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This novella features almost all the same ideas as 1984 but presents them in a far more succinct, effective fashion. Virtually every significant idea in 1984 - the inversion of truth, the manipulation of language, the manipulation of memory, the wastefulness on useless resources like the windmill - is presented here more effectively. I don't understand why Orwell felt the need to write an entire novel that covered basically the same ideas. Did he think this was too cute, and not harsh enough? I like the passages where it describes : "They all remembered, or thought they remembered..."
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>>9757355
Very good insight. Can't wait to read animal farm to my kid.
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>>9757355
>dimdl
>fdyam
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Who was the best animal?
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>>9757355
1984 is a love story my guy. Finding sincerity in human connection despite living in a world where everything is inverted and perverted.

Animal Farm uses failings of the Societ regime as its central theme.

1984 uses it as a backdrop for a human story.
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>>9757645
Snowball
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>>9757647
The love story in 1984 is quite boring though, even though I believe that waa the desired effect. Forbidden love under totalitarianism was still not anything as passionate and sacred as true love.

I like both novela, but Orwell's overlooked earlier work is probably more interesting than both. Its a shame Orwell never managed to see how the Soviet Union played out, along with the revolutions of the 20th centuary.
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>>9757728
>as passionate and sacred as true love
What's more "sacred" than the one person you can trust to care about you in a nightmarish world?
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>>9757728

"Road to Wigan Pier" is fascinating. That chapter where he goes down the coal mine is amazing in its detail. And in the second part of the book its amazing how he explains why working class people tend to not accept socialism. You really never see writers with such a reasonable worldview like Orwell's anymore, he seemed able to consider almost any idea and despite being a socialist himself, often criticized other socialists for turning people off.
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>>9757355
>diimdl fdyam
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>>9757355
DIIMDL FDYAM
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Animal farm is too disconnected with the human experience since it relies on a metaphor. It is also simply a parody of the betrayal of the Russian revolution, not really a critique of totalitarianism in general.

1984 is a dystopian vision of the future which involves humanity. It acts as a critique of totalitarianism but it is deeper than that. Orwell touches on the idea of the freedom of love being a threat to power, as the state cannot control the basic biology of the individual. The act of sex is portrayed in the book as rebellion and Winston is punished for it. Yet the animalistic urges of biology are too strong to be overcome by the state.

He also touches on some interesting ideas like doublethink and newspeak, a means to control humanity through controlling their language. In some ways it is indeed a manual for subjugating a population.
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>>9757636
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>>9758630
Aцтisм
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>>9758634
>atstism
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