Meritocracy > Nepotism Prove me wrong.

>Meritocracy>Nepotism
In what sense?

>>9772756

Individuals who have potential in aptitude should not be placed behind another simply because of nepotism.

I don't see how this could not be clear.

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>implying the habsburg lip isn't far and away the embodiment and endgame of patrician style
>literally generations in the making
>radiates distinction & class
>w/baked-in fuck you money

nepotism is the clear choice desu

>>9772750
Why would you post that pic? It's a satire about everything wrong with meritocracies.

>>9772762
As Flynn's effect should show you, conditions have a bigger influence than natural aptitude. Following that, under most scenarios, nepotism should form better elites than a meritocracy.

>>9772775

This is a centuries old argument.

>>9772788
And?

>>9772750
Name a meritocracy in history that:
-existed for at least multiple decennia
-had an efficient economy
-had high culture
Protip: you can't.

Meritocracy will inevitably devolve into nepotism.

>>9772802
High culture is pure meritocracy though, aristocracy is just there financing it. In fact, the most interesting art of the past is the one that tried to overcome the pleb patrons' tastes.

smart people breed smart people, smart people become friends with smart people ergo nepotism is more efficient.

>>9772861
Literally false. Exceptional individuals won't lock a dinasty of great men, it will just mean that maybe (keyword) your son will be somewhat smart, and you won't be able to make any prediction about your grandchildren.

>>9772802
Unironically the US

>>9772890
What is old money?

>>9772775
Maybe, but this does not mean those with the requisite skill set/merit should be locked out of the upper echelon for their lack of proper conditioning, if said merit was achieved through self study and/or natural aptitude.

Meritocracy is something only whites are capable of adhering to.

Meritocracy is better than Nepotism because ai can't benefit from Nepotism. Lock too many people in frivolous and hopeless positions and you'll get your head cut. I mean it, I would be ready to kill you and your family if that was the case.

>>9772897
Something that didn't stop Andrew Carnegie, Steve Jobs, Milton Friedman, Ulysses S Grant, James Garfield, etc. from attaining elite positions, and that's just off the top of my head.

Nepotism: Mozart has to eat with servants while invred retards in the other room pretend to be excellent and virtuos
Meritocracy: Wagner gets the respect and fame he deserves, and even his own theater, designed for only his dramas to be played in it

Defenders of nepotism are just LARPers who wish so hard they could be actual aristocrats.

socialist meritocracy > capitalist

>>9772917
I haven't said that exceptions are not possible. Regardless, if they're not old-money, the vast majority of their shareholders and business contacts are in a way or another.

>>9772841
High culture itself is meritocratic, but the societies generating it are not. So on society-level, meritocracies are inferior.

>>9772917
Survivor bias. These guys are exceptions, that's why they are famous.

>>9772927
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2014/10/03/two-thirds-of-billionaires-made-it-themselves.html

feel free to substantiate your assertion. No doubt the US has grown more meritocratic over time, and in Carnegie's era there was an entrenched hierarchy less flexible than today, but I would maintain that wealth is the one area most susceptible to nepotism in any society due to inheritabilty, and our society is quite meritocratic as a result.

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>>9772926
>socialist meritocracy

>>9773004
Socialist meritocracy does not depend on the existence of socialism. Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany fit this model, since anyone had access to education and anyone could reach the highest ranks in their government, regardless of their origin. Said model can be implemented in any system in which welfare of this kind is present.

tldr: you're a retard who is triggered by the word "socialist"

>>9773023
So why the fuck call it socialist meritocracy you mongoloid?

>>9773043
I guess you can't read. Notso shocking, given your prior posts.

>>9773052
An inability to answer questions is a symptom of autism anon.

>>9773023
>anyone could reach the highest ranks in their government, regardless of their origin
Are you sure about that, Anon?

>>9773004
alt right faggots must be kneecapped

>>9773060
To look at the founders of these parties and their seconds in command is enough for me to prove this claim.

>>9773089
No, I mean...
You know what, never mind

>>9773104
Please, continue.

>>9772750
You're not wrong.
However, the reality is that IQ and various other competencies are heritable, and parents can pass on skills to their children. So meritocracy may look like nepotism, when it's simply good genetics added to good child-rearing.

>>9772750
>the sky is blue

>>9773104
I get it now.
ahah

>>9772819

>>9772916
Most unspooked response. Good job anon.

>>9772750
Meritocracy is a pipe dream.

>>9772750
True meritocracy can only exist in a nation-state dominated by a single ethny; nepotism is an extension of kin selection, and thus competing ethnic groups will always favor their kin or putative kin when in presence of the Other in order to maximize inclusive fitness.

>>9772890

The U.S. is as much nepotism as meritocracy, and nepotism is easier here.

>>9773799

This is the only thing I read in this thread that I came close to agreeing with.

Meritocracy is a white concept and only whites are capable of creating meritocratic institutions. Other people are too tribal, which is why they can't create good institutions and try to rent seek off the institutions whites have created. And since there are now so many non whites rent seeking off of white institutions, those institutions are of course failing.

Stopping thinking about these ideas in the abstract -- you will never understand them that way. There are strict racial rules that determine everything.

>>9772819
I've been playing with this idea for a while now as it relates to American vs Canadian democracy, and I'm starting to believe the "late stage capitalism" crowd has definitely missed the point about someone like Trump. Just look at how someone like him would be humbled and pleased to have been accepted a lordship or into a royal household even. American democracy will dissolve back into the British Empire - but I don't believe this is true, by the way. But we do dissolve our tyrants through lordships and marrying them off, giving them the prestige and honour they need, and it works like a fucking charm, so maybe, think about it. Maybe the experiment is over and the Tories were always right....