What is on his bookshelf /lit/? I can only work out Stalingrad

communist manifesto x50

I spotted Nick Land and Mark Fisher. Suprised to see no Slavoj Zizek (rest in peace my Slovene brother)

>Those Tories have no idea whatsoever of what went on at Stalingrad. Although I can in no way compare my struggle reading it with that of the Red Army, it has been a very big read.

>>9763535
Great fish pie mark!

>All perfectly misaligned and missized to maximize focus to them

Mao's Little Red Book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5WbwHO8msU

Towards A New Socialism by Cockshott and Cottrell
Eclipse and Re-emergence of the Communist Movement by Gilles Dauve
Capitalism by Shaikh
Against the Market by David McNally

>>9763659
>>9763509
tyty

Btw OP, if you support this guy and want to read books which relate to his political stance, at least read some of the critiques of his politics so you understand why it doesn't work

>>9763690
Shush you! that idea might make him learn something valuable.

>>9763690
let hear them then

>>9763808
Here's a free PDF to get your started. By Milton Friedman

http://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/friedman-government-problem-1993.pdf

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>>9763690
>Btw OP, if you support this guy and want to read books which relate to his political stance, at least read some of the critiques of his politics so you understand why it doesn't work

>>9763836
t. american

>>9763808
Check out Milton Friedman, maybe not that PDF but read one of his books. I can recommend "free to choose". Or watch him on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRpEV2tmYz4

He is probably the best right-wing libertarian economist

>>9763895
Nope.

>>9763910
Free to Choose is a good start, watch the whole series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4

If you've got any doubts wait till the end of the episode and watch the debate.

>>9763690
We all know to read people of more than one opinion you jumpy autist.
>>9763694
Return to Reddit my passive-aggressive little friend.

>>9763930
If you aren't American and you still cite meme economics like Friedman, then something ha gone drastically wrong, mon ami

Mein Kampf

>>9763986
I could have cited Hayek or Mises or even Rothbard but that's not a sensible place to start when dealing with the left.

>>9763445
I think the orange one on top shelf is 120 Days of Sodom.

Why is right-wing economics so bad?

>Friedman
>Hayek
>muh markets equals liberty
>unions lead to slavery and shit
>there should be no collective bargaining whatsoever

Regardless of your political view, if you believe there shouldn't be essential public services and ways to organize labour st all you're deluded as fuck.

>>9764068
People can organize themselves. A centralized power put in charge of organizing everything leads to waste and corruption, necessarily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_order

>>9764102
>people can organize themselves

Like in anarcho-communism?

>>9763836
>americucks afraid of a government where poor people are not dying in the street

>>9764068

I think your use of 'bad' misses the point that right wingers arent trying to please left wingers, and honestly neither of those are right wingers.

I don't think many people in contemporary society are all that familiar with the actual right wing, just conservatives. Serious right wingers don't have any interest in things like liberty, the public exist to serve, not be served.

seriously can someone explain me why americans are so obsessed with capitalism?

>>9764002
Why do ancap memesters only mention work by literally five people? It's either those german cunts or Tomas "House Nigger" Sowell

>>9764170
Those cunts are all right wingers. I don't get it anymore, people claim Hitler wasn't a right winger, now AnCaps aren't right winger, next you'll tell me Marx and Bakunin were and that the GOP was the real revolutionary party all along?

>>9764176
Because it's one of those memes that's central to their countries identity

>>9764153
Yes the principle is the same but no population is going to voluntarily organize themselves in that manner (no private property, shared means of production), which is why any form of communism requires dictatorship.

Spontaneously organised societies aren't forced to give share anything or making profits or competing with each other.

>>9764188

Any more strawmen you want to smack around a bit without addressing the comment whatsoever?

>>9764165
It's literally in the book

>What produced the current wave of homelessness around the country, which is a disgrace and a scandal? Much of it was produced by government action. Rent control has contributed, though it has been even more damaging in other ways, as has the governmental decision to empty mental facilities and turn people out on the streets and urban renewal and public housing programs, which together have destroyed far more housing units than they have built and let many public housing units become breeding grounds for crime and viciousness.

>>9764182

Because they're the most famous, and for a reason -- they cover the general topics. If you want to talk about specific areas I can quote more specialized economists.

>>9764176

Because the Civil War never truly ended, and capitalism allows for Fed to maintain its hegemony. Socialism and other such egalitarian ideas reinforce power at the individual state level and devalue the federal government.

>>9764182
Because they know nothing about the current debates in economics. They're citing memesters who have no mathematical component to their work and don't actually analyse any real life situation. Free market liberals are lazy people in search of a justification of their creed. Don't believe the hype.

>>9764176
The protestant ethic.

>>9763910
>He is probably the best right-wing libertarian economist
That sounds like a quote by Pinochet

>>9764211
Is Nicholas Nassim Taleb mathematical enough for you? He's a minarchist which is pretty much ancap + military and police.

C O M P L E X I T Y E C O N O M I C S

>>9764224
>ancap + military and police
sounds familiar

>>9764253
Unironically this

>>9764250
>Get to study for free now, have to pay it back when I'm way older in a comfortable career derived from my education

Does the writer really see a problem with this?

>>9764253

>When Kekistan rises

Good thing that's never going to happen

>>9764206
I agree with your central point, but mental facilities would have fallen apart to public pressure eventually anyways, and the care was so terrible it's hardly a good case for lack of government intervention.

>>9764253
What is Kekistan similar to? Fascism? Do all followers of Kekistan understand what Fascism is? Do they read Fascist literature? I do not get the impression they do.

>>9764265
Trump was memed into office by /pol/ its already happening, kike

>>9764188
Left-Right is an economic distinction. Taken as such, the positions are pretty clear and historically consistent, only people uneducated in political economy confuse the two. The problem is when you use left and right for other areas, like social issues. There, it can pretty much mean whatever the fuck you want. Is Friedman suddenly left-wing because he isn't a social conservative? Was USSR right-wing because it wasn't liberal? It makes no sense outside of economics.

>>9764276

Not much of an intellectual heavyweight are you

>>9764276
Donald Trump is a neo- liberal Zionist demagogue.

>>9764253

>When Kekistan rises

Unironically kill yourself

>>9764284
>Not much of an intellectual heavyweight are you

I can just smell the motza balls from this post

>>9764328

you're pretty far off then because I'm almost certainly "whiter" than you. I bet you even have brown eyes you fucking faggot, ayy lmao

>>9764334
Wrong, and I can gaurantee I have one more foreskin than you schlomo

>>9764317
shaliday my dude
redpilling the masses huh

Everyone should be sent to a literary gulag and forced to read "Contending Economic Theories - Neoclassical, Keynesian, Marxian" by Wolff and Resnick before discussing politics on the Internet.

You have no proper frame to understand the previous two centuries of politics if you can't differentiate between what left and right meant during the keynesian consensus and what they mean for neoliberalism.

>>9764342

>being proud of having a dick so small your foreskin is doubled in length

wew

>>9764271
I live in a country with hardly any truly homeless people. Some are classed as homeless because they live in a shelter, or are still with parents or friends or whatever, but less than 0.01% actually "sleep rough", as they say. So you think that's pretty good, right?

No. I used to be homeless myself (I lived in a shelter). They give you everything: food, showers, toiletries, clothes, all for free. So what's the problem? Almost literally everyone there is an addict -- most commonly cocaine, heroin or alcohol. Those that aren't get out of there in a matter of weeks (since you can get a job as long as you have an address), everyone else spends their days begging. That's right, beggars beg for drugs, because everything else is free.

So our taxes and are charity is funding their drug lifestyle. You might say that's fine too, "if drugs makes them happy, let them have them". That would be a good argument except the left (who apparently cares so much about the homeless) keeps claiming that the government isn't doing enough! What the fuck more do you want us to do? We've paid for everything INCLUDING their drugs.

This is why I have zero empathy for the "homeless" today. Wanna solve the homeless problem? Stop giving money to beggars and drug test every person that needs homing. If you have a drug problem you can go to the hospital, get a detox, then come back, otherwise pay for your addiction with your own money (suck a dick).

>>9764360
Thanks for the admission numbhead

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>>9763445
>Red books

>>9764378

but theyre all innocent victims anon, dont you know???

in reality i think our society needs to wake up to the idea people are not equal in terms of intellectual capability, homeless lifers are just stupid and theres no hope for them

>>9764378
Why do you get so buttblasted about government supporting the needy, but not about deregulated corporations leeching more surplus than they were ever able to in the history of capitalism? Why do you fall for the "big government" meme when it's clearly a distraction for the massive inequality caused by unregulated markets and forced austerity?

>>9764408
It always baffles me how libertarian types are so wary of government getting too much power, but when a huge multinational corporation wants to get even bigger or expand into other sectors, it's like "no, that couldn't present any problems, the Free Market™ will fix everything".

>>9764399
I honestly tried to make friends with some of them, tried to understand their story. They were all really dumb, and I don't mean uneducated...

>>9764408
>Why do you get so buttblasted about government supporting the needy

I'm not, I'm annoyed at the fact that no matter how much undeserved help they get, you liberals will still complain that it's not enough. Again, what the fuck do you want us to do about dumb drug addicts who live for one thing and one thing only: their next hit? That's the lowest priority for me.

>but not about deregulated corporations

Because it lowers prices for us which is good. All those regulations cost literally billions, which you pay for when you buy something, and do next to nothing. Safety regulations are especially retarded and assume that the average person is a mongoloid.

>>9764428
1. Monopolies have only ever existed because of government power giving special privileges to one company. Monopolies abusing their market dominance don't exit in free market. It's pretty simple.

2. Corporations get bigger because they provide value to their customers. If they weren't, nobody would buy their goods/services and they'd die. Again, pretty simple.

>>9764428
They're just ignorant as fuck. I feel like right-wingers completely missed the last crisis and the continuing fallout. I mean we had a fucking IMF paper questioning the dogma of austerity and neoliberal policy as a whole. We finally have movements in the western world that are breaking the mold of every party having the same economic position. Corbyn's popularity is just the beginning. We could conceivably formulate a more humane market economy with enough pressure.
But no, these idiots are lost in their tired debates about free market economics like we haven't been doing that shit since the 70s. The only thing I can recommend is to read history.

>>9764453
>Safety regulations are especially retarded
>t. Triangle Waist Company

>>9764462
>Monopolies abusing their market dominance don't exit in free market.
Of course they do. There is no serious competitor to Amazon or Google, just to pick two obvious examples, and the latter has started doing extremely shady things with user data.

>>9764478
b u l l s h i t

>>9764474
More people die because of safety regulations than deaths are prevented.

>>9764462
Markets tend towards monopoly you dumb fuck, it doesn't magically go away if you abolish the state (which constantly has to fix market inefficiencies as it is). This equilibrium dream is the most laughable theory in mainstream economics, it's divorced from reality.

>>9764493
That's an assertion which definitely requires some good evidence anon

>>9764475
You are free to use Bing. People use Google because it has the best search algorithm. That doesn't necessarily mean they're involved in any antitrust practices.

You are also free to go to B&N and pay 10 times more for a book. Again, nothing wrong with being so good at something everyone comes to you. It's just the jealous mentality of the left that criminalizes excellence.

>the latter has started doing extremely shady things

Nobody gives a fuck. If they did, DuckDuckGo would be more popular.

>>9764334
Is this an /int/ meme?

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Higher Res.

>>9764478
Yeah it has nothing to do with cheap labour being necessary to keep western economies in motion, it's all a jewish conspiracy by jew corporations who support communism.

>>9764495
LMAO markets tend towards perfect competition! The advantages that monopolies have, namely 1. first to market and 2. intellectual property, are eradicated in the long run. Uber was a monopoly because they were the biggest share-economy taxi app, but now we're seeing lyf and halo getting bigger and bigger.

>>9764500

FDA takes 6 years to approve a drug. In those six years thousands of people die. Without the FDA only a handful would die from taking untested drugs, but pharma companies would shit their pants because they'd go down with them due to massive fines.

>>9764253
(You)

>>9764515
>Stalingrad
>The (Continuous? Contemptuous?) Alliance
>Staying Alive
>Political Quotations
>Parliamentary Socialism
>Thesaurus

Shelf 2

>Men Who Made [something]
>The State We're In
>Great Women's Lives
>Red Not-[rest of word blocked]

>>9764253

lol so many ppl are gonna be "the first" to die, how are you gonna decide who's the actual first

>>9763445
I think I see Roget's Thesaurus in the top right

>>9764550
Easy, you tally up how many first declarations they got

>>9764522
>Without the FDA only a handful would die from taking untested drugs
I don't follow here. One of the points of testing is to determine side effects. You cant say that very few people would die from untested because you have no idea at what rate the side effects occur.

Monopolies also, by way of larger market share, tend to have more resources and benefit better from economies of scale. Sure, businesses with low entry costs like uber are more at threat from new competitors, but look at how standard oil undercut its smaller competition by use of its size until it had more then 80% of the market

>>9764539
People having leftist ideas is what causes social conflict, not underlying economic structures

This is why you'll always remain a spooked idiot.

>>9764578
>You cant say that very few people would die from untested because you have no idea at what rate the side effects occur.

Pharmaceutical companies would exercise extreme caution. Here's how a drug gets to market:

Phase 1: test on animals
Phase 2: test for safety on humans (5 people)
Phase 3: test dosage/side effects on humans (10 people)
Phase 4: test for efficacy (20-50)
Phase 5: clinical trial (100+ people)

Do you think a drug company would get to last stage using a drug that kills people? That's asking for a billion dollar lawsuit.

>tend to have more resources and benefit better from economies of scale

There's also diseconomies of scale. It really depends on the market, the demand, and the age in which we live (technology makes a big difference).

>>9764176
This, I spent some time in the USA, and frankly it is fucking creepy.

>>9764367
You people are so cringey you make reddit seem sophisticated.

>>9764611
But the fact is that in some markets monopolies can develop and sustain themselves. Do you disagree with this?

I see your point about testing but I still would be concerned about the risk of less stringent trials resulting in another Thalidomide. How much extra testing does the FDA require anyway? (as a non american). I think we've both ignored the idea of opening developing drugs to terminal patients as well.

It also gets away from the main points about safety regulations and that >>9764474 was about workplace safety laws and are a different beast to pharmaceutical laws

>>9764672
You're right, it's not a utopia, and I don't claim that lack of government regulation/intervention is free of side-effects, but it's certainly better than heavy regulation in most cases.

The main point about the FDA is that once the pharma industry gets past them (which they usually do with their ridiculous clinical trial methodologies) they're pretty much exempt from liability. Without the FDA the pressure to product useful drugs is passed onto the corporations themselves.

More importantly people need to educate themselves because neither the gov't nor capitalism is going to save them from pills. They should be a last resort, not as the go-to for every little fucking headache you have.

Workplace safety regulations can indeed save lives, but the state of them at the moment are literally bringing worker wages down by 5-10% because companies now need a safety consultant making sure there are no loose cables on the floor and other petty shit. You tell me, if you're earning minimum wage would you rather make one more dollar an hour and maybe be a bit more careful around?

I understand you, the answer is probably in between no regulation and heavy regulation, but I originally posted to point out that government, no matter their intention, usually impact us negatively.

>>9764378
You're ignoring what I stated and just throwing a fit about the current issue. I never said that what's going on now is the best solution, but money and resources were already going to homeless people anyways and the public would eventually cry foul play at the living standards they were in.

The current system has a bit better rehabilitation rate which is what the focus should be on if you want cleaner streets. If you just take away the hand outs it will have the same effect emptying those institutions had. Unless you are willing to kill homeless people they'll exist and need a treatment plan that doesn't violate the values of too many voters.

Actually, no let's just let a company set the standards on how they'll treat anyone that gets admitted, and when/if they'll be discharged great idea thanks for defending my tax money.

>>9764367

This whole kekistan thing is completely irrelevant to me and I come to 4chan pretty often. I can't believe how utterly non-existent it must be to others. Are you at least aware of this?

>>9764259
Free education means retards will study random degrees which can't get them a job. Waste of time and money for everyone involved, especially since the tax payer has to pay for their meme degree. At least with the current system you have to study a degree that is somewhat in demand to have any hope of paying pack your student loan.

>>9764747
Coming from the UK I suppose my view of government regulation is coloured a touch more supportive of it. Probably cultural more then anything. Our regulatory body for drugs never really gets talked about, its more about the organisation responsible for deciding which drugs go into the hospitals (among other things). Since its a public body its more about costs then anything. Although you would have a point that without the extra FDA costs, the drugs would be cheaper

Thanks for the discussion anon, you've reminded me how /lit/ is one of the best boards because you can have arguments without them devolving into shit flinging.

>>9764813
But I'm a non-retard with a Russell group degree and I can't get a good job

Have been told literally four times by the interviewer that I was perfect for the job but there weren't enough positions available

>>9764756
You know you can still have charity in a free market? In fact, a large amount of the funds for the homeless comes from both large charities and small donations. Obviously it's an issue almost everyone has strong opinions about, so it's not like all of a sudden we're gonna let profit-driven institutions deal with it all.

>The current system has a bit better rehabilitation rate which is what the focus should be on if you want cleaner streets
I'm with on the first part (rehab -> cleaner streets) but the rehab rate is NOT better; we're facilitating their lifestyle. The thing is, everyone knows homelessness and addiction go hand in hand, but they're not being treated as such, the focus is not on rehab it's simply on housing them.

Anyway, you started all this shit by talking about "people dying on the streets". You can hypothetical all day long, but you mentioned homelessness to try to appeal to emotion, when in reality, fuck the homeless.

>>9764873

what degree friend?

>>9764982
History

I also have 5 years management experience

Can't catch a break

>>9764813
>Let's turn university into a factory line of poorly educated engineers

Holy shit I wanna go back in time and make sure the US never gets colonized, what a fucking cesspit.

>>9764250
I wonder which Tory-bought paper published this...

>>9764993
Management of what? Hotels?

>>9764890
I never said anything about people dying in the streets. I said that public pressure would have caused reform on the mental health system anyways. The government just did it before public outrage grew which is actually rare.

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>>9764747
>because companies now need a safety consultant making sure there are no loose cables on the floor and other petty shit.

I work with tropical and marine fish.

I shit you not our Health and Safety idiot said we had to ensure there was no salt build up on the glass of our fish tanks because, and I quote, "in a fire someone may try to lick it off in panic. You never know what people might do."

We legit how to ensure there is no salt build up on tanks and external filtration pipes because of it.

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Peter Mandelson : The Third Man

>>9765029
Why would someone lick salt in panic?

>>9764253
So this is where all the Kekistani retards went after /pol/ threw them out. Do you know how fucking cringe you have to be to get exiled from fucking /pol/?

>>9764275
"Kekistan" is the civic nationalist meme faggotry of Sargoy of Blackdad, some Youtube Skeptic. Leave the noble tradition of Italian Fascism out of it.

>>9765485
you never know what people might do.

>>9764253
>capitalism against socialism, whiteness against nonwhites, and masculinity over feminity.

do you mean, "capitalism without socialism" such as to imply "masculinity without feminity"? cause that sounds pretty dumb and gay man.

If you can't fucking see then what makes you think we can?

>>9764253

Oh no, he's going to hang us from the jungle gym!

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>>9764153
>Like in anarcho-communism?
hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahah

>>9765485
>>9765509
We laugh now but it legit happened

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>>9764193
Pre Marx, and the rise of the equality in all things everywhere meme, there were some relatively successful anarcho communes. They tend to rely for their guiding impulse on some kind of vaguely Christian inspired feeling of egalitarianism, rather than the state worship of post Marx communes.

I can't make out what's on that pic but I'd guarantee there's a lot of old school Brit socalism lit on there: Ralph Miliband, Raymond Williams. Stuart Hall, etc.

>>9764253
>Kekistan
35 year old, anime watching, video game playing, /r/incel posting, faggot right there

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>>9763445
Corbyn is patrician 2bh.

>>9764253
grr politics gom take le jobby jobby!!!

>>9767231
>Never tires of reading about cuckoldry
Corbyn doesn't surprise me

>>9763558
Holy shit you're right. Even the photos on the top all face the camera.

>>9767231
Corbyn is certainly the sort of guy I would want to discuss reading with while getting a coffee.

>>9767231
>my favorite book? Has to be a tie between the one about a Jewish cuckold and the one about whiny black people

>>9767231
>on the grounds that it's very hard to understand the first time and doesn't get much easier on the third or fourth time reading of it
Why are certain kind of people attracted to things they don't understand? Like Corbyn and economics
Sure I'd have a pint with him, but he is just the kind to confusedly applaud the emperors new clothes

>>9764286
For all the vitriol against Israel and Jews, /Pol/ seems to support Israel and American Jewry the most. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.

>>9768896
>he is just the kind to confusedly applaud the emperors new clothes
But he is the emperor
Better question is who are the tailors

>>9764253
>When Kekistan rises you'll be the first to be put to death
>Why do libfucks incite violence hurrrr

>>9767969
here's your response
congrats you worked really hard to get it

>>9768947
Never reply to me again, Jew lover

>>9763445
a bunch of faggy commie shit

>>9768900
Whew lad, it's almost like """Pol""" isn't a single conscious entity hivemind, who knew!