity.

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>>9886443
underrated post

>>9886761

You seem like a no fun moralfag

>>9874741
>>9874955
>but I'm not interested in his actual philosophy or thought at all.
>you can't deny his philosophy is interesting.
bruh

>>9869220
isn't that everyone's endgame?

>>9872949
>Reminder that there is no hidden meaning behind his most obscure texts, that's just his brain malfunctioning.
I think of them more as art pieces.

has anyone here read the intro to fanged noumena? i think it's a great summary and attempt to explain what land's overall goal is.

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>>9886443

>>9887428
I'm not personally interested, but it's undeniably more interesting to people than all the other garbage continental philosophy and critical theory that is being published today

>>9886443
kek

>>9873978
pottery, truly

captcha: nick Spin

>>9878772
/pol/ only has itself to blame for being anti-intellectual retards full of slave morality. Supporting Trump unironically, I mean come on my nigga.

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>>9877269
Woah, hold in there buddy, that's /x/ you're thinking of. I understand the confusion, we're having a bit of a retard problem on /pol/ right now, but don't lump all of us in there.

>>9886761
And you're an idiot who hasn't studied artificial intelligence. AI can already outperform humans in localized tasks. Once a neuroplasticity analog is found I see no conceptual reason why artificial general intelligence won't be reached. "Intelligence" is just the ability to use information to approach a problem in a way that yields beneficial results. Why would that be reserved solely for multicellular biology and not other complex information processing systems?

>>9887205
It'll be very fun when the AI controlled terminators come knocking on your door, anon.

>>9890525
I'm infatuated with this style of Peterson posting. It masks any emotion under Canadian kindness

>>9890302
Wouldn't blame them because leftist can be pretty disgusting. So both sjw and nazis can go to the trash.

>>9875357
/pol/lack here

Going through both Land and Mokdbug RN. Am planning on applying to the Hestia Society as well.

Also Taleb is a crypto-formalist.

>>9891955
>Am planning on applying to the Hestia Society as well.

seems like a cult

>>9892056
It's more of a fraternity. I've researched it a bit and they seem competent enough. That's really all I care about.

Also Taleb was on the EconTalk podcast today. Such a shame that he's not more widely known as an intellectual just because he's to the Right of the zeitgeist

>>9891955
I really want to but there's no chapter in my city.

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>>9893179

dis - denial of self

>>9892096
How difficult is it to get in? What kind of people do they initiate?
I actually live in a city with a chapter

>>9893551
me o n the left

>>9875628
I'd argue it's mostly because there really isn't anywhere that has even the slightest likeness to a form of government he wants from the 20th century onward. He focuses so much on the 16th-19th because that's pretty much the only place to find his examples.

>>9893605
I'm not sure because I haven't applied yet, but you probably need to have a good grasp of NRx theory.