what the fuck was this guys problem?

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What stands in the way of Liberté, Equalité, Fraternité? The fulfillment of the promise?

Turns out it was capitalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkO3qsZY_U&list=PL80E7B20E05FD7651

>>9757212
I'm sick of "wtf was his problem" threads. People who post threads like that want others to do all the work for them, they never explain why they think someone has a problem.
Oh, and it's Karl Marx. A person that you know 99% of /lit/ hates.
So your post is really unoriginal and low-effort and should never post a thread like this again.

>>9757236
No it was the pipe strip
https://youtu.be/NAh9oLs67Cw

What if I told you it's kind of embarrassing to discount Marx and still talk about literature

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>>9757250
MAGA-head, 99% of Marx hating /pol/ isn't the same people as /lit/

I also hate these threads though

>>9757285
Go on

>>9757337

>Go on

Brace yourself for disappointment.

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>>9757285
>don't badmouth that economist, it makes all of your literary opinions irrelevant and in bad taste!

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>>9757212
He saw what no one's supposed to, and worse, talked about it.

>>9757250
>99% of /lit/ hates

>>9757236
It was a false promise. The French Revolution was a disaster then ruined Europe. FUCK Bastille Day. Long live the House of Bourbon.

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>>9758207
DO YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING

>>9757285

He's a historical curiosity, like Lamarck or whoever the fuck it was who invented Esperanto. I'm not sure why you spend a lot of time reading his theories when there is so much more current scholarship available.

>>9757236
remember me

>>9757285
The first filter for caring about Marx is reading him.
>You see, because of this definition of value I made up that cannot be tested empirically being paid for your work is actually the same as being robbed, so you sh-

This is around the point everyone who wasn't either profoundly stupid or possessed of an ulterior motive stopped listening to Marx.

The second filter is Bakunin, who blew Marx out so utterly that in a universe governed by reason that disgusting cunt would be a footnote in Bakunin's biography as someone he totally rekt once who later died gasping for breath on the dirt floor of the house Engals bought for him.

>>9760299
Explain how companies make a profit if they aren't stealing surplus value from the workers

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>>9760307
There is no such thing as "surplus value." The only empirical definition of "value" is what you can sell a good or service for.

Therefore, whatever can sell your labor for is the value of your labor. If you sell me your dumb ass swinging a hammer at some rocks I own for an hour for ten dollars and I then sell the gravel for twelve dollars, I have not stolen anything from you. You sold me your labor, I sold some people some smashed up rocks. If I had found pebbles on a beach and sold those instead they would be worth exactly the same amount to me--whatever I could sell them for.

Marx made up a nonsense definition of value after the fact as a great emotional appeal to workers. You are being robbed, so you need to kill the people who pay you for your goods and services! What, prove it? No no no, it's all very complicated, empiricism is overrated anyway, just trust me, start a revolution, starve to death, it's worth it, also Engals pls buy me more beer

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>>9758237
SINGING THE SONG OF FOOLISH MEN,
AND NOW THOSE MEN LAY SILENT ACROSS RUSSIA'S SILVERY FENS,
AND THE BEATING OF THEIR HEARTS ECHOES THE STILLNESS OF THEIR DRUMS,
AND FROM THE STEPPE THE HOWLING OF COSSACKS COMES

>>9760338
No workers no gravel. You would want more for the gravel if you had to collect it on the beach yourself.

>>9757212

Pretty funny joke that got coopted by retards who weren't in on it and then taken way too far.

>>9760367

Not the poster, but the case is that there are people that are interested in selling you their service for an amount that a patron decides on. Stop this silliness, please.

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>>9757236
Wolff is not a fucking Marxist, he's a social democrat that wants heavily regulated capitalism.

Capitalism.

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Trying to make Hegel's theistic system of idealism and transform it into a system of atheistic historical materialism.

>>9760338
>The only empirical definition of "value" is what you can sell a good or service for.
Isn't that what "price" means?

>>9760920
He didn't.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-cyril/works/millenni/smith4.htm