Depressed African Author

>>9827929
Fugg :DDD

are you actually from africa?

WE

Stop being an idiot and seek better company, write your shit.

>>9827935
not really. i live in the states and am black. i just liike to call myself african.

>>9827943

Yeah...uh stop that. You're not african. Try writing about life in america, something you actually know.

If you said you were from africa btw, i was going to post, "Oh, that sucks."

how about rite about montenegro. it's good country with good food and nice womem.

You could do, "Da Load u Da Rangs"

and just copy lotr but have every character in it looking like sam jackson from pulp fiction and stuff.

>>9827929
I'd love to read an African fantasy. The medieval European setting has been stale for decades.

>>9827958
It's been stale since tolkien inevented and perfected it, and everything since then has basically just been trying to re-create.

>>9827943
>Romanticizing about "muh heritage" and "muh ancestors"

you deserve it

OP HERE

Yes actual african from Zimbabwe. Grew up here and spent most of my time here

>>9827964
oh, that sucks

>>9827929
Just sell your stuff on Amazon. Most of the white women I know would be thrilled to spend 99 cents on a black writers story to sit, unread on their Kindle, just because the author is black. This may be patronizing but you may as well profit from it, this black panther movie will probably drive sales of that kind of shit up.

>>9827967
If thats the case he can go for traditional pub

>>9827947
lol so then are you a white that believes no one but poc of should write about minority characters?

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Here's the problem: deep down, nobody likes Africans; you're all annoying and unpredictable. I'm not trying to be edgy or rude, but it's just the truth.

Good luck my melanoid friend.

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Maybe you should try to publish it else where. I think African lore could be very interesting and something fresh in the fantasy genre. But in writing communities or /lit/ only scum and human garbage is lurking.

>>9827998
Fuck you racist thats just your imagination

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>>9827954
That should be part of Serbia

>>9827998
Thats even more reason for him to do whatever he wants lol.

>>9827994
>so then are you a white

Yes, I am a white.

> that believes no one but poc of should write about minority characters?

huh...?

>>9827964
oh, that sucks

>>9827947
gonna bust a cap in yo ass

>>9827998
Hey man believe what you want I'm not here to sway minds. I'm just a writer.

Thanks for the good wishes though my Caucasian friendo

>>9827943
go live in africa

>>9827994
who's poc? That your parole officer or your skooma dealer?

>>9827929
I think you should go for it. African Nationalism certainly needs a boost in the US, maybe you could inspire disaffected blacks to move back like many did in the 60s and 70s.

If you're focusing on western Africa, make sure to consult the works of Michael Bertiaux for religious beliefs and practices. His books are amazing.

>>9827929
>letting /pol/ critique your work
you deserve this

you should submit your work to western publicists, they eat that diversity shit up, you'll be a millionaire. especially if it's an actual authentic take, not some hipster black lesbian from gentrified brooklyn writing about it in her ivy league college's school paper (which she was accepted to on affirmative action)

isn't modern day africa basically game of thrones anyway? Just people running around with machete's chopping everybody's head off with warlords running it? Just pick up a video camera, that's all man.

>>9827929
accept it if and if you don't like it you're a bigot SJW libcuck.pewdiepie did nothing wrong.

>>9828080
Maybe in some places, Africa is huge and a lot of places are the exact opposite.

>>9828078
>you'll be a millionaire.

Well....no. They'll publish it and put a huge marketing campaign behind it and it will completely fail and you'll have to pay your advance back, and then they'll blame racism or whatever for it's failure and you'll never get another book published but still...you got published.

>>9827929
> things that never happen: le white privilege college student fantasy post
Nice try, but you fail.

'Black African dudes' have 1001 problems, but having badfeels from random internet retards ain't one of them.

>>9828087
what? they're trying to put the heads back on with machetes?

>>9828098
>what? they're trying to put the heads back on with machetes?
Well... You never know, their witchcraft and zombie stuff can get very intense.

>>9828080

Depends on where you live. There are some places where I wouldn't stay just for a few seconds but other are pretty safe. My ex-GF lived for a year in Africa and her experiences are overall very positive.

>>9828114
WE
WUZ
WIZARDZ

I'm black too anon, you can write a fantasy drawing from these inspirations but it over all has to be a unique vision. Don't just copy and paste traditions that really don't have anything to do with you, or it will lack authenticity. Which is one of the main reasons why I don't read a lot of african fantasy books because they are usualy in the form of one big buff black dude who is a wizard fucks a tall black afroed black chick who is a wizard and lions can talk.

Mix in different cultures, pull form real life experiences.

>>9828023

that only minorities should be able to write about minorities you dense mother fucker

>>9827929

Fuck you for thinking /pol/ is us.

>>9828117
Oh, how many kills did she get?

>>9828120
Thats why I prefer totally unique settings so I dont have to bother with authentic depictions of differnt cultures and all that shit, just go balls out.

>>9828130
No, anyone can write about whatever they want ultimately.

But if you're looking to have some success as a writing, maybe you should stick to stuff you actually know about and have some connection to. Start there, at least, then maybe you can try harder shit like writing about africa when you've never been there.

>>9827929
Write it anyway. I've been told to kill myself like 20 times for my poetry here, but sometime you'll get a comment that's helpful.

you aren't loyal enough to your vision if some shitposting fags convinced you to change course

>>9827947
he is african stupid, he came from africa like every other negro

You should read Mumbo Jumbo.

>>9828268
>whining about people telling you to kys
LITERALLY KYS

>>9828278
this. Be ready to die for your shit.

>>9828268
Stop shilling yourself Rupi Kafir.
Time to go poo in loo like a big gal.

>>9828075
American Blacks have no place in Africa desu, they are so distant culturally at this point

>>9827943
Black auteur here, my shadowed friend, psychologically we are outmatched in America from both sides of the fence, enjoy the sadness, that's where the creativity works in overdrive, think traditionally yet you represent the unorthodox, you're a dream come true, a unique one too

>>9828531
Well they sure do seem to hate it here--either languishing in ghetto apathy across generations or full of impotent rage that will produce no positive cultural change. Plus Africans can really use the help from some people with technical skills and other human capital. It's a win-win.

>>9827929
Who cares what a "online community" thinks? If you want to write fantasy on Africa, fucking write it. If you have he need to write, just do it; that's what literature is about. Now I encourage you to leave the 4chan and go to write. Be more brave son! The hell you make me reply you, I swear.

>>9828548
It's time for BLM to put their money where their mouths are and revive the back to Africa movement.

>>9827964
Oh, that sucks.

>>9827998
racists are brainwashed since childhood.

>>9827929
Fantasy rich in melanin is super hot right now. Publishers want that shit. Step 'n write it, fag. Stop making lame excuses. Or don't, and let whitey keep you down some more.

>>9827929
Do what I do, steal from your favorite fantasy novels, music, games, any media. Find african art steal it and just put a little bit of your own spin on it.

>>9829615
the other way 'round, buddyboyo

>>9827929
Fuck off nigger, this is a White Man board.

>>9829735
this

Good luck man, write what you want and ignore pathetic people who try to put you down. I'd read your stories

>>9830002
cuck

>>9828080
Modern day Africa is /k/'s wet dream. Tons of warlords with more money than sense, rogue arms dealers, mercenaries, and the UN fucking up. There's plenty of interesting non-fiction about it.

>>9827943
Utilize your suffering in your art. You could be the next "grunge rocker" of black authors, anon.

>>9830029
maybe the next nuggetfest should be held in Mogadishu, anon.

marlon james is doing an african fantasy next i hear
mite b cool

>>9827929
Read The Vorrh

>>9827929
>things that never happened from /pol/ poster
>retarded /pol/ cross posters everywhere
Whelp guess no more /lit/ today

WE

WUZ

>>9829615
True.
>>9829685
Also true.

>>9827929
If you lied about being African how can we be sure that you're actually black...You're probably just a Puerto Rican or something.

"We wuz" is probably one of the worst meme around, as now "people" seem to throw it around everytime a black guy appears on a screen.
There's plenty of interesting stories that you could write about Africa, including the kingdoms you talked about. It will be nice both for you to read about those because they're not well known and for people with a similar interest to learn about them.

Though stop calling yourself an african. You're black, and american. That's some cringy shit.

>>9827929
dont let these cunts get you down, dude, just picture the setting and do your best to portray it as best you can and have a crazy cool plot, i can see it being fashionable not even in a race empowerment sort of bullshit way, as long as its loosely based on history and has a great adventure plot with a relatable hero.

>>9827929
White guy here, it's true that everyone hates nigros by definition but you can get easy cash money by starting a kick starter/ patreon for an aspiring black author writing fantasy and shit from white guilt dickheads.

I've been meaning to write a WE WUZ KING ARTHOR and shit though and need your feed back on how racist/ patronising it is.

Essentially the sword in the stone is just a shard of meteoric iron that fell to earth, it's set in a fantasy africa and merlin/ morgana lefey are a pair of shamanistic twins fighting to see which one can cure their fantasy aids by raping the other first.

>>9827943
If you move to Africa I think it would help your writing a lot.

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Would it be as cringy, as you guys said about mr. blackie here, for me, a japanese american, to include japanese folktales/literary influences in my short stories, simply on the basis of my being born in America? I feel a disconnect from my ethnic culture in America, having grown up speaking English, and only recently having become fluent in Japanese at 21, but is it really fake and dumb to attempt to reconnect with something that I did not quite grow up with, even though it is technically in my heritage? Should I instead, being an American, just attempt to be American? Would that be more truthful to myself, even though I am ethnically Japanese? In that case, would I not be a Japanese roleplaying as an American in an attempt to fit in, when I do not fully integrate into the literary history on the basis of my race? That I would be conforming to the literary values of a country simply because I live there? Or am I limited to the niche of the Asian American literature, which is a very limited source of inspiration to draw on, if I am to be "true to myself"? Why is it that certain people feel free to borrow from other cultures, say, for example, Barth borrowing from Borges, and in this case it is not seen as a false appropriation of a culture, but an integration of another, an exotic influence/aesthetic of sorts to be added to an already solid cultural base of inspiration? Should I, like Barth, take my own Japanese literary history as nothing but an exotic influence, not reflective of myself, and my values, as an American, though there are still remnants that exist within me, because they have been passed down through my parents? It seems to me on the one hand that the whole debate is absolutely retarded. One does not CHOOSE their values, their literary values, their internal sense of aesthetic, and to consciously cherry pick them from any country at all, whether it be one's birthplace or ethnic motherland, is to be false to oneself, unless they be values that already exist within oneself and are simply being, in a moment of recognition, found to parallel the values of this particular culture. And yet, one DOES choose what they read, and thus what they choose to be influenced by. Am I thus a fraud until the values of the Japanese literature that I read have been integrated unconsciously into myself, at which point one can say that I am not consciously choosing them, or not a fraud at all? Or will I always be a fraud for having chosen to incorporate these values, consciously, in the first place? Why is it more truthful to follow the literary values of my childhood, then, say, a consciously incorporated set of literary values only fully integrated by adulthood?

>>9831572
Just do it you fuck, who cares where you steal from. It doesn't even have to be your own culture. Are you going to be upset at Mishima when he references western authors? Would you be upset at a writer from Central Europe drawing from Indo-Aryan myths connected to his own cultural sphere by a mere thread literally spanning thousands of years? Just don't overly romanticize those influences that you came to know in a more conscious process and you'll be fine.

>>9831619
I meant those to be more questions just to get you guys to think deeper about this issue, not asking for advice. I already write with them incorporated

Go on, OP, follow the dream and write your story, man!

>>9831435
I don't think memes that are used to be dismissive of arguments or people are very "patronising". It really just shows how insular your thinking is, and where any conversation will probably head.

>>9831641
There's really nothing to think about. As long as you do what you do with skill and purpose nobody will say shit.

>>9831663
*unless you actually are african. Then DO NOT follow your dreams! It WILL get you killed.

also, oh that sucks.

>>9831677
there's quite a lot to think about. You seem to be dismissing the entire issue of race and culture and saying "just b urself".

>>9831682
I am, since that's what it all comes down to.

I could shit myself about being a black sci-fi author writing with a predominantly black cast and rather apolitical themes, but that has nothing to do with me actually writing and getting shit done. These type of things are often just distractions for people who want to do anything but work.

That's why my advice for OP is to just fucking do it and let his own skill decide the outcome. Anyone who derides OP purely on basis on race and his face-value subject matter isn't even equipped to talk about writing seriously, so fuck them.

>>9831682
>You seem to be dismissing the entire issue of race and culture and saying "just b urself".

That's what most people do outside of America. I'm Irish and over here no one gives a shit what colour you are or where your from as long as you stfu and get on with life. We have no patience for people whining about race as if we're in America or some shit.

>>9831726
Maybe I'm not being clear. I don't care what people think about me. I'm talking more about a the existential issue of race, identity, and its ties to literary influence. These are personal problems to be worked out through writing, not required problems to be solved before one writes.

>>9831726

Hey, why don't you shutup and go write your dumb bullshit?

>>9831806
They're only really "problems" if you want them to be. If something inspires you then work with it, if not then it's nothing to be concerned with.

>>9831667
The meme itself would not be so effective in dismissing people or their opinions if it wasn't objectively true that black puritans engaged in cultural burglary on a regular basis.

Also I'm extremely open to discussion, I think a black arthurian retelling has a lot of potential but I would like to know how a black fantasy fan like op would react to the story being told by a whiteru deviru.

>>9831801
>potato niggers don't notice race

Color me surprised, shamus.

>>9831827
Inferior races are always getting worked up about race. See: American mongrels and their identity politics, Arabs and their Infidels, Africans and the white devil.

Being able to just get on with ones life is the sign of a superior race.

>>9831821
yeah, sorry but I'm not going to try to spoon feed you anymore, seems like you have really shitty reading comprehension

>>9831842
I'm just saying you're overthinking it, and your formatting is garbage. Yes there can be quite a few perceptions to challenge if you feel that they're getting in the way of you expressing what you want to express, but if not then whats the big fuss? These may be problems you concern yourself with, but some others may not be so encumbered.

>>9831841
True. There's plenty of white people who are born into shit situations who can still pick themselves up and brush themselves off and make something out of themselves. It's one of the few cultural ideas white people actually have: no excuses, get on with your life and persevere.

This is because, if you study the history of "White" people, even though it's a race that doesn't really exist, you'll find thousands of horrific events they lived through, but had to overcome and still carry on.

More than anything, if you embrace that idea, you will be welcome in most white communities, no matter what race you are.

>>9831871
Honestly that's not even a "white" thing, its just being a responsible human.

The West has just put too much credibility into being the victim and we're suffering for it.

>>9831841
Topkek
>white people dont bring up how superior they are to try to feel better about themselfs
Keep dreaming kiddo

>>9827947
>something you actually know
>fantasy
Moron.

>>9827947
And Americans aren't medieval Europeans, they can still write fantasy in that setting though.

No need to be a dick.

jesus i was aware /lit/ was filled with brazilian shitskins but actual niggers? fuck off my board

>>9831903
Yeah, because fantasy is totally made up and in no way reflects or has any basis in reality, moron.

>>9831911
Yeah man you're totally right. All those fantasy authors pulled from their real world experiences with dragons and dwarves.

>>9831871
You're putting quite a lot of value in muh whiteness there buddy.

>>9831841
But...but the Jews! The Jews are keeping us down!

>>9831955
I'll agree with you just because your post makes no sense and I feel sorry for you, and I don't think you really understood what I wrote.

>>9828283
most blacks living in the US have percentages of white mixed in, so not totally out of the savannah African per say

>>9827961
people like you who argue by putting "muh" in front of any and everything deserve to be shot

I always thought the Mirage block from MTG looked pretty cool.
I think there is a market for that kind of stuff OP, go for it.

>>9829615
lol I never had any kind of racist influence growing up, my parents actually went out of their way to try and teach me otherwise, Didn't stop me from realizing people are not made equal.

>>9832030
>my parents actually went out of their way to try and teach me otherwise
thats probably why

>>9832030
You're dumber than me, doesn't mean I'd begrudge you equal rights.

>>9831965
OK, but you're still giving a lot of credit to people simply because you identify with them. :/

>>9827929
>caring about what people thing
never gonna make it, it's genre shit anyway, not phenomenology

>>9832039

"White People," even though the race doesn't exist, have had a lot of success because they've culturally accepted a pretty simple idea of perseverance. You can say the same of the jewish also, but nobody was talking about them.

I don't see it giving them a whole lot of credit when doing something as simple as that leads to a certain amount of success. They do what they're supposed to, and things go well, that's about it. More than anything it shows how fucking dumb humans in general are.

>>9831910
Argentina borders planet of the apes m8

>>9832059
You do realize pretty much every country exists because of "perseverance" correct, and is to some measure a success? It's not like the entire world hasn't been in constant war and reclamation for the past couple thousands of years. Bias aside, It doesn't make sense to append whiteness to any of it.

>>9831871
>More than anything, if you embrace that idea, you will be welcome in most white communities, no matter what race you are.

If this were true white people in America wouldn't be so triggered about immigration considering USA has one of the strictest policies, most crime is from the native populations, and coincidentally our service market has expanded tenfold.

>>9832194
They have a problem with the fact that immigrants aren't coming to the country in order work their asses off and forge a new life, but rather they're being bribed to come here and soak up a ton of social welfare.

>>9832110
No shit dummy. Once again my point flew over your pointed head. You can't ascribe it to whiteness, and I've even said I don't believe whiteness to even be a thing.

The fact that some "Whites" are able to grasp a simple concept as that and have success doesn't say that much for them, but just how stupid most of humanity is in general. All it says is that some people can grasp a siimple prospect and be relatively successful, while others struggle with it and don't for generations, and then if they decide too, they magically prosper as well, i.e. jews for example. Imagine fucking that.

what aren't you getting about this? Do i need to speak in clicks or what here?

>>9827929
honestly i'm not weird and racist and would be honored as fuck to read your stuff if you're cool with it

i also don't know dick about shit tho

>>9828531
They should take a portion of africa for themselves, like jews did in middle east. Nobody would shoo them for killing other blacks since they suffered so much in the USA.

>>9827929
Please write this I love subsaharian kingoms and empires

>>9832262
>They should take a portion of africa for themselves

They did that once. Didn't go so well.

>>9832240
So absurd because as long as you think it works! it's not magic nor is any context needed! You're delusional.

>>9832221
>i saw an image macro once that told me this

>>9832298
k. Actually I still have no idea what you're even arguing. So whatever you say, chief.

>>9832240
You're arguing something that is qualitative, people don't just into success and if you're not going to give context and use context when speaking about the people you deem inferior you're just biased, at worst dishonest.

>>9832347
You're not very good at expressing your ideas, are you?

>>9832359
Wow buddy great conversation, good job.

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>>9827929
Go to r*ddit. They'll gobble up your nigger garbage with great pleasure. Don't give up, considering the current state of the West you can easily become a successful "author". The moment a nigger writes something American cucks will gladly jump on it. Just make sure you have a strong racism/colonialism theme in it.
>pic related: you'll see multiple bitches reading this shit in any NYC train

>>9832598
based nigger anon

>>9828295
I'm not whining, I'm just positing that negative reactions on here are frequently shitposting.

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>>9827929

it's rare but possible Anon

pro tip: you have to sneak the social commentary into the fantasy

>>9827929
I'd read Afro fantasy