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>>9650721
Elysian fields?

>>9650721
Paradise.
The Wasteland in Arthurian lit (and by derivation in Eliot's poem) is a state of removal from Paradise and of waiting for the restoration, the second coming.

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>>9650732
Hmm Elysian Fields, I really like the ring of it, but wikipedia more describes it like a passage trough rather than the place itself..

>>9650747
.. so the way you (or the poem) describe it says that "a state of removal" i.e. Nothing nearly like it?

>>9650721
horizon

>>9650766
demiurge

>>9650768
Demiurge:
Philosophy.
Platonism. the artificer of the world.
(in the Gnostic and certain other systems) a supernatural being imagined as creating or fashioning the world in subordination to the Supreme Being, and sometimes regarded as the originator of evil.
(in many states of ancient Greece) a public official or magistrate.

In what way is this like wasteland

>>9650798
i thought it was a place
there was another one that means the abyss, or chaos which the demiurge acted upon when creating the world but i can't find it

utopia

>>9650759
>wikipedia describes it like a passage trough
Every writer has its own interpretation. As a concept it's been around for a while.
(The Wikipedia article wasn't very thorough, and in my opinion wrong.)

A quick search gave me these two:
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-were-the-elysian-fields-in-greek-mythology-116736
http://www.encyclopedia.com/philosophy-and-religion/ancient-religions/ancient-religion/elysian-fields

>>9650854
In fact, wikipedia is the only place that i see it described as passage, what the hell?

Clearing (Lichtung)