/QTDDTOT/ - Questions that don't deserve their own thread

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Did I really read Lolita if I didn't understand any of the french

>>9663124
If you have to ask then the Waste Land isn't meant for you

>>9663154
How are oyu supposed to comprehend the poem unless you have something telling you explaining every aspect like this
http://genius.it/5735680/www.bartleby.com/201/1.html
the various languages should be hard enough but then it is so random and arbitrary at times it is near impossible to follow.
How then am I not the "right" person to understand "the Waste Land?
>>9663124
At certain points maybe it would have added a bit but no. The german in the novel also isn't too important.

>>9663138
>>9663194
>At certain points maybe it would have added a bit but no. The german in the novel also isn't too important.

I wasn't around /lit/ when Hypershpere was being written. What was the board like at that time? How was the finished book recieved here? Did people actually read it?

Are the translations of the greeks better in Spanish or English?

Where should I post writing for people to critique?

How do you pronounce 'deterritorialization'?

>>9663124
What I got was that society is on the spiritual decline (i had not thought death had undone so many), and that true meaning is born out of hardship (the thunder passages). love can flower in comfort, but not bloom, there's no substance (why do you not speak ect.)
Do you think there's some connection between the sphinx and the crowd at london bridge? is the sphinx a symbol for our society?

this is my favorite poem

How should I start with Shakespeare's histories?

>>9663431
I've only read Gredos translations and think they're great. Also, very useful footnotes, introductions and other anotations. Would recommend.

>>9664864
You should look for crit or critique threads like: >>9649919 . If there are none start one yourself

>>9664882
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/deterritorialization
>pronounciation

>>9665686
Thank you. Not sure how I managed to miss that thread earlier.

>>9663246
It seemed like a minority of people participating, and didn't really catch on as a collaborative board project. To me anyway.

Where do I find /lit/ friends who aren't SJWs? I'm a socialist but I am sick of all the moral righteousness and PC obsession of today's Leftist youth
i just want to hang out with people who are passionate about art wihtout making everything political

>>9665740
good luck with that, best bet is to find some sanderist democrats of proletarian origin or maybe some bourgeois trotskyists who are comfy but can still throw down a mean class analysis if the mood is right

>>9665740
Right here, friend :^)
portland{/spoiler]

>>9665740
Chapo house folk I guess, though they also irritate me

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Who am I?

>>9663246
I have one of the first printings, never read it apart from the mde and zizek erotica segments

>>9665740
Look for žižekfags

>>9665825
Zizek looks as though he is really, really smelly.

What Pynchon book should I read after GR? Preferably one that is a little less complicated in terms of prose/language, for a non native English speaker.

>>9666793
Inherent Vice is easy to read.

>>9665803
A game.

>>9666793
V.

>>9666898
>>9667079
Late, already ordered CoL49

If my short story gets published in a magazine, can I still include it in a collection and send it to another publisher afterwards?

>>9667543
Depends on the magazine and whether or not they actually bought the rights. My guess is that you cannot publish it elsewhere. Read the terms and conditions of submission.

>>9664951
War of the Roses series in order if you really like Shakespeare

Roman histories if you just want blood

where do i start with Borges? Collected fictions is too expensive in my country.

>>9667712

His first major collection Ficciones or his famous collection Labyrinths are both standard choices.

>>9667725
Thanks. I'll go with Ficciones then.

Is Edmund Spenser's Faerie Queene worth the effort?

>>9667752
The Aleph is quite good too and in my opinion easier than certain parts of Ficciones.

>>9663124
whos the qt

>>9667776
I read parts of Aleph on a snowy mountainous honeymoon with my wife some years ago. She left me within 6 months after that because i couldn't understand it. That was the trigger, not joking.

It took me 6 years to gather courage to pick up Borges again. I don't mind difficulty now. I'm already half-dead. Vive l'amour.

>>9665740
come hang out on /leftypol/ my friend

>>9667757

Imo the quintessential Renaissance text in this language; unfairly underread nowadays. Tough but worth it.

>>9668110
I would but the board is so slow

Please rank the philosophers you've read from easiest to hardest

How good of an understanding will I get of Jung's work from Man and His Symbols? Do I need to go deeper?

>>9668327
montaigne
aristotle
stirner
descartes
plato
nietsche
wittgenstein

>>9668327
No philosophy is that difficult. Having a good brain is.

Where can I buy hardcover French language books? I only ever find paperbacks.

>>9663124
who's this gobblin' goblin?

>>9668378
What did he mean by this?

>>9665740
You don't, your the equivalent of a dinosaur, extinct. We're living in a time where conservatives are having educated discussion with actual depth and compromise and the Academic left-wing elite are howling at each other like baboons, what a time to be alive.

>>9665740
>Where do I find /lit/ friends who aren't SJWs?
right wing circles.

the left is done.

Where do I start when it comes to roman literature? I have not read anything and I am not sure where to start

>>9668489
Right Wing youth are just as if not more political. They can't enjoy a piece of art if it signals to them anything left of center

>>9668557
sure they're political, but not sjws. you can at least speak your mind around them without trigger warnings.

Is it true people in Alaska wear hats with lights so they don't get depressed?

>>9663124
Which one of you fucking fag cucks told her to kill herself?
https://youtu.be/3gIFqBdRsvE
I'm coming for you assholes!

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What language do i need to know before read The Finneagains Wake?

>>9668590
The only language that matters, American Standard English.

>>9668590
all

>>9668391
quebec

I have been playing video games my whole life and I'm kind of sick of them at this point. I want to pretty much drop them entirely and pick up reading. The problem is I have no fucking clue what to read. What the hell should I read? Please no Greek memes.

>>9668623
depends what you like.

if you want a book suggestion, I just finished reading With The Old Breed At Peleliu And Okinawa and it was very good. easy read too.

>>9668590
ehm

*BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAP*

>>9667659
Should I read them in order (i.e. Richard II - Henry V) or does it not matter?

>>9668658
doesn't really matter but might as well

>>9668623
The Iliad just The Iliad the fucking Iliad its practically a videogame and has more action in it than most other classics. Plus it can be read as a treatise on the morality of the gods' interference with the world of men and Achilles is quite the deconstruction of a Classical Greek hero when looking at it in retrospect

>>9668623
I read mostly just Chinese Xianxia novels which are basically just RPGs

>>9668939
Stop fucking saying this. "The Iliad has action dude so it's a great start!" Yeah, it has action, and it also has narrative choices that are unfamiliar for the modern reader, and it also has a whole history and mythology knowledge hurdle. People should start with something accessible and entry-level (like the stuff in the sticky), not the fucking Iliad.

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>>9663124
does anyone know where i can find JMR lenz translated to english? all i can find is a questionable paperback of the tutor and a 30 dollar primer

>>9668585
no, that would be silly. why would you move to alaska if you don't want to be depressed anyway?

>>9668539
it really, really depends on what you want to get out of it. there are different lists for historical knowledge, literary knowledge, philosophy, entertainment, etc.

>>9669233
The Iliad is not to hard for beginners at all..Honestly if you can't figure out the mythology and history just by reading the intro and having a grade school education, you're a brainlet. I mean that seriously

>>9667072
I said who, not what.

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>>9663124
Is there a /lit/ Discord server, and if there is why have I not been invited to it yet?

>>9669233
The Iliad, especially the Fagles translation, is babby tier difficulty. You don't need to read anything before it.

why do people say gr and ij are hard to read
they are just long

>>9668623
The Magus John Fowles

What's the best grammar and syntax bible? I'm hoping for something like "When You Catch An Adjective, Kill It", but more comprehensive and encyclopedic.

Ive read depressing lit before, but I'm halfway through Dubliners (just through the story of the man who gets reproached at work, pawns his watch to drink with friends, the goes home to beat his child). This is the most depressing dark thing I've read. I don't often see people refer to it as that, so I'm curious to others thoughts on the matter. A Little Cloud destroyed me as well

>>9668327
Sebayt Literature
Wisdom Literature
Darwin
Heraclitus
Hebrew Bible
Peirce
Upanishads
Foucault
Girard
Freud
Jung
Andy Clark
Aristotle
Plato
MacIntyre
Wittgenstein
Nietzsche
Agamben
Baudrillard
Kant
Heidegger
Laozi
Late Heidegger
New Testament

>>9668341
Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious

>>9669799
Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia + Novum Testamentum Graece

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>>9663124
>Still reading Eliot

Does anyone have any good refutations or reconsiderations of R.A.W's prometheus rising? Im looking more for such on the prior half of the book, and not the more bogus latter half. Although his terminology is wack, I can't help but agree with the first four circuits

What does /lit/ think of Library of America subscription service? Or just their series in general?
Good for beginners?

>>9669280
>>9669775
I'm not even saying it's hard, I'm saying that it's a hurdle. It's an easy hurdle to overcome, but if your goal is to ease people into literature, then you should recommend something more accessible. You should assume that you're dealing with people who have almost no patience or experience.

Anyway this conversation has been had a million times so whatever

>>9663124
Look up Eliot's life at the time and maybe it'll make more sense.

If there was water, but there is none

what is wrong with pragmaticism?

>>9669990
Nothing

What's wrong with Longfellow's translation of Dante? Reading reviews online, he seems very reliable.

>>9670004
There has to be something wrong with it.

IMPORTANT: should I put maple syrup on my hash browns?

>>9670147
Only if you have no tastebuds or brainstem.

>>9670149

I added salt. Plenty of it.

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>>9670149

>>9670162
what the fuck is wrong with your arm

>>9670176
that is the mark of a 3rd degree chemical burn I got in a 2nd year chem lab. Also, I have freckles.

>>9669711
Because you obviously need to lurk more

What are some good books for getting to know gnosticism

Does Beowulf fight Grendel's mother underwater? Or is it in a cavern with a pocket of air?

>>9670209
Nag Hammadi and various Apocrypha

>>9670209
Plato's Timaeus, but you should read Phaedo and Republic first
New Oxford Annotated Bible with Apocrypha
Nag Hammadi Scriptures by Meyer
Hermetica: The Greek Corpus Hermeticum and the Latin Asclepius by Brian P. Copenhaver
Enneads by Plotinus
The Gnostics: Myth, Ritual, and Diversity in Early Christianity by David Brakke

>>9665787
Hey, I'm in portland too! I would love to meet up.

[email protected]

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Should I read The Count of Monte Cristo or Don Quixote?

>>9670462
DQ

>>9669975
guys

I just bought maldoror by lautreamont off of the internet. What am in for? I bought it cause of current 93.

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When I'm writing I feel that my action and violence lacks any punch and grit. Is there any book that does these well and in a descriptive manner?

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someone PLEASE help me, I can't for the life of me find a suitable The Illiad by Homer, translated by Robert Fagles file. I've check KAT, ThePirateBay, archive.org, LibGen, Biblio, a search that indexes all of those and more, and the first 10 pages of google.

>>9663124

How does one write a short story

I'm in a fiction writing class and need to write a 10 page one by tonight, but I haven't learned shit and still am not sure about plot structure or effective characterization.

Please send help

>>9671602
Iliad, unironically

>>9671762
do u want it in mobi, pdf, mp3 or epub

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What's a good intro to Sartre?

After reading "Existentialism is a Humanism" I think I would like to read some of Sartre's novels. I've been suggested Nausea, but don't know if it'd be the best starting place or not.

>>9671951

Age of Reason, then the sequels if you care to.

Nausea is just a paranoid depressed episode, Sartre exorcises a lot of his demons in that book. I enjoyed it, though I'd never read it again.

>>9671863
Ok then. Which edition and translation then? I've heard so many conflicting things.

Is society the highest logical step life can make before plateauing? Seriously, every day I try and think of something to do with my life that is beneficial to humankind. But I only ever conclude that anything I do now just widens the plateau. Not even nihilism, it just feels like life comes together to realize it's just a fleeting experience. How can I justify personal gain when all of humanity strove toward society? Even if through personal gain? It sought to bolster one to rule many justly, but any more it feels like people are just fodder to the machine that convinces people not to jump off the edge simply because they were born on top. How can I overcome this? I want to not wake up crushed everyday, and everytime I try to begin something I just become crushed soon again.

>>9672024
Fagles

>>9671789
Write about a personal experience using pseudonyms for the people and places involved. Get good at doing that and then you can devise your own.

>>9663124
sauce on pic related please?

>>9672121
https://youtu.be/3gIFqBdRsvE

books or poetry that deal with light femdom?

>>9672092
Read Bowling Alone by Michael D. Putnam and What Money Can't Buy by Michael J. Sandel.

>>9672729
I'll give you the same answer as with all things femdom: write your own porn.

>>9671951
His autobiography, 'Words' is another good starting point.

If you want to get into his philosophy, begin with his essay 'The Emotions: Outline of a Theory.' Then I say go to 'The Transcendence of the Ego.' Those two will set you up to understanding 'Being and Nothingness,' which is a masterpiece.

Sartre really fell off after that. His big late work is the Critique of Dialectical Reason, but it's honestly not worth your time. Instead just read 'Search for a Method,' basically the prolegomenon to the Critique, but only 100 pages long.

>>9667757
It's good but it's not fantastic. V useful if you plan on getting stuck into Paradise Lost.

>>9672892
>Sartre really fell off after that
I've noticed that all of the French Post-structuralists fall off hard, they either quietly abandoned their own personal philosophy after realizing the harm they did to the socialist parties in France or somebody writes a biography that reveals they were indescribably bad at living as a decent human being.

>>9672935
I've never seen Sartre described as a post-structuralist. He was the quintessential existentialist, a phenomenologist, and really a transcendental idealist at heart. His philosophy went to shit when he tried to combine it with Marxism. How can we have an existentialist Marxism was the question that dominated his later work. The answer is that they're absolutely opposed to one another, and not even a philosophical wiz-kid like Sartre can bring them together.

>>9672935
It's fucking hilarious when you read the whitewashing on Wikipedia

>Sartre remained a simple man with few possessions
Yeah because he spent it all on meth, downers and rent boys.

>>9671877
either epub or pdf based anon

>>9673004
lol rent boys. Can I get a footnote on that Anon?

>>9673016
Trouble finding seeders, they're not always on. Will keep you updated if anything changes.

>>9673034
Go read a biography of de Beauvoir, Sartre liked them young.

>>9673057
so long as they're cute, its not gay. the dick only makes it better

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>>9668346
>aristotle easier than nietzsche

did you just read ethics? I plan on hopping back into Aristotle soon and filling in gaps/re-reading.

>>9668327
>Plato (easiest in terms of he's infinitely re-readable and enjoyable, not in terms of him not being deep--because he's best.)
>Aurelius
>Seneca
>Jesus
>Cicero
>Nietzsche (his prose [kaufmann translation] is hard to get used to
>Thomas Aquinas
>Aristotle

>>9668658
Henry VI plays might cause you to lose interest, but if you're dedicated then read them chronologically. I read them in order of release date (Shakespeare wrote Henry VI I, II, and III before the others, and even more befuddling, he wrote THOSE out of order too).

Honestly, read Richard III first, twice, and then go back to the beginning. Personally the history plays are my least favorite, but Henry IV, Richard III, and Henry V are fantastic (people around here say Richard II is great, but I've only read it once.

>>9668539
The Greeks, really. BUT... great essentials are:
>Ovid - Metamorphoses, Art of Love
>Virgil - Aeneid
>Cicero - De Amicitiae, De Senectute, De Officis, De Natura Deorum... everything really
>Martial - Epigrams (a personal favorite)
>Catallus - poems
>Seneca - Epistulae Ad Lucilium

>>9669233
>>9669280
yeah, I feel bad for anyone who couldn't/can't enjoy the iliad as a starter book

>>9669786
gr is tough at some points--admit it

>>9670038
nothing.

>>9671602
yeah-- How to Stop Watching Anime in 30 days: A Beginner's Guide

>>9672729
Circe, Ulysses - Joyce

Does anyone have the book chart for a beginner's interest in politics / developing critical thinking? One of the first books listed was The Republic.

>>9673139
Never mind, I found it.

>Read Hamlet
>It's fucking awesome
>Watch a production of Hamlet
>It's fucking god awful, nobody can act to save their life
Is this going to be a running trend?

>>9673093
>armpit hair
>plucked and drawn eyebrows
>dyed hair
>make up

women are a meme

>>9670462
I just finished Monte Cristo. It is indeed very entertaining for such a big book but it feels like it was written for poor people with no education. It has its moments but mostly it's very very predictable and quite pedestrian.

TDR - DQ

>>9673185
can you post chart?

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Not a question but here's my summer reading

I want to read Kant, should I start with Prolegomena or with his introduction to logic?

>>9671762
Someone has already uploaded one to LibGen, look harder next time.

http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=027aa7726dbcf607a29281594c8f1721&open=0

>>9674687
Prolegomena

>>9672138
i could listen to her babbling for hours desu
no idea what she's trying to say tho

What's the best e. e. cummings collection?

why is Don Delilo so underrated on this board? I've only ever seen white noise disscussed.

>>9668409
>educated discussion with actual depth and compromise

kek

>>9671762
https://mega.nz/#!b1F0EayT!i8g_a2qDbfc-rlwSBZCWONPf3xRn4sMQM6B6cNFMbAY
contains an epub

>>9675902
i read white noise and thought there was very little that was interesting in it, so i never felt like reading another. i figure others are like that

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Any good novels involving technologically advanced ancient civilizations?

>>9675906
>Latest Socialist thread on /lit/ got deleted because it devolved into Marxists spamming ironic memes at each other
>Meanwhile the Nrx/Dark Enlightenment threads have been going smoothly for months now
Seems about right

>>9663124
I'm working on a project right now and I'd like to write it from the perspective of a character that the reader is not supposed to like. I want the focus to be on the story itself as seen by this character.

I'm having a hard time doing this as I essentially want to have the character mentioned be stupider than myself while not having to compromise on things like vocabulary or well put together thoughts or ideas.

Any advice?

>>9668030
hope ur ok my man

What prerequisite reading should I have done before Shakespeare (other than the bible, of course), in order to get the most out of it?

>>9674677
But isn't the Myth of Sisyphus rather short?

What does Aristotle mean when he says that natural science is theoretical?

>>9676606
Chaucer, Shakespeare was obsessed with him.

>>9676628
Thanks anon. Do you happen to have any recommendations for which published versions are the best for Chaucer's works?

>The text of this revised Norton Critical Edition of Leo Tolstoy’s epic novel is based on the Louise and Aylmer Maude translation
>>based on
Does anyone know the difference between the Norton Critical edition's text and the original Maude translation? Is it invasive at all or completely minute?

>>9669834
Dubliners is spectacular because it's Joyce shitting about and all over the people of Dublin. He really, really hated them at the time he wrote the stories, and had to re wrote certain parts because it didn't show "the beauty of Dublin"

>>9676606
Metamorphoses - Golding translation
Chaucer if you'd like

Other than that you should read his plays then return to the Greeks and the Romans and then read his plays again and repeat and repeat

>>9670462
DQ, Count's fucking garbage

If we start with the greeks, where do we finish?

>>9678536
with death