Can /lit/ recommend any right-wing (but not /pol/-tier) literature?

>>9746874
Everything pre-20th century could be considered "right-wing" these days.

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St. Petersburg Dialogues

stop being a memevermin

You probably need to clarify your request a bit more

>>9746874
We, the Living.
>>9746880
Shut up. Trump is bringing back German Idealism.

>>9746879
Indeed. And on this note, start with Das Kapital.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflections_on_the_Revolution_in_France

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>pic related

people don't even know what left & right means in relations to politics etc

>>9746892
Marx was redpilled as fuck, he shits hard on black people in Das Kapital, even the left-wing people of that time were more conservative than right-wings these days.

>>9746874
Check out Foucault, an edgy reactionary flamboyant gay dude who triggers the shit out of Marxists. Basically the French milo.

>>9746874
Literally all of Thomas Sowell's written works.

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>>9746903
class conflict takes president over other forms of conflict.

if you eradicate class conflict through a dictatorship of the proletariat then all other forms of conflict (ethnic, gender etc) will naturally solve themselves, thus, Marx was quite influential in keeping feminists and campaigners for racial equality out of nascent american communist organisations......they would divert attention from the main event (class conflict) and divide people up into particular interests.

and guess what? Marx was right once again.

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>>9746912
>Basically the French milo.


Get out

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Anything by Milton Friedman

>>9746890
>German Idealism.

Yes

That's why he is an advocate of degeneracy

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>>9746874
pic related OP, ask about any author that you like from the list and i'll provide input if i've read it

>>9746979
do not choose like a retard, start with Plato

>>9746874
By What Standard by R.J. Rushdoony is a phenomenal critique of western thought from a hard right perspective, you might want to check out Cornelius Van Til and Herman Dooyeweerd while you're at it.

>>9746939
capital is the prime driver of deterritorialisation and the greatest destroyer of traditional values in human history though

>>9746912
Foucault is straight up a cultural Marxist though. That he disagrees with the economic and political theory of collective Marxism does not dilute that.

>>9746921
Thomas 'le based negro' sowell convinced me democrats are the REAL racists

>>9747000
>implying pederasty isn't trad

>>9746979
>Starship Troopers but not The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, AKA "How to Bomb the Terran Government"

>>9747002
>convinced
Doesn't take much convincing when the record shows that Democrats not only fought for slavery but also socially engineered the slave population to be willfully ignorant, welfare-dependent and prone to criminal behavior.

>>9747000
"M.F. I think I have in fact been situated in most of the squares on the political checkerboard, one after another and sometimes simultaneously: as anarchist, leftist, ostentatious or disguised Marxist, nihilist, explicit or secret anti-Marxist, technocrat in the service of Gaullism, new liberal and so on. An American professor complained that a crypto-Marxist like me was invited in the USA, and I was denounced by the press in Eastern European countries for being an accomplice of the dissidents. None of these descriptions is important by itself; taken together, on the other hand, they mean something. And I must admit that I rather like what they mean."

>>9747023
Okay so he's not outwardly a collectivist - may truthfully not be a collectivist at all.
Does not make him any less of a cultural Marxist.

>>9747023

>None of these descriptions is important by itself; taken together, on the other hand, they mean something. And I must admit that I rather like what they mean.

Typical Foucault, leaves us hanging.

What do they mean, praytell?

>>9746947
It's explained pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOk6HB609po

>>9747073
The right wing Zizek ladies and gentlemen.

>>9746874
Sure.
>Applied cuckholism for fun and profit
>A year in Costa Rica: Why abortion is for normies
>The Nieksch Diaries: No, he wasn't a character by Thomas Mann
>Those lovely men in their uniforms from Hugo Boss
>Among the hmong MEN, an observation of traditionalism initiation in the gay saunas of Portland

Check out a book called predisposed

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>>9747065
>>9747023

I remember when that guy that printed the first handgun with a 3d printer quoted that in an interview (as if he thought it up about himself) and looked like the supreme edgelord that he was.

>cody "I'm gonna make you cringe" wilson

>>9746874
Read Maistre for God's sake. Realise that politics since the Enlightenment has been absolute cancer.

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late baudrillard

>>9746892
You realize that half of the Frankfurt school would unironically be considered conservative by today's standards right?

>>9746939
>capitalism
>right-wing

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>>9746874
HUELLENBACQUE

Huntington

>>9747315
this, postmodernism added to foucaultian ideals of power and oppression and then given to the masses =/= frankfurt school

Murray Rothbard's Betrayal of the American Right, Patrick Buchanan's Death of the West and Allan Bloom's Closing of the American Mind. This is going to chronicle a fair amount of the American conservative of the last 70 years. From people that are sympathetic (Bloom), involved (Buchanan), and in and out (Rothbard).
>>9746890
>>9746894
Good suggestions
>>9746921
This is very good. Start with Conflict of Visions and Visions of the Anointed and read what interests you after
>>9746939
Shit

>>9746874

>tfw I get a nod from famous actors doing a hilarious skit satirizing me and I actually find it hilarious and very well done

>tfw I literally benefited a famed actor in a TV series with my persistence

>falling for the right/left dichotomy

Well met, brainlet.

>>9748274
There is a right and left. There is also a spectrum of right and left. What people agree to classify as right and left will always be different though.

>>9748286

Well met, brainlet.

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>>9746874
Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes

Not only is a must-read if you interested in political science, but also it defends the need of the state, the need of defeding something bigger than yourself, the importance of strict morals

Basically shits on everything that lefties believe in, which is mostly the autistic relative individual moral routine

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>>9748274
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_omHQwYh8

>>9748315
What version of Leviathan does lit generally recommend?

>>9748322

I'm a communist. The left/right bullshit is orchestrated by the bourgeoisie to keep the proletariat divided.

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Evola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YqKf3v2aPs

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A dumbass thinks that the best way to preserve capitalism is through less government interference and considers keynesian social democracy to be "socialism"
The true enlightened realize that keynesian social democracy (AKA "big gubermand") is the best way to preserve capitalism
see pic related

>>9748394
TIME TO RIDE THE TIGER BOYS

>>9748460
Fuck Bernie Sanders for changing the meaning of socialism, fucking Chomsky wannabe

>>9746874
Why not /pol/-tier? Having sound philosophy and economic policy depends on white influence, and preserving white influence and power is what "/pol/-tier" stuff usually is. They are completely correct about the primacy of race within each of these issues, so why not just read /pol/-tier stuff in the first place?

Read this to get started: http://thealternativehypothesis.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/AltHypeReader.pdf

>>9748330
Left right is literally just a simple way to illustrate where you stand on political and economical issues, it's not at all the reason the working class is divided.

The Turner Diaries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOk6HB609po

>>9746924
How do you prove that class conflict takes precedent over other kinds of conflict? By what measure? The existence of wealth inequality in general?

Also, the proclamation that class conflict alleviation will alleviate every other conflict has no evidence. It's just some proclamation. You have no data showing that elimination of class conflict eliminates racial and gender conflicts.

Also, other kinds of conflict, particularly identity conflicts, are OBVIOUSLY way more prevalent and class conflict is something that nobody cares about as the politics of western Europe and the USA become increasingly racialized.

And it's also not clear that class and ethnic conflicts are different in practice, since ethnic conflicts are often driven by between-group outcome inequalities (including income or class inequalities); which are then argued to be fair or unfair depending on which side you are on.

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>>9746874
>ctrl+f Vilfredo Pareto
>ctril+f Thomas Carlyle
>ctrl+f Oswald Spengler
>0 results
You used to be better, /lit/.

>>9749905

I haven't heard of the first two, but Spengler is all romantic fluff and arguing using symbolic analogies and other bugaboo. It is a waste of time to read him.

>>9748322
Liberalism can't survive without a measure of government-regulated commons either, otherwise you just get feudalism.

>>9746988
>those names are actually real

someone gotta stop the Pinecone

>>9749912
Eh, if that's what you think of him, Carlyle won't impress you either. Spengler actually had some good points to make on fertility, immigration, etc, and the breadth of his historical knowledge is always a good palliative for an increasingly amnesiac culture. Vilfredo Pareto's theory of elites should be of interest to pretty much everyone, though, including liberals.

>>9748322
K but the right is only authoritarian on immigration policy and would want a smaller government than what currently exists as the status quo in the USA.

And the pro-white collectivism is touted as a measure to preserve economic soundness, expressive freedom, and quality of life supported by whites in general more than brown people. And the people who most often tout horseshoe theory and laugh about "right wing SJWs" are 99% white and would have all of their civic preferences voted away by brown people.

So, yes, the horseshoe equivocation is vacuous and is kind of like when people jokingly say that "Hitler had ears... and you have ears... are you like Hitler!?" In other words, horseshoe theory takes the most inane aspects of the modern extreme left and right wings and pretends that therefore their policy implementations are both equally deserving of scorn, contingent upon the vacuous comparisons.

>>9747014
> mengsk did nothing wrong but simultaneously can't keep getting away with it

>>9749931
>fertility, immigration, etc.
That would be considered "/pol/-tier" because in a modern context it wink-wink-nod-nods at brown people being giant buttholes. You might as well read data-based stuff on that, like The Alternative Hypothesis, one of several excellent HBD blogs (Chuck, HBDchick, Emil Kierkegaard, etc.) or researchers like Murray, Rushton, and Jensen.

Pety J

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>>9749956
>excellent HBD blogs
>blogs

Good work in here everyone.

if you want to understand the tenants fundamentally of "liberalism" (and not the perverse way Americans use that word), you should read John Stuart Mill, the Federalist Papers, and Locke.

>>9746874
Thomas Sowell is probably a good choice.

If you want to grow a healthy hatred communism I would recommend Dostoyevsky's Demons.

Genealogy of morals
Revolt against the modern world
Turner diaries
Thom Sowell basic economics or whatever by him
White identity by Jared taylor

David Duke

>>9749921
Presbyterians have wack names

>>9752372
True, true.

>>9751763
This reading list is obviously in conflict with itself.

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>>9746879

Choosing to read books at all is a reactionary act in itself.

What are some books that justify war and killing other people?

>>9754248
Your diary?

>>9753851
It's a diverse array of right wing opinions outside of the establishment of neoconservatism

>>9754248
Crime and punishment
Wasp factory

>>9746890
And completing the system, at that.

Kallocain by Karin Boye (publ. 1940). Often categorized as a dystopic novel, but I think of it as optimistic in that it presents a solution to the problem of totalitarian states: when people start speaking their minds (in the novel due to a sort of truth drug), the whole complex of political correctness and absolute power breaks down. And that is the essence of the modern term 'red pilled' from the Matrix movies. The active substance in 'the red pill,' is Kallocain.

>>9748330
Indeed. Replace "bourgeoisie" with "jew", and you'd be a Nazi. Both Marxism/Communism and National Socialism are overly reductive and misguided in their attempts to attribute the majority of the sociological, political, and economic problems that our civilization faces to a single group of people or social institution (e.g. the Jews, Capitalism, the Bourgeoisie, etc.).

To a large extent society sucks because humans "suck" - we're flawed beings. No rearrangement or reorganization of the human social system is going to change that. Of course improvements can be made, but no arrangement is going to achieve what Marxists or conservatives expect it to.

What we need is the classical liberalism of early British political philosophers and the American Revolution (along with a few laws to protect the environment, consumers, etc.).

>>9755489
>replace bourgeoise with Jew and you'd be a Nazi
Finally someone fucking said it. I swear it's been blindingly obvious for a long time now that the globalists, Jews, elites, and bourgeoise all refer to the same group. These ideologies, while far from being the same, aren't polar opposites like many consider them to be.

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>>9747000
"cultural marxism"

>>9755505
the only difference is that the bourgeoise isn't composed entirely of jews, you can't prove every rich person is jew but you can prove every rich person is a bourgeois

>>9746874
>right-wing (but not /pol/-tier) literature? On philosophy, economic policy
Noone even mentioned Friedrich Hayek? His ritual murder of socialism is epic. The Road To Serfdom and The Fatal Conceit: the Errors of Socialism

>>9746890
>Trump is bringing back German Idealism.
is this seriously what /pol/ thinks?

>>9755505
It serves a purpose. You need a scapegoat to channel the resentment brought by memetic desire.
Check Girard

>>9746921
Rothbard*. Sowell's alright but a monetarist is a monetarist

>>9755620
This. Not sure why people cling to Friedman and Sowell so hard anymore.

>>9755505
that's why marx or some other 19th century dickhead said "anti-semitism is the socialism of fools" in the sense that you're trying to scapegoat a religion for the inexorable development of a mode of production, you can see this on /pol/ a lot, someone will call a classic wasp capitalist like Rockefeller or Bill Gates a "jew" meanwhile talking about how they love Android (created by Andy Rubin) etc.

>>9756785
Sowell wrote some interesting stuff about American culture, but I wouldn't look to a historian for monetary policy advice, for that you should consult a jew

>>9746892
It's true. The concept of the lumpenprolitariat is about as close to "Kill the fucking poor" as it gets, it's positively Hoppean by today's standards.

>>9755606
It's a kantbot joke. Nobody on /pol/ knows what German Idealism is, and they'd probably hate it if they did.

>>9755582
The difference is that the bourgeois doesn't exist, and Jews do.

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>>9746874
As said before, all of Sowell. Also, check out Rothbard's Anatomy of the State, FA Hayek's Road to Serfdom, and John Stuart Mill's On Liberty.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/34901/34901-h/34901-h.htm

Mill is a classic liberal, which is what conservatism in the US used to be about. Geo. Washington was absolutely correct about parties destroying the nation. Look at what we've become.

>>9746874
Read The Wealth of Nations. By the time you finish it you'll have died of age, and the question will be moot.

>>9749931
>Theory of elites
>just a pessimistic, industrialized take on the Great Man

>>9748090
>>9756814
i'm a libertarian and a huge fan of Rothbard, its very refreshing to see others recommend him. thanks.

The books that had the largest influence on me were "Rights of Man by Thomas Paine" and "The Death of the West by Pat Buchanan"

>>9746939
last semester, I had a professor who studied under friedman and told us some stories about how the U of Chicago economics department was ran when Friedman, Thiel, Mundell were there, among others
can tell some stories if anyone is interested

>>9748315
>*need* of the state
>Basically shits on everything that lefties believe in,
you are unironically retarded.

If I read Pound, Juenger, von Salomon, Carlyle, Mosley, Varange, Codreanu, Cioran, Deví, GEntile, & Sorel, as well as secondary literature,
can I then call myself a Fascist?

>>9748327
>>he thinks /lit/ has actually read anything

>>9755559
What a numale cuck of a man.

>>9755489
"Jews" aren't a social institution though.

The political and legal systems are openly set up to benefit the wealthy.

>>9748330
National bolshevism when, comrade?

>>9746874
Carl Schmitt and Leo Strauss are my homeboys. Also Gramsci and Sorel but they weren't rightwingers.

>>9748327
The Oxford Worlds Classics edition is good. Be wary though, Leviathan is very dry. Might also wanna get a secondary work examining it. sreedhar's book was good, she opens up beyond the focus on the state entity to discuss the contract Hobbes describes and the interplay between the ruler and the ruled.

>>9754248
Summa Theologica
The just War canon as a whole

>>9748315
>Hobbes
Low-key liberalism. Do not read.

>>9758483
How illiterate are you. Hobbes is, if anything, responding to the liberalism of his time which resulted in a bloody series of wars in England that saw it go from monarchy to republic for a short period of time.

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Read the western canon.

The culture, ideals and ideas they portray are highly right-wing in nature(by the political spectrum standards of today).

>>9758500
The fact that Hobbes contributes to social contract theory with a rather odd work does not make him a conservative. He basically took liberalism and gave it a different spin. Read Schmitt and edumacate yourself.

>>9756814

>Mill is a classic liberal

Mill was a market socialist, you wing nut.

>>9758507
heck, nowadays even borderline communists that want some kind of border protection are called far-right. So even 2015 Obama can be a right ring writer by 2017 standards

>>9758087
sure thing kiddo hehe

>>9754096
That's a very nice webm.

>>9757570
Hit me

>>9747113

HA

>>9754096
Who is that gal?

>>9758522
Gratuitous name dropping is just a pretentious way of running from an argument because you can't counter an opponent. You read something that disputes me? Explain the idea and cite it, don't just present it without any evidence. And again, Hobbes cannot be liberal he has such a huge focus on state authority and monarchy.

>>9758526
levioSAH, leviOHsa

>>9746874
Concept of the Political - Carl Schmitt
On Power - Bertrand de Jouvenal
Revolt of the Masses - José Ortega y Gasset

>>9746902
the author is a left winger. op asked for right wing literature

Reinhart Koselleck

>>9759967

Mary Elizabeth Winstead or MEW for short.

>>9762656
Other than being associated with Schmitt what really makes him considered especially right wing?

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>>9746912
>Basically the French milo.