Was he right?

yes, but he could have benefited from a little introspection about why his christian family had to leave islamic egypt for a western christian country...

Absolutely, though I don't think it was his plan to be appropriated by SJW evangelicalism

>>9497243
In certain respects, but his overall argument has a strange element of "Occidentalism" to it, which contains the same logic as the Orientalism he's criticizing. Also, a peculiar overreliance on arguments that could be characterized as "Western" or as having their grounds and sources in Western philosophy. Trivial where true, and interesting but terribly incoherent otherwise.

>>9497243
Yeah, but incredibly repetitive and also pretty exaggerated IMO. Sure, imperial power relations shape scholarly presentations of 'the Orient', but IIRC he sometimes seems to argue that that makes those presentations basically useless- without actually proving his case. In other parts he's more circumspect about his claims.

The repetitiveness is a killer, though. Unless you're seriously studying the book, I'm genuinely not sure what you get from reading the whole thing that you wouldn't get from a paragraph summary.

>A's interpretation of the Orient was shaped by imperialism
>B's interpretation of the Orient was shaped by imperialism
>C's interpretation of the Orient was also shaped by imperialism
Etcetcetc

>>9497243
Can you summarize his views, please?

He was partially right but obviously had an extreme bias against the West.

The fact that he argued from a non-theological perspective is the only thing that separates his analysis from Sayyid Qutb.

>>9497243
No. The porn in your pic was popular *after* the zenith of colonialism.

>Said rolled American racism and European colonialism into one mélange of white oppression of darker-skinned peoples. He was not the only thinker to have forged this amalgam, but his unique further contribution was to represent “Orientals” as the epitome of the dark-skinned; Muslims as the modal Orientals; Arabs as the essential Muslims; and, finally, Palestinians as the ultimate Arabs. Abracadabra—Israel was transformed from a redemptive refuge from two thousand years of persecution to the very embodiment of white supremacy.

>There was one final step in this progression: Edward Said as the emblematic Palestinian. From the time he came into the public eye, Said presented himself as an “exile” who had been born and raised in Jerusalem until forced from there at age twelve by the Jews. A sympathetic writer in the Guardian put it: “His evocation of his own experience of exile has led many of his readers in the west to see him as the embodiment of the Palestinian tragedy.” Indeed, he wrote and narrated a 1998 BBC documentary, In Search of Palestine, which presented his personal story as a microcosm of this ongoing Nakba (or catastrophe, as Palestinians call the birth of Israel).

>But in September 1999, Commentary published an investigative article by Justus Reid Weiner presenting evidence that Said had largely falsified his background. A trove of documents showed that until he moved to the United States to attend prep school in 1951, Said had resided his entire life in Cairo, not Palestine. A few months later, Said published his autobiography, which confirmed this charge without acknowledging or making any attempt to explain the earlier contrary claims that he had made in discussing his background.

Also:

>Critics pointed out a variety of errors in Orientalism, starting with bloopers that suggested Said’s grasp of Middle Eastern history was shaky. Said claimed that “Britain and France dominated the Eastern Mediterranean from about the end of the seventeenth century on,” whereas for another hundred years it was the Ottomans who ruled that area. He had written that the Muslim conquest of Turkey preceded that of North Africa, but in reality it followed by about four hundred years. And he had referred to British “colonial administrators” of Pakistan whereas Pakistan was formed in the wake of decolonization.

>>9498124
>The porn in your pic was popular *after* the zenith of colonialism
How on earth would that refute the argument of his book? You have read it, right?

>ad hominems with a political agenda so clear it can be seen from space
Mmmmm, compelling.

>>9498124
it's a work of literary criticism, mainly how the idea of the orient is constructed in western texts...there isn't anything in the book about zionism, stop getting so buttblasted (((bro)))

>>9497593
>>9498124

>A trove of documents showed that until he moved to the United States to attend prep school in 1951

It's ironic that the most privileged minorities are usually the most vocally opposed to Western culture.

>>9498717
Yeah, it's almost like their privileged status allows them to acquire the necessary education and institutional connections to develop arguments, have academic and media influence,
and make their voices heard or something. Crazy, right?

>>9498815
Next up: it turns out that for some reason the author of Das Kapital wasn't a barely literate Swabian potato farmer.

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generally he was right but as robert irwin points out, he got a lot of things wrong about orientalists.

>>9498815

He could have been living in a mud hovel in some malaria infested date farm, the least he could do would be to say "thanks." You know, Western civilization may not be this perfect utopia, but it's a lot better than anything the Arabs have produced.

>>9498835

You're right, he was a bourgeois Jew who fucked maids.

>>9497243
>kill whitey
take the redpill instead, cuck