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Enlightenment/Nonduality 2017-05-11 08:09:34 Post No. 9494452
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What does /lit/ think of this dialogue I just had with someone on an 'enlightened' subreddit?
>I don't have free will
Deciding what we experience to be "free will" or "no free will" is like trying to decide if the paint color on the wall is egg-shell white or white. The name doesn't define what it is, the color itself defines what it is. Life with "no free will" looks like this, life with "free will" looks like this, so why does it matter?
>All of the things that cause me pain in my life are my fault because I'm not looking at it the right way
Same could be said for "illusion" or "real" They are just labels ascribed to experiences that don't inherently say what they are. But we do know for a fact we are experiencing the experiences themselves. So why get caught up in the labels? We mistake our labels for the things themselves!
>All of the things that cause me pain in my life are my fault because I'm not looking at it the right way
Fault relies on causation, and a singular cause to the way situations seem to arise can't be found in actual experience. Just try it out, why are you reading this here? Find the sole cause.
>My very view of reality is an illusion, and I'm being tricked
There are no tricks, just innocently formed habits and assumptions. Even then, nothing is hidden. Experience of being habitually pigeon-holed into boring narratives shine just as brightly as hanging out with naked beauty.
> don't even exist
"Exists" or "doesn't exist" is another example of labels given to experience that never actually says what it is. Reality is unfathomable, depthless.
Basically, forget about trying to figure anything out because Reality doesn't make sense. The only sense to be made is in the feeling of hereness, nowness, immediacy of experience itself.
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>nonduality
where do i read more on this?
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>>9494458
https://www.reddit.com/r/awakened/
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>>9494462
im not going to use reddit as an information source..... isn't there a book or soemthing
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>>9494452
Eggshell white and pure white are very different. It doesn't matter what name they have. They create entirely different aesthetic experiences. There is a huge difference and if you cant tell them apart then that's a personal problem but it doesn't amount to a philosophical "what's the difference"
This is what happens when junior high kids take world religions and then school gets out and suddenly they are Level 97 Cosmic Lotus levitation masters.
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>>9494458
bump
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>>9494458
>The Book of Not Knowing by Peter Ralston
i also hear good things about Osho and Eckhart Tolle
you can also check out Shinzen Young or Actualized.org on youtube.
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>>9494458
douglas hofstadter "godel escher bach"
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>>9494462
>posting on plebbit
please stay there
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>>9494452
talk is cheaper than ever
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>>9494452
> I don't have free will
"to dwell within samsara [cycles of life, death, rebirth] however is to be subject to the works of those who are mighty among dreamers"
> All of the things that cause me pain in my life are my fault because I'm not looking at it the right way
there is the suffering of being unsatisfactory, incomplete which is resolved after moksha. it doesn't matter how you look at it or who you blame once you are free, you only feel stillness. even physical pain becomes part of mind.
> My very view of reality is an illusion, and I'm being tricked
maya is the illusion that you are not one, not whole.
Reality is an environment.
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>>9494458
rubaiyyat
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