1984

*Teleports behind Stalin*
Heh, nice try, Totalitarian

I am writor

>>9755245
>Leave subtlety to me...

A good book that unfortunately gets memed to death by political hacks.

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It wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual tho

>>9755245
Profesor Girafales.

>>9755245
>japanese sword
nice bait friendo

>>9755245
Good book. It hit you over the head with its symbolism and allegory. But still.

>>9755681
>any considerable shift in politics or WikiLeaks shows the government is sneaky
1984 is here! Orwell was right! This is the end! Be sure to buy gold to survive the post-apocalyptic wasteland!

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No man... you've got it all wrong. Brave New World, now THAT's how the future's gonna be....

>>9755245
Some of the ideas in the book are definitely worth looking into.
Others are used completely for the wrong reasons. The alternative to corporate oligarchs fucking over people is not a communist dystopia.

>>9755764
I've never understood this thing about gold and any other mineral held in high regard.
imho I can't seem to understand how they have intrinsec value on their own.
Aren't the people that give them value?
And considering a sort of end time, wouldn't that imply a shift in human need for precious metal?

>>9756207
It's not the intrinsic value that makes the gold valuable in a "gold standard" economy. It's basically the same as paper money but less inflatable.

>>9755737
Orwell is easy to dismiss bc of how overt his symbolism is, but imo by getting his symbolism out of the way easily, he has more time to talk about shit that is actually interesting

>>9755697
Yet the left tries to use it as one.

>>9756317
it's almost like things don't have to wrapped in a 50 layers of allegory and subtext to be good

Which version of the book do you guys think is the definitive?

2 + 2 = 5
Or
2 + 2 =

the first copy I read was the latter and when I found out that the "proper" version had Winston completely accept the brainwashing I was a bit disappointed. It's already depressing enough, I liked the idea that they could break him, but couldn't completely re-write him.

>>9755697
It was based on what was already apparent.

>>9757450
"The left" as in who? The pseudo-left neoliberals and their oligarchic masters? The fanatical faux-left state-authoritarian capitalists who call themselves communists?

>>9755950
>implying it isn't already

>>9755331
a true technoracle Cayce you are/were/will be

>>9755245
Probably his worst book. It kills me how seldom people read Keep the Aspidistra Flying, Road to Wigan Pier, Down and Out, Homage to Catalonia, etc. compared to this and Animal Farm.

>>9757557
The so-far-right-they've-gone-extreme-left nu-conservatives trying to make Fahrenheit 451 the future instead of 1984.

>>9755950
implying Huxley wasn't completely on point about Human sexuality and Soma (pharma and pills for everything)

>>9757747
That's not how any of this works.

>>9755950
>implying huxley's future wasn't literally perfect in every way

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>>9757747
The neocons? They're just the pseudo-right, also lapdogs of the oligarchy.

These books aren't prophecies, they're warnings. Stop thinking so biblically. Y'all watchin' I, Pet Goat II too much.

>>9755972
He explicitly said this in essays about English language and politics. Western democracies are subtly coercive

>>9757600
>>9757748
>>9757772
>>9755950

>>9757723
I enjoyed Keep the Aspidistra Flying more, but 1984 has some extremely influential ideas. It's worth knowing from a cultural standpoint.

>>9757871
Rugmuncher

I see the fucking butterfly poster got to this thread also.

the greatest book in history.