Do you think Rupi Kaur is aware of the fact that an actual 6

Yes
YES

>How can we tell her?
twitter should do it

>there are people on /lit/ right now who like rupi kaur

>the male is more creative than the female
Nothing new here. I won't even bother to point out that the male in question is a six year old, since all women are just grown up children.

>>9539229
Both of these blow dick

>>9539248
The tiger poem is great dude shut the fuck up

>>9539244
FUCK OFF BACK TO /pol/

>>9539251
>Yes
>YES
postmodern af

>>9539229
a modern Blake

>>9539262
>this was made 7 years ago
Jesus christ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_VheAwZBuQ

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deep

>>9539229
What can be read in "The Tiger"
>will to power
>the futility of human barriers against the force of nature
>embracing the dionisyac
What can be read in the rupi kaur one
>slave morality
>passive agression
And by the way the name "They're Singing a Song in Their Rocket" is so /lit/

>>9539247
>grown up children
hmmm

>>9539248
Maybe you're judging the poetry of a six year old outside the proper context

>>9539229
Great work by Nael.
>>9539329
>the name "They're Singing a Song in Their Rocket" is so /lit/

I love it too.

>>9539329

in nael's work "the tiger" you can hear clearly the cry of the primal one, it's actually pottery

>>9539251
Yes
YES

>>9539388
I'm judging it as the poetry of a sex year old.

>The tiger
>He destroyed his cage
>Yes
>YES
>The tiger is out

Love the simplicity of this. Its impossible to misinterpret: this is a poem about a primal force of nature laying waste to the obstacles that restrain it. He's done a great job of evoking the strength and unrelenting drive of the tiger. Notice the word choice: the tiger didn't break out of his cage, he didn't slip out between the bars, he didn't escape: he destroyed his cage, and now there is nothing to hold him back.
Great work from such a young mind.

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found an illustration of the tiger poem.

>>9539451
Children are our only source of sincere art

>>9539229
> as you
> shut the door behind you

How can anybody think this was poetic and not just fucking repetitive?

>>9539229
Why is it a good thing that the tiger is out?

>>9539482

Now we can ride it

>rupi kaur's banal sincerity pales in comparison to the pure imagination of a child who is still innocently bewildered by the world

no big surprise here. if you want to be really subversive, put the poems next to each other without the context that a 6 year old child wrote the tiger one.

>>9539482
It is not a literal tiger, it is a repressed form of any kind with the potential and ability to be and have more, but is restricted by the cage.

As the tiger destroys its obstacle, it is free with much encouragement from everything - you work hard, it pays off.

>>9539482

Don't ignore the duality of the two yes's (which is, rather brilliantly, illustrated by the fact that there are two of them). They can interpreted in two ways:
1) the narrator indicates that he is happy about the fact that the tiger destroyed the cage, or 2) the narrator may merely be affirming it, stating the fact that yes indeed, the cage is destroyed.

>>9539229
>Yes
>YES

fuckin lol good shit, I will implement this from now on.

>>9539229
To be fair, Nael is outperforming just about everyone in poetry.

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>a six year old writes more interesting poetry than me

>>9539329
Holy shit

>>9539451
>The tiger
>He destroyed his cage
>Yes
>YES
>The tiger is out

Love the simplicity of this. It's impossible to misinterpret: this is the poem of a kid who's happy a tiger escaped. He's done a great job of picking his favorite animal, and knows it's strong. Notice the word choice: the tiger didn't break out of his cage, he didn't slip out between the bars, he escape: he destroyed his cage, because a tiger is strong and the kid wants it so the tiger can't be put back right away.
Such a normal work from a typical kid.

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>>9539229

>be nael
>20 years from now
>dad died from lung cancer 6 years ago, mom very recently passed away aswell
>gray april day
>cleaning out dead mom's house
>only one box of stuff left
>find a folder in it labeled 'nael - pre school, 2016'
>discover an old poem, apparently part of an anthology
>whatisthis.hypxr
>read it, smile at my innocence, think about my younger self
>memories of mom and dad starts showering me, feels hit me hard as trains
>filled with melancholic nostalgia, decide to try and look the anthology up on the hypernet
>hypergoogle my name, the poem and the anthology
>bunch of random links, go to second page of hypergoogle
>see this weirdly named site, it's an old website, not a hypersite
>rupi kaur [...] 6 year old outperforming [...] great work by nael
>w-what
>click on https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S9539229#
>see my poem
>bunch of anonymous people praising me and my innocence
>lost all ability to detect irony because hyperreality is real
>they're actually analyzing my poem, they liked it
>read posts saying I outperform everyone, great job nael, love the simplicity
>check date: 20 years ago
>wow
>already in a very emotional state, tears now start running down my cheeks
>sit down on the floor, think of parents, my youth and these kind anons
>stay on the floor for a long time
>suddenly hear birds chirping, look out the window
>the sun has fought its way through the clouds, front lawn and street looks beautifully serene bathing in sunlight
>take a deep breath, smile and get up
>put the folder back into the last box, pick it up and exit the house
>get in my hovering car
>as I make a move to start the car, my eyes linger on the folder with the poem again
>feel a sudden immense sense of joy and gratitude
>tears start flowing again, but out of happiness this time
>everything will be alright
>thank you 4chan, I say out loud to myself
>wipe face with my hand, smile and drive away

>>9539870
U suck anon

>>9539229
I don't know if you guys are being ironic about the poem on the right but I not insincerely like it and wouldn't have guessed it was written by a 6 year old

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>>9539870
damn

the tiger is the Self
the cage is social conditioning
the Self destroys social conditioning through willpower and obtains liberation

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why do you care
the general public has never appreciated good shit and im sure you dont either

>>9539966
>the tiger is the Self
this at the very least

also i like to think of the poem as spectatorial. The poet-narrator is an observer, but a distanced one. this accounts for the wonderful irony of feeling joy and excitement at seeing a tiger destroy his cage. Under normal circumstances he ought to be terrified and run for his life; but this would obviously give no time for words, and much less time to write a poem. but his distance from the catastrophe and danger enables the poetry. what we're being told here is clearly that the poet can not be involved with his subject and still have it as a subject. art begins when the observer and the observed are clearly and sharply segmented from one another. 10/10 poem

>>9539229
Something is wrong with me. I unironically think about this Tiger poem all the time. It makes me want to take control of my life. Not even memeing.

I intepreted the "yes YES" part as someone first explaining to someone that a lion has escaped. The person he talks to says "yes" in a relaxed way, while the person talking replies in a worried fashon. "YES, the tiger is out"
It shows a form of existential dread and that people cannot percieve dangerous situations. Maybe it comments on the social aspects of todays society with all the nihilists who don't really care for the society they live in.

>>9539229
>Also, is this the end goal of a post-modern literary society
Nah, it's got nothing to do with postmodernism. Premodern literature was full of hacks too.

>>9539482
Last man detected

>>9539482
Because it yearns to be free.

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>>9540020
Nothing wrong with that at all

>>9540020
if this was a poem by Keats or Blake or anyone famous, you wouldn't feel bad at all. you'd just be glad you found a poem that spoke to you.

you're falling for two of society's memes here: first, that children cannot produce anything profound, and second, that if you are enjoying a work of art, you are enjoying an expression of an "artist." belief in the second point has had a disastrous effect on art by making the artwork only a pretense to look into the artist's life. you can see this in the demand that we read more books by women and people of color: no one is saying that these groups should write more books, or that they should improve their writing, but that we, as consumers, have an obligation to extend our admiration to an equal mix of races and genders. but this admiration is only a side effect of art, not its main purpose.

you like the words in the poem, not the poet. no one knows anything about nael. i dont even know if it's a male or female name. but i know that they discovered a combination of words that touches on something ineffable. if anything, it's more meaningful that you love a poem by a child, because it means that you're not being swayed by society's expectations of what a poet "should look like."

>>9539950
Is this supposed to be ironic?

>>9539870
Lol good stuff

i dont even think we can call this breed of irony irony anymore

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I liked some of her more recent work.

>>9539229
>breaking up sentences
>in random
>places
>automatically makes it
>profound poetry

>>9539482

It is indicative of the child's innate desire to see how situations unfold. The child is young and not experienced with the world, he needs to observe and learn how the world works, which leads them into a destructive curiosity. The child does not know right from wrong, all he knows is wants to see what happens when a strong animal that cannot easily be stopped is released from its cage, free to wreak havoc and glean information from the ensuing chaos that will be useful to its future survival.

>>9540145
Depends on if satire is inherently ironic.

>>9540232
Who is this? Where can I read more?

>>9540232
You're just
Not smart
Enough
To understand
True poetry

>>9539247
>grown up children.
what did he mean by this

>>9540268
rupi kaur would never capitalize any of her
sentences
you are a
asshole

>>9539451
the power of the poem is the ecstasy of the exclamation of yes. i think the last line is kinda weak though, maybe its the only possible line.

can anyone punch up the poem of a 6 year old?

>>9540204
bane?

>>9539950
her poems remind me of oscar wilds "all bad poetry comes from a place of genuine emotion". like the poetry itself is obviously bad but calling it shit is hitting someone whos obviously putting herself in such a vulnerable position.

>>9540284
>can anyone punch up the poem of a 6 year old?
Yes I believe it's much better like this:

The tiger
He destroyed his cage
Yes
YES
YEESSSSSS!

Do you think an original manuscript of "The Tiger" exists? It's probably valuable.

>>9540306
Perhaps if you placed the last line of the original after the second. I still prefer the other.

>>9540306
no

>The tiger
>He destroyed his cage
>Yes
>YES
>No longer bound

>>9539329
>>embracing the dionisyac

>impying the point is not the balance between the dionysian and the apollonian

This kid is a modernist pleb

>>9540284
my own attempt:

The tiger
He destroyed his cage
Yes
YES
He walks around

...and the lionesses and gazelles and polar bears and meerkats and the Zoo where I was a boy in the crowd yes when I put the spoon in the Dippin' Dots like my uncle used or shall I wear my monkey hat yes and how he stared at my from behind his bars and I thought well as well he is a tiger and then I asked him with my eyes to escape this place yes and then he roared and gripped the cage yes to say yes Nael my friend and first he put his arms around the bars yes and tore them apart so he could walk down so I could pet him and his tail was swaying like mad and yes he's out yes he is YES.

>>9540341
This is kinda cool
>>9540336
Doesn't fit at all stylistically and also makes it too obvious

>>9539229
ok here is an analysis that prolly make yall eyes roll but look at the position of the exciting live of the poem:


The tiger
He destroyed his cage
Yes
YES
The tiger is out

the "yes // YES" is locked between longer descriptive sentences, like the tiger is locked in the cage. kinda neat huh

>>9539229
I finished rupi kaur's milk and honey in 50 minutes (200 pages!), it sucked ass.
I know
how
to poetry too

>>9540284
The power of the poem isn't just the exclamation, it's how that exclamation is restrained by that distanced reportage style of stating facts, and returns to documenting the status of the tiger in the last line. This is why I don't think it's a weak line. It's like someone on the news gets a bit carried away and after a brief outburst returns to the professional tone while still trying to hide that excitement.

The tiger
He destroyed his cage
Yes
YES
The people are running

>The tiger
>He destroyed his cage
>Yes
>YES
>Echoes still,his roar

this is an excellent thread

>>9540342
good post anon

>>9540349
I don't really buy this.

>>9539926
>insincerely
Really? I sincerely like the poem. I imagine that was a mistake to say that you ironically like this poem, but if you meant it then you suck dude.

>>9540414
No, he's saying that he not insincerely likes it, which means he sincerely likes it

>>9540417
I guess. Hope he liked it.

>>9540417
He doesn't not insincerely like it, he does NOT not insincerely like it

>>9540424
>The anon
>he enjoys a poem
>not
>NOT
>the post is sincere

The Swede
He locked his chastity cage
Sweden
YES
I'm. coming. out

>>9539325
You know, this wasn't that terrible until the last verse. Has she ever heard of subtlety?

>>9540145
>>9540305
That poem is a parody from another thread

>>9540284
I think the last line adds something. Instead of just reveling in the escape, it also turns its attention to the consequences. The tiger is out now. Who knows what's going to happen next? Probably something cool.

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>>9540204
You're a big poet

>>9540341
I prefer "The tiger is out." Something exciting about the way it sounds

>>9540342
Wonderful

>>9540607
same anon, its the perfect ending. It just has this tone of finality, like a grand announcement or something, triumphant and thrilling, tantalizing you to know whats next in the moment but leaving you content with the infinitively eternal suspension of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

>>9540232
i actually did this when i had to write poems in middle school

>>9540380
How does it feel to be a worse poet than a 6 year old

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>>9540576
uuuu

>>9540762
uhhh, hahahHAHahah

>>9540048
this desu

Homo hominis tigris est.

>>9540356
>>9540562
This. Last line makes the poem.

>>9539870
>>lost all ability to detect irony because hyperreality is real
>>they're actually analyzing my poem, they liked it

Nael, I actually like it; I'm not being sarcastic.

>>9540892
I LOVE this poem, Nael. Truly, sincerely.

Yes
YES

>>9539870
I never thought of this kind of thing as poetry before

>>9539870
If future Nael is reading this, he has to reply to this post or his mom will die in her sleep


Oh, wait

>>9540232
This, but unironically. Breaking up the sentences is additional inflection and pauses that places emphasis on certain themes or phrasings.

then he asked me would I yes to say yes my cage and first I put my paws around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my canines all blood yes and his heart was going out and yes I said yes I will YES.

>>9541039
>>9540342
get out

>>9539482
>Yes
>YES

That should be enough for you to understand why.

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>>9540306
>YEESSSSSS!

>>9539229
It's just drivel that the aveage woman will find "relatable"

>>9540118
not that anon, but this was beautifully written

Nael's poem is unironically great (proof is people ITT failed to rewrite it, even though it's extremely short and simple). All the children do have some genius, said Cocteau.

>>9539491
Lel underrated

This thread brought me some genuine joy and laughs. I was feeling soul-crushing anguish before and this thread caught me off guard

>>9540284
The last line highlights the external, that there was a place where the tiger was not, but now that place is gone. The tiger is out.

>>9540892
Same. We love you Nael

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>>9539251
>>9539451
>>9539496
>>9539926
>>9539966
>>9540284
>>9539496
>>9540020
>>9540562
>>9540065
>>9540118
>>9540607
>>9540667
>>9540886
>>9540892
>>9540906
>>9541750
This is one of the best threads I've seen on /lit/ in a while. I don't know how many of you are being sincere (although some of you have stated so), but I know that I love that Tiger poem, without a trace of irony, and there'a something very pleasing about finding that others feel the same way, and even have nearly identical interpretations on what it means to them.

>>9541732
More proof that this thread is gold

>>9539229
Post-modernism is finished and Nael has killed it. DFW died for this.

>>9541780
>>9541732
>>9541785
And we're only 117 replies in. Come on boys, let's have some more fun

Ive been gone from /lit/ for a couple years. Who is Rapi? the new Tao and Mira?

>>9540284
The tiger
He destroyed his cage
Yes
YES
Dis gon' be good

Seriously though, the last line is perfect as it is.

>>9539244
I actually doubt this.

>>9539229
>Yes / YES
It's so fucking primal I love it

>>9540284
It was written in the creative ecstasy of childhood(before the death of sincerity) and innocence. Literally impossible to improve. This is REAL art and thus impossible to "improve". Your post is as ridiculous as if you asked us to "punch up" some Homer or Shakespeare.

I left this thread this morning thinking it was just some silly poem we were pretending to love but I couldn't get it out of my head all day. What is it about this poem? For some reason it really stuck with me

>>9541911
Art is the gateway into the spiritual realm, it is a revealer of higher truths, it is as much philosophy and prayer, as craft.

>>9541913
>>9541917

Awe.

>>9539229
Too bad Nael's identity is lost to anonimity forever. I would laugh so hard if Nael turned out to be a girl.

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Are there any wallpapers of Nael's poem yet?

>>9541913
>>9541917
Wtf

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>>9541913
>>9541917

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>>9541889
>Dis gon' be good

>>9540279
that 'a asshole' did it for me man fuck

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How do I get into poetry?
Any anthalogies/authors besides Nael that I cna read starting out?
Any good works about poetry that you can recommend?

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>>9540925
kek

>>9540232

Worked for Ginsberg.

>>9539482
>9539482
to cATCh it

>>9542862
Throw yourself at the master, T.S. Eliot.

Read 'The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock' and 'The Wasteland' and dive deep.

>>9539229
Nael has studied his Pound and Blake.

>>9540232
This is a really great poem, honestly made think (and laugh).

ITT: uuh 6 years old :3 :3 this poem sure is a masterpiece let's fantasize about its meaning!!

Isn't DFW & Co. cool anymore?

You're a bunch of pathetic faggots and you have never read a poetry book in your life.

That poem is bad, just like kuki paur and everything you faggots have ever written.

>>9543152
this is like laughing at any lazy deconstruction of "modern" art that you'd find in a newspaper funny section, you philistine fedora-tipper.

>>9543155
Write a better one, you salty shitskin hussy.

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Have you checked your digit duplicates today

>>9543254
nice

>>9539239
underrated

>>9543233
>"modern" art
Modern """"art""""
>fedora-tipper
People
who don't like what I like
are wearing hats I
don't like.
:^)

>>9543327
Can't hate on this post, but my point was made.

It's like she wants to be a cool minimalist poet, but instead, she becomes a WCW rip-off McKek face. She is so fucking surface it angers me. It's like she read an Anne Sexton poem and thought "Hey, I can make trash, too!" There's no gravity to her work. What you read, is merely it. There's so little that extends from the poem. And the drawings, oh the fucking drawings. So fucking surface. OYE .

>>9542862
find a poet from your country of origin. Read them and then you will be set free.

>>9543355
tl:dr ezra pound she ain't

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>>9539229
>tfw The Tiger is actually a profound meditation on the entire history of literature, from its roots, through modernism, and topped off with a postmodern/contemporary climax/twist

The tiger itself is modernism, and the destruction of the cage stands for destroying the 'traditional' literature

>Yes
>YES
invokes the last chapter of 'Ulysses,' Molly's first and last words, which capture the sense of the novel's cohesiveness (after all, 'Ulysses' is often called 'Modernism: The Book' for its profoundness)

now, focus on
>The tiger is out
Sounds familiar? It does – it sounds like police chatter, a friendly conversation, a jest. The tiger – modernism – has now transcended itself, becoming contemporary, postmodern literature. It may seem like it's still part of the poem – and in a sense it is – but now it's BOTH the poem and real life, it has reached the state of superposition every Pynchon scholar is so familiar with; the tiger is now everywhere and nowhere at the same time

and then there's the blank space below. Now it's your, the reader's, turn. Only you can decide if the story of the tiger is worth continuing, or if it should remain unfinished. Art ends wherever you want it to end. Just add a period.

The Tiger is pure art, /lit/; in fact it's so artsy we may struggle to ever comprehend it

This thread has made me really happy.

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>>9543431

>>9540342
bravo

>>9539247
Bite it, Schopenhauer

>>9543355
It's also the same message over and over again

I also like The Tiger

A comfy story for a comfy thread: at the end of his life Borges encountered a tiger and wrote a story about it. I've nearly read everything of his work and this is one of my favourites.

"There have always been tigers in my life. Reading is so woven into all daily habits that I really don't know if my first tiger was the tiger I saw in print or the one - now dead - that paced back and forth stubbornly in its cage while I looked on as if enchanted from the other side of the iron bars. My father liked encyclopedias; I rated them - of this I am sure - according to the pictures of tigers they provided. I am remembering now the pictures in the encyclopedia of Montaner y Simón (a white Siberian tiger and a Bengal tiger) and, in another book, a meticulous pen and ink drawing of a tiger in mid-leap; there was something in him like a river. These visual tigers were soon joined by tigers made out of words: Blake's famous fire ("Tyger, tyger, burning bright ..."), also Chesterton's definition, "an emblem of terrible elegance." When as a child I read The Jungle Books I could never help regretting that Shere Khan was the villain of the story, and not the hero's friend. I would like to recall, though I am unable to do so, a sinuous tiger painted by the brush of a Chinese artist who had never seen a tiger, although he had certainly seen the tiger's archetype. This Platonic tiger can be found in Anita Berry's Art for Children. One might reasonably ask: why tigers instead of leopards or jaguars? I can only answer that spots are not pleasing to me, while stripes are. If I were to write leopard instead of tiger the reader would immediately sense that I was lying. To those tigers of sight and word I have added another, one that was shown to me by our friend Cuttini in that strange zoo called Animal World, a zoo without cages or bars.

This last tiger is made out of flesh and blood. In a show of terrified happiness, I went up to this tiger. Its tongue licked my face and its claws - distracted or caressing - rested on my head. Unlike its predecessors, it had smell and weight. I do not claim that this tiger, which frightened me, is more real than the others, since an oak tree is no more real than the figures in a dream. But I want to thank our friend, the flesh and blood tiger that my senses perceived that morning, whose image comes back to me like those tigers in books.

If children had the skill of advanced language they would be our greatest authors

Ok that's it, I'm getting this poem tattoed.

The tiger
He destroyed his cage
Yes
YES
The tiger gets shot

>>9543872
>implying the entire history of world literature isn't children with advanced language skills

>>9544251
No
NOOOOOO

>>9544257

Pretty much James Blake.

The Tiger poem is leagues ahead of Rupi Kuar's in terms of emotionality
You can picture some slightly chunky, makeup caked Indian woman with a bitchy accent speaking her poems at you and expecting you to love them, but The Tiger has an emotionalism to it that can't be beat. At first, the hushed "Yes" as if the first break of a wave on the shore in the morning, the first murmuring in a crowd about to erupt; however, the "YES" is more mad, more unhinged, like someone who is shocked by what they have seen and can only smile and be in awe at the terror they've witnessed. There's something profoundly human about the whole thing: doing something we shouldn't, being glad it has been done, then marveling in pure terror at the Sublimity of ones action.
However, all is not lost; we are meant to reflect on our actions, to see what they have done, and it is implied that we must become better than what lead us to releasing the tiger in the first place. We have wrought something we didn't intend to on the world by letting the Tiger out, but that doesn't mean we cannot learn from this mistake. Nael perfectly displays humanity's need to redeem itself.
The Tiger better captures the human reaction towards the Sublime than any other work of art I have ever read. He has near Dostoevsky levels of awareness of the human spirit and our need to pick up the pieces of what we have wrought. Rupi's shit can only be "related to" by bitchy millennial women, but Nael's contains the whole of human suffering, wonder, and redemption in a scant 5 lines.

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The gorilla
He destroyed his cage
Yes
YES
Rest in peace Harambe

:)

I need to read poetry again. It was my first love even if my first poetic obsession was Ginsberg.

>>9540118
well said

>>9539244
I prefer to doubt this, for me rupi is on the same level of Stephenie Meyer

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Found this when googling for The Tiger, which is also good

>>9544940
makes me wonder if there's books of retarded poetry out there.

>>9544978
I don't what your angle is with this post, but do you honestly need to wonder if there are anthologies of vapid art in existence?

>>9544984
isnt that the entire point of the thread?

Well at least I found a retarded post.

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>>9544992

>>9543254
I'm checking his>>9543277

>>9539229

Yes
YES

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>>9544995

>>9539482

Sweden Yes.

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>>9545012
YES