What does he want to say with this?

>>9749548
I'll tell you when I find a decent pdf download.

>if the text is read in its original German it is possible to hear the vast number of what appear to be neologisms as attempts to reanimate the German language. According to this latter gloss, the linguistic constructions concerned—which involve hyphenations, unusual prefixes and uncommon suffixes—reveal the hidden meanings and resonances of ordinary talk

What is the best translation of this? Macquarrie is the one I've read so far.

>>9749548
being is time

Am I really dumb af. because all of this, hilariously enough, appears self-evident to me, kek.>>9750016
>7
yeah, and?

>>9750016
and? isnt thtaa obvious+ "YOLO" contains this sentiment

"the being of being is inside of its being"
>if we are thrown into the world against our will as beings-in-existence then we must accept that fully
>therefore, we must remember what it is to be to appreciate the experience of being that is coming to its conclusion (the nothing)
>the nothing before (pre-birth) and the nothing after (death) are object and the middle (life) is subject
>the nothing is what Kant calls the-thing-in-itself (noumenon)
>the absolute is not the middle (the subject - we must "overcome metaphysics"), it is the entire nothing - middle - nothing (the all)
>the middle is dasein (human experience)
>the absolute is subject colliding with object against the temporal

>>9750082
Am I a fucking moron because this is nothing new to me? It just makes sense, intuitively, and always so.

What other Heidegger books are great? Preferabbly something different from B&T. I really like his way of writing (Macquarrie translation at least)

>>9750087
You could read The End of Philosophy, I can't say it's great but it's the only other one of his I've read.

>>9749548
If he could have said it more succinctly, he would have. Being and Time isn't an argument in the sense of an attempt to prove the correctness of a set of propositions you can sum up in a /lit/ post, it's an 'experience' or 'journey' more like a Socratic dialogue than a typical philosophical monograph. I know the idea of an 'experience' sounds wanky, but there isn't really any way to describe a work like Being and Time that hasn't been overrun by grifters selling yoga classes...

>>9749591
Macquarrie is good, but I prefer the revised Stambaugh. I have some basic tourist German that helps me with terms like 'stellen', but ultimately reading Heidegger in translation requires a certain skill of holding the German terms in your head as you read the English. This is made much easier by the fact that so much of his terminology is so technical it doesn't map onto either the German or the English - you would be learning a new (or, perhaps, more primordial) language regardless of what translation you read it in.

>>9750120
I feel you, especially the Socratic dialogue feel of it.

What other H would you rec?

"The National Socialist Revolution is not simply the taking of power in the state by one party froID another, but brings a complete revolution of our German existence."

"The FUhrer himself, and only he, is the current and future reality of Germany, and his word is your law."

"We have. completely broken with the idolization of a landles and powerles thinking. We se the end of al philosophy which co1lld serve it. We are certain of this: that clear toughness and security about the plaiIl qu� tions of the nature of being are returning to us"

"Now there is a sharp battle to be fought in the spirit of National Socialism, 'Yhich must not stifle on account of humanistic, Christian notions that hold us down by their imprecision. It is also not sufficient to pay lip service to the New Order, since one paints everything with a certain political color. Of the greatest danger to us are the noncommittal plans and slogans that are everywhere springing up, but that lead only to self-deception, just like the 'new' concept of science, which is nothing more than the old, dresed up with a few anthropological trimgs."

was this satire?

>>9750087
>What other Heidegger books are great?
The Question Concerning Technology
The Origin of the Work of Art
Any of his aesthetics works really, the man was based

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>>9750308
I decided to read his lectures on Aristotle and ancient philosophy.

How are his aesthetics? Is Arendt similar?

>>9750087
>What other Heidegger works are great?

Beiträge zur Philosophy Vom Ereignis is perhaps the most important and influential Heidegger work post-Sein und Zeit. I would also say Was Heisst Denken? and all of Holzwege.

>>9750610
Sorry for being a faggot but could you recommend translations?

>>9750619
I don't know since I don't read Heidegger in english. I would say one thing though; it is problematic. With regards to Vom Ereignis I know there are two translations; one where the Ereignis concept is translated into en-owning and one where it is translated to event. The 'enowning' is an artificial word made up to replace ereignis in english, but it still does not catch the nuance that comes with the double meaning of ereignis both being an evental happening and an en-owning, er-eignen. And it is such an importance concept to grasp for both Heidegger and for (almost) all western continental philosophy following him. So stuff like that kind of gets lost when you translate.

>>9749548
just b yourself

>>9750120
>Being and Time isn't an argument in the sense of an attempt to prove the correctness of a set of propositions you can sum up in a /lit/ post, it's an 'experience' or 'journey' more like a Socratic dialogue than a typical philosophical monograph

Exactly. A journey into what matters, how it matters, and why it ought to matter without getting explicitly moralistic and instead referring to self-evident facts about existence from the way we exist.

>>9750029
yeah dude it's a book for 14 year olds
actually a character in the new spiderman movie has it on their desk

>>9750759
>>9750029
oh wait no a character in baby driver, sorry

>>9750082
If you would have read Heidegger you would never have used subject and object. Nothing is definitely not an object and Dasein is definitely not a subject for Heidegger. He rejects the Cartesian dichotomy outright.

Have you read Beings and Time yet Mr. Being and Time poster?

>>9750016
benis is time

>>9749591
>if the text is read in its original German it is possible to hear the vast number of what appear to be neologisms as attempts to reanimate the German language. According to this latter gloss, the linguistic constructions concerned—which involve hyphenations, unusual prefixes and uncommon suffixes—reveal the hidden meanings and resonances of ordinary talk
Sounds like chan dialect desu

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>>9752235
xDDDDDD ebin bilosophy

>>9750708
The distinction between analytical philosophy and continental philosophy is ridiculously fuzzy. The best (and only sharp) definiens for analytical philosophy is "the idea or goal to create an ideal formal language of logic, which can provide a foundment to itself in other words doesn't need any axioms (metaphysics) that can't be proven within the system", which isn't tried anymore. The philosophers especially the postmodernist mostly didn't understand him or in case of some Germans like Marcuse deliberately misinterpreted him. Heidegger tried nothing short of creating a "new beginning" of philosophy, but for the most part not completely managed to bring it about. Heidegger brought the idea of truth being "connected" to localities (places) and certain times (being) to a concept called "Dasein" being there. The postmodernist decided to take to role of for example Africans and claimed their "suppression" for them (impossible for Heidegger) and not only this, but also advanced it point to the universal truth of the west being evil or guilty for their success. Furthermore is truth for Heidegger related to the place and the time, but it's not arbitrary and one truth can't be compared to another truth. Where you could say there are many truth and they are all equal, what postmodernist do.

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>>9749585
Did you find one?

>>9753208
Is this google translate? Sorry skippy but this is unreadable

>>9750124
There are two short collected volumes called The Question Concerning Technology and Building, Dwelling, Thinking which are excellent, particularly their respective title essays. The Letter on Humanism is an underrated gem, but takes quite a bit of H to understand.

>>9750708
There is simply no way to read Heidegger in translation except to treat the english terms as a sort of code, where 'event' calls up the meanings of 'ereignis' instead of its english equivalent. This is easier with Heidegger than with french thinkers who also play with language, because Heidegger is so diligent at sticking to the technical meanings of his terms, rather than vacillating between technical and ordinary use. His discussion of his choice to use 'Gestell' in comparison to Plato's use of 'Eidos' sets out his attitude quite clearly - even in German, these are not the words as we know them.

>>9753208
Found the Peterson fag.

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>>9752235
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>>9750087
>What other Heidegger books are great?

His one on Nietczhe is great. He essentially makes a great argument against the notion that beauty is in the "eye of the beholder" or "in matters of preference there can be no dispute", and so on. He develops this notion that Art is a talent for revelation or revealing or some shit like that, and a classic work of art is always something more than "expressionism".

>>9752235
>>9752468
roflmao xD

ban

>>9752235
This was obviously written by a genius

>>9755236
na b.

>>9752235
What did he mean by this?

You need to stop thinking, and start thinking.

Martin H.

Why did he turn into a propagandist for Hitler and NSDAP?

>>9758586
He though it would bring about the conditions for a tripartite revolution for Germany, where philosophy, politics, and poetry would be combined. This clearly wasn't the case after Kristallnacht, and he eventually gave up on the Nazi party.

>>9759445
How did he get so "fooled"? I mean, I have barely nothing against people who support Nazi Germany but Martin's writings bout Hitler, NSDAP are some seriously weird shit.