>You're an avid reader, what's your favourite book

>>9833092
Still takes dick for a living so why should I give a shit?

>>9833095
because she reads gary lutz goddamnit

No one who prostitutes herself for a living can be earnestly smart.

>[Women] are incapable of taking a purely objective interest in anything whatever, and the reason for this is, I think, as follows. Man strives in everything for a direct domination over things, either by comprehending or by subduing them. But woman is everywhere and always relegated to a merely indirect domination, which is achieved by means of man, who is consequently the only thing she has to dominate directly. Thus it lies in the nature of women to regard everything simply as a means of capturing a man, and their interest in anything else is only simulated, is no more than a detour, i.e. amounts to coquetry and mimicry.

if this is true, things like this convince me more and more that pornography is an alright field of work. you know, like opposite of being a criminal, neighbour to being an accountant or something like that. when i was a kid porn people were all in the pit of society, life going wrong, drug addicts, sluts, etc. intimidating, toxic persons, at least to someone living on a safe 'sheltered' suburban environment. but in the end i guess they're really just like any of us, that doing porn is no different than being an accountant, not even in how 'much more forceful' the decision to enter the field may be - aren't most college students coerced into studying what they don't like only because it may pay well?

i think it's just tradition that has conditioned us all.

she doesn't actually understand anything she reads

>>9833282
was Schopenhauer the original robot?

>>9833092
>DFW
>Delillo
>good

Granted, she is a porn star so those kind of writers would probably appeal to her.

https://warosu.org/lit/thread/6140689

No source. And a repost.

Obvious when you google "Daniel Long" and find no author.

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>>9833373
atticus lish and daniel pic related

also: https://bestofama.com/amas/znu6f

asked by brunomarx

>>9833383
>>9833373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rdZ-Br1Pmc

here's the talk.

>>9833092
>McCarthy
>Adam Levin
>awesome taste
your judgement is as flawed as her titjob.

>not being able to list your favorite books and explain why

>>9833092
>Long is coming

>>9833394
she has great tits you fag

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>>9833402
you're trippin, they're uneven, malformed, have an artificial gap between them the size of the entire 20 volume edition of the oxford dictionary, etc. she is one of the many horrendous experiments escaped from the nefarious yiddish imagination. you have a disgusting sense of sexuality, perverted by silicone balloons stuffed into mindless skeletons pushing reddit tier fiction. I would pity you, but i know your death is imminent by your own depraved hand.

>>9833095
>>9833268
Fuck off cunts. Unless you're a freelancer or business owner, you're more of a prostitute and cuck to society than she ever will be. She has more control of what she does with herself in her career than you do. Working a shit job, adhering to every whim of your superior (they're only your "superior" because you placed yourself in that arrangement, the height of prostitution) and dick sucking him at every turn to get that 20c raise.

>>9833438
>defending a person who literally gets jizzed on by hundreds of men
white knighting a porn star, and demeaning hard working people who legitimately provide services to the community. know you no shame? i know the answer.

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>>9833456
>accurately describing the situation of workers is demeaning them

>>9833092
HAhAhAH yes REDDIT HAHAHAHA YES PORN AND WEED AND SOCIALSIM HAHAHA YES PROGRESS HAHAHA I FUCKING LOVE PROGRESS

>>9833456
Hard to hate on people who jizzed on for a living when there's people like Trevor Noah, providing the equivalent of jizz in false facts.

>>9833438
I hope you are being ironic.

>>9834570
>Hard to hate on people who jizzed on for a living

no it isn't. she's helping poison the minds of thousands or millions of men in exchange for money. pornstars deserve to be crucified

>>9834587
What? If it was not her, it would be someone else. The real culprits are the consumers.

>>9833434
>perverted by silicone balloons stuffed into mindless skeletons pushing reddit tier fiction
Not that guy, but I love your prose, have you ever considered writing?

>>9833438
>She has more control of what she does with herself in her career than you do.

"Now sweetie, would you like me to piss or shit in your mouth first?"

>>9834600
Who the "real culprits" are doesn't matter, human beings are weak and need guidance and rules. However, saying "the real culprits are the consumers" doesn't change anything, but going after the producers certainly will.
Porn is equivalent to heroin, if you want to see large-scale improvement you have to crack down on the producers and distributors.

>>9833092
I'm pretty skeptical of anyone who lists DFW as one of their favourite authors to be honest.

I was never a fan of her porn anyway.

>>9833095
>>9833268
Ahh and your so much better and more intellectual than her, no? She doesn't conform to your subconscious's biological predispositions regarding what constitutes an ideal mate, and ignore the conventional social norms governing sexuality, and for that reason she has to be some imbecile or morally corrupt insect, yes? And you're so much better than her and most everyone else, standing above all your other fellow humans and their moral filth, depravity, selfishness? No, you're probably just as degenerate and loathsome as she is and maybe even more, because at least she is genuine and authentic (at least so far as her occupation and public image are concerned).

"Sluts" as you pseuds and/or neckbeards would probably call them can be just as ntelligent and cultured as anyone else. I actually dated a girl for a while who was one of the most famous amateur porn stars on the internet, and she was also one of the smartest, most refined, and interesting people I've met, and she was the daughter of a multi-millionaire corporate lawyer and author. She didn't do it for the money, in fact she pretty much did it for free, but she like the attention and validation (and if you're honest you probably would too), and desu I think she just like to be subversive and push the envelope of social acceptability.

There's also this young and decently attractive mathematics post-doc at my uni who graduated from the University of Chicago and has already presented some of her research on Model Theory at Harvard, University of Chicago, Johns Hopkins, and University of Maryland College Park. Needless to say, she has an illustrious career ahead of her, but she also has a somewhat promiscuous side to her - she like to take nudes and send them to guys and even occasionally posts them anonymously on the interwebs. Needless to say, shes probably smarter than you and is well on her way to the career as an academic and intellectual that you can only dream of.

>>9835067
A post this long over an accusation of slutness can only have been written by a woman.

>>9835067
A slut being intelligent doewnt mke her less of a slut. Being a slut itself is a bad thing.

>>9834600
>The real culprits are the consumers.

that's a dopey argument when most of those "consumers" get hooked somewhere between 12 and 14

again, pornstars should be crucified

>>9835267
spooky

>>9834955
>Human are not to be blame because they are weak.
>Pornstars are to be blame.
Are pornstarts the übermensch?

>>9835276
If you have a dick you enjoy pornstar, period. Look how many rapes occurs inside the church without the guidance of the pornstar industry.

>>9835300
It's not a question of blame, it's a question of stopping the poison.

>>9835313
The the problem lies on the bussinesmen side.

>>9834533
It's a serious dilemma. People are getting fucked and to change that, one would need to acknowledge the fact but no one wants to acknowledge that they are getting fucked and would rather get mad at the person suggesting it instead of the people fucking them.

>>9833095
why does it matter ?

>>9833373
hahaha what's it like being this retarded?

>>9835334
Probably because when people tell others they're getting fucked they do it from some high up tower and seem like a weiner. Nobody wants to hear someone who isn't a part of their group tell them their doing their own life wrong.

>>9835276
>I-I'm the r-real victim here! I-it's not my fault i can't get laid! I-its the jewish porn!

amazing when the horseshoe gets this real

What the fuck are you faggots doing? There's yet been any photos of her posted.

>>9835067
Kek, imagine being this much of a cuckold.
>Needless to say, she has an illustrious career ahead of her, but she also has a somewhat promiscuous side to her
Was Nietzsche right?

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>>9835067
>I actually dated a girl for a while who was one of the most famous amateur porn stars on the internet

>>9835336
because porn stars forfeit the right to be considered human beings. they earn a living poisoning the minds of pubescent boys and concupiscent men. they're morally on the level of crack dealers, maybe worse because porn is so much more widely abused than hard drugs

unironically, porn industry should be proscribed at the very least by threat of jailtime, like drug dealing

>>9835350
ahh, the ol' greentext a bunch of shit i didnt say instead of responding to what i said trick

>>9835373
>I enjoy my virginity!
Go back to r/NoFap

>>9835378
Your point is basically that men are helpless not to watch porn, that the porn damages them, and that the men who watch porn are being exploited by the porn industry.

It's a magnificent victim complex you have.

>>9835378
That's so totally retarded. Most girls in porn are desperate and fucked up and being exploited by the men running the studios. Blame the businessmen if you want to blame someone but this blaming the girls smacks of standard r9k misogyny.

>>9835378
>the war on drugs is good
>prohibitions are useful

kys if you seriously think a social problem is solvable by law enforcement

Hitler, who I assume you admire, didn't change Germany by changing the laws. In fact, he did so by breaking them.

>>9835388
>Most girls in porn are desperate and fucked up and being exploited by the men running the studios.

you always have a choice to walk a better path (leaving aside that you just made this up on the spot). excusing them because they're so desperate and fucked up damsels in distress (beta white knight lol) is like saying that murderers and gang bangers should walk free because they had a rough upbringing

who said the businessmen should get off the hook? i didn't

>>9835387
again, rephrasing what i said into something i didn't say. are you having fun talking to yourself?

>>9835406
>implying prohibition didn't drastically reduce alcohol consumption.
>inplying duterte isn't successfully solving the drug problem

If you dont like porn then dont watch it. Simple as that.

If you're too stupid to not redirect your focus on things other than how horny you are then guess what you're fucked kiddo. Learn some discipline.

t. went through horny "fap everday" phase like evryone else

>>9835409
You're just pathological. Enjoy your growing bitterness.

>>9835406
>kys if you seriously think a social problem is solvable by law enforcement
All social problems can be satisfactorily eradicated if a government has the stomach to apply sufficient force. The problem is that Democratic governments do not have the authority or the legitimacy to enact needed reforms even when they're obviously necessary.

Someone post her tits, for fucks sake

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>>9835385
>b-being a cuckold is okay because the only alternative is being a virgin
Was that what you told yourself after kissing lips another man came on earlier the same day? Did you have her meet your parents? Did your friends know you were "dating" a whore?
Ahahahaha, holy shit "man".

>>9835359
>Was Nietzsche right

What did anon mean by this?

>>9835412
Yeah I'm literally saying both of those things are accurate. Are you really holding prohibition up as a positive example? My man, are you retarded?

>>9835409
>"consumers" get hooked somewhere between 12 and 14
>human beings are weak and need guidance and rules
>Porn is equivalent to heroin

rephrased as "men are helpless not to watch porn"

>they earn a living poisoning the minds of pubescent boys and concupiscent men

"porn damages them"

"men who watch porn are being exploited by the porn industry"

I fail to see how I didn't accurately express your (pathetic) point. You want to externalize your own failure as a man, and blame jews and "western" women for it. Accept it.

>>9835436
He's larping, you fucking idiot

>>9835429
Retard, force just stamps out things temporarily.

What produces lasting change is adjustment of values, what people consider right and wrong.

>>9835436
I wasn't a "cuckold" because she didn't fuck other dude on cam. The only person she fucked while we were together was me, and e porn was all solo work. Most camgirls/amateur "pornstars" don't take dick on cam. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be in a video with her.

>>9835447
Alcohol consumption rates in the United States peaked in the decade b4 prohibition.
By that metric, it was a success.

>>9835429
>All social problems can be satisfactorily eradicated if a government has the stomach to apply sufficient force

gubbmint gimmiedat crime free culture I'm too lazy to be a part of myself

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>>9835456
>my gf still showed her pussy to other men to get her rocks off while we were dating

>>9835457
>By that metric, it was a success.


I assure you, that's not a good metric.

>>9835449
But yeah I'm not larping. I actually dated this girl for about two years. She even had her own subreddit and shit. You can still find most of her stuff on motherless and slutload and few other cites. Like I said in >>9835456 she wasn't taking other dicks while she was with me, and anyway all of her videos and picks were solo.

>>9835464
That's not being a cuck. Call it degenerate or whatever, but its not cuckoldry.

>>9835452
>Retard, force just stamps out things temporarily.
It's only temporary when a government loses interest in enforcement.
>What produces lasting change is adjustment of values, what people consider right and wrong.
This is impossible to do peacefully given how advanced the West is in its disease.

>>9835464
>>9835456
enjoy your spooks boys

>>9835480
>This is impossible to do peacefully given how advanced the West is in its disease.
read a fucking book

>>9835469
>won't give a name
Larper confirmed

>>9835482
Idk lad dating girls who don't show other men their pussy seems like it's in my self interest not really a spook

>>9835489
>read a fucking book
Fantastic argument, totally swayed my way of thinking. I'll see where my e-petitions and letters to Congressmen are able to achieve.

>>9835482
Miss me with that shit. Stirner was a fraud.

>>9835464
I guess you could look at it that way, but to be honest I felt kinda of badass dating a girl that was basically (internet)famous for being super hot. I probably would have been just as skeptical of an arrangement like that as you before dating her, but looking at it from the perspective of someone in the relationship I felt pretty cool knowing that I was dating a girl that tons of guys were only fantasizing about.

Not to mention I found her self-esteem issues and mild psychological issues to be super hot.

>do one porn scene a month
>easily earn above the average wage

At that's without extra income from other stuff. What exactly is bad about being a porn star again?

>>9835447
>>human beings are weak and need guidance and rules
>>Porn is equivalent to heroin

i didn't say any of that

>"men who watch porn are being exploited by the porn industry"

i'll accept that this is fair interpretation of some of what i said, particularly for 'concupiscent men' but my concern is more for young kids who grow up with the internet and are exposed to porn before they're mature enough to defend their minds or understand the cost of wiring hours and hours of hardcore sex videos into your brain when you're fucking 13. these people are generally not customers at all (hence "consumers" in scarequotes) so it doesnt relaly make sense to say they're being "exploited", hence my objection to your wording

>You want to externalize your own failure as a man, and blame jews and "western" women for it.

who said anything about jews or "western women" in scarequotes? you're a complete mess dude. you have some idea in your head of other people you've argued with and project it onto me. the bullshit about "externalizing failure as a man" is probably projection too unless you're yourself some big dick swinging hotshot Mr. gets in acrimonious arguments on 4chan

maybe im just crabby because i didn't get enough sleep last night. you don't know me

anyway, go take the last word, this is getting shameful. im glad to have stirred the shit-pot though

>>9835514
Ask some people who left.

>>9835516
Some people have shitty experiences in absolutely every field of work. That doesn't invalidate the entire industry.

>>9833092
>genre fiction
>worthless self-indulgence
No it seems right up her alley.

>>9833355
This unironically made me think
I mean, you sometimes have AMA on /b/ of people who work in the porn industry. They just seem to see it as an average job with its constraints and advantages, ups and downs, stupid hierarchy, mini-celebrities, nice and not-so-nice colleagues.
Who am I to judge? I work for a fucking weapons manufacturer?

>>9835514
it makes your boyfriend feel insecure because he's got unaddressed self-loathing issues that manifest as social conservatism

that is, if you're dating these spooky boys

>>9835497
>>9835498
>>9835502

I get wanting monogamy from your partner, or even not liking the idea of your partner being turned on by others. But in terms of self interest, your partner being satisfied by something and earning money from it seems like it's totally in your self interest, as long as you're not being deceived about any of it. But none of you trust women anyway, because of your mommy issues.

>>9835492
http://imgur.com/a/cLjd3
13 mil views
Her most weell-known alias was miss_ginger_biscuit, but she had a bunch of others because she would constantly delete and create new accounts. I'm not going to give out my name because the only name I'd have to give you is my real name.

>>9835505
I get that, some Japanese guy posted my gf on /s/ once and I felt pretty cool. But I would avoid dating a girl who continues to post herself after we start dating.

>>9835515
>jumping into an argument halfway through on one side and then refusing to stand by the things that side said
you're an idiot

>>9835515
I'll use the last word to point out that there are probably a half dozen people in this thread, all of whom are posting anonymously. I'm sorry I misattributed quotes from the thread to you, but it's not fair to expect anyone to know which points were yours.

>>9835529
>giving out this information on 4chan
>doxxing your ex

cuck of the highest order

>>9835526
>if you aren't polyandrous, you're insecure
Whatever happened to "do what thou wilt"? Why is wanting a single life partner who wants the same thing inherently spooky?

>>9835529
>total cutie
>maths phd

hhhhhnnngggg

>>9835526
Anon nothing good can come in the long term if the person you're dating is constantly seeking validation from an outsider.

>>9835542
What you do is ignore 20 something libertines and seek quality living

>>9835535
>if I share some views with someone I automatically have to agree with everything they say

>>9835549
Yes, it's implicit in the context of the argument. You really don't understand how anonymous conversations work.

>>9835545
They only dated two years lol. Besides people dont get crazy chicks if they dont go looking for them. That's how it always works.

>>9835542
It's not! I'm sorry for implying that.

That's entirely directed at people like
>>9835267
>>9833268
who conflate unrelated ideas of intelligence and promiscuity in order to form a hierarchy of value which places themselves above these women, based purely on their promiscuity.

I'm all for monogamy and find cuckolding deeply depressing.

>>9835545
I agree, to an extent. The issue is actually your use of "outsider" which I think needs to include everyone outside of herself. Relationships die on the rocks of validation.

A relationship in which your partner can only get validation from you is also totally doomed. Self actualized, healthy people probably don't post pictures of themselves naked online very often, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to have that as a healthy fetish.

I emphatically recommend "Constructing the Sexual Crucible" to anyone interested in reading about notions of the self within relationships, and why so many modern relationships are so toxic and venial.

>>9835556
>it's implicit in the context of the argument
No, if he says he doesn't intend to defend these points he doesn't have to. You are talking with multiple individuals, not a "side".
>how anonymous conversations work
Sorry, I didn't get the memo we had a set of fixed rules about anonymous discussions

>>9835583
There's no fixed rules, but you can't call my argument a mess just because I can't distinguish your posts from the guy making the same argument you are.

For example, you're arguing with two of us, and I've been trying to keep it civil while the other guy is kind of being a dick. You just replied to him.

>>9835543
Nah I wish. My ex (the one in the link) wasn't the maths Ph.D. The maths Ph.D is just some post-doc at my uni (although she's pretty hot too), but I don't have any links for her and even if I did I wouldn't post them just because I wouldn't want to risk any unforseen super shitty consequences for my future education.

>>9835579
No I get that, it's just to me the situation seems similar to being out with a girl and she starts flirting with a guy. Even if nothing happens, and it probably won't, and still wouldn't feel that great. But that book you recced seems interesting so I might check it out.

>>9833368
No, even the Greeks were redpilled about women.

As a punishment on man for partaking in the gifts that Prometheus proffered onto them which were in turn just stolen from the gods, Zeus gave instruction to Hephaestus and Athena and to create the first human woman, a "beautiful evil" as embodied by Pandora (the "present from all the gods"), a trick intended for Epimetheus, brother of Prometheus, though Prometheus warned him not to accept anything from Zeus, but Epimetheus did not listen and instead married her. (Their relation as brothers are as foresight, represented by Prometheus, and hindsight, represented by Epimetheus.) Pandora released all the evils of humanity onto man from her jar (Pandora's "box") and when she replaced the cover to her jar the only thing that still remained inside, at the bottom of it is was Hope. Hesiod denounces Pandora saying, "for it is from her that there came the race, the accursed tribe of woman, that terrible plague set upon mortal men."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/mother-tongue/11554595/Pornography-has-changed-the-landscape-of-adolescence-beyond-all-recognition.html

>A GP, let’s call her Sue, said: “I’m afraid things are much worse than people suspect.” In recent years, Sue had treated growing numbers of teenage girls with internal injuries caused by frequent anal sex; not, as Sue found out, because she wanted to, or because she enjoyed it – on the contrary – but because a boy expected her to. “I’ll spare you the gruesome details,” said Sue, “but these girls are very young and slight and their bodies are simply not designed for that.”
>The girls presenting with incontinence were often under the age of consent and from loving, stable homes. Just the sort of kids who, only two generations ago, would have been enjoying riding and ballet lessons, and still looking forward to their first kiss, not being coerced into violent sex by some kid who picked up his ideas about physical intimacy from a dogging video on his mobile.

>>9835589
>you can't call my argument a mess
well, I can but I wont. Really, I was just spooked by the remark of >>9835549 who seemed to assume everyone should take a side instead of expressing their opinions. The guy he replied to specifically rejected one of the talking points and he demanded said guy to stand by it.

>>9835612
Sorry I was quoting myself when I meant this post : >>9835535

>>9835605
feminists and trad-cons, repressing together in harmony

>>9835540
I didn't dox her. These photos are already available online (along with a few hundred others) and I didn't post any of her personal details. Considering how our break up went maybe I should have doxed and outed her to her family, but I didn't because I genuinely did love her and still do on some level, and besides I usually try not to be a shitty person, even if like all other humans, I inevitably fail.

>>9835605
Analfags were a mistake, but these girls need to stand up for themselves. Who needs oppressors when you listen to every jackoff wanting to stick himself inside you?

But does she have a roastie?

>>9835579
>this much rationalization to justify not being emotionally faithful to someone

Definitely a woman.

>>9835619
>giving little girls broken assholes is responsible sexuality

This is 4chan so i shouldnt act too surprised

>>9835635
I'm not justifying it? I'm actually trying to point out the root cause of infidelity, which is an underdeveloped ego and a poor understanding of "self".

I'm sure you think the solution to infidelity is to knock her around a little, show her you're a REAL man ;^) Anti-intellectual little shit. >>>/r9k/

>>9835648
>the government should protect us!! We're weak little ants who can't not get anally raped or not watch rape porn!

I'm sorry you grew up in a degenerate household.

>>9835659
Who are you quoting?

>>9835526
>don't want your girl to whore herself out
>y-you're just insecure
Kek, the power of jewish thinking..

>>9835653
Splitting (things either agree with me or else they are stupid, over-exaggerated caricatures) is the typical immature response of hysterical women.

>>9835666
nice get

Interesting that stormfront has arrived back in this thread after some decent discussion.

It's not your ideas that I despise, it's your peabrained expression of that idealogy. Forced memes, buzzwords, ad hominem. It's fucking boring, cunts.

>>9835666
>>9835648
>>9835635
>>9835628
>>9835626

none of these posts contributed anything

>>9835679
>calling anyone else a retard while being a getfag

>>9835673
Are you going to make a point about the psychology of infidelity or are you just going to insult me by way of misogyny some more?

>>9835526
So it's ok to fuck your gf if I pay her?

>>9835681
>>9835673
Cool, more posts that don't contribute to discussion! Thanks for proving my point. Shitposting is a bannable offense, you know.


>>>/pol/

(for the shitposting, not the idealogy)

>>9835689
Shilling as well.

>>9835689
>when anon couldve carried a real discussion instead of shitposting as a wannabe mod

>>9835682
There's no point to be made because this isn't an honest discussion, you just here to spread propaganda.

Good for her.

>>9835693
>>9835694
if you guys had wanted to make a real point I would have gladly engaged with it. Every response I got was basically a form of calling me a stupid woman or a cuck, though. I don't see what you're trying to say, it just seems like a schoolyard fight between kids that don't get along. I'm going to work now, though.

>>9835704
Good riddance, this board is not for people like you.

>>9835704
I never talked about you and your unenviable lovelife(if youre that anon with the camwhores). My comments were on the girls with broken assholes.

>>9835704
>I'm going to work now, though.

Enjoy swallowing cum for the glorious feminist revolution.

>>9835711
What, people who read and actually discuss or recommend books? Yeah it does seem like >>>/pol/ diaspora is more what this board is about these days. Sorry your board got ruined by football hooligan skinheads.

>>9835716
nah, I'm not that dude, and as you can see by the posts flanking yours, I'm sort of talking to three people. You seem alright, sorry it got derailed by the other two dudes.

>>9834955
Cracking down on drug dealers doesn't help much more than cracking down on drug users (remember American alcohol prohibition?), and cracking down on the porn industry would help very much ether (not to mention the fact that a lot of porn these days is amateur/camwhore material. Legalizing and regulating drugs, and providing medical treatment for addicts and users is the best course of action. I'm not some leftist SJW moron, so I hate to say this, but only a fascist would support drug prohibition (but I assume you take that as a complement despite the fact that you probably drink liquor, eat fast food and fap to shota porn).

>>9835734
>Legalizing and regulating drugs, and providing medical treatment for addicts and users is the best course of action.
So what would be your solution to this "porn addiction" another anon implies.

>>9835734
It's like you're unaware of the entire non-western part of the world. Not much drugs in Japan or SK.

>>9835747
It's not my problem if inferior men can't control themselves. These people have so many options, be it counseling in real life or online support. Anyone who can't change themselves in this way is a potential rapist and I'm happier having them chained to a computer for sex, than raping my sister.

>>9835761
Because of their culture, you utter mong. Indonesia and the Phillipenes are draconian about drugs, is that working out well?

Lesser peoples won't behave like better cultures just because of a strong government.

>>9835067

WAIT. Wait. Did you fuck gnome>>9835067
girl?

>>9835747
It's not really that big of a deal, but if someone genuinely has a "porn addiction", they should probably see a therapist I guess. Ideally, they'd be able to get treatment for free through something like a universal healthcare system, but porn addiction is a lot less serious of a national problem than drug addiction, so I think that should be the last of the government priorities as far as health and mental hygiene is concerned. Regarding the the other point, the industry is already legalized and regulated, so there's not much to do as far as that goes.

>>9835679
>>9835689
How can i contribute to the discussion when you don't want to discuss?

>>9835734
>only a fascist
Were Stalin and Mao fascist? Why do socialists always forget most of their political heroes were vehemently anti-drug?

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>>9835775
>implying drug trafficking wouldn't increase massively into Japan if the gov became more lenient
>implying more drugs in the country wouldn't lead to higher use and acceptance despite their (initial) culture
>implying drugs weren't frowned upon in western culture too merely decades ago
>implying it couldn't still be like that without cultural subversion and reluctance to use the necessary force
>implying Indonesia and the Phillipenes haven't been dysfunctiona, thoroughly corrupt shitholes that couldn't fix their drug problems no matter how hard they tried
>implying Duterte isn't fixing it right now

>>9835761
Yeah and they're also pretty fucking gay. America and Europe are the shit, and so are drugs. The only thing Japan and South Korea are good for is Chinese food and affordable cars. I like to smoke weed and occasionally do other drugs, and I wouldn't like someone telling me not to. I believe in the liberal (not leftist/SJW) enlightenment values upon which western civilization was founded, and central amongst these values is liberty and personal freedom.

>>9835798
Idk what you mean by fuck gnome girl or why you quoted my post twice, but I think the answer is yes.

To the larper:

I remember Miss ginger biscuit from gonewild in 2012.

She was dumb as bricks and has no concept of internet permanency, foolishly repeatedly requesting that anons not save her pictures You're a confirmed liar.

Damn, nothing triggers 4chan quite like porn.

>>9835830
>I believe in the liberal (not leftist/SJW) enlightenment values upon which western civilization was founded
I'm sure the philosophers you're fellating appreciate their worldviews being co-opted into an endorsement to smoke weed everyday. The freedom to shoot up heroin until you're a husk is obviously what they were referring to and espousing.

>>9835830
>I believe in the liberal (not leftist/SJW) enlightenment values upon which western civilization was founded, and central amongst these values is liberty and personal freedom.
That's completely fucking idiotic, and doesn't mean what you think it means anyway. The drugs have ruined your brain, but you'll still fit right in at reddit.

>>9835830
I think you ought to re-familiarize with the trivium and the quadrivium of the liberal arts.

>>9835805
Not a socialist. The closest label that describes me is a classical liberal or green libertarian, although I'm registered with the green party. I strongly dislike Islamic apologists, feminists, leftists and SJWs, but I also have a distaste for nationalism, conservatism, "family values" in politics, and religion in politics. I support the no-harm principle and believe that people should pretty much be able to do anything they want as long as it doesn't harm others. I support free speech and think we need to defend our [western] nation(s) from people who would wish to undermine liberal values (that is, mostly Islamists). I support government regulations to protect the environment and believe we need government funding for education and scientific research. I think drugs should be legal and I don't believe that "slut" or "roastie" is a useful category for classifying people, although I do despise cheaters adulterers.

(Btw since there's been some confusion, just to clarify I'm the guy with the "camwhore" ex.)

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>>9835839
I'm not a liar. This is a pick of me and her at Halloween 2015

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>>9835887
>>9835839
This is photo I posted in an /fa/ thread earlier today.

>>9835871
>believe that people should pretty much be able to do anything they want as long as it doesn't harm others
How can you be certain that activities you deem private do not have consequences that spill out into the public? Where does "harm" begin and end?

Let's say 25% of the population is morbidly obese. Now, you might imagine that obesity is merely self-destruction but this private act of overeating spills over publicly in the form of an unduly-burdened medical system, decreased national product, and a generally revolting sight whenever I go out.

>>9835839
Miss_Ginger_Biscuit was emotionally immature and had psychological problems, but she hd a decent appreciation of the arts. She listened to shit like Alexander Scriabin and Sergei Rachmaninov and would listen to me read shit Franz Kafka and talk about Ludwig Wittgenstein.

>>9835871
>I also have a distaste for nationalism, conservatism, "family values" in politics, and religion in politics
So do all the nihilistic, childless policymakers in the EU. Now I'm not begetting your reconsideration of person values, you have your reasons, but if I had to choose the socially strained culture of now versus the socially cohesive and prosperous culture of the more religious, more family, more traditional of back then, on the mere basis of face-value presentation, I'm sure to choose the latter.

>>9835887
>>9835896

kek

>>9835896
Don't you have a bull to prep?

>>9835917

Back when?

>>9835920
Why is this kek?

>>9835921
I'm not a cuck you neckbeard. Don't you have some furry porn to jerk off to?

I should be busy studying Montague Semantics or Topology, but instead I'm wasting my time talking to basement dwelling mlp-fans on 4chan. WHAT HAS MY LIFE COME TO?

>>9835986

You're an attention-seeking pseud that's bored by your own supposed interests, so you come here to distract yourself from the wet hole that is your personality.

>>9835378
What feelings are you suppressing, anon?

>>9835925
Even as little as 60 years ago, although the decay of spirituality and religiosity has been precipitating for long before that. There was still a greater balance between spirituality (or at least the complacent tolerance of it by non-religious people rather than the current defiant, contrarian nihilism) and secularism than the highly polarized schism that exists now.

>>9835986
You're a lanky slouch who wears boat shoes indoors with short-shorts. Not only that, but you're also a manlet judging by the size of your disproportionately large head compared to your feeble little androgynous body.

>>9835906
Obviously everything we do effects everything else, but we can't rely on such radical epistemological skepticism about the consequences of our actions when considering what individual activities should be acceptable. Shit, even if an action of a given type generally has positive consequences, that doesn't in any way entail that any given token-action of this particular type will have positive consequences - in fact, it could even have negative consequences. Perhaps I might even go so far as to say that any action should, so to speak, be presumed morally innocent (or at least unharmful) until proven guilty. Anyway, I would classify a harmful activity as one that necessarily harms another or is intended to. Furthermore, I like to avoid appeals to collectivist accounts of morality or justice. I choose to recognize the intrinsic value of persons (a la Kant) and refuse to see individuals as merely an end to some criterion of collective well-being. The purpose of government in my mind is first and foremost to secure the rights of individuals, not to protect such individual or even society as a whole from themselves or others. Generally speaking, government intervention into the daily affairs of individuals and the public should only go so far as is needed to protect individuals from infringements or threats from others to their personal freedom and agency.

>>9835816
It wouldn't change a lick if they embraced full lagalization in Japan. The only people doing drugs there are foreigners wanyway. Why is it so hard to accept that it's really Western culture that's degenerated? The laws wouldn't help, statist scum.

>>9836059

What happened?

>>9836075
I'm actually 6' 3" and 160lbs

>>9836023
Not a pseud, I'm actually doing some fairly interesting stuff academically at the moment - at least as much as one can as an undergrad - and I usually spend most of my day studying logic, linguistics, cognitive science etc. In fact I actually personally know some fairly well respected logicians/linguisits who are my professors, and I should be able to get some dope ass letters of recommendation when I apply to grad school next year.

I could actually post evidence of that too, but I'd start feeling even more autistic than I already do if I went out of my way to prove my self to anon on the interweb that questions me.

>>9835811
You don't own /lit/, stormcuck

>>9836155
>Im not a pseud
>cites his professors as evidence of not being a pseud

>>9836228
What's important is not that they're my professors, but that they're well respected and that they've articulated to me my intellectual awesomeness before. Basically I'm the shit and I know it because I've had well respected figures (my professors) in the fields of analytic philosophy and linguistics comment on my intellectual abilities. I'm so fucking awesome that I don't even waste my time associating with undergraduate plebs, and I've actually had professors and grad students ask for my input on shit before or pull me aside and tell me I should get more involved with the department and tried to get some publishable work done as an undergrad. I'm basically the next Chomsky or Wittgenstein, but brainlet like you could never understand.

Unironically though, I'm the shit.

>>9836292

You write like a 4th grader.

>>9833368
I think the guy is illustrating the fact that this porn star isnt showing any direct knowledge about these writers, shes just name dropping them becuase she heard them brought up in a conversation or her handler told her to say it in an article clearly ment to push sales of her videos / "brand".

Shes just saying she likes these authors becuase she knows guys who jerk off to porn and buy her dvds read them.

Though the may very well be telling the truth. Its always hard to tell when an actor is being genuine in their candor. Especially if its for a magazine article.

>>9836329
>Caring about typos or the quality of your writing on 4chan

Tbqh famalam I don't really care about the quality of my writing on a Nigerian Coin Collecting image board. In fact, real intellectuals (like myself) INTENTIONALLY write like shit on the interwebs and on 4chan - but that's something that a brainlet like you would never be able to understand. My posts may be filled with typos and infelicitous usage, but I don't really give a FUCK. If you actually take the time to write a well thought out and articulate response on 4chan, you should kill yourself. Either way, please keep replying to my posts. All these (You)s are just making my dick rock hard. I just can't get enough, so keep 'em coming.

>>9835286
Slooty

>>9833092
Women are supposed to be either frumpy and smart, or sexy and stupid, This is confusing and makes me feel insecure.

>>9835409
Look man, I agree that porn is bad and that this slut the debate started around probably isn't a better person than any person on this board, but you're taking this way too far. How can she be accountable for her actions and the men porn "enslaved" not?

>>9836292
what is your opinion on the rule following paradox

>>9836424
i believe you that you're good at the academic hamster wheel. people like you going far in academia are the reason ive only met 1 male professor that i respected as a man (neuropsychologist working with stroke patients). male academics are almost to a man soft-headed mediocrities hiding in cubby holes and you will be no exception

>>9833092
>Adam Levin

Dude Maroon 5 is garbage. get some fucking taste

>>9836292
>intellectual awesomeness
Let me know how that works out for you, bud.

>>9836488
Don't get me wrong, I consider it one of the most significant results in the philosophy of language and I think it possesses the utmost importance to our understanding of representational phenomenon in general including both natural language and human cognition, particularly as viewed from the perspective of functionalist/representationalist philosophies of mind. That being said I don't think it should be taken as in any way radically undermining mainstream functionalist philosophy of mind. Rather, I think that what it points out is that any theory of representation broadly speaking (be in one natural language, mental content, or formal languages) cannot presuppose that the semantic value of a given representational item (e.g. a mental state, word, syntactic string, etc.) is fixed purely based on the formal content this representational item. In the case of natural language, I favor the approach of the so-called Relevance theorists, who claim that natural language doesn't "encode" the sort of conceptual messages that language is used to convey in any strict and standardized manner, but rather that natural language utterances are simply constructed in something like a loose an analogical fashion on the basis of associations that are designed to simply provide enough information for the listener to infer and construct a contextually appropriate concept (this is rather similar to the claims of George Lakoff and proponents of so-called Cognitive Metaphor). The goal of natural language is thus not to encode conceptual information in any strict fashion that can be viewed as analogous coding/decoding, but rather that utterances of natural language constitute perceptible gestalts that simply provide enough information such that, along with the contextual evidence, the speakers meaning can be inferred.

Furthermore, I believe that Wittgenstein's Rule following paradox is closely related to Putnam's Twin Earth thought experiment in a way that has been largely overlooked and under discussed. Namely, we see that in Wittgenstein's Rule Following Paradox that no list of criteria for the application of a given linguistic item is sufficient to fully determine the correct application of that item in the description of some fact. Similarly, Putnam's thought experiment demonstrates that the mental content of any given concept associated with a word is insufficient to fix the reference of that word. In both cases, the fundamental problem is that the representational content of any given representational item is insufficient to disambiguate one possible usage of this representational item from another.

In fact, this is precisely the problem posed by qualia: namely that qualitatively identical states can be correlated with distinct physical parameters, but also that qualitatively distinct states can be correlated with identical physical parameters.

>>9833360
and you can conclude that how?

>>9836604
How did you meet the camgirl?
If you're still an undergrad, and you dated someone who was posting nudes online in 2012, does that mean she was underage, she's older than you, or you waited a bit before starting college?

>>9836604
*... is fixed purely on the basis of the formal content of this representational item*

This is actually precisely the stuff I'm interested in (along with mathematical approaches to natural/formal language semantics, particularly categorial grammar and Montague Semantics). Unfortunately my department is mostly focused on Generative Grammar (we have Norbert Hornstein and Howard Lasnik), although there are a few professors that are really into Montague Semantics and Combinatory Grammar, so that's cool, and I often stop by there offices or talk with them after class. We have a top linguistics department, but even here most of the undergrad don't really no too much about the subject and haven't studied it much on their own time, so the professors really like it when that get a student that's at least familiar with contemporary research and fluent in the language (no pun intended).

>>9836620
Yeah I've always had girlfriends a few years older than me. Not that they're way older than me or anything. It's not like I'm casing cougars or anything like that lol, it's just that most of my friends have always been like 2 or 3 years older than me. The youngest girlfriend I had was one year older than me. The camgirl I met at library one day. She and her hot ass friend were both sitting down at the library at my uni and they both had brightly dyed hair, so I just went up to them and complimented their hair (at the time I was interested in either one) and the rest was history. I eventually came to learn that her friend was a complete bitch, but I have nudes of both of them on my comp.

>>9836638
You say that she only ever appeared solo, and yet I am looking at pics of her blowing a guy on motherless.
Is that you?

>>9836617
She's a woman

>>9834955
>>9835276

A demand always creates a supply. The only way to improve the situation is to go after the consumers.

>>9836673
Yeah there are like two or three of those and one with cum on her torso, but they weren't me. That was her ex before I dated her. I didn't really count those though because you can't really see the guy. But yeah there aren't any photos of me and her either public or private although I did take some of the photos.

>>9836737
Well There are now xd

If you ever become famous, I'll remember this thread

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>thos whole thread

>>9836604
continuum hypothesis?

>>9834955
>I am weak and need guidance and rules.
Look at this faggot

>>9836799
Well I actually left my house and now I'm on mobile so I don't feel like typing out a long ass response on my phone, but to be honest I wouldn't have very much to say on the CH. I do know a good bit of set theory and enough basic transfinite arithmetic to discuss the basics of CH, but that's about it. Unlike most trendy meme-tier philosophy fans I also know enough logic and recursion theory to actually understand godels and tarskis theorems (actually just finished a course on computability and undecideability in the spring), but to be honest my favorite areas of math are abstract algebra and linear algebra, and I do believe they both have significant applications to linguistics, despite the lack of attention they've received thus far (aside from with respect to formal languages and automata theory, both which seem somewhat dry based on my rudimentary knowledge of them). I wont go too in depth, or it would take all day, but I believe group theory and linear algebra may provide very fruitful areas of research for theories of semantics and translation.

>>9835529
Good job dood

>>9835811
You guys are such loser

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>/lit/
>I would never do something as despicable as porn where you have sex all day and make money hand over fist
>I'm set on an honest career in writing
>Thus I'm far superior to this pornstar

WHEW! Cucked much?

>>9836861
okay man pretty good. Pretty pretty good. Now only if you could work on your self esteem so you wouldn't have to waste your time responding to random internet people challenging you.

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>>9836861
>tfw brainlet
How do I into language theory?

>>9837040

Spreading the Word, by Simon Blackburn

Honestly, if you're not interested in logic or math it's going to be torturous going at any level above the layman's.

>>9833368
Not really, he was crazy about women, and successful both with them and other things. He's pretty much right if you don't take it to mean biologically, but rather culturally. Thousands of years of having less power to influence things than men will lead to a deeply ingrained female-only culture that deals less with influencing things, because why would their culture revolve around things they either mostly aren't allowed to do? This is of course also what feminism was about changing in the beginning, and still mostly is, even if it's gotten a bit weird now with young and dumb people finding a political platform on the internet.

>>9837040
Try to learn some basic formal logic and set theory. It would probably be better to get a textbook on the subject intended for philosophers and linguists rather than mathematicians. Also just take some time learning some general philosophy of language. A long, long time ago when I was first learning the subject, I found that John Searle was the easiest to understand, and he's still one of,my favorites. That being said, having a background in philosophy of language isn't as important, but you don't want to be like one of those computer science plebs that doesn't actually know any background theory behind the subject. Anyway, once you know some basic logic and set theory, try to find a book on "auotmata theory" or "languages and automata". If you're not as interested,in learning about the relation between languages and computers you can just skip the sections of computational complexity, since any textbook on the subject will include a chapter or two on that, and its not crucial for an understanding of languages.

>>9837371
>
Feminism was always about "liberating" women from marriage and monogamy and becoming the "superior" sex. The end goal has ALWAYS been a queen bee-like society. Emma Goldman was proselytizing about female supremacy and the inherent evils of the cishet male long before tumblr.

How does a woman that beautiful end up in porn? Are Kayden and the likes of her unaware of the existence of millions and millions of average middle-class men who would literally worship them? Why do they choose getting fucked on camera by hundreds of men instead of being with us? Kayden is the kind of girl I would have stared at in high school and dreamed of marrying. Am I, the average Joe, an objectively worse option for a girl like her than getting spunk on your face for cash? How am I supposed to bear with the staggering feeling of self-loathing?

>>9837552
Women don't understand that being a whore is shameful. They will only understand when more people than not will tell her that it is shameful. she has no inborn sense of self-respect and honor-those are masculine concepts. As we know not even many men act with much self-respect.

Personally I also don't agree with you that she'd be worshipped by hundreds of men. I couldn't imagine being with her. The girl-next-door look is what really makes women interesting.

She will die alone and she won't even mind.

>>9837584
>personally I also don't agree that she'd be worshiped by hundreds of men
I meant prior to her "career" & becoming a whore.
>women don't understand that being a whore is shameful
I'm not sure if I agree on this one. Just google Kayden's first porn and take a good look at the finisher - the look of hatred and disgust on her face while an anonymous man ejaculates on her face. She most certainly leaves the impression that she is indeed well aware of how disgusting the whole situation is.

>>9837604
Who is she?
Ñ

>>9837604
If I ever find myself in this situation it's because I had to pay the woman in question.

>>9837604
Pop the question.
>>9837615
Kayden Kross, dumbass.

>>9837606
Post pic of this

>>9837631
Just search for "Kayden Kross can't take facial" - the 30 second video on xvideos is alright, but there might be some in higher quality.

>>9835559
That's the biggest bullshit ever.

Define "looking for them". But you're view is highly flawed.

>>9837552
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318212/What-makes-pretty-good-girls-pursue-career-porn--Director-follows-16-actresses-results-VERY-surprising.html

As always women are sluts for "power". Yes, they think being a whore makes them powerful.

>>9837552
>>9837584
she makes more money doing porn than marrying an average middle-class wagecuck, stay mad moneylets

>>9836147
We killed god. Don't you read?

>>9837659
are men any different?

>>9837668
Your brain on capitalism (and I'm not even a commie)
Who cares for money if you ahve to literally whore yourself out for it? No one needs to go hungry in the West. There's literally no reason at all to be a human cumrag.

>>9837680
Is this a real question? Do you have sex because it makes you feel powerful?

I fap because it feels nice and I sleep with my gf because I love her and it's amazing- mostly because I love her. The world of those pornstars must be cynic and nihilistic af.

>>9837694
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP*

her cunt lips look like chicken skin

>>9837680
In order to feel powerful men go into politics or the military, usually.

>>9837753
I won't seriously respond to shills.

>>9837707
Your brain on spooks
Who cares for reputation or honor if they are just spooks? They're worthless. There's literally no reason at all to be poor.
Reputation is an idle and most false imposition, oft got without merit and lost without deserving. You have lost no reputation at all unless you repute yourself such a loser.

I still cant believe she reads Gary Lutz. This is flabbergasting

>>9837707
what if being a whore is just plain ol fun?

>>9837659
>dailymail

>>9837768
Basic gestalt on Gary Lutz?
I'm a newfag on this board

>>9837972
I'm not really sure how I'd describe him. His shtick is that he writes sentences that are extremely tight and mess with syntax. He's not interested in anything remotely close to plot or character and is more concerned with the relationship of the sound of words in a sentence. He's also obsessed with grammar and has written a lot of non fiction about it. In one talk he said that he often reads major publications and focuses exclusively on how the grammar functions when disseminated to large audiences. He's kind of strange too. He said that he watched the same movie everyday for like a year straight and it was some weird obscure mainstream flop. I can't remember the name. Check him out: http://www.postroadmag.com/Issue_1/Fiction/lutz.html

>>9834956
DFW and McCarthy are always a huge red flag.

>>9833092
Lit is literally the one place I go to get away from porn. Why do you have to bring this shit here?

>>9835067

Anon, it doesn't quite work like that. I won't bother with demonstrating how taste is not entirely subjective, but will simply refer to Hume's argument (IE: Taste reflects the character of the one who makes it) and obviously character matters.

A lifestyle decision is naturally part of your general taste in things ; and I would say that there is a link between your intelligence, your moral character and your taste.

Pornstars are generally unintelligent. Same goes for prostitute. Of course, in almost every era, there was a caste of cultured courtesans who sold sexual services to powerful political figures and rich men - but that was the exception and not the rule. The situation has not changed today.

Promiscuity IS linked with poor marriages. And bad family situations. And the child having issues. Sexual norms exist for a reason.

>>9838242
Stop being so degenerate.

>>9838292

wew

>>9838292
MODS

>>9838265
Some porn actresses and whores are in the business due to their derailed psychological development as children. Reducing it to a sterile statement like "a lifestyle decision is naturally part of your general taste in things" shows a profound lack of understanding of humans.

>>9838906

Doesn't invalide my argument ; a choice is a choice. Look up Kane.

>>9835267
>Being a slut itself is a bad thing
Explain. Why somebody who choses conciously to make this as a job should be a bad person?

>>9833268
I'd prostitute myself if I could and I consider myself smart

Bunch of really insecure fags up in this thread.

>>9839200
Tits or gtfo

>>9839148
Because it is, in the long term, in negative self-interest. There is a hard wall that a female will pass after which point she is simply an undesirable. By squandering the free time she does have as a highly desirable on the pursuit of flesh, she is not cultivating a richly personal relationship with someone who will feel obliged to care for her welfare in the future when she loses her inherent value as a female, but this is the result of sentiment. The question, "why can sentiment not be cultivated in later life?" in the context of womanhood should be immediately apparent: she will at a point lack any redeeming quality which would serve to initially precipitate a man who will grow to hold her with sentimental value to approach her in the first place. The only type of man to approach a sterile woman is one who: already has kids; or, does not want kids. You can play fantasy all day and pretend otherwise but given the biological prerogative of all creatures, it is an insignificant minority of men who do not want to have children (presupposing for the sake of argument a permitting, best case scenario). The former type of man is liable to already be married or in some form committed to the mother of his child (we should damn well hope this is the case at least).

Therefore, the 45-year-old plus woman is in dire straits. She is no longer fertile thus proffering no biological incentive for a man to choose her especially over a younger woman; she'd better hope to have an incredibly rich and cultured personality or no one will be truly interested in being with her for her person; she is liable to have no children (we are talking about an efficient slut, right? It's highly inefficient to sluttery to do it wrong and being knocked up) and so lacks any supporting future prospects, especially in the capacity of her children taking care of her in her old age since she wouldn't have a husband to appeal to her burden (oh, the humanity, how (ideally) the husband and children are mutually-related anyways); and if she DOES meet a man, she is bound to feel some sense of guilt over her fruitless escapades of yore and vow not to continue her misguided way, much to the contorted irony to the prospective future-man at he is now made to work for something that she once gave away at a whim. Oh Blanche, how you are not clean enough to enter the house of my mother!

And none of this yet even to do with the correlation between the likelihood of divorce and the number of former conjugal partners.

>>9839446
If he had tits he'd be able to prostitute himself.

>>9833456
But sex isnt that big a deal you fucking virgins

DFW had some of the hottest audience pussy

>>9833268
>no one who is intelligent enough to get paid for fucking is intelligent

>>9840648
Not that guy, but unless you're a high-end escort, a "career" in prostitution will leave you destitute and out of work by 30.