what does this word mean?

nothing

>>9792909
Whatever whoever's using it wants it to mean.

>>9792916
source?

>>9792909
Incredulity towards metanarratives.

It's what western art and philosophy devolve into when jews are put in charge of European institutions.

>>9792909
postmodernism is a codeword for white genocide

>>9792909
After modernism

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>>9792961
>>9792949

>>9792909
A critique of, response to, examination of, and/or play on the modernist movement of a given field.
that's it.

>>9792949
the sad part is it's only a matter of time before they find a way to control the internet and stop people from talking about the jq, either that or it will be finally be the end of the "long jewish century"

>>9792991
Goy.. easy on the hatred

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>>9792991
They already control it in western Europe. White English men are getting jailed for tweeting while muslim rapists walk free, and the jew Annetta Kahane, a former stasi agent, is in charge of policing hate speech in Germany.

Their system is weaker than they let on though, which is why they're going so hard on forcing third world immigration on us now. It will fall, but whites need to make sure we're in a position to pick up the pieces and gas these kikes for good when it does.

>>9792983
being a nazi is begining to look like the most patrician option givent that the left seems bent on reducing us all to genderless, cultureless, raceless, wheelchair bound polyamorous blobs with an iq of 30 all in the name of equality and feminism. Cultural Marxism is real, it is the leftist cult of victimhood, disease and perversion, of the abnormal and the abhorrent. The repudiation of Mankind's finer elements for the benefit of the almighty victim: the transgender disabled pedosexual autistic diabetic sadomasochist genderqueer muslim crustpunk who also happens to wear a full burka as the Quran wills it. this is the future leftists want for your children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Bm_wiRT24

>>9792909
It's really not that hard to understand

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>>9793022
Don't kid yourself, being a Nazi is a postmodern meme

>>9793054
the best part about that piece was that like 90% of those dude are actually jews

>>9792926

>Incredulity towards metanarratives.

The only good reply in this post. And it only applies to postmodern philosophy, not so much art and literature.

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>>9793022

>>9793022
pure ideology

>>9792983
on a purely aesthetic level, i find national socialism more convincing than whatever's on tv.
Leftists are Letzer Mensch creating a world that denies Man's will to power and ultimately life itself. If there is future for art, for beauty, for honor and human achievement, this future lies with fascism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBXoXB3QvyI

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>>9793070
>pure aesthetics

You like the lines?

>>9792909
Postmodernism is the questioning of the foundations of value systems, and has understandably, for example, eroded the basis of aesthetic value in favour of cultural representation because of its claim that the value of aesthetic merit is a Western concept, and hence has no basis when comparing works of other cultures. In essence, it is a black hole.

>>9792909
Progress is a meme

>>9793079
you gotta source for that buddy?

>>9793091
It checks out honestly except the claim that it's 'essentially a black hole' which is an opinion

>>9793091
>>9793098
Also not sure about 'erosion' since questioning doesn't necessarily result in erosion. The foundations of aesthetic theory aren't that weak

>>9793079
It's really little more than the jewish inversion of European cultural norms and value systems. The jews have been doing this in their host nations for millennia, and it's the reason they got kicked out of Egypt way back when -- "normative inversion."

https://www.counter-currents.com/2014/06/moses-the-egyptian/

This is a jewish ethnic strategy to weaken the host population and promote themselves to power. That's all postmodernism is and ever was.

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>>9793120
t. sage

>>9793120
Wrong, Europeans just invert Jewish cultural norms and value systems.

>>9793120
also don't forget jewish (and islamic) art forbids making representations of gods or men or anything that could be an "idol" so now everything is "abstract" in accordance with jewish law which wasn't hard to do since all the museum directors and art dealers are jews (and occasionally bored arabs with too much money)

>>9793125
Aww ... aren't the true believers of postmodernism cute?

The actually think it's real...

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>>9793127
>all new things are abstract
>t. Doesn't know shit about the state of the arts
Pic related is a painting

>>9793078
I work with a bunch of normies who unironically bitch about banalities like PoCWoC representation in netflix's original series. I prefer fascist fantasies of violent annihilation to the void of modernity. probably just means i'm still human.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxZwNVcdGR4

>>9793079
You have just described modernism, not postmodernism

>>9793127
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=&search_text="jewish+inversion"

Can't believe you've been at this for at least two months

>>9793164
Page isn't loading.

>>9793068
do communists really believe marxism won't degenerate into sharia transgender dystopia within a generation? the majority of leftists are shrieking self flagellating sjws who believe in nothing but the eternal guilt of the white male.

>>9793155
interesting that the galleries that present him appear at least on cursory inspection to be goy owned operations

>>9793193
Not even interesting Christ I thought you said they were all owned by Jews or arabs. You did fucking say that. Your narrative is ignorant. Maybe try actually looking into art before you characterize it in broad strokes to conform to your pathetic victimization fantasy. You are a cuck and a philistine.

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>>9793154
t. sage

>>9793164
At what? Exposing jews like you? You starting to sweat, Shlomo?

>>9793189
>sharia
>transgender

?

>>9793200
I'm white, don't be dishonest

>>9793203
leftists don't even have a coherent ideology they just want to promote stuff that is gross and degenerate

>>9793208
>i'm white

no one believes that for a second

>>9793208
Do you have an excuse for counter-signaling other whites and defending a tribe of outsiders with disproportionate control over your nation's institutions?

>>9793161
Postmodernism is skepticism of meta-narratives and the notion of objective morality and even faith in human reason and potential. I am not wrong in describing postmodernism as questioning.

The erosion of aesthetic value in favour of cultural representation is not Modernist. It is Postmodernist, and it is the reason for the decrying of the Western Canon in Ivy League universities.

>>9793222
Do you have an excuse for posting non-/lit/ related material on /lit/?

>>9793220
Why do you type like tumblr?

>>9793230
given the current state of the academy, anything beyond queer PoCWoC victimhood and the evil of white men is soon going to count as non-/lit/ material

>>9793241
Nah we discuss right-wing literature here. If you were white you would be aware of the rules and have a willingness to accept them

>>9793230
I literally answered the question in the OP. You're not very bright, are you? Perhaps that is why you do foolish things like counter-signal the people trying to educate you and defend the people who hate you. I can't do much for stupid, kid.

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>>9793246
>we
What a sniveling collectivist shill you are

>>9793254
>I literally answered the question in the OP.

For the past two months? Yes I'm counter-signalling by linking to every time you've said "jewish inversion" on /lit/. If you think that pointing out the lack of development in your argument in such a long period (probably due to a lack of reading) means I'm 'counter-signalling' then I think that speaks to how you perceive the quality of your argument. You know you're being a dishonest shit

@9793262
(You)

>>9793270
well nietzsche wrote plenty about this so it's on topic like it or not

>>9793279
Nietzsche said a lot of things

>>9793270
It's very important that white people more shrewd than yourself understand how jewish people think. If they are under the impression that postmodernism is anything more than a jewish inversion of European values and culture, I am going to inform them that they are incorrect and show them why they are wrong. People are free to challenge my argument with ideas and data; unfortunately, there are dimwitted losers like yourself who cannot make them but still, mistakenly, believe they have something to say.

>>9793309
Well try not to invert /lit/ culture and values in the process

>>9793337
If you can't learn to listen to what people like me are trying to explain to mentally enslaved people like yourself, you will never have anything beyond this little safe space.

>>9793366
If you presented your arguments in a manner other than raving lunatic you'd probably get better results. There's a reason why Kevin B. MacDonald wrote a whole series of books rather than saying 'look at Egypt, now look at today'. But yes I'm mentally enslaved and not shrewd and whatever you're trying to convince me I am. Whatever works.

>>9793217
or
maybe "leftists" consists of millions of people with differing opinions and not some hivemind meme that you can tack on singular beliefs to

>>9793366
>>9793377

dubs cancel and u have to call a truce, just become a catholic and support your fellow christians whenever possible, the end

I thought I was on /lit/ but this must be /pol/ whoopsie

>>9793309
>they are under the impression that postmodernism is anything more than a jewish inversion of European values and culture
I fail to see a connection between Jews subverting European culture and postmodern literature, if you could make that connection with clarity and evidence it would be very appreciated

>>9793377
Raving lunatic? I don't call people faggots or tell them to kill themselves; I'm always respectful and use proper grammar and punctuation. What you do is whine and make excuses for why you aren't educated on the topics you are pretending to be familiar with. This is about you, not me. Can you change and become an informed, intellectually minded thinker, or will you continue to complain and remain in the dark? That's the question you should try to address.

>>9793065
I would say it does apply to art. Haven't read pomo literature enough to say. However, you could say that art became postmodern a lot earlier if we keep that distinction.

>>9793399
Postmodern literature, or postmodern thought, is often concerned with the dethroning of the Western model in favour of multicultural narratives, irrespective of aesthetic merit. They see aesthetic merit, as we know it, to be mere narratives propounded by Western history, and hence, should lose their relevancy in favour of under-privileged minority systems and views. That is why the Western Canon is being challenged.

The grand conspiracy, so to speak, is that the Jews were the forerunners of postmodernism because of their influence in the ideas of Marxism and the Frankfurt School, and are said to have taken control of academia to accelerate the dethroning of the Western Tradition.

>>9793399
Sure. Let's look at postmodern philosophy first. Whereas European philosophy is traditionally concerned with discovering meaning and truth, jewish postmodern philosophy tries to say that there is no meaning or truth, or that it's all subjective to breakdown any hierarchy. Postmodern literature is similar in that is often represents or is concerned with a loss of identity and nihilism, which is the inverse of European literature as a tool for self-discovery and creating an ideal or positive society. Jews have promoted these new "values" through academic and other institutional realms because it has a negative effect, spiritual and otherwise, on their host society.

>>9793414
You don't know anything about me and you don't care to. You thought I was Jewish because I was 'counter-signalling' by linking to your past arguments, fucking lol.

The point is I could be educated on the Jews, I could not be, but regardless you are stepping out of line and acting dishonest which are not accepted traits of whites

>>9793443
If you act jewish, you shouldn't be surprised if you are mistaken for a jew. I agree that dishonesty is a not a trait of whites but you have presented no evidence of where I've been dishonest.

>>9793439
>tfw Spinoza was a Jew

>>9793460
You got rattled and you called me a Jew to try and regain control of the conversation. You've been combative and defensive ever since that moment. You know what you're up to.

>>9793438
you don't know what postmodern literature is.
>>9793439
>Let's look at postmodern philosophy first
pomo philosophy and pomo lit are not connected; postmodernism is the approach the the given field or medium.
see >>9792987.
>Postmodern literature is similar in that is often represents or is concerned with a loss of identity
This is a very much modernist theme. Read almost any modernist novel and this theme is prevalent.
>and nihilism
I'm being perfectly honest in saying that I have never read a novel with genuinely nihilistic themes, or that seemed to support the nihilist philosophy; all of the pomo I've read has been life affirming, although I have to grant you that much of it contains criticism of certain systems and traditions.
I think you're pushing a false dichotomy into your perspective and it stems from a misconception of postmodernism.
There is completely anti-traditional modernist works in any and every field as well as pro-traditional postmodern works. It's a methodology, not an ideology

>>9793470
Yep, you can't get more life-affirming than criticism of the institutions that deny life. Postmodernism is positive but when it is adopted by those institutions it becomes oppressive, hence the postmodernist critique of those institutions we see again from the right. Pomo is an extention of the classical liberalist project and has everything to do with re-aligning the Western tradition to its core values (that have otherwise been subverted in history, namely the 19th century i.e. modernism) to understand what has gone wrong with realising that intellectual project in the past.

>>9793469
I think you suffer from delusion. You're no concern to me. You're the one who remembered me and hunted down old posts. That's weird behavior. I was simply making fun of you for it here: >>9793200

>>9793479
We'll let everyone who can see your old posts decide who is suffering from delusion. It might be the guy repeating literally the same thing for months on end.

>>9793470
>pomo philosophy and pomo lit are not connected
Of course they're connected. It's foolish to state otherwise.

>I think you're pushing a false dichotomy into your perspective and it stems from a misconception of postmodernism

No ... I think it's quite obviously you who doesn't understand it very well. Start with McHale's book, that should provide you with an entry-level understanding of the discussion here.

>>9793489
You are weird for looking up people's posts. Period. I have no issue with them, or even with you directing people toward them, and am happy to repeat myself if it helps others gain a better understanding of jewish machinations.

>>9793478
>you can't get more life-affirming than criticism of the institutions that deny life
Would you care to share a passage from a postmodern novel where you've read this? I could certainly name more than several modernist novel that do.
>Postmodernism is positive but when it is adopted by those institutions
What institutions? Also pomo is not positive, it is neutral.
>Pomo is an extention of the classical liberalist project and has everything to do with re-aligning the Western tradition to its core values (that have otherwise been subverted in history, namely the 19th century i.e. modernism) to understand what has gone wrong with realising that intellectual project in the past.
Postmodernism is a response to modernism, and that's all it is. It doesn't work in concert with itself, it's not an ideology, it's not charged with positive or negative connotation, it's just a methodology. I can't help but think that you have absolutely no understanding of any artistic medium.
when you're watching The Office and a character looks directly in the camera with a facial expression that's a postmodern film technique.
When DFW gives you an onslaught of entertaining and oddly specific digressing footnotes, that's a postmodern literature technique.
Emphasizing a beautiful image by contrasting it against an ugly backdrop? Postmodern imagery.
Contemporary homes with adobe reminiscent of modernist Mexican homes? Postmodern architecture.
Postmodernism has nothing to do with Jews or the right/left dichotomy or politics or any of the stupid shit you project onto it.

>>9793470
>>9793478
Pray tell what postmodernism is. Give a definition to end all definitions so that we don't have to have these PoMo threads anymore.

>>9793523 see >>9792987
This thread should not have made it this far.

>>9793496
>Of course they're connected. It's foolish to state otherwise.
Postmodernist literature stems from modernist literature just as it precedes metamodernist literature, although it's not as linear as all that. the "subject" of pomo literature is modernist literature. Pomo lit is not a vehicle for pomo philosophy's ideas. If you've read any it would be starkly obvious and we wouldn't be having this dumbass conversation.

Read literally any modernist work. Something tells me you'd be surprised to find it's not European traditionalist propaganda and in fact is often critical of such

>>9793527
Then define Modernism so that we can close this thread.

>>9793155
woah really exposes the truth about white privilege. banksy would be proud

>>9793547
Modernism is theory derived from an enlightenment period that is applied to such.
So enlightenment says "hey check out this new thing" (painting, film, literature, knitting, etc.) it's new, experimental, and generally kind of bad because we're just figuring out what the thing is
Modernism says "alright we've been doing this for a while, here's what we this the best way to do it". This is where the artform explodes in a direction and is often regarded as it's golden age. We've figured out what the thing is and theory is formed, that's the mark of modernism. theory, structure, composition, etc.
Then postmodernism comes in and says "is it that the best way? What if we did it like THIS instead? What if we did this new technique instead of that old technique? Why do we do X instead of Y when Y seems to be more effective? I like X about modernism, here's a different angle on it called X2. Also, everything modernism thought about this or that is wrong or misinformed.
And then metamodernism comes in and says "thanks for the information, pomo, even though half of it was retarded" (pomo is inherently bad like 75% of the time) then reforms the modernist movement of developing theory with the new information and techniques derived from the pomo period.
BUT IT ISN'T THAT LINEAR. they overlap and shit, and often skip movements altogether

>>9793546
The same themes are prevalent in both postmodern philosophy and literature, and there's a reason for that. We're talking about an ideology here, and one that was instituted from the top down to the point where it is now thoroughly woven into the fabric of every humanities discipline. You seem to think we're talking about an organic force that transitioned by way of its own here, when nothing could be further from the truth.

Please consult McHale's book on postmodern literature as I advised. You're out of the loop on the basics here.

>>9793510
You're weird for posting the same thing for two months. You specifically single out threads on postmodernism to do it, too. And if you have no issue with them, why do you claim I was counter-signalling and therefore a Jew? What a joke.

>>9793578
Thank you

>>9793518
I'm not the guy who was talking about the Jews, I was agreeing with you.

>>9793523
There are definitions given nearly every time this thread is given. A definition doesn't stop these threads from being made. The people who make them don't even read the wiki article

>>9793587
>two months
So that maybe in two years, once you've matured a little and hit your first single with some fine gal, something will click.

>>9793601
someone make a starter kit or something so it can just be posted when the thread is young

>>9793608
Maybe once you're matured you'll see how dishonest and deluded you are. These are non-arguments. Please stop posting non-arguments.

>>9793622
I made an argument, you whined and looked up old posts because you're a weirdo, and that's about as far as this exchange ever got. You're white, stop acting creepy and take the loss like a man.

>>9793645
Yes, whites = good, Jews = bad is an outstanding argument. Look at Egypt, look at now. You've convinced everyone -- thanks for playing.

>>9793653
I'll try again: my argument here is that there is a documented jewish group evolutionary strategy where they invert the norms and values of their host population. There is documentation of this going back to Egypt, where jews were kicked out for practicing what leading Egyptologist Jan Assmann describes as "normative inversion." What was sacred when jews came to power, was desacrilized; the polytheism the Egyptians engaged in was replaced with monotheism, etc. I extrapolate this concept using postmodernism -- the ideas of which have been promoted heavily by jews in the postwar era -- as a modern example of this behavior, though we can also point to the jewish promotion of homosexuality and other inversions of traditional norms to back it up.

Now your counter-argument please?

>>9792983
>"alt-right"
>based milo
>trump
>muh identity politics

>>9793689
Let's see how you are using rhetoric rather than speaking a truth:
>the ideas of which
What ideas? You've defined them as inversions rather than using any examples
>promoted heavily
What constitutes 'promotion'? A belief? A non-belief used for certain gain? Does promotion follow the development of the ideas? If so, who developed postmodern ideas initially? Was it just Derrida? Why are there so many non-Jewish postmodern theorists? Etc.
>jewish promotion of homosexuality
Homosexuality just exists. Arguably it's as Western as anything else the Greeks gave us. It has its benefits and its setbacks.
>other inversions of traditional norms to back it up
Like what? You haven't backed up anything.

This leads to my initial point, rather than offering a counter-narrative which I guess is what you think the search for truth is instead of looking at evidence. Regardless of whether you are right or not, the way you argue your point is repetitive, dishonest, lacking insight, unfalsifiable, and not at all constructive. You can claim I'm not educated in the way of the Jew or whatever, but this is you making excuses for why you can't think. That's how it will always look unless you actually adopt Western practices, i.e. formal logic, instead of just talking about them. You're doing Western ideas a huge disservice.

It would be easier to ignore you but the reason why I'm telling you this is because I believe it to be true. I value nothing more than maintaining Western traditions and I see postmodernism as a part of that rather than an inversion. You are not maintaining the tradition.

>>9793744
>I see postmodernism as a part of that rather than an inversion.
Well, this is where the problem, and your defensiveness, stems from: postmodernism is not a western system, it's a jewish system.

>What ideas?
I addressed some of these earlier, here: >>9793439

European philosophy and jewish postmodern philosophy are very distinct, and the latter is almost a direct inversion of the main concepts. They're fundamentally opposites.

>What constitutes 'promotion'? A belief? A non-belief used for certain gain? Does promotion follow the development of the ideas? If so, who developed postmodern ideas initially? Was it just Derrida? Why are there so many non-Jewish postmodern theorists? Etc.

Jewish postmodernism stems from various non-jewish thinkers like Nietzsche, because jews are semites and therefore not very innovative on their own. What they often do is take ideas they believe will benefit their group and promote those through their over-representation at the institutional level in places like academia, which is where postmodernism really spread from. Derrida is a big part of that, but jews were planting the anti-cultural seeds of postmodernism/nihilism into western culture long before he ever came around, so people came along thinking it was revolutionary, which is the impression you are mistakenly under. Example: the beatniks in the 40s and 50s were promoted by the jewish publishing industry to attack mainstream white American culture at the time. This is the anti-culture jews create and promote: the normative inversion.

The tenets of postmodernism arose out of things like that then were pushed further and further as jewish institutional power expanded and replaced that of the WASP class.

>jewish promotion of homosexuality
I should have said 'normalization.' Google 'Joe Biden + jews + homosexuality' to see an admission of this at the highest level. No lack of info here either.

I could go on, but your hangup is that you think postmodernism is real and an extension of the western tradition when it's not. That's why you got defensive. But I'll reiterate, the only issue regards your willingness to look into the information. Didn't you mention the Culture of Critique? That goes into detail about what we're talking about. Give it a shot. It's just a book, it won't hurt you.

there is a 0% chance that jordan peterson fans have actually read foucault, derrida, lyotard, nancy and co

>>9793022
>wheelchair bound polyamorous blob

10/10

>>9792909
http://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/hicks-ep-full.pdf

>>9793018
Lol I wonder why hate speech laws are so strict in Germany.

Must be cause of those oppressive jews

Cancer

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>>9792983
>Claim that people are controlled by elite.
>WAHOO GO BERNIE
>Point out they're disproportionately of the Jewish race.
>NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>9794016
>Stephen Hicks

>>9793830
It's an extension of the Western system as you admit here:
>Jewish postmodernism stems from various non-jewish thinkers like Nietzsche
And as an extension of the Western system I in no way suggest it is 'revolutionary' as you say, and I don't appreciate you mischaracterising my argument for any sort of gain in the conversation.

Mind posting something by Derrida that says there is no meaning or truth? SJWs seem to think there is a truth. Postmodernism is predicated on the idea that it is right and true.

And where does Spinoza fit into this? Rationalism is an inversion of Western values?

To what degree can Jews be said to undermine Western values? Western values are still very much true when you're over 30. Are drugs being promoted? Well look at anti-smoking campaigns and a general absence of smoking in media. Is this European ethnonationalism, hence why Hitler was a non-smoker? Why are drug-addicts looked down upon in society? Why do people know that partying hard after a certain age is inherently negative?

It sounds like instead that since the 50s and 60s the boomer kids had a lot of money to throw about due to the proliferation of material wealth in the US so companies started marketing towards them. Kids are dumb, they like fun, and they have money. Appealing to kids is why culture is so dumb and 'degenerate' today even though when they grow up they adapt to Western values anyway.

>But I'll reiterate, the only issue regards your willingness to look into the information.

A non-argument. Your issue is that you don't know the tenets of postmodernism, and you mischaracterise them when you say it's nihilism. It's a way of combating nihilism by looking at the genealogy of ideas, which means you need to look at how our traditions are constructed and adapt them to the immediate context rather than do away with them.

Give me an exact timeline of specific events relating to the development and promotion of postmodernism.

>>9792909
what comes after Modernism

>>9792961
alt-right is post-modern

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>>9792909
it mean people dont know shit abt modernism

neonazis prefer to blame modern day moral relativism on the frankfurt school rather than the french pomo philosophers because it'd ruin their "jews control everything" narrative

>>9795171
Your conflating two difference things, back to /leftypol/ with you.

>>9792909
after modernism

>>9792909
french aids faggots

DAMN NEOMARXISTS

>>9793022
why do leftists do this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rZ_sR3KS34

>>9795860
#stoptheleft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzBGTAvKfPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHZ9SwTk2UE

You don't have to be a Nazi or even right wing to counter leftist postmodern ideologues.

>>9795171
And jews like to pretend there's such a thing as a "neonazi."

What is "modernism" and what paradigms of modernity have been surpassed ?

>>9796490
And nazis like to pretend there's such a thing as "alt-right" and "anarcho-capitalism"

>>9796502
In the early 80s there was a musical genre called New Wave. Everything since then has been Post New Wave.
They're just names.

>>9796520
>just names
Lazy response; can't you kill time on Facebook instead. Also nazi/pol/ fuck off

>>9796520
I regret to inform you that the 'nazis' haven't existed in 70+ years. I wonder who could have convinced you that there's still such a threat, though. Hmm...

>>9796545
>http://www.americannaziparty.com
Pretty active twitter feed for something that doesn't exist

the original german nazis are irrelevant, the term is now shorthand for paranoids and psychopaths with jew monomania

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>>9796539
They're names for artistic movements.
Better? Much worthless thought has gone into these labels and what they mean, and I would rather discuss a specific work. Apply the term "post modern" to it if you like, but spare me these threads.

>>9796545
Nazis, fascists, doesn't matter. Authoritarians, all.

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>>9796545
south american PoC nazis are the best nazis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BdKmfLHYTA

>>9796554
Lol, please. That's probably run by the ADL anyway.

>>9796561
>Nazis, fascists, doesn't matter
You should ask yourself why the boogeyman you've been told to fear are groups and ideologies that haven't been relevant in over 70 years. Or you should just go do girl things instead of impeding the intellectual endeavors of men.

>>9796615
>even the NAZIs are Jews now
Boy you guys have it rough

>>9796639
The 'nazis' never called themselves notsees, it was always a jewish term. Please inform yourself before you speak on these matters.

>>9796662
>please inform yourself
>lol please
You sound like a cuck, m8. Also you're back with you're "notsee" thought stopping technique. Fucking agents. Please gtfo with your Jew worshipping victimization fetish. /lit/ is for literature.

>>9796615
>impeding the intellectual endeavors of men.
Hilarious. When have you ever been able to turn back time? "Eternal returning" HA

>>9796662
So you agree now? Authoritarianism, no matter the name, is always the same.

>>9796672
Your attitude is the reason your ignorance and why you use words you don't even understand the meaning of.

>>9796682
You don't have to turn back time on human nature, you are the aberration of that, not a step forward. You can't think for yourself, which is why you're using outdated terms and assuming they stand for something they don't. There's always knitting, hun. The future man will respect that a hell of a lot more than these opinions you mistakenly believe are your own.

>>9796715
Outdated terms? I picked them up from manly ol' /lit/ though.

And I do think for myself quite a bit. Read Stirner, reading Arendt. I'm hardly about the hive mind and sheeple.

>>9796715
How does it feel to know that no one will ever take you seriously? If it weren't for you and a few others I would never think of Jews or antisemitism; it's like maybe you work for the ADL; pushing their narrative that antisemitism is still a thing. Idk. All the Jews can die off for all I care but I hope all the plebs who care about mass politics but only experience it as a spectator would die too.

>>9793022
Checked.

>>9792949

You do realize that Jews took part in modernism as well right?

>>9796731
>I'm hardly about the hive mind and sheeple.
Who are you trying to convince here?

>>9793018

>“The Arabs are one of the least developed cultures,” Rand argued. “They are typically nomads. Their culture is primitive, and they resent Israel because it's the sole beachhead of modern science and civilization on their continent."

>“When you have civilized men fighting savages, you support the civilized men, no matter who they are. Israel is a mixed economy inclined toward socialism. But when it comes to the power of the mind—the development of industry in that wasted desert continent—versus savages who don't want to use their minds, then if one cares about the future of civilization, don't wait for the government to do something. Give whatever you can. This is the first time I've contributed to a public cause: helping Israel in an emergency.”

Fucking Jews, arguing for western imperialism! What Jewish trick is this!?

>>9796753
Jews have been raping the West since constantine converted to christianity.

>>9796761
Yes let's go back to mudhuts and worshipping trees and sheeit

>>9796746
>mass politics
Mass politics? It's obvious from the way you communicate that you don't know what's going on in the world. You can change that by educating yourself on the jewish question, or you can continue to blame people like me, who are infinitely more informed than you are, and continue to learn nothing.

I fucking hate Jordan Peterson for unleashing this plague on lit.

>>9796772
Ok Shylock I get it antisemitism is still alive and well duly noted okay? Can you stop now?

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>>9796758
No one, it seems, since you're just trolling.

But are you new? I've always been a promoter of Stirner.

>>9796761

You're an idiot. Yes Jews have always been involved in intellectualism. That makes sense since fucking Christianity itself is a branch of Judaism. But almost none of the original post-modernists were Jews, they were French. Foucault? Pure ethnic french. Heidegger, Lyotard, Rort, none were Jews. Derrida was, but then he was born to a wealthy family, so of course he involved himself in intellectual movements. You don't know what you're talking about.

>>9796783
Shylock? Is English your second language, is that why you are misusing and don't seem to understand so many words?

>>9796785
I'm not trolling at all. I'm trying to educate people who think their worst enemy is a prewar group and that they should fear an ideology from early twentieth century Italy. And I'm trying to tell you to get a girly hobby and stop trying to play politics and philosophy with the boys.

>>9793022
>being a nazi is begining to look like the most patrician option

how about just being a fucking man

>>9796806
>Not knowing Shylock from The Merchant of Venice
>not instantly recognizing a well known Shakespeare reference
Is English your second language? I'm sorry I don't know Hebrew

>>9793203
literally Iran

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>>9796825
And I'm telling you, you are mentally incapable of discussing the topic. Stop. Go play your vidya, child.

>>9793022

Its hilarious to see the "right" arguing lefties are all "pro-jewish" even though in Britain lefties keep getting arrested for anti-antisemitism because of their support for Palestine. Kinda hard to argue Jews control our universities when the head of National Union of Students was booted out for anti-semitism.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/nus-president-malia-bouattia-anti-semitism-parliament-home-affairs-select-committee-israel-a7363591.html

>>9796846
After the "mass politics" comment and calling someone promoting awareness of the jewish question "shylock," I'm going to assume you are 14 and simply not mentally developed yet.

>>9796860
I was discussing the topic when you were playing with dolls, which is the type of feminine behavior you need to reconnect with instead of playing opinionated man on 4chan.

>>9796876
All you are doing is shilling for the ADL, promoting "awareness" of antisemitism. It doesn't have anything to do with literature and I hope you get banned.

>>9796888
That would place you at about 60+ years old.
I see now. Early onset senility.

>>9796890
> ADL
Again, I'm sorry but you don't seem to have any clue what you're talking about, and jews have had an important, and not unusually negative, impact on postmodernism. Please educate yourself on the jewish question before blindly defending them. Read the Culture of Critique -- these are not good people.

>>9792909
people combining past and modernity, sometimes with hints of absurdism, because they have no originality

>>9796904
So you're in your 60s? No wonder all these bad ideas are fried into your brain.

>>9796907
I'm not defending them. You are telling people they need defending. You are promoting their narrative. Just like the American nazi party which you admitted was run by the ADL; you're the same.

>>9796932
45.

Go away now.

>>9796907
Only intelligent post in this thread

>>9796946
Just going to say that this post is relevant to /lit/. Except...I know you're lying because when people lie about numbers like that they will make them sequential like 45 or 56 or whatever..you're a bad liar and I respect you for that.

>>9796948
Samefagging

>>9796946
Do you have children?

>>9796867
zionists are not even trying to hide dat powerlevel anymore

>>9796967
Negative, he was responding to me.

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>>9796976
Lololol

>>9796944
Do you have mental issues? Your use of language is bizarre and you're reaching conclusions no sane man would.

>>9792974
or critique of modernism

>>9796960
What do you mean?
I confessed my age a long time ago. I just don't advertise it so much.

>>9796976
I believe it. Lots of dumb people on this site.

>>9793065
>Incredulity towards metanarratives
>Is itself a metanarrative

Actual garbage. There's nothing in it that's even vaguely interesting. Three French assholes destroyed Western civilization.

>>9797036
(((the French)))

>>9797025
>Lots of dumb people on this site.
Sweetheart, you're afraid of a group that hasn't existed since the 1940s and an ideology that's been irrelevant for even longer ... I wouldn't be calling others dumb if I were you.

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>>9797064
>There's no such thing as nationalists, xenophobes, sexists, authoritarians. I swear.
Tell it to your granny.

>>9797121
Well yeah, since most of words didn't exist until recently and were only coined by people trying to coerce naive individuals like yourself who are prone to buy into their equally ridiculous narrative about how men give a shit about the opinions of masculinized women pretending to be stronk.

>>9797121
Sage

>>9796791
Even post-modern movements in the US that preceded the arrival of French literature were devoid of Jews. Black Mountain poets, minimalists, Pop art, cybernetics and system art, etc.

>>9796926
No one has originality

>>9797036
It's not a metanarrative. Metanarratives have a teleology

>>9797694
Postmodernist teleology is white genocide, either implicity or explicitly

>>9797745
So postmodernism is an incredulity towards white genocide.

>>9797756
Postmodernism is better understood as what marxists would call a class ideology. Postmodernism is an ideology of an onanistic managerial-academic class, an auxiliary to Capital.

>>9797772
Not necessarily, but that's not to say that some of its ideas have been warped to fit the needs of capital and the managerial-academic class. Certainly though it is a middle-class idea, but intended to disrupt those middle-class ways of thinking as one would want to do occasionally. It is fundamentally against a managerial-academic class and you can see that in the postmodern criticism offered by Trump voters fed up with career politicians and the like, the same way post-Marxists were disgusted with the capitalist occupation of thought.

Does Jordan Peterson make postmodern arguments without realizing it?

If so, could you give me some of the postmodern arguments he has made? I don't really follow him that much, so I wouldn't know.