Where do I start with the Pre-Socratics?

>>9695309
with the greeks

>>9695312
Serious pls

>>9695309
History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps podcast

Doesn't matter, all you'll get are a few fragments and letters, some of them in the form of "...and I tell you that [unreadable] is the [lost part] of the cosmic f[ire?]." You'll be done in a few days.

>>9695309
Thales

Diogenes Laertius' 'Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers' is the primary resource for pre-Socratics.

>>9695431
or you could read the most recent version of Diels-Kranz and get everything

>>9695443

Sure, but doesn't change the fact Laertius is a good read.

Homer and Hesiod

Nietzsche's Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks is an interesting read

>>9695460
you got me there
I wish some respectable publisher would come out with a new edition of the Lives
all we have now are expensive Loeb editions and shitty cheapo CreateSpace ones of the same old translation

>>9695319
Good recommendation. OUP's Very Short Introduction on the Pre-Socratics is also very good but doesn't present the philosophers in chronological order so I'd recommend either that podcast or a decent History of Philosophy (Kenny or Coppleston) first. Or if you have a background in philosophy you can get any of the collected fragments (Penguin, Oxford, and Hackett are all good), and Jonathan Barnes helpful book The Presocratic Philosophers.

>>9695309
Oxford World Classics or Kirk Raven Schofield

Pre-Socratics are a shitty meme.

>>9695473

Agreed, is that what they're called--Createspace? I have had to buy far too many of these public domain txt file downloaded from gutenberg books for my liking. I wish I had to the money to open a printing press, there are plenty of books I would like to put back on the market.

>>9695607
the random shitty looking editions of public domain texts you find on, say, amazon are usually published via a print-on-demand self-publishing platform like CreateSpace, yeah