Do I have to be a pervert to be a good writer?
>Joyce
>Chaucer
>Nabokov
>Henry Miller
>Roth
>Pynchon
Al of these guys are highly admired here and were sexually perverse. I feel like great minds in literature are by and large sexually perverse with fetishes that are quite strange or not publicly accepted in the least. Do I need to have fetishes that are unacceptable to normies?
>>9572512
>no Kafka on this list
Cherry-picking. Was Dante, or Vergilius, Faulkner, Tolstoy, Gogol, Flaubert, Melville, especially perverted?
>>9572533
Yes
>>9572539
I guess you're right then.
>>9572533
>Faulkner
>Flaubert
Wouldn't at all be surprised if these two were.
Pynchon didn't really do anything perverted except fuck some dumb hippy chicks...who were fbi
>>9572533
>Melville
he wanted to suck the Leviathan's member
My right wing poli sci professor told me all creatives are perverts
>>9572522
How was he a perv
>>9572533
It's not like you could know for sure. What could Dante have been into
And was Yeats a perv
>>9572962
Yeats was a willing cuckold to Maud Gonne and encouraged her to get creampied by virile young nationalists
>>9572959
Didn't he have some weird porn art stashed away? I recall it containing some weird drawing of bigfoot or something.
>>9572959
max brod """deleted""" some diary entries
and good for him, no one needs to know this shit about authors, do you like to read literature or do you like to read gossip?
>>9572962
>What could Dante have been into
Femdom
>>9572959
>Jew
>Not having some strange sexual perversion
Okay Rabbi
>>9572996
Link pls
>>9572934
For Freud, perversion pretty much means transgression of norms in the name of a higher law (even if that just means creativity as final law) so there's something to it, even if not all artists were explicilty sexual deviants.
Imo the most brilliant analysis of this is made by Deleuze, who was a big fan of Henry Miller, Masoch, D. H. Lawrence, Joyce, the Beats and many others.
>Thomas Mann
>Oscar Wilde
>Jean Jacques Rousseau
>Alexander Pushkin
>F. Scott Fitzgerald
>Jean Genet
This thread gives me hope I can become a good writer!
>>9573043
What's your perversion, fellow perv?
>>9572999
Uh it does matter. You're just worried people will learn about your fetishes. Don't worry though no one will ever care about you
>>9573045
limes
>>9573049
What about them?
>>9573051
their shape, color, texture. just makes me rock hard
>>9573053
can't tell if irony or not
>>9573054
when i was 7 i saw a girl rubbing herself with one. i dont think she knew what she was doing as she was too young but ever since limes have really done it for me
>>9572512
How is Pynchon and Nabokov perverse? You know you can talk about paedophilia without being one.
>>9573060
Wish I could explain mine.
You should write a magnum opus in which either a main character or a supporting character reaches an intellectual (and sexual) epiphany by stimulating themselves with a lime.
>>9573004
>At the focus of Hawes' investigation are pictures he stumbled across in the British Library in London and the Bodleian in Oxford of the pornography to which Kafka subscribed while in his twenties. They include images of a hedgehog-style creature performing fellatio, golem-like male creatures grasping women's breasts with their claw-like hands and a picture of a baby emerging from a sliced-open leg.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/15/franzkafka.germany
>>9572930
Melville was as pure as new fallen snow mate. It didn't even cross his mind that people would think him sleeping in the same bed, cuddling, and squeezing sperm with other dudes was in any way sexual.
>>9575030
Just because he didn't understand his desires doesn't mean he didn't have them.
>>9572512
Nah but most writers worth their salt from Nietzche to Gaiman and everyone in between has some kind of personality disorder.
>>9573051
holy fuck kek
I keep forgetting I'm on 4chan when I come to this board.
>>9575041
It's pretty easy to claim all authors are pervs using that logic, not that I disagree.
>>9572512
And Thomas fucking Mann
>>9573049
>>9573053
>Now you can squeeze my lemon 'til the juice run down my...
(spoken) 'til the juice rune down my leg, baby, you know what I'm talkin' about
You can squeeze my lemon 'til the juice run down my leg
(spoken) That's what I'm talkin' 'bout, now
But I'm goin' back to Friars Point, if I be rockin'to my head
>>9574416
>a picture of a baby emerging from a sliced-open leg.
So, Athena?
>>9575082
If they unconsciously write scenes with powerful erotic overtones, then it's a strong indication they're attracted to it.
>W.H Auden