How do I start with the Greeks? Other than the Odyssey/Iliad,

Homer, Hesiod, Pindar, Herodotus, Thucydides, the plays, the presocratics, Plato, Aristotle

>>9532635
this except dump the presocratics and aristotle

>>9532542
Plays, all of them. Pindar. All the philosophy. Hesiod. Theocritus. Sappho.

>>9532542
>how do I start with the Greeks?
>I've already read 2 things
Well I guess you would read some more

>>9532542
Read all the following books:
The Persians
The Oresteia
Theogony
The Histories
History of the Peloponnesian War
The Republic
Medea
The Persian Expedition
The Nicomachean Ethics
Lysistrata
Electra
Poetics
The Campaigns of Alexander
If Not, Winter
Aesop Fables
On Sparta

>>9534720
in that order? thank you, not op.

>>9534720
>>9534733
No, not in that order. The tragedy choices are also entirely arbitrary.

Try this:
>Homer, Iliad and Odyssey (Do yourself a favour and go Pope)
>Homeric Hymns
>Hesiod, Theogony and Works and Days
>Lyric poets, including Sappho, Archilochus, Simonides etc.
>Pindar, Victory Odes (Also the odes of Bacchylides if they're your thing)
>Aeschylus, works especially Oresteia (you'll get more out of Persians after reading Herodotus)
>Sophocles, works (Ajax is a personal favourite)
>Euripides, works
>Aristophanes, works
>Herodotus, Histories
>Thucidydes, Peloponnesian War
>Plato, works
>Aristotle, works

>>9534950
I entirely forgot to mention the presocratics and sophists, which should be read somewhere before Plato. (I say somewhere as Euripides makes several allusions to presocratic philosophy, but it's preferable it's fresh in your mind when starting philosophy proper with the Plates).

What translation of Thucydides should I get?

Learn greek

Which translations of Medea and the Argonautica would you recommend?

>>9532542
Sophocles (Oedipus-Trilogy) Aischylos (Orestes), Euripides (Medea), then Plato's Republic, Trial and Symposion and Aristotle's 'Poetics'.

Then Nietzsche's 'Birth of Tragedy'.

>>9537614
Please, someone.

>>9534720
Bump for more Greek material like this

>>9532542
read percy jackson

read plato's five great dialogues, aritstotle ethics, some Epicurus, letters from a stoic, and top it off with Marcus Aurelius.

>>9537614
I have Diane Arnson Svarlien's translation of Medea, I don't know how it stacks against other ones but I liked it.

>>9535532
The Landmark.

Its extremely important to know the ancient song-stories they used to do thousands of years ago in greece.

>>9532542
Don't start with the Greeks

If you're in the anglosphere you start with the KJV Bible and Shakespeare

>>9532985
And skip Pythagoras!? Be honest you're a filthy bean-eater.

>>9539509
Kek

>>9532542
Start from the disc of Faistos.

Herodotus is so fucking good, if you read only one more Greek read him.

>>9532985
What not to do: the post

>>9540052
Should I go for the edition with all the maps?

Lit:

Homer, Iliad & Odyssey
Hesiod, Theogony & Works & Days
Sappho
Aeschylus, The Oresteia
Sophocles, The Theban plays
Euripides, Medea
Aristophanes, Lysistrata
Apollonius, Argonautica

Phil:
A Presocratics Reader
The Pythagorean Sourcebook
The Cynic Philosophers
Cyrenaics Handbook
Plato: Complete Works
The Complete Works of Aristotle, Vol. 1-2
Hellenistic Philosophy: Introductory Readings

Seriously, just look up any classics syllabus from any .edu site. Everyday this thread.

What're some good translations of Sophocles' plays?

>>9540771

Fagles did the Theban plays; should be readily available. Penguin, maybe?

>>9540734
>Aeschylus, The Oresteia
>Sophocles, The Theban plays
>Euripides, Medea
>Aristophanes, Lysistrata

is this the core of the greek plays? should I add some more?

Is it ok to read prose versions of Greek plays like Medea?

>>9541232
No.

>>9542267
Then recommend me a proper translation, please.

>>9542424
Diane Arnson Svarlien.

>>9534720
>reading Poetics without reading Sophocles' Three Theban Plays

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heres the meme mate hope you have a cracker of a time.
now
back to my timtams

>>9534950

whats wrong with Fagles?

Samuel Butler, yes or no?

>>9543958
He uses colloquial phrases like "bring the noise" and "open a can of whoop ass"

>>9541199
If you're not a completionist, this is just about passable for an overview of the playwrights. In all honesty though, aside from a couple of spuriously attributed plays ("Aeschylus'" Prometheus Bound and "Euripides'" Rhesus) you can't really go wrong. You'll find Aeschylus' Persians poignant if you've read Herodotus. Everything of Euripides is worth a read, especially his take on the toils of war in Hecuba, The Trojan Women and Andromache. Aiais' speech on time in Sophocles' eponymous play is astounding.

>>9541232
Yes. You'll enjoy verse translations more, though.

>>9543958
Nothing. Ideally, you'd read both a more literal translation like a Fagles—or Fitzgerald, Lattimore etc.—as well as Pope. But, for me at least, Pope's translations possess a magical quality that the others lack.

>>9540052
This.

>>9539509
Derision comes too easily to the fool.

>>9538212
keked

>Greek language (2-3 years for four hours per day).
>Advanced Greek language.
>Homeric Greek.
>The Iliad.
>The Odyssey.
>Sophocles.
>Herodotus.
>Peloponnesian War.
>Plato.
>Aristotle.

>>9540746
The sticky should be updated. /meta/ thread anyone?