Do you agree with the Lit category?

>>9650667
>Not the bible
Ask me how I know that the creator of this meme is an Atheist.

Kill yourself, don't come back and get off this board.

>>9650713
Kill yourself, don't come back and get off this board. [2]

>>9650741
Kill yourself, don't come back and get off this board. [3]

>>9650667
>Moon Landing
>Particle Physics, Satellites, Nuclear Fission, Internet, Electricity
These seem much more impactful in respective context, moon landing seems more of a pride sentiment than actually being important or practical.

>>9650667
It's bait, all of it.

Only legit one of those is 2001.

Rest is bait.

>>9650789
No, it isn't. 2001 is entry level.

Even other entry level films like Stalker are higher art than it.

kys fgt

>>9650667
Hiw are these 4chan at all? The most revered work on lit through the times is probably ulysses.
The most revered art piece is definitely not mona lisa, it'dbe something like The Rape of Persephone according to /his/.
Deus Ex and Vtmb are more common favourites than sotc.
There's nothing inherently /tv/ about 2001, I've seen more buzz about clockwork orange just talking kubrick.
Obviously /mu/s greatest musician is An aeroplane Over The Sea.
Dunno about /sci/ but I'm sure you're wrong.
Why would you preface this with "4chans" when they're just incredibly milk toast normie opinions?

>>9650794
>Calling Stalker entry level
pseud alert

I've been on this site for five years now and nothing here ever changes.

The moon landing doesn't even make the top 10 achievements of science.

>>9650825
Stalker is a well-known film. It's entry level

>>9650825
It kinda is. In the sense neon genesis evangelion is entry level, it might not be the most approachable work but it is a very widely known cult hit, at least on 4chin

lost at video games

>>9650667
>Do you agree with the Lit category?
No!
Justine by Marquis de Sade, should definitely be /lit/ choice.
It broke new ground and keeps enticing people of different ages throughout different ages.
It's simply rad!

>>9650825

You're misunderstanding what the term "entry level" means. It isn't necessarily a negative connotation, though many anon seem to mistake it for that.

Something like 'The Seventh Seal' by Bergman is "entry level", but that doesn't necessarily make it bad; only widely-known and often cited.

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>>9650667
>video games among art and science
The only thing to make it worse would be a category for best anime.

>>9650861
Last great game I played was Tetris.
Been any development since?

>>9650878
>>9650794
But what's the message here? That a widely known work is somehow disqualified? Why mention these levels at all? If the choices are supposed to represent a consensus, then they'll have to be widely known and thus are entry level.

Besides, people who are film/music/lit buffs always seem to overestimate how well known things are.

>>9650667
I've literally never seen the Mona Lisa posted on 4chan.

>>9650890
Tetris has not been topped but Quake 3 does come close.

>>9650931
>I've literally never seen the Mona Lisa posted on 4chan.
This sentence confuses me.

First it got me wondering about the difference between:
* I've never seen the Mona Lisa posted on 4chan.
* I've literally never seen the Mona Lisa posted on 4chan.
* I've figuratively never seen the Mona Lisa posted on 4chan.

Then maybe the original intention was something like
* I've never seen the literally Mona Lisa posted on 4chan.
* I've never seen the Mona Lisa literally posted on 4chan.

In the end I just gave up and realized I must lurk all the image threads to see what those guys do with Mona LIsa.

>>9650931
I don't think I've seen it either. Bouguereau seems to be the one I see most often in the art threads.

>>9650667
If you're going for the most iconic milestones, for those works that are democratically recognized as hits, that's a good list for sure.
I wonder how can anyone believe himself to be enthusastic enough about dunno, call it "culture" or "art", to make some list of the supposed best historic achievements in the field, in which only absolutely poppy and superfluous icons for what "culture" is to your average joe are mentioned.

>>9650952
Someone, not me, comes and says the words: "I am interested in the idiom in painting." You get the picture: the speaker is impassive, he remained motionless for the duration of his sentence, careful to refrain from any gesture. At the point where you were perhaps expecting it, near the head and around certain words, for example "in painting," he did not imitate the double horns of quotation marks, he did
not depict a form of writing with his fingers in the air. He merely comes and announces to you: "I am interested in the idiom in painting."
As he comes and has just come [vient de venir], the frame is missing, the edges of any context open out wide. You are not completely in the dark, but what does he mean exactly?
Does he mean that he is interested in the idiom "in painting," in the idiom itself, for its own sake, "in painting" (an expression that is in itself strongly idiomatic; but what is an
idiom?)?
That he is interested in the idiomatic expression itself, in the words "in painting"? Interested in words in painting or in the
words "in painting"? Or in the words " 'in painting' "?
That he is interested in the idiom in painting, i.e., in what pertains to the idiom, the idiomatic trait or style (that which is singular, proper, inimitable) in the domain of painting, or else another possible translation-in the singularity or the irreducible specificity of pictorial art, of that "language" which painting is supposed to be, etc.?
Which makes, if you count them well, at least four hypotheses; but each one divides again, is grafted and contaminated by all the others, and you would never be finished translating them.
Nor will I.

>Ode to Joy (not even the complete symphony)
>Mona Lisa
>trying at all to find the single greatest work of art of all time
This is how you know that a pseud made the image.

>>9650667
pleb

>>9650667
kubrick may have been a genius behind a camera, but his films are still boring. they lacked character and story

i agree with don quixote though

>moon landing
>even in the top 10 scientific achievements

>>9650667
>literature
i dunno wgaf
>film
moon landing
>art
the ecstasy of st teresa by bernini
>vg
I dunno wgaf
music
>toccata and fugue in d minor
science
>quantum physics

>>9650667

>Literature

Gravity's Rainbow

>Film

Akira

>Art

The Thinker

>Video Games

Mass Effect

>Music

Beethoven's 9th

>Science

idk

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>>9650667
Lit
>Finnegans Wake
Film
>The Holy Mountain
Art
>fuck you, not the Mona Lisa, that's embarrassing desu
>my fave rn is pic related
Vidya
>Dark Souls 2, Scholar of the First Sin
Music
>Turangalila Symphony - Messiaen
Science
>who cares

>>9651512

>Dark Souls

oh fuck off

>>9650861
You haven't played it, so why do you think that?

>>9651477
>Pinecone and Ass Effect
Yikes.

Literature - The Great Gatsby

Film - No Country for Old Men

Art - Nighthawks

Video Game - Mother 3

Album - The Epic or DSOTM

Scientific Achievement - The World Wide Web

>pseuds picking the most generic classical music
This is hysterical.

>>9651163

this

>>9651568
>>9651163
t. Salty Eurocucks

the very act this has "video games" in it devalues the whole venture

>>9651512

>Holy Mountain

MAHMAN.gify

Literature: The Rainbow (DH Lawrence)

Film: The Master (PT Anderson)

Art: cave paintings at Lascaux (anonymous)

Vidya: N/A (I am fond of dating sims)

Music: the Pipes of Pan at Jojouka

Science: Cloning

>>9651576
>9651576
it didn't even happen irl. they filmed it in a studio in nevada

>Literature
The Great Gatsby. Scott's masterful prose and vivid characters remain untouched to this day.
>Film
Raiders of the Lost Ark, the ultimate adventure film.
>Art
Leutze's Washington crossing the Delaware.
>Video Game
Baldur's Gate II. This game easily has over 150 hours of exploration, combat, and lore. Complete masterpiece in all areas.
>Music
Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue, preferably performed by the New York Philharmonic.
>Science
Walking on the motherfucking moon.

God damn am I proud to be an American.

>>9650667
This isn't "4chan's picks" this is Google's picks. Whoever made this needs to be shot.

>>9650667
The New Testament
American Graffiti
Homes for America
New Vegas
Besame Mucho
Printing press

>>9651512
Dark Souls 1, maybe, but 2? TWO!?

>>9651520

If it was the first one it would be an OK choice

>>9651616
I know this is bait but I'm triggered a bit anyway

>>9651694
>>9651696

so true

>>9651560
>Literature - The Great Gatsby
WTF???

>Moby Dick
>Yojimbo
>too subjective to bother discussing
>Super Metroid
>The Beatles - Revolver
>the wheel lol

>>9650667
I can see the neckbeard from here.

>>9651735

>Super Metroid

The true patrician game

>>9651735

>>The Beatles - Revolver

bahahahhaahahahah

meme rankings baka

>>9651735

>the wheel
>not the glorious fire

get the fuck out of here you disgusting pleb

>Paradife Lost
>Last Year at Marienbad
>Garden of Earthly Delights
>Ocarina of Time
>Polyphonischer Tango - Schnittke
>Christianity

Beethoven's ninth is so fucking overrated, he couldn't write a decent choral part to save his life.

Book: paradise lost
Movie: metropolis
Painting:Study after Velázquez's Portrait of Pope Innocent X
Video Game: Beyond good and evil
Music: anything from Dvorak
Science: the Web

>>9651836
I always thought the 7th symphony was the best

>>9651890
The piano sonatas are his true masterpieces anyway.

>>9651836
>he couldn't write a decent choral part to save his life.
So that's why he's dead?

SotC is not the "greatest" videogame. It's just a stellar example of vidya as an interactive art form. I'd still argue that Ocarina of Time is the greatest videogame by its own merit.

I'd also love to hear the argument that the Mona Lisa is the greatest work of art.

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literature
>Paradise Lost
film
>In Vanda's Room
art
>Garden of Earthly Delights

>>videogames
music
>The Carter III
science
>Gutenbergs Press

>>9650789

Barry Lyndon is better

>>9651945
>gutenberg's press
Why
The press didn't invent or spread the idea of written works, and without growing urbanization and humanitarian ideals there would have been no spread of prerequisite literacy to make use of printed materials.

>>9651937

>stellar example of vidya as interactive art form

It's literally just a minimalist adventure game. It's only special merit is that there's something about it that really brings out the pseud in people

>>9651961
Yeah there's a lot of pseuds who love it because MUH ANIMALS DINDU NUFFIN
But the actual merit of the game is in the tactile control scheme, and the framing of all the players' interactions with the Colossi, Agro, and the World, and it exists in every element of the game - the music, story, artstyle, etc.
It's a concept Team Ico were very fond of, and originally explored with less success in Ico and some devs would later touch on in Journey.

Had SotC been as large as originally planned it probably would eclipse OoT in my opinion.

>>9651961

It's not "minimalistic" though... it's just that it focus on the core "mechanics" of build-up and release in a very stripped down but at the same time epic way.

>>9651955
>didn't [...] spread the idea of written works

Nigga what are you smoking that's exactly what it did

>>9651955
Chicken and the egg

>>9651986

>tactile control scheme

The control scheme is clunky. The character often doesn't immediately respond to inputs because he's busy performing some "realistic" animation that the game things you wanted from a few moments ago.

>muh horse won't run into trees wow such merit

Also the idea that OoT is the greatest game of all time is pure nostalgia.

>>9651986
>Had SotC been as large as originally planned

How was it gonna be larger? Just more Colossi?

>>9651993
The IDEA of written works
Writing already existed everywhere that Gutenberg's press was employed.
It didn't invent or further any scientific goal, it just filled in a market demand.

Not saying the press wasn't historically important, just that it's not THE scientific breakthrough.

>>9651989

>it's not minimalistic it's just very stripped down

autism.

>>9652003
Planned 24 Colossi

>>9652004

Do you legit think that it didn't spread the idea of writing to more people, thus contributing to the exact things you said it was useless because?

>growing urbanization and humanitarian ideals

I mean cmon man, just because the "idea" of writing was already known to some people, it doesn't mean that its spread wasn't incredibly (if not more) important to the collective consciousness of the human race?

>>9652006

>misrepresenting the post

retardation.

>>9652030
>I mean cmon man, just because the "idea" of writing was already known to some people
>some people
Lmao
The press only took off because of growing literacy rates which were tied to existing urban growth and humanitarian educational ideas. People were already reading and writing in expanding numbers, largely thanks to monks copying religious and philosophical texts for hundreds of years.

The press did not roll out of a workshop and then BAM literacy

>>9652058

Do you think that it wasn't something that developed together? It's pretty obvious to me that the growing literacy influenced the print, which influenced the literacy, and so on.

>>9652087
>literacy influenced the press
Do you think knowing how to read = knowing how to build a machine?

>>9652100

Erm, if the machine is about printing things to read, then yeah, of course I think?

>>9652106

I think it influenced its creation, not that it directly helped in its creationg (although I'd argue that there's a huge chance it objectively did)

>>9650667
>2001
>Video games
>Beethoven

If you think 2001 is anything but trash either stop listening to people online or kill yourself

>>9652179

>2001
>trash

it might not be the be-all, end-all of cinema like some people claim, but calling it trash just makes you look like a contrarian autist

>>9652189
Because people have cemented the "oh it's a masterpiece" when it's really just a meme.
Solaris for the /tv/ crowd.

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>>9650667
>Mona Lisa

>>9650794
They're almost exactly identical you autistic bastard, and not entry level, fuck you triggered me.

>>9652737
2001 is definately entry level. It gets parodied in the Simpsons for Christ sake

>>9652803
Doesn't mean it's tucking entry level, what the fuck does that even mean?
I have yet to see a film than can top solaris or stalker, or any film by tarkovsky.

"entry level" literally what? If tarkovsky is entry level what's better?
Not to mention film is subjective.

>>9652832
Not him
Tarkovski is not entry level at all
But 2001 is on the same level as Kill Bill or Trainspotting

>>9651735
Metroid was never good.

>>9651927
>>9651890
Reminder he invented jazz not niggers

Lit - Odyssey

Film - Seven Samurai

Art - Vitruvian Man

Video Game - Earthbound

Music - Air on G String

Science - Quantum physics

Prove me wrong.

>>9651588
Keep telling yourself that Collins now go prep your mothers bull you subcrap

>>9652910
Could you pick a more pleb Bach piece?

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>>9652910
Other than Earthbound I'm actually fine with this list.

>>9650704
Are you delusional? Without the context of it being gods word it is a boring piece of shit.

>>9652927
It's a musical paragon.

>>9652956
Because it as catchy and pop sounding as classical gets, that's why it's famous. His Mass in B minor, Passions, cello suites or art of fugue are much more representative of Bach's perfection of musical form.

>>9650667
Looks like the image is focused on the arts so Metamorphoses by Ovid or Faust by Goethe.

Also, why is Science a category? Makes no sense.

>>9650704
fpbp. The King James Bible is the greatest work of literature of all time, English or not. Not to mention the fact that so many great works of literature worldwide are translations of The Bible (Luther's Bible in German. The Synodal Bible in Russian. The Van Dyck Bible in Arabic) or works based on Biblical stories and teachings (The Divine Comedy, Paradise Lost, Pilgrim's Progress, Mere Christianity, The Quran, etc) It's ridiculous to not say that The Bible is the pinnacle of literature.

>>9652946
> not knowing that practically every written work sprung from the bible

>>9652654

It's still pretty well shot and directed, it's just that it's a very easy "experimental" movie to get into and still feel deep.

>ctrl+f
>No Chrono Trigger

you guys disgust me.

>>9653104
Video games are for children.

>>9653136

it's OK, I played them when I was one.

At least I can say I was patrician since 6 years old you fuckers

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>>9653059
accept that sign can become the signified as culture evolves and echoes of bible refer just to the echoes themselves -- and greek thought founded the west btw check mate deists

>>9653178
>accept that sign can become the signified as culture evolves and echoes of bible refer just to the echoes themselves
Please speak English next time you try to post

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>>9653182
i'll try to keep that in mind

>>9653095
How does that even matter? Just because it inspired great literature doesnt make it great literature.

>>9650667
kill urself

>>9650704
How do you know, anon?

>>9653095

So? Doesn't make the actual book any better you fucking faggot

Everyone here has shit film taste

>infinite jest
>le fabuleux destin d'amélie poulain
>none
>skyrim
>in the airplane over the sea
>computers

>>9653405
i don't

>>9652910
Fucking normie classical era faggots, Debussy - Arabesque No. 1 is actaully the pinacle of music.

>shadow of the colossus

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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>>9650667
>4Chan

>>9651520
>>9651694
>>9651696
>>9651721
desu I never play video games. a /v/ friend told me scholar of the sin was the patrician's choice.
I liked WoW when I was in gradeschool and Skyrim when I was in middle school, that's about it

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>>9650667
This is the most reddit thing I've seen here in a while

>>9653996
Based

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>>9653996
>There Will Be Blood

DS is great, but it being the greatest work of the medium is just ridiculous.

>>9653886
>Skyrim when I was in middle school
are you old enough to post here?

If youre going with big-name composers, go with Dvorak's New World Symphony.

>>9650667
it just has to be the bible. and KJV. literally every single literary masterpiece I could think of to feel that spot suffered great influence of the bible, directly or indirectly, or reference it or has the bible as main theme. anna karenina, the divine comedy, paradise lost, borthers karamazov, faust

but if not the bible, ulysses for sure

>>9652878
don't fucking delude yourself

normies can easily watch Kill Bill or Trainspotting, but I've never seen a single one of them making it past the introductory ape sequence in 2001

Book: Ulysses
Movie: Citizen Kane
Painting: Black Square
VG: LSD Dream Emulator
Music: Gesang der Jünglinge
Science: Internet

>>9654443
DS is definitely not perfect but I've very seldom seen a game achieve that level of coherency between its themes, mechanics and aesthetics

then Bloodborne took it even further

Science would be either electricity or the bike. What metric are using for this category?

>>9654553
NUKE, not bike. Pardon me.

>>9650834
Many great works are well known, that doesn't make them entry level.

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>>9653886
>Skyrim when I was in middle school
H-how fucking old am I?

>>9650667
The science part is true only if the implication is the psychological effect and political manipulation of the fabrication.
Can't wait for USA to implode.

>>9654552
Red Dead redemption for me, never played SoC.

>>9654545
Can you give some insight on you music choice?

>>9654525
An issue I have w/ your reasoning, it is wholly unfair to modern works. Too much emphasis on historicity.

>>9654568
>Too much emphasis on historicity.
What can you mean by that?

>>9654568
Give me a modern day framework not killed off by this.
https://youtu.be/0Z760XNy4VM
They are all tied to economic models, utopianism, equality, competition...

Kill yourself, don't come back and get off this board.

>>9654664
Here we have a spook informing us "subtly" that dead men habit this board.

Vidya
>Metal Gear Solid 3
Art
>The Renaissance in it's entirety

The rest I don't know enough about.


>>9653996
Language predates science

>>9654543
All three are trash

>>9650667

Fuck off this is so shit.

>>9650667
>poor man's rabelais
>overrated, pretentious americunt trash
>generic normie, unoffensive garbage
>not on PC - dont care
>may agree on Symphony 9 in general, ode is trash
>americunt jew propaganda lie
World is not only america you dumb worthless americunt faggot, kill yourself

>>9653886
Kek

>>9650667
It seems to be for overrated classics, so no, I would not.

I would put War and Peace there instead.

>>9650789
Don Quixote remains the best 'modern novel' ever written. Just ask Harold Bloom.

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>>9653886
>a /v/ friend told me scholar of the sin was the patrician's choice.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Literature
>The Sound and the Fury
Film
>Apocalypse Now
Art
>The Temptation of St Anthony- Domenico Morellik
Video Game
>Chibi-Robo
Music
>The Thieving Magpie
Science
>Electricity

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>>9654983
>The Temptation of St Anthony- Domenico Morellik

I feel like this is how most /litizens/ would act in the same situation.

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You plebs need to up your sculpture game.

Antoine Le Moiturier - tomb of Phillipe Pot

>>9650789
Literature: Anna Karenina
Film: The Godfather Trilogy or Taxi Driver
TV: The Sopranos
Art: Van Gogh
Vidya: Skyrim
Music: ???
Science: Fuck knows.

>>9654926
Baded Eddiebro, ds2 was dogshit

>>9655022
>Film: The Godfather Trilogy or Taxi Drivee
>Vidya: Skyrim
Leave and never come back.

>>9655022
TV is not an artistic medium
And neither are videogames for that matter

Van Gogh is trash and so are both your film choices

>>9652832
Not him but you seem to misunderstand the term "entry level", it says nothing about the artistic qualities of a work. Insofar Stalker can be cosidered entry level since it is still very much a traditional movie ( Characters, Narration, etc. are all present) e.g. approachable. As an example of something of a "higher level" consider a movie by Brakhage or Snow which reject most of the traditional values we come to expect of movies and by consequence measure it.
tl;dr entry level says nothing about quality but rather how approachable and/or well known something is

>>9652946
The Holy Bible (KJV) is a literary masterpiece DESPITE God's word.

ok guys, unironically the best list coming up

>literature: Hamlet or the bible
>film: Satantango
>art: Sistine Chapel roof
>Vidya: Shadow of the Colossus or Deus Ex
>music: Ives psalms
>science: calculus

>>9651163
That's not even a scientific achievement.

>>9655300
>Ives
look, another americunt

>>9650667
No love for any of the Metal Gears?

>>9655300

>unironically the best list coming up

>>film: Satantango

lol.

stop posting, son.

>>9653059
>The King James Bible is the greatest work of literature of all time

I would almost agree with you but the King James version is just protestant butchering of scripture. You need something more unabridged.

>>9655300
Probably the best one yet

>>9650667
This is so fucking pretentious. Shadow of the colossus, moon landing, monalisa, classical music, long artsy movie that nobody has watched except for a few people who could sit through it.
>>9650751
Kill yourself, don't come back and get off this board. [4]

Here's an actual real version
>Literature
The Bible
>Film
Playtime
>Art
Hard to pick one painting, better to pick one artist's works. I'd say Rembrandt or maybe Bruegel the Elder
>Video Games
Deus Ex
>Music
Bach (Again, better to pick one artist's works)

>>9655395
What is there to say negatively about Satantango? It's a masterpiece

>Literature
In Search of Lost Time
>Film
The Double Life of Veronique
>Art
Portinari Triptych
>Video Games
Planescape Torment
>Music
Matthäus Passion

>>9650667
>4chan's
looks more like Reddit's if you ask me

>>9650667
>art

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>>9651477
>literature
Faust
>film
Unironically Mad Max
>visual art
Picasso's early cubist work
>vidiya
Quake III or Mirror's Edge
>music
Early 20th centruy Schoenberg
>science
Particle accelerators

>>9650986
I agree with the sentiment, but Ode to Joy is Beehoven's most known work for a reason. I have yet to see a piece of music evoke that certain emotion better.
>>9651198
>>9651477
>>9651955
>>9651616
bait
>>9651512
I generally dislike landscape paintings, but that one's nice. I don't see why it's GOAT though, care to educate me?
>>9651560
>the epic
>Great Gatsby
Good bait
>>9651562
Not that my choice is much better, but this desu
>>9651582
And movies aren't art, right?
>>9651587
Good answers
>>9651668
Not bad answers
>>9651694
Kill yourself
>>9651735
>visual arts are too subjective
>lists a pop-rock album as greatest musical achievement
good bait
>>9651814
>>9651937
Explain how Zelda is good?
>>9651836
Not really, most other classical is underrated.
>>9651868
Had to look up the painting. Good date desu.
>>9651945
>he doesn't play vidiya
pleb
>>9651961
good bait
>>9652910
>Bach
>greatest anything
nick yourself
>>9654545
Good taste
>>9654983
Good taste
>>9655022
>>>van gogh
>>>>>skyrim
>>>>>>>>>>no music
good bait
>>9655300
Jesus christ, really good bait
>>9655455
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bach
>>9655624
>best vidiya
>glorified "choose your own adventure book"

>>9655747
>hating on bach

>>9655756
Tonality was a mistake

>>9655761
why?

>>9651868
This one could be a winner. PL is a solid choice as is Study, those both are contender in mine.

>>9655779
Best he's a special snowflake hipster, that's why.

>>9655747
I've read Faust Part I and while I enjoyed it, I really can't understand why it's so praised. What is the reason? Why?

>>9654654
i don't understand your point

>>9655779
Aha! You were tricked by my ruse! That statement was only in jest!

Although I do think that pre 20th century music was greatly held back by the fact that timbre could not be accurately written down. This created a millenia of relatively (!!!) boring art music. Schoenberg heralded atonality which kind-of helped to create the other modernist GOAT acts, like Russolo or Cage's prepared piano and randomly generated pieces.
>>9655798
Finish part 2. It's the culmination of so many artistic movements and ultimately a work that marries the seemingly incompatible ideas of divine predestination and human potential. It deeply affected me when I was a younger lad, so I'm more than slightly biased.

>>9655810
Why do so many people say part II isn't as important as part I?

>>9655810
Because I don't think my point was concise enoug, I think he helped to break a mould that was in dire need of breaking.

>>9655814
The same reason Sam Harris has a patreon.

Also literally who the fuck has ever said that.

>>9655821
I saw it on /lit/ a lot.
Also, are you religious?

>>9655823
I wasn't when I read it the first go round, but currently am attempting to cultivate courage for the leap of faith.

I think the themes of legacy and yearning to be above human are still worthwhile even if you're a diehard atheist.

>>9655747
Pretty embarrassing desu

>>9656084
Which part?

>>9656114
Everything, the attention-whoring is the worst of it.

>>9650667
>Shadow of the Colossus
>game
Pick one.

>>9651836
Schiller wrote it :>

>>9650667
Change title from 4chan's to Reddit's and I 100% agree

>>9655810
Kys

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>>9650667
>putting man on the moon
>greatest scientific work
Embarrassing

>>9650667
Its the only one I agree with. The moon landing didn't even fucking happen lol. Even so the discovery of electricity by Volta is far and away the greatest scientific event.

>art
All of those are art you imbecile.

>>9650667
>Ode to Joy
>not the whole 9th
What the fuck?

>Mona Lisa
The School of Athens desu

>moon landing
This one doesn't even make sense. I'd go with particle accelerators.

For music, Rhapsody in Blue.

>>9650825
This, it's actually exit level

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Literature: tied between The Tempest and The Duino Elegies
Film: Zerkalo
Art: The Beethoven Frieze
Videogames: tied between Pathologic and The Void
Music: Something by Mahler probably
Science: who cares lol

Wagner's Tristan und Isolde is the greater piece of art ever created. Prove me wrong.

It's all horrible. Don Quixote is fantastic but lacks a certain 'gravity'. It's a wonderful piece of genre literature, but I'm not fond of it beyond its importance in the genre.
2001 is a neat movie but it's nothing revolutionary. The actual best film is an animated television series from 2005 that has fallen out of most people's memories (it actually is a revolutionary moment which absolutely cannot be underrepresented -- what it does in its genres are monumental and without peer. In addition to that, it's absolutely captivating and powerful -- the sort of piece that isn't just formally interesting or intelligent, but is actually remarkable as a whole work.) As you can tell, I'm obsessed and obviously impartial.
The Mona Lisa is not a fantastic or especially important painting. At best it represents the absolute and arrogant dullness of the 'Renaissance'. I'm somewhat familiar with the literature on it, but that isn't convincing. Depth of realism isn't good enough.
Shadow of the Colossus is an actual Reddit game. Video games function at too many levels to say anything about quality. If their entertainment value is their core value, for example, then the most entertaining game would be the best. But is the most entertaining the most-played, or highest-grossing?
Ode to Joy is a meme.
Science is actually irrelevant here and the moon landing wasn't science. Holy shit, this entire image makes me wish nipmoot would ban every last /b/browser. I can smell it.

>>9657782
>Don Quixote
>genre literature

You don't even deserve to die

>>9657698
The only post that doesn't dismiss video games. I'm surprised that you're the first to mention that gem, considering we have threads about Pathologic all the time.

>>9657790
Don Quixote is genre literature you absolute pseud. Do you even know what genre literature is? Hint: most literature is genre literature, but literature that focuses on its own genre particularly is especially genre literature. It's genre literature in the same way that Sir Gawain is genre literature.

>>9657800
Really? Never seen one on /lit/ before

I can understand why the video game category has been neglected, though. Pathologic/The Void are tge only games that have elevated themselves to true art. What is considered in the mainstream to be "artistic games' (Dark Souls, Metal Gear, Shadow of the Colossus, The Last of Us etc.) falls many miles short.

>>9650794
>Even other entry level films like Stalker are higher art than it.

Right.

>>9657827
What about Nier: Automata?

>>9652006
I'm starting to wonder if you understand what minimalism means. Or how to read.

>>9657848
Personally enjoyed it very much, and it's certainly better than most, but I dont think it quite made it.

>>9657827
Meant to say "good post", but I hundred percent agree with you. The medium has so much potential, yet next to nothing substantial gets made with it. The bar is so low at this point, that people do indeed see what you mentioned (plus 'those' cringy cyberpunk and White Wolf RPGs that have been mentioned in this thread) as an art comparable to anything with even minute substance. It's very saddening.

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>>9650667
fixed

>>9655810
Russolo was not a "GOAT" composer
and Webern did more than Schoenberg to invigorate the timbral formalization developed by post-war composers (namely those belonging to the Darmstadt School, and subsequently the New York School)

>>9653996
Name of artist?

>Literature: In Search of Lost Time
>Film: The Color of Pomegranates
>Art: Cezanne
>Videogames: Riven
>Music: Bach's Die Kunst Der Fuge, or one of Feldman's later works

Literature: Harry Potter
Proof: Writer is a billionaire. What an elite clique of quasi-intellectual thinks doesn't matter if mankind has another opinion.

Literature The Brothers Karamazov
Firm Blade runner
Art Azumanga Daioh
Video games morrowind
Music anything from Radiohead
Science Internet

>>9650667
Absolutely wrong. Here's the correct list

>lit
Infinite jest
>film
The dark knight rises
>art
Pepe frog
>video games
Fallout new vegas
>music
In the aeroplane over the sea
>science
Bjarne Stroustrup making c++

>>9655022
>Vidya: Skyrim
fucking disgusting. the entire tes series is extremely mediocre, and yet you pick the worst of the bunch.

The problem with vidya in terms of art is that no one can make up their minds as to how vidya can be art, which then doubles back into the question as to what defines art
Is its qualities as a game what make it art? Is its use as a story medium, and if so, through its writing or through use of its mechanics?
SotC is the pseud choice, because while its story and ability to provide profound feeling are good, its bogged down by its controls
imo a game like Journey would be a better choice

Then again, this is all just a meme image anyway

>>9658052
Ivan Kramskoi
painting is Christ in the Desert (1872)