/lit/men who died virgins

>>9825946
David Foster Wallace

>>9825946
Henry James.

>>9825946
>pursuit of craft
Is that an euphemism for autism?

>>9825946
Lewis Carroll, and I think I read Kant was above that shit

Leopardi

>>9825946
Franz Kafka

monks, priests

>>9825950
what about 'audience pussy'?

>>9826257
I suspect that the widespread use of the word 'autist' is just a psyop to shame everyone who isn't a mindless consumerist and is actually creating or studying something to its full extent.

Kierkegaard

Elliot Rodger

>>9827052
cant dodge the rodge

Immanuel Kant

getting a prostitute still doesn't count as losing your virginity. Sorry guys, but seriously get your shit together.

>>9827073
I've done both. Prostitutes certainly count, what the fuck are you talking about?

Borges
>>9827073
lol what, of course it counts

>>9825946
Is this actually proved? I always heard this information but how can we be so sure it is true?

>>9827073
Only a woman can have such an opinion.

>>9826238
Is this true???

Kierkegaard and Hans Christian Anderson, bitter enemies, apparently, but they had that much in common...

>>9825946
I think Wittgenstein would fit that, he never had a wife or a lover as far as I know and dedicated his life to art and humanities.

>>9827073
so having sex with someone I don't love means I'm a virgin?

>>9826306
Kafka was a fucking pussy slayer.

>>9827163
He had some gay lovers.

>>9827188
Wittgenstein was gay? I don't believe that, he even converted to christianism in a brief period of his life.

Freud

>>9827196
He was quite neurotic about it, if that's a consolation for you. He was neurotic about everything, though.

>>9827220
I want a source on this if you don't mind...

>>9827234
It's discussed in Monk's biography of Wittgenstein and probably the other biographies as well. The people in question are Francis Skinner and Ben Richards.

>>9827169

No, but your inability to obtain a women through your own devices, and having to cheat through money means you'll still be a virgin.

Would you go out and rent a corvette, and then go around bragging that you owned one?

>>9827515
this analogy is fucking stupid

you wouldn't go around bragging that you owned a corvette because you didnt own it but rent it.

if you had sex you aren't a virgin, regardless of your relationship to the woman with whom you had sex.

>>9827234
It's not a debate. The guy liked dicks

>>9827523
Losing your virginity, in a male sense at least, is about accomplishment. It's about graduating from a dorky little scared kid, to a capable, assertive man who's able to obtain the things he desires.

You don't get that by remaining a scared little twerp, who waits until he's in his mid twenties to get a drug addicted craigslist whore to service him for 15 minutes.

>>9827515
No one 'obtains' a woman, you don't own a girl even if you convinced her to fuck you. This analogy is awful because you drove a car regardless whether it's your own or rented.

>>9827540
>No one 'obtains' a woman

Speak for yourself, loser.

>>9827539
>all those fucking spooks

Virginity is putting penis in vagina, everything else you mentioned (which is very convenient to you) is secondary to the concept of the word.

>>9827196
And yes he was gay

The author of my journal

>>9827551
so gay guy's don't lose their virginity ever?

>>9827515
So are rich guys all virgins too?

>>9827573
depends on your sexuality. straight guy who got sparred up the ass is still virgin, assuming he really wasn't gay

>>9827586

If a rich white guy has never actually had consensual sex with someone, sure.

Also kind of an ignorant statement assuming all rich white guys have too stoop to prostitution, but that's to be expected with your childish, virgin view of the world.

>>9827587
What about a gay guy that fucks a girl? What if she is a reverse trap?

>>9827592
I have to know: What compelled you to write the word "white" there? "Rich white guys"? What made you think about race in the context of rich people buying prostitutes?

>>9827573
Don't play dumb, what counts is the sex itself not some vague coming of age related with it.

What if it's three people, two guys and a girl, and the dude kind of just nervously watches while the other guy rails her. But at some point the girl waves the guy over and shoves a finger up his ass, but that's it?

>>9827608
Spoken like a true virgin, bro. And it's totally the same thing if an actualized guy works on a girl and get him to like him enough that she screws him, and some sad lonely 29 year old who pays a street walking burn victim to screw him for half a minute before he sprays onto her scabies patch belly.

Lowering the bar doesn't make the goal more meaningful, dude. It actually makes it way less meaningful. Not that sex in itself is even highly meaningful to real people, but this shows how bad off you are that you're really struggling with these even basic accomplishments everyone else has little problem with in their development.

>>9827593
in the first case, the man is not a virgin. A man who has fucked a woman is never a virgin.

in the second case, I'd say he's still a virgin. He's fucking a biological male with an open wound for a cunt. Assuming he's gay, he's not attracted to this particular "guy," and he is thus still a virgin. Liking the guy you're fucking is a requirement for a gay-virginity loss

t. knower

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>>9827551
>spooks
kys

>>9827626
*preferring the sex you're fucking

>>9827625
Truly isn't the same thing, I agree, but that's not what we are talking about here, we are talking about the meaning of the word 'virgin' and whether you're a fat loser or a rich Chad if you had sex you're not a virgin, that's it.

>>9825946
me in about 10 minutes

>>9827647
Don't kill yourself lad.

>>9827642

You can keep telling yourself that, doesn't matter. In about 5 years when you finally work up the courage to bang a whore, you'll find out for yourself that it doesn't make any difference. You'll still feel just as bad.

Because....what you're after isn't just putting your penis in a vigina, broham.

>>9827655
Dude, what the fuck are you smoking? Are you a triggered tumblrina by any chance? Virginity isn't some arbitrary standard you have to meet like proving some sort of value to a girl, it's the COITUS.

>>9827073

Is this a kantian interpretation of virginity?

>>9827626
But a reverse trap is a biological woman dressed as a man, not vic versa.

>>9827669
yeah exactly, it's the arbitrary lowered standard which YOU set.

>>9827073

this is true, losing one's virginity only really means something if it was done with someone with their consent and without money being a factor. The only people who would argue are virtually all ugly manlets who haven't had sex without trading a franklin for it

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>>9827676
Yeah, you are definitely not setting an subjective standard of value yourself huh? At least I'm sticking with something factual and that is closer to the definition of the word

You're a just another invading shill trying to disrupt this board, GTFO.

>>9826309
Please

>>9827671
oh, sorry, mixed trap and trans...

that does indeed count; for both gay and straight people, actually

>>9827688

If you ever actually had sex, you might notice that the simple act of putting your penis in a vagina actually isn't that big of a deal. Go fuck a dead cow vagina or something if you don't think so, that should count as losing your virginity according to your standards btw.

Sex is much more of a mental thing, that kind of depends on the two people actually being very into it in order to make it work. If one person is hungover and three month pregnant from some other poor loser, and is only there because a new loser is paying them half his disability check to be there, then you're missing out on not only the majority of the physical experience of sex, but also the relationship and courting rituals and such that go along with it that are way more rewarding and also important to experience for one's growth as a person.

So...you could do it that way and attempt to think you're somehow achieving something, but it's not going to change anything in your sad little shithole of a life.

>>9827727
>sex is a mental thing
>courting rituals
>passive-aggressiveness
>bitterness
>name calling
Ah, so you're a triggered tumblrina indeed.
Virginity ISN'T a big deal. Now kindly fuck off.

>>9827727
>So...

This in itself proves you are a triggered girl.

>>9827727
You're so so so wrong.

>>9827737
>Ah, so you're a triggered tumblrina indeed

Sure, whatever. Don't know what that means, but if it makes you feel better.

>Virginity ISN'T a big deal. Now kindly fuck off.

It's not a big deal to adults who actually lost it at the normal times people do. We tend to think of it as a pretty simple, and eventually meaningless thing, as it's as natural as losing your baby teeth to most people. But that's not you, now is it?

>>9827757
Yes, that's me, I'm a 29 year old man in a happy relationship. Very typical of your kind to turn objective discussions about the meaning of a word into a gossip TV program.

>>9827737
>it's just benis in bagina, man, there's nothing big to it :-DDDD

t. Marcus Aurelius

This sperg freaking out about fucking prostitutes was in another thread just a few days ago. They're obsessed.

>>9827767
>happy relationship

happy relationships are things that teenagers get in for 3 months. No adult actually in one would refer to them like this.

>>9827775
>>9827775
There's only teenager here and that's you, someone nuke this thread already.

>>9827073
So Hunter S Thompson was a virgin?

>>9825946
me (soon)

>>9827788
Well he actually had consensual sex along the way, so no, wonderboy.

>>9827767
>I'm a 29 year old man in a happy relationship
I envy
I can never be happy in a relationship because I am selfish and want the girl to disappear until I am horny again

>>9827793
>Hunter S Thompson
>consensual sex
Hilarious my nigga, but it ain't consensual if they on meth.

>>9827798

Oh, so you're mom's still a virgin then?

>>9825946
>implying
>dishonoring the name of a great contributor to the enlightenment of humanity

All of you need to die. He was not a virgin, he practiced celibacy to pursue his work unhampered.

being a virgin = not having sex ever
not being a virgin = having sex at least once
it doesn't matter what you feel you faggots or how attached you are

why do you think so many girls complain how they feel bad about their first time? they never say they are not virgins because they didn't love the guy lmao kys

>>9827797
Well, at least you know the reason why you are single.

>>9827804
Yes, I'm the second coming.

>>9827812
I am not single, I have a gf of almost 2 years but I feel suffocated and the relationship is shit because I just don't try to compromise nor do I sacrifice anything for the sake of relationship.

But I also hate myself for being such a man and I wish I was different. Too bad I am too autistic. I will literally die alone, being bitter, knowing I had many chances of leading what's usually regarded as a nice life by the society, but instead chose to blow it all.

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I'm going to die a virgin.

>>9827835
It seems like you are not ready for a relationship then,unless you live for the other person and their own dreams then it's going to be awful for both of you.

I feel like I fucked up by having sex back when I was 20. I haven't been able to get laid again and I'm 23. If I can't have sex regularly I'd rather be able to be a wizard. I was pretty close to becoming a wizard, too.

>>9827844
Nah dude, aren't you paying attention? Just fuck some whore and everything will be magically better.

>>9827848
>It seems like you are not ready for a relationship then
I hope you are right. I sometimes think I am forcing it myself.

having sex is overrated

>>9825946
>Isaac Newton was a virgin

I guess this explains the alchemy and astrology. Mother fucker had magical powers.

>>9827855
won't be beter but he won't be a virgin anymore and won't get weird looks if nothing else

>>9827856
Exactly, it shouldn't be forced, you should do it because you feel like doing it for her and you love her. It's not going to be pleasant and a walk in the park most of the time but it's worth it.
The Hollywood romance most people think relationships are isn't the whole story, and in the age of smartphones and whatnot they are so engrossed in their own little virtual worlds that they forget about meaningful connections.

>>9827873

Yeah exactly, when he pays a streetwalker to fuck him and he starts crying halfway because it's a frightening experience, everyone will stop looking at him like he's weird or something.

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>>9827855
Virginity is spiritual, not worth wasting on a whore. There's statistics which show the more partners the less stable relationships.

>>9827886
>the more partners the less stable relationships

wew

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>>9827886
>the more partners the less stable relationships.

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>>9827913
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>>9827942
What does stable mean? Have you ever considered that maybe the virgins were indoctrinated by religion to bear a shitty marriage because reasons?

>>9827968
Doesn't matter. The virgins in this thread are so inept they can't even use religion to force a women into mating with them.

>>9827968
Or maybe riding the cock carousel ruins a woman's ability to emotionally attach herself to men, and vice versa for men.

>muh religious indoctrination
fuck off m8

>>9827987
Maybe an inability to emotionally attach to men results in riding the cock carousel. Then you must ask why men are so hard to get attached to, then you read your own posts.

>>9827073
What if some guy fucks a prostitute and gets her pregnant? Would she go around telling people the father is a virgin? Or maybe some guy is waiting till marriage to have sex with his wife yet he still fucks dozens of hookers in the meantime. Would his wife still consider him a virgin on their wedding night? It's kind of a stupid argument.

>>9827162
Kierkegaard is known to have fucked a prostitute at least once desu.

STOP REPLYING TO THE SHILLS

>>9827997
>Would she go around telling people the father is a virgin?

No, the baby would just die from fetal alcohol syndrome or end up in a Panera Bread bathroom toilet or something.

>>9827999
yeah, and people were never looking at him like he was weird and constantly talked about how less pathetic he was after.

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>>9827968
It's divorce risk, and even if you control religiosity it still shows the same correlation. Also the divorce risk gap is increasing despite the US being more secular.

Being a virgin or not is considered such a big deal because sex helps the poor reproduce. If you have more poor and dumb people, you have more cheap work force.
The powerful and rich capitalists prefer people to consider virginity as a big deal because they want more people to reproduce and so they lower production costs!

>>9827995
>Maybe an inability to emotionally attach to men results in riding the cock carousel
That no doubt is the case in some situations.

>Then you must ask why men are so hard to get attached to
In some cases it's women growing up with a shitty or absent father. In most cases, it's because the women have whored around and ruined themselves emotionally.

>>9828081
The jews are trying to erode the judeo-christian family unit by promoting promiscuity and womens' rights.

>>9828081
>>9828113
>Marxists and NatSocs talking across narratives

It's 1930 all over again.

>>9827607
because you're being baited. as if it wasn't obviois enough before

zizek will die a virgin

Fernando Pessoa is the best example

>>9827727

He's unfortunately right.

Please have some mercy for virgins though

>>9828241
He has a kid and a wife.

>>9828306
Please kill yourselves, and save me the trouble of organizing death squads.

>>9827727

Read online reviews of escorts. They're all pretty hilarious as all the guys complain that the women obviously wasn't into them and they were rushed and the encounter wasn't that good anyway, and the girl didn't connect with them on a personal level.

Like...no shit dude, you're banging a prostitute who doesn't want to be there. If you want something better maybe you should try this real gf thing.

>>9827163
He had a homoerotic relationship, it's pretty well known.

>>9825946
Kant.

>>9827234
Do a google search dumbo, I believe there are published correspondance or diary/journal notes about his gay relationships.

>>9827670
I smiled a little

>>9827540
take your fedora off.

isaac newton didn't die a virgin tho, when he was put in charge of the mint he had an affair with some milf, sorry nerds but he was just a late bloomer

>>9827540
why can't those fucking bitches see what a nice guy you are?! it's not fair!

>>9826306
WRONG. Not only slayed but went to whorehouses too

>>9827196
Him being gay is the most pertinent part to a literary understanding of his work.

I've lost all desire to have sex at 22. I really just don't care. I think my dick really gave up, I don't even watch porn anymore or even want to.

>>9828905
You're so fat you can't reach it anymore, huh?

>>9828905
Lemme guess, they put you on anti-depressants

>>9828941
No, I've just started taking a lot of these mexican pill that I think are vicodin, because I can't afford the name brand street ones anymore.

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>>9825946
>pursuit of craft
You are in deny son.

>>9828941
Nope. Never would take em anyway
>>9828910
Fitlit so no

>>9825946
I'd be curious to know if Robert E. Howard died a virgin. That man was /fitlit/ incarnate. Not very well rounded, however. Also
>hide atrocious post
>2/3 or thread vanishes

>>9828038
>roasting intensifies

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>>9827073
So Joseph was a prostitute?

>>9828910
kekd harder than i should

>>9828946
i read /lit/ and i almost forget that im on 4chan until i read a post like yours. never change faggots

>>9827159
dude couldnt get his dick up. true story

>>9829046
no, he was the ultimate cuck. Really should have a modern church devoted to him.

>>9827073
But anon, all women prostitute themselves.

They give prime pussy and fresh eggs for the safety in later life once both are gone, while the man invests shekels to provide and show off his ability to provide. Whores are just more honest about it.

>>9827999
he probably just had a trembling cup of tea and an awkward chat, knowing that lad.

>>9829211
>the biggest religion on Earth was founded on a lie a girl had to tell her husband about her illegitimate son