The Phenomenology of the Ideological Co-Option of Nietzsche

ngl he on that yeet

Because his thought is so vague that it can be used to support literally anything and backed up by citations that justify anything you want them to, since they're so manifold and contradictory

>>9667380
Because not all philosophers are equal. Nietzche marks a new era in philosophy. Sort of like how there is a line drawn between Plato/Socrates and everything that came before it.

In the 20th and 21st you are not responding to Nietzsche in some you are simply not doing philosophy.

>>9667746
>it's a "nietszche marks a new era in philosophy" episode

how's the jordan peterson video going?

>>9667380
Because he single handly turned philosophy upside down forever
90% of analytic philosophy is and will always be a joke because they disregard him
I unironically think he is the smartest person who has existed, he is the only legit case of too intelligent to have a gf

>>9667746
Nietzsche was a proto-postmodernist deconstructivist cultural marxist

tried to destroy white values

>>9667769
Why don't you actually address the issue instead of name dropping some celebrity? Name a philosophy with any influence nearly approaching Freddy.

Pretty much the entity of ethics in the 20th and 21st century is a response to Genealogy. That's just the effect of one of his books.

>>9667782
Gets his philosophy knowledge from the internet

>>9667798
name one good reason why I should read your shitty pseud pop-philosopher & it can't be something vague like "he really tied everything together" or "he marked a revolution in the way we think about things"

>>9667380
He looks too comfy to be psychotic
Was he just LARPing?

>>9667815
re-read the OP

>>9667380
There's been a resurgence of schopenhauerian thought lately.

>>9667815
Whether you read ANY books at all is not my concern. Since you want to avoid actually discussing philosophy books and writers you probably don't. Piss off.

>>9667825
the reason why "every ideology has co-opted" him was that he was very good at making big, "inspiring" statements that amount to "pull yourself out of the gutter" or "just be yourself bro". there isn't an ounce of useful thought in neechee and you plebs know it. he is exactly what OP is afraid to say he is: a vague pseudo-philosopher who's life's work was to be the mouthpiece for other people's ideology

>>9667846
It's clear you get your understanding of him from internet videos.

The reason Nietzche was co-opted by every faction was for the same reason every other giant of philosophy gets on everyone's team. It is incredibly easy to cherry pick out the stuff that critisizes your enemy while ignoring the text that critisizes your team. Nietzche had Catholics in his corner because he gave a smack down to Martin Luther, they passed around the anti-Protestant texts and hand-waved away the rest. Relativists liked his text that criticizes epistemology and that talked about how morality is a social construct and they ignore the texts where he establishes that some social constructs are nessiary and they are not equal.


It's the same reason everyone and their mother was a Platonist or Aristotelian in the past.

>>9667781
lmao

>>9667380
Reactionary here.
How the fuck did we co opt the dude who literally opposes everything we agree in?

>>9667470
this, even actual accepted analysis of his work varies significantly

9/10 of nietzsche is self evident or unoriginal

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What's annoying is that Neitzsche is a fag. Stirner went further than he did.

>>9667948
>Nietzsche
>giant
Lol

Stirner was the original Edge lord who was basically a proto-postmodernist. Calling everything he didn't like a "Spook" (Or was that just his cancerous fanbase"

Nietzsche wasn't some nihilistic, relativistic edgelord. He was merely against the degeneration of European society by Christianity and its offshoots (Liberalism, socialism). Nietzsche wanted an Aristocratic hierarchy.

Nietzsche was pro-white. He wanted to return Europe to its pagan values of strength, will, and courage. And free it from Christian guilt, pity, and other decadent slave morality.

He was more pro-European than almost any other philosopher.

>>9668701

Found the Petersonfag. Stirner wasn't a "proto-postmodernist", there's no such thing. And Stirner's worldview could be deconstructed by post-modernism.

Also, no he didn't call everything he didn't like "spooks", because a spook isn't an inherently bad thing. Go clean your room autist.

>>9668716

>He wanted to return Europe to its pagan values of strength, will, and courage

The fact you're talking about European paganism as if it was monolithic and homogeneous is testament to your stupidity.

>>9667380
>The Phenomenology of the Ideological Co-Option of Nietzsche
Do you actually know what 'phenomenology' means?

>>9667380
Well, he's barely a philosopher - he rarely addresses being or epistemology. He is really much more of a social critic, art critic, psychologist, and would-be historian. And his writing style is over-the-top. So he appeals to all those people who find most actual philosophy which deals with actual philosophical issues, such as being, incomprehensible. He appeals to people who are interested in the ontic, the contingent more than they are interested in the ontological, the mystical, the essential. Nothing wrong with that. It's just that more people are interested in the former than in the latter.

>>9668787
I remember hearing watching a stanford lecture on Nietzsche and one of the exact line was the professor sarcastically asking "What is the nature of being" and went onto to say that Nietzsche criticized such questions as meaningless with no relationship to the real world.

The whole idea of "being" kind of ends with Nietzsche. I think one of his quotes is "Being is an empty fiction" which is to say not only is it bullshit but it's boring. Your'e literally better off reading comic books, at least those sometimes relate to the real world.

His perspectivist epistemology is a ridiculously powerful tool. It's basically relativity applied to more than just math and years before Einstein.

>>9668730
The fact you assume he was talking asbout European paganism as monolithic and homogenous thing is testament to your stupidity.

>>9668351
Because some people care more about truth than protecting their innocence in their beliefs?

>>9667380
Because he is extremely complex and easy to misinterpret. It's very easy to grab random things out of context and use them for your own personal gain.

>>9667470
His thought is complex, not vague or contradictory. It is vague precisely to the people who haven't read him closely and who misinterpret him.

>>9668787
>barely a philosopher
More of one than anyone from the Enlightenment period.

>>9668787
> barely a philosopher
more like the only philosopher