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is math a tautology?

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6.124 The propositions of logic describe the scaffolding of the world, or rather they represent it. They have no 'subject-matter'. They presuppose
that names have meaning and elementary propositions sense; and that is their connexion with the world. It is clear that something about the world must be indicated by the fact that certain combinations of symbols--whose essence involves the possession of a determinate character--are tautologies. This contains the decisive point. We have said that some things are arbitrary in the symbols that we use and that some things are not. In logic it is only the latter that express: but that means that logic is not a field in which we express what we wish with the help of signs, but rather one in which the nature of the absolutely necessary signs speaks for itself. If we know the logical syntax of any sign-language, then we have already been given all the propositions of logic.

6.341 Newtonian mechanics, for example, imposes a unified form on the description of the world. Let us imagine a white surface with irregular
black spots on it. We then say that whatever kind of picture these make, I
can always approximate as closely as I wish to the description of it by covering the surface with a sufficiently fine square mesh, and then saying
of every square whether it is black or white. In this way I shall have imposed a unified form on the description of the surface. The form is optional, since I could have achieved the same result by using a net with a triangular or hexagonal mesh. Possibly the use of a triangular mesh would have made the description simpler: that is to say, it might be that we could describe the surface more accurately with a coarse triangular mesh than with a fine square mesh (or conversely), and so on. The different nets correspond to different systems for describing the world. Mechanics determines one form of description of the world by saying that all propositions used in the description of the world must be obtained in a
given way from a given set of propositions--the axioms of mechanics. It thus supplies the bricks for building the edifice of science, and it says, 'Any building that you want to erect, whatever it may be, must somehow be constructed with these bricks, and with these alone.' (Just as with the number-system we must be able to write down any number we wish, so with the system of mechanics we must be able to write down any proposition of physics that we wish.)
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http://www.iep.utm.edu/wittmath/
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>>9666247
thanks - whats your take? matter of opinion?
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>>9666259
It's a language game, one of our best.

You should also look up Gödel.
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>>9666232
>If we know the logical syntax of any sign-language, then we have already been given all the propositions of logic.
yeah, undergrads love to talk about axioms, but the crucial delirium is the inference rules.

anyway, people are naturally rationalist and they whine that their imagination is rendered sterile by any empiricist.
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>>9666276
but there arent different languages. theres only one arithmetic, no? there are different geometries, but that's different.

its axioms are also empirically verified, no?
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Not only a tautology but a useless one too.
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Is it still a tautology if you cant fit all of it in your head?
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>>9666415
yeah why not
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>>9666392
You started a thread on W without knowing what a language game is?
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>>9666515
you mean, he did something without knowing what the rule was, thus confirming W.
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>>9666515
yeah ive only read tractatus, starting PI
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>>9666449
Well its no longer trivial at that point
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>>9666232

No it's synthetic a priori propositions.
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Why are lit nerds allowed to talk about math when they fail basic calculus?
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