Mishima Thread

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>>9619108

This is personally one of my favorite photos, because he looks happy.
I personally really liked Runaway Horses. I think it embodies a certain moment of adolescence where you are somehow able to distinguish good and evil with a clarity you'll never have afterwards, without compromises.
Great writer and great man.

>>9619108
Am I wrong to not like Mishima? I read Sailor Who Lost Grace and thought it was pretty good, but then I read Temple of the Golden Pavilion and hated it. I don't like edginess, I like books that come from a nice moral place (and I also don't mind homoeroticism :^) ), so what books by Mishima should I try?

>>9619165

Temple of the Golden Pavillion is one of his bests, in my opinion, I'm sorry you hated it.
What do you mean with books coming from a 'nice moral place'?

Is Confessions of a Mask a good first book to start with him?

>>9619193

Yes. My way of going with the novels would be:

Confessions of a Mask
Golden Pavillion

- whatever you feel like + Sun and Steel

- Sea of Fertility

>>9619196

(sorry i put in Sun and Steel which is not a novel)

>>9619174
The opposite of edginess obviously.

>>9619174
Basically what >>9619223 said. Books about hope and the goodness of people. Does Mishima have any books like that? It doesn't necessarily have to be a fluffy happy-ending book, but just something that isn't filled with awful pathological characters, such as Temple was.

>>9619165
>Mishima
>a nice moral place
As much as I love him, the guy was fucked up even by Japanese standards. What he does really good is combining a beautiful style that survives even translation to european languages, and a very clear, even somewhat rigid, narration with occasional "analytical" explanations concerning characters. I've never met a writing style like this before.

>>9619226
Sound of Waves. Don't know if that got a decent translation though.

>>9619234
That's what I thought lol. I doubt someone who disembowelled themselves for an ideal has much good to say about the world.

>>9619243
I'll check out that, ty

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Is this list any good?

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Read Death in Midsummer recently. I think moralfag anon might like it. It has quite tender portrayals of people - particularly women.

From that collection, Patriotism stands out the most. The short film is also amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO-w-cn-pJM

>>9619157
:3

>>9621069
Living the life

He said that life wasn't worth living unless you were beautiful or something like that. It sounds vain, but he's completely right. Life is objectively less pleasant if you aren't beautiful.

>>9621069
Lol I know a guy who looks exactly like the guy to the left of him

>>9621205
Is that why he killed himself?

is he a confirmed fag? always thought it was some bodybuilding, guys being guys thing

>>9621069
how many of them do you think he fucked

Has anybody seen Patriotism or Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters? Are they worth checking out?

>>9622458
i'm partial to life in four chapters partly because i was introduced to mishima entirely through phillip glass's string quarters: the finale grew to be one of my favorite pieces and i eventually became curious as to its origins and lo i guess

plus coppola is always so good; four chapters is odd, a sort of biopic+portrayals of various scenes from his novels, but it's enjoyable and definitely work checking out

>>9621069
Lewd.
>>9622165
Probably none. But he would have sensually massaged baby oil over their nude bodies after and maybe even engage in some ancient greek style wrestling.

>>9621504
He wanted to have body worthy of death

>>9623000
>>9621069
Wow, he really knew how to enjoy the little pleasures of life, didn't he?
His ideal of masculinity has always captivated my fantasies when I was reading his books.

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>>9619157
How do you feel about Spring Snow? I'm slightly over 100 pages in, and while I enjoy the prose I find the characters and their concerns to be extremely uninteresting - I keep turning pages but I don't actually enjoy the content.

>>9624407
I find Spring Snow more satisfying than RH, because it shows a defter, more graceful hand. It also introduces the themes that RH builds on, so it's better to read first. Also, unlike the rest of the tetrology, it doesn't have any excess flab.

WHY THE FUCK CAN'T YOU BUY HIS BOOKS ANYWHERE

How long did you guys take with the tetralogy? Did you read everything else he wrote beforehand? What about the plays?

>>9624407

I think it's because the characters are meant to develop throughout the tetralogy. Honda, in particular, I couldn't find very interesting in Spring Snow, but he then becomes deeper and deeper as the tetralogy goes on.

>>9624748
he was an ebul fascist

I've read Spring Snow, The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea and The Temple of the Golden Pavilion. Is Acts of Worship a good place to go for him next?

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>>9624407

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why does nobody talk about Forbidden Colors? I picked up a secondhand copy of it a few days ago but I haven't cracked it open yet.

>>9624407
As other anons have said, press onward with Spring Snow. It's definitely one of my favorite novels, and Mishima at his finest. There's no artifice to it, no gimmicks, no tricks. It's just a graceful and beautifully told story that manages to be profound. I think that's the kind of thing all literature should aspire to be.