Please recommend edgy thinkers that are actually good.

>>9850555
Hitler
Moldbug
Breivik
Evola
Peterson

Bataille
De Sade
Lautreamont
Mesrine
Huysmans

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>>9850555

>>9850579
Wow, you must be REAL Redpilled.

>>9850555
His writing is so beautiful... brainlet here, how do I go about adopting such writing?

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>>9850555
Pic related goes a lot deeper than his detractors pretend he does.

>>9850563
>nu-/lit/ in a nutshell

>>9850607
This man is so intelligent it makes me feel sick

If you can't appreciate the final sentence for its aesthetic force then you're a fool.

>>9850607
I just wish he toned down the pornography in his books. I feel uneasy reading any display of human sexuality.

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He begged for a living and often slept in a large ceramic jar in the marketplace. He became notorious for his philosophical stunts such as carrying a lamp in the daytime, claiming to be looking for an honest man. He criticized and embarrassed Plato, disputed his interpretation of Socrates and sabotaged his lectures, sometimes distracting attendees by bringing food and eating during the discussions. Diogenes was also noted for having publicly mocked Alexander the Great.

>>9850607
his first two novels are great

>>9850607
Christ, that floored me. Now I have to read Houellebecq. Luckily I read French.

>>9850555
I dont know if he's good but he's sure edgy as fuck.
MARAT

>>9850607
this has a lot of replies but I dont want to read the whole quote because it's too long can someone give me the TLDR?

>>9850555
Schopenhauer

>>9851174
god is dead, basically

>>9851174
>the reason for kids is for me to give them my shit my values and inheritance
>i don't have shit, i work for other and the values and rules i live by wont be useful to him by the time he grows up
>i have to accept the fact that everything changes, he has to accept that life is the sum of his own experiences
>nothing in the past, and future mean nothing to him.

there

>>9850607
it's called freedom, stop being such a baby

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Read Carl Schmitt and pic related until your eyes fall out. Supplement with Hobbes, Machiavelli, and Judah Halevi until you're redpilled enough to Jew the West back into relevance.

>>9850563
Hitler had some legitimately good critiques of the German political system of his era.

And he definitely understood Churchill as a character right from the get-go.

Ludovici and Chamberlain.

They are de Maistre-like hardliners but the Throne and Altar conservatism is replaced with pure Darwinism.

They both have a very hard edge and are extremely erudite.

>>9851226
No. Read the Culture of Critique and take the redpill. Neocons are just another Jewish clique.

>>9851891
Revilo Oliver too.

Also, in a more literary vein, Arthur de Gobineau.

>>9850555
Stirner, Neitszshe

>>9850563
>Breivik

Are /pol/tards this stupid?

>>9851174
>can't read a single paragraph

It's time to take a break from 4change bro

>>9851897
>Carl Schmitt is a neocon
>Hobbes and Machiavelli are neocons
>Strauss is a neocon
I don't think you know what neoconservatism is. inb4 you say it's a form of Trotskyism AKA Bolshevism AKA Communism AKA Marxism and call me a cuck

>>9850555
Kaczynski

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German and the Next War is good if you want edgy philosophy on war and early 20th century politics.
On War of Today is good if you like military history. It's written for military thinkers in the same vein as something a Clausewitz or a Jomini (whom Bernhardi criticizes heavily) might write. His style is pretty direct too.

>>9851192
How do we get freedom from freedom?

>>9850555
Chateaubriand, Nicolás Gómez Dávila, Juan Donoso Cortes.

Are there any Western reactionaries that consider islamification as a last resort alternative to neoliberalism?

>>9851891
This sounds really good. I always disliked the LARPy part of a lot of reactionary thought today

>>9851226
None of these people were "edgy".

>>9852238
Carl Schmitt denied Hobbes as a liberalist no better than Weimar degenerates, he was pretty rad.

>>9852225
You could always look into the National-Socialists who converted to Islam - and there are a whole bunch of them...

Also, bear in mind that some racialist thinkers were also scholars of the Middle East and its peoples: Lothrop Stoddard, L.F. Clauss, among others.

>>9850607
what a crybaby

Takes a village to raise a child, stop blaming your surroundings.

>>9852290
>you need the surroundings to raise a child
>stop blaiming surroundings

Made me think.

>>9852288
Could you drop the names of those natsocs? Any ones that wrote on it?

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>>9852290
>Takes a village to raise a child, stop blaming your surroundings.

What did he mean by this?

>>9850607
>in past ages all children were sons
When did we lose our way? When did we forget the art of homosexual reproduction?

>>9852314
Jeez, you're able to use the frigging internet, do some research yourself, you might develop some skills while you're at it. I've already given one name.

There's also Rene Guenon, who privately advised converting to Islam, though he was careful not to say this in his published books. His friend Guido di Giorgio was also a convert to Islam; he wrote similarly-themed articles to Evola.

>>9852225
It's too late, Islam is already getting raped by the globalists, just like everything else. ISIS is postmodern to the core.

>>9852320
some negro proverb, and their excuse for why they cannot adapt to Western society since thy have no villages, and urbanely flee responsibility.

>>9851174

Basically, that feudalism was good.

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>>9852232

I reccommend Ludovici. his views on sexuality are quite profound. bith against feminism and against the sexophobia of christianity

https://www.counter-currents.com/2010/07/christianity-and-dysgenics/

this excerpt of him is good. he also was the secretary of auguste rodin the sculptor, and the foremost translator of Nietzsche in english.

revilo oliver is too sarcastic and bitter for my taste, but he was a very intelligent man, professor of the classics with a good grip on latin and greek.

>>9852086
Strauss is credited with the founding of the neoconservative movement, but you're right in that his full panoply of beliefs varies greatly from his successors.

>>9851891
>darwinism
Into the trash

>>9851174
you some kind of a tard, tard?

just fuck right off out of here, would you, this is a reading board.

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Lothrop Stoddard is a must-read. His the rising the tide of color against white supremacy and revolt against civilization; the menace of the underman are both very good books, of which pdf's are freely available online.

his thesis on the frenc revolution in haiti is also quite good, objective without mincing words.

he was quite the visionary, predicting in the his book "the new world of islam" the rise of islamism as a new powerful threat that would spread around the world because of saudi wahabism

>>9850563
>Hitler
Tried but failed hard.
>Moldbug
Literally not one ironic bone in his body.
>Breivik
Copy-paste.
>Evola
Copy-paste: The Origin Story
>Peterson
Literally who?
>>9850577
>Bataille
Overrated hack.
>De Sade
Criminally insane.
>Lautreamont
>Mesrine
Literally who?
>Huysmans
Tryhard.

>>9850607
>implying that the kids back then could look forward to a stable future
Only in the spoiled 20th century could someone write something like that. Only in the spoiled 20th century.

>>9850593
kek

>>9851174
Quit being lazy you man-child.

Shame on all of you who """"helped""""" him.

>>9852734
>Only in the spoiled 20th century could someone write something like that
Yeah, the 20th century was marked by stability in jobs and a direct adherence to inherited morals and ancestral culture.

>>9852734
>Overrated Hack
Offers no reasoning, just lazy opinions
>criminally insane
Ad hominem
>literally who?
Can't get the meme right, pretends ignorance is a virtue or conversely popularity is the greatest virtue
>tryhard
Again, lazy opinion, also promoting the idea that effort is somehow a fault, so lazy that he must make laziness into a virtue

Self esteem so low he can do nothing but denigrate his superiors. Sad.

>>9853026
Yeah, what this anon said; the other prat should just fuck off too with the cretin who can't read.

Also, scratch that knob Mesrine from the list and replace his book with that of Roger Trinquier - you want edgy? Read his book on modern warfare and counter-insurgency, the book the Americunt gubbermint was too fucking dumb to read.

>>9850563
Peterson is a humanist little anglo jungian. Straight-edge as fuck.

>>9852683
>Strauss is credited with the founding of the neoconservative movement

He personally defended paleocon views and his best-sell student Alan Bloom is part that particular ideology. Neo-cons are like neo-liberals, establishment taking what they like from actual ideologies.

>>9852290

No, it doesn't. It takes a family.

>>9853262
Not merely a nuclear one though.

>>9852703
reading is boring and for nerds. this board is for dank memes

>>9853238
>anglo
What does 'anglo-saxon' mean in the context of philosophy?

>>9853699
it means it's trash as all anglo """""""""""philosophers""""""""""""" have been complete hacks

>>9852225
Rene Guenon

Lee Edelman
Bataille
Andrew Culp
Pierre Clastres
Mbembe
Fanon
Lyotard
Sorel

>>9850555
Lermontov - A Hero of Our Time

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>>9850555
Adam Wallace.

>>9850555
Thierry Baudet

>>9850555

Aristotle
Xenophon's Plato
Descartes
Nietzsche
Spinoza
Voltaire
L Ron Hubbard

>>9855586

I meant Xenophon's Socrates of course. Plato's Socrates is a retarded cocksucker.

>>9850607
I've read this book and it's rubbish, Hollaback's reasoning is all childish whining and churlish imagery. He feels dispossesed because of some trauma, and blames the decadence of a society as the cause of his wounds, then becoming himself the worst exponent of that decadence. He plays at the feeling of not getting to experience the beautiful and true things in life (especially young life, young love, etc.) because of the degradation of common morality, not realising for a minute that those things themselves are inventions and ideological poison, nobody but idiots are orphan to "teenage love that never was", young love really makes no difference compared to the violence of grown-up relashionships, which are much more interesting and rewarding, and damaging. He is like an ugly teenager corroded by romantic teen movies and family dramas, feeling like missing out on a fabrication.

On that quote, isn't it a much better to not have an inherited material life, in which you don't have to keep to people you didn't choose, and are able to actually choose whom you love? In which the only transmissible property is immaterial, things that actually are moral and of character?
Only the dissafected middle class says shit like he does, if he knew what working class families are he would know families are just a bondage, sick mothers that tie you down, fathers that beat the shit out of you, a chain to the same bullshit living.

His novels are just drivel and bad sex scenes.

>>9850607

I agree with that he said there and it was really put. Really well written truth about modern societies, particularly the morally deprived and socially depressed west.

Nick Land

>>9852683
Straussians: Poli-sci (namely "political philosophy") professors. Write about Kant, Plato, and whatnot. West coast branch (Claremont) supported Trump.

Neocons: Beltway clique, work at thinktanks, the government, or crappy magazines. Had Straussian professors in college. Write about invading Qatar and Iran.

>>9854555
I'm very glad I didn't have a youtube channel where I spouted my political beliefs when I was 18.

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It's in French but you can probably find some authors in English translation.

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This one's about the most known nationalist movement of the first part of the XXth century

>>9850555

De Maistre is even bigger LARPing fag than Nietzsche or Rand.

>>9850555
Prophet Muhammed

Bernhard
Gaddis
Gass
Kafka (just because he's been co-opted doesn't mean that the reality of his ideas have been completely assimilated. He suggests some pretty frowned about conclusions about humanity)
Pynchon (although are we sure he's not just a self hating liberal? Rorty reduces him to that and I'm not sure I agree)
DeLillo (also has been co-opted by mainstream literary types but some of his conclusions are also fairly shocking. I can't imagine a more biting satire of science and its claims to knowledge than Ratner's Star. Also, predicting 9/11 several times and being able to back up any prediction with the quote "but they were our own fantasies ultimately, weren't they? The whole assortment. Our leaders simply lived them out. Our elected representatives...All we had to do was know our own dreams."

>>9851192
Freedom is the highest virtue of a slave.

>>9850638
Bruhh what city do you live in?

>>9856600
What's larping and why do yousaythat lol

Abbas al aqad

Ibn khuldun

Taha hussein

Theyre pretty good if you're at all interested in the islamic stag-vilization.

>>9850555
Ligotti
Lovecraft (when he puts his mind to it)

>>9850555
>>9850555
Locke
Descartes
Tolstoy
Nietzsche

>>9856364

Adam did nothing wrong.

>>9850607
>Houellebecq
what can I read of his oeuvre first?

>>9856831
his first novel, Whatever.

>>9855591

What a bad post.

''on, nobody but idiots are orphan to "teenage love that never was", young love really makes no difference compared to the violence of grown-up relashionships, which are much more interesting and rewarding, and damaging. He is like an ugly teenager corroded by romantic teen movies and family dramas, feeling like missing out on a fabrication.''

This is not the young love he's refering to. Go read some poetry.

''In which the only transmissible property is immaterial, things that actually are moral and of character?''

This is precisely what the quote is about ; that moral things and things of character are no longer being inherited. The quote is not about material inheritance but about societal inheritance (civilization, culture in both sense of the term).

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>>9850555
Kaczynski

>>9856617
> Rorty reduces him to that and I'm not sure I agree

Where does Rorty say this? I'm interested.

> "but they were our own fantasies ultimately, weren't they? The whole assortment. Our leaders simply lived them out. Our elected representatives...All we had to do was know our own dreams."

Did he say this in an interview? I don't recall reading it in one of his novels.

>>9852028
>>9852703
>>9852786
fuck off I don't have time to read every shitpost

>>9856861
My point was precisely that the morality he claims is not inherited anymore isn't the one that facilitates the experience missing. What he feels people (or himself) lack is something that comes from not having an inherited life, which contradicts his idea that those things could only happen within a traditional moral life. Someone that has had a modicum of life experience and takes himself honestly can realise this easily. When you persistently write about non-experience and trying to substitute it, you denounce yourself as ideologically poisoned by a lifeframe that isn't yours to begin with, "being spooked".

>>9855571
Problematisch.

>>9855591
You sound like you don't know him at all. Not even his biography.

Stop projecting, mate.

>>9857115
rorty on pynchon is in achieving our country and DeLillo quote is from Players

>>9858633
thank you, my dude

>>9852088
Kaczynski's ideas were correct but his prose is really not good

>>9850555

what book is this quote from?

>>9861793
Soirées de Saint-Pétersbourg, seventh dialogue

>>9862819
I found an English translation here, the quote (translated in a slightly different manner) starts at page 216:

http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/books/Maistre--St_Petersburg_Dialogues.pdf

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Mencius Moldbug

>>9852734
>Lautreamont
>literally who

You deserve to get beated to death you illiterate dumb cretin.

>>9863002
He deserves to die like Mervyn in the last chapter of Maldoror desu

>>9863039
and raped by a shark too.

>>9852734
Moldbug is laughing at everyone.

>>9853238
...who's obsessed with systematized mass slaughter and finds every excuse to expound on it

>>9853675
true

>>9855591
>young love is worthless
Well, I guess we know a thing or two about you now

>>9850607
Houellebecq is so full of passages like this that this didn't even seem that exceptional in context. I read Submission in two short sittings and it left me fucking staggered.

>>9856660
>Locke
You made up for it with Tolstoy

>>9862829
>tfw when dished out 40 EUROS for this

Where were you an year ago anon.

>>9856576
>reading books by infamously rude snail-eaters
no thanks

>>9852323
It's been awhile since 4chan made me laugh this hard. Thank you sir.

>>9856861
>The quote is not about material inheritance but about societal inheritance (civilization, culture in both sense of the term).

First off, the quote talks about inheriting real estate (I rent from someone else) and his job/trade (I work for someone else), which is about as materialistic as you can get.

Second, and here I will accept your opinion about what Houellebecq says elsewhere, what could possibly be the issue with "social inheritance" coming from society, and not from the father? I am but a simple man, who enjoys simplicity when he can get it, and the proposition that social inheritance is inherited from society strikes me as fundamentally sound and balanced.

>>9856831
Go chronologically.

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crippled ex-nazi edgelord gadfly Feyerabend

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Finnish ecologist Pentti Linkola

https://archive.org/details/MitchellHeismanSuicideNote

>>9865024
wew

>>9862942
>You're gonna carry that wand of frnagl

>>9864254
At least you s-support the publishing industry

>>9865009
Gas the cats!

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>>9865228
Gas the Fats

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>>9865373
Truly /ourguy/. The Cioran of the woods.

>>9865373
>over 60kg
I am thin and over 60kg. Stupid autistic Finn.

>>9865373
>60kg being a max
wot? is this guy a fucking manlet? a 60kg person 5'11'' and up would be emaciaed.

>>9865435
being manlet was normal before ovenutrition

>>9865418
>>9865435
Take into account the 'billions' and realise that there are also women and children and that modern man is often too tall for his own good.

>>9857120
confirmed for doesn't read books

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>>9865446
> too tall

>>9865640
There is such a thing, especially if you live a traditional, non-sheltered life.

>>9865459
books are boring and for nerds