JP's Self-Authoring

>>9607622
Please go back to /pol/

>>9607639
unironically sincere question.

don't mean to step on anyone's toes like

>>9607651
Please go back to /pol/

>>9607622
He's a pseud.

He thinks Orwell is a more significant figure than Hemingway. What a dipshit

>>9607692
Its not even close.

Please go back to /pol/

>>9607702
>>9607655
Back to /leftypol/, cunts :)

someone please unplug the broken 'tard record.

regardless of his take on Hemingway and Orwell, has anyone anything relevant to say on his writing programme?

Perhaps I'd have gotten less crap on /adv/, unlikely as that may seem.

>>9607622
>over on /pol/
You're going to have to be more subtle than that.

>>9607873
this is about his books and writing programme , in case you didn't read past the first clause, not his politics.

>>9607876
That's more like it.

I don't care for this guy but it's funny how people get immediately triggered as soon as they see him mentioned

>>9607622
I've not heard of this before. Could explain his program?

>>9607881
hardly. you didn't read the message did ya, anon, or I wouldn't have to repeat myself as much as the cretins on here. and Peterson's the hack? -
good one.

>>9607899
that was the reason for my initial query, anon.

>>9607900
You mentioned J.P and /pol/. I thought for sure you were false flagging or baiting. Nvm. You are just new.

>>9607622
It sounds like it's designed more as a kind of writing therapy than anything /lit/ related.

>>9607921
but isn't all (or most) writing a form of exorcism?

Not necessarily. Though even when it is there has to be more to it than that for it to qualify as literature.

>>9607925
Not when you're trying to summon something.

>>9607969
Finnegans Fucking Wake. I see.

NOT /LIT/

>>9607978
Only thing that summoned is a bunch of pretentious hipsters LOL

>>9607692

Thanks for providing an argument in his favour, brainelt

>>9607982

How retarded are you?

So far I've only completed the "faults" portion of the present authoring module. The program is pretty straightforward; it basically just provides an orderly framework for writing about yourself.

Not /lit/ related.

>>9608178
any thoughts you'd care to share?

>>9608181
piss off, gimp. don't you have some vidya to exercise your trigger finger?

>>9608184
Stop bumping your thread and lurk more

I don't know since I haven't read it. But if I wanted to get advice on produtivity I would definitely go to someone that has knowledge of how the human brain works.

Pretty sure you can find a pastebin with all the self authoring stuff in it if you want to try it before buying.

>>9608310
yeah no doubt. the thing is, spending a few bucks on it might just force me to actually go and do it, know what I mean?

>>9608265
Ah so a psychologist that has hardon for neurology is the wrong choice right

>>9608372
i think he means that Peterson is the /right/ choice, or maybe you missed that part.

>>9607639
>>9607655
mods ban this

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>>9607622
Look up cognitive behavioral therapy if you want to improve yourself and stop procrastinating, but for the love of God, please sage all JP threads. He's cancer on academia and all social platforms that discuss him.

>>9608530
kys

>>9608310
Post it if you have it, please

>>9608310
>>9608613
I'd be interested in seeing this too.

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>>9608181
>>9608537
just kys senpaitachi.

If you're interested in the self-authoring program :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9u5t3C0AI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoGdMpdZXzs

>>9608613
>>9608613
Google it. First few results.

>>9608310
Do you feel big, taking money out of a hard working man's pocket? Do you feel powerful, like your Marxist masters?

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>>9608727
CBT is the gold standard in psychology circles. Peterson is a pseud who doesn't understand the things he criticizes and is capitalizing on conservative angst.

>just kys senpaitachi
Seriously though, if anybody is having suicidal thoughts, depression, or trouble focusing, cognitive behavioral therapy is the most effective way to improve your condition without taking medication.

>>9607622
What exactly is this man's accomplishments in the field of psychology? Does anyone that's not a virgin trump supporter take him seriously?

>>9607622
If i see one more goddamn i'm hiring a hitman to take him and patreon out

>>9608004
I'm sorry you're too stupid for fucking Hemingway

>>9608938
How is he a pseud?

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>>9609456
He's rarely if ever cited in academic papers. Nobody really takes his "self-authoring" seriously. He's a mediocre tenured professor who realized he could capitalize on "anti-PC" culture and complain about things outside of his field of expertise, and people would eat it up.

>>9610630
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=wL1F22UAAAAJ&hl=en

>8230 citations
>rarely if ever cited in academic papers.

>>9610616
He complains about Derrida all the time without even having read him

>>9610630
>>9610640
People are always extremely fucking desperate to delegitimize those they disagree with politically. It's really sad

>>9610616

He relies heavily on Lacan and Freud even though they don't provide reproducibly significant results in tests. Those who do focus on psychoanalysis academically mostly ignore him too.

The biggest tell is that he has made his career out of talking about things outside of his expertise. He complains about postmodernism all the time but can't articulate what it is.

He helped me a lot in the past three months and this is only the beginning of my journey to change

His ideas are not new and have been talked about since the 80s from the books i've read and I'm sure they go back even further in some writing's...

Self authoring works, there is a lot to what he talks about and I feel like I do have guidance again and a direction in life

With that said, I do feel I have to be honesst

This week has been hell and nothing he talks about is helping me deal with this, now it takes time I understand and it is just life one day you're good and another you feel like shit. Time to hit the grindstone again and sharpen myself, each day. The issue is I'll have a battle I'm fighting every day for about a month now. I feel he is helpful but it takes a lot of work from you to follow what he advises and find your own path in life

>>9610657
Did you seriously just mix Jung up with Lacan? Lmao shows how much you know.

>>9610657
He didn't start talking about postmodernism until a few months ago, you dolt. His career was already made.

>>9610630
and he's making cash money doing it. dudes not wrong either. he taught at harvard for several years, there's not a single person on this board as accomplished as JP.

He's also a climate change denier

>>9610689
He's also a contrarian.

>>9610630
You know, apart from being hilariously wrong, It's kinda depressing that your on /lit/ and don't know how rare receiving citations in academia are.

>>9610689
No?

>>9610701
Not really. Most people who listen to him tend to agree with what he has to say.

>>9610710
He says somewhere in this video that he thinks there's evidence it might be wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GSUG_B-new

>>9610689
Where'd you get that idea from? The human race originated in the savannah of Poland.

>>9610645
Everybody complains about Derrida, he's nearly universally despised in academia.

>>9610715
He hardly denies it. He says the oceans are more important.

>>9610715
Are you familiar with the phrase, "The pause"?

>>9608537
The only cancer here is you. Stop repeating the same shit over and over.

>>9610645
How do you know he hasn't read him?

>>9610689
True or false, this is totally irrelevant. Please STFU and stop being a tranny.

>>9610781
He never refers to primary sources and specifically said he prefers not to read them, so I doubt he's read a complete work by him.

>>9610783
Irrelevant to what? It wrecks his credibility in general. You're just obsessed with the trans issue for no reason

>>9610788
>rrelevant to what? It wrecks his credibility in general.
It's irrelevant to his self authoring program. How does is wreck the credibility of the studies performed on the self-authoring program?

Ideas should be judged on the ideas themselves and the evidence supporting them, not on the perceived "credibility" of the person presenting them. What you are advocating is a sheep-like mindset: believe the people you like and disbelieve the people you don't. Literally one of the biggest problems in society, and a major contributor to tribalism.

>>9610788
>He never refers to primary sources and specifically said he prefers not to read them, so I doubt he's read a complete work by him.

>he hasn't read derrida
>I doubt he's read derrida
>I have no fucking idea if he's read derrida

>>9607689
>He's a pseud.
If that's what you call one of the most cited personality research scientists in the world, fine.

>>9610817
He's disagreeing with the scientific consensus in a field outside of his expertise. That's atrocious behavior for a scientist no matter how you look at it. I don't have anything against him talking about psychology, of course.

>>9610829
Fair. I should have said I'm almost certain he hasn't.

Why does everyone always overlook his latent homosexuality?

>>9610836
He vociferously expresses very strong opinions on topics outside his area of expertise. That's the definition of a pseud.

>>9610850
I guess because he's been happily married to a woman for decades.

>>9610861

Wow a beard!
Anyone who watches him for a moment can pick up his latent homosexuality. Please do not lie to yourself.

>>9610817
This is obviously not true. Is some random blog worthy of the same scrutiny as an academic paper? The persons credentials do matter. And Peterson is not an authority - and in fact deoesn't even seem particularly well read by amateur standards - on philosophical issues.

There is a rumor on campus he molests little boys. Never was sure how he covered that one up, from what I am told that kid had bruises all over his body.

>>9610653
eh, Peterson is into politics now?

>>9610885
He has been for like half a year

>>9610715
>In this video he may have said something that somewhat implies he has the potential to have doubts about a specific and exact definition of climate change!
Jesus Christ, environmentalists are cultists.

>>9610866
Fuck off butt pirate

>>9610872
>Is some random blog worthy of the same scrutiny as an academic paper?
Yes? Why do you fetishize authority? Truth is truth regardless of where it comes from.
>The persons credentials do matter.
No, not really. Unless you're literally too dumb to learn things for yourself, you shouldn't just rely on what someone says because they're an "authority."
>And Peterson is not an authority
According to who? He taught at Harvard and millions of people listen to what he has to say, can that be said of you?
>and in fact deoesn't even seem particularly well read by amateur standards - on philosophical issues.
Okay, bro, but, that's just like, your opinion.

I don't get why people always talk about philosophy when Peterson approaches nearly everything from a psychology point-of-view.

>>9610993
Peterson talks a lot about Nietzsche, though I guess the psychological and sociological material is the most interesting part of Nietzsche's work

>>9611009
Literally everybody talks about Nietzsche, that's the great thing about him, he's so heavily over exposed to undergrads you can have a conservation about him with nearly anybody.

I am interested in the self-authoring stuff, but fear that I'm too cynical and full of self-loathing to honestly try it.

>>9610645
so do I.

what's the fucking problem?

>muh deconstruction

>>9608727
fuck, what a squeaky voice.

I don't know, anons, this is just such a turn-off if he's doing the video tutorials himself.

>>9610885
He has always been into politics, watch his older vids.

>>9610993
JP's fans are all pseuds who think anyone who doesn't talk about the world like Bill Nye or Lawrence Krauss is a philosopher.

>>9607622
I had a conversation with someone today and they mentioned this self authorship thing. I found the pastebin of it. Is it actually worth it or is it just a meme

as a psychologist i can tell you that he only spout nonsense

>>9611400
so it's just a meme then

>>9611400
how so?

>>9607717
this is leftypol

>>9610993
Psychology and philosophy can be heavily intertwined if the psychological approach you are taking is not one that has been subsumed by the scientific monism of the natural sciences.

>>9611397
Post the pastebin por favor

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>>9607639
>>9607655
>>9607911
>>9607982
>>9608181
>>9608571
why enter JBP threads at all if you're not interested in thoughtful discussion? the real pseuds reveal themselves.

>>9612518
I arbitrarily contribute to keep the threads going. they act as good containment threads for /pol/ tourists

>>9607622
it's pretty good, it helps you put your thoughts in order and make you confront how you are and why and so on.

>>9612487
i remember it being posted a couple times in pol, search the archives or google. but i think it's probably worth the price if you have slight depression or anxiety, or if you aren't sure what to do with your life. although i don't know how much it costs exactly, both of the subscriptions i have were free

>>9612521
prob not true to the intent of the board but I admire the strategy anon

>>9612532
thanks for this reply. makes a change from the cunt above.

>>9611030
I would suggest writing about yourself more, then you'll realise how cringy your self-loathing attitude is and change yourself.

Disregard this "self-authoring" nonsense though. Just keep a journal and reflect and criticise yourself sincerely.

>>9610848

>scientific consensus

That is a stupid thing to say about science and reveals you don't know shit about it.

>>9610657
He doesn't talk about Lacan at all. He's very open about Freud's shortcomings and points them out constantly when lecturing on Freud. He emphasizes Freud's contributions, even though he was wrong about many things, because he was "wrong in an interesting way."

He's not a Freudian, he's a Jungian.

>>9610848
What science? The only scientific figure in the debate between Peterson and Postmodern conceptions of identity is Peterson. Derrida is not a scientist. There are only 2 genders according to scientific consensus. Identity is heavily determined by biology according to scientific consensus.