The Waste Land by T.S. Eliot

>>9486162
>First paragraph or so
>See him write random sentence german
>fucking Pseud
>puts down paper

>>9486192
>paragraph
yeah, don't

that's the point
pick up a book u illiterate brainlet

>>9486162
He do the police in different voices

>>9486373
You're not explaining anything, faggot.

>>9486162
Don't get it, just enjoy it.

What's your favourite section, lads? I always love What the Thunder Said.

The entire purpose was for T.S. Eliot to show of his knowledge of Virgil's Aenied.

>>9487656
u dont understand it because u havent fucking read enough u dumbass brainlet
ergo
pick up a book

>>9486162
Pretty much about how shitty the post WWI world is with no faith, no tradition and sexuality without love.

ROCK
WITH
NO
WATER
and also water

>>9490055
>teach us to care
>and not to care

>>9486162
Modernism is one of the hardest things in the world to begin to comprehend. Literally just read more. Difficulty is part of the aesthetic. Read commentaries and other canonical texts responding to and being responded to by Eliot.

Don't give up. No one can bench 2plate their first day at the gym.

>>9487665
The unlit stairs my man. Those fucking unlit stairs hit me pretty hard.

>>9490028

Unless you're a /pol/ack, what's the problem here?

>>9490139
don't be a moron. look at the historical context.

>>9490139
> goes on a literature board
>hates love, tradition and faith
>most of the greatest literature is written about love, tradition and faith

>>9490139
Without tradition our connection to the past is severed. Without faith our connection with the future is severed. Without love our connection to the present is severed.
With no connections, we have no meaning, which is a scary feeling (if you feel anything at all).

>>9490146

I know the context, but the sky didn't fucking fall. Things are relatively fine now. Better, even.

>>9490158

>You have to subscribe to romantic notions of love, tradition and faith to appreciate works pertaining to them

>>9490165

If I give you the benefit of the doubt, this is no excuse to become a reactionary fuck. Go the Nietzschean route instead.

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>start reading poetry 2000 years into the tradition
>wonder why you don't get it
hmm

>>9490180
>I know the context, but the sky didn't fucking fall. Things are relatively fine now. Better, even.
Culture never recovered from WW1, and WW2 finished it off for good

>>9490202

>My romantic/idealized/reactionary conception of culture never recovered from WW1, and WW2 finished it off for good

Wew. Tough luck.

>>9490180
You sound like you have a weak jaw, thick framed glasses, patchy beard and wear graphic t-shirts

>>9487665
Love song of course

we have lingered in the chambers of the sea
by sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
til human voices wake us and we drown

>>9490180
>this is no excuse to become a reactionary fuck.
Who's being a reactionary? It's a poem lamenting the fact.

>>9490222
Great poem. It's not part of the waste land though...

>>9490222
that's not waste lands, dum dum.

>>9490232
>>9490238
fuck op and his fascist anonymous cronies i post what i want

>>9490227

And where do you go once you're done lamenting?

Unless Eliot just wants to lament forever like some pansy.

>>9490253
In the room the women come and go, discarding this anon-imo

(it works)

>>9490254
Well Eliot suggests redemption is possible if we re-embrace faith, tradition and love.

It's a poem though not some political treatise you autist.

>>9490269

>Well Eliot suggests redemption is possible if we re-embrace faith, tradition and love.

Reactionary.

>>9490268
IIRC the 'talking about' and 'discarding this' don't line up. But I can agree with the sentiment.
> If there were water
> And no rock
> If there were rock
> And also water
> And water
> A spring
> A pool among the rock
> If there were the sound of water only
> Not the cicada
> And dry grass singing
> But sound of water over a rock
> Where the hermit-thrush sings in the pine trees
> Drip drop drip drop drop drop drop
> But there is no water

>>9490222
>tfw u measure ur life in coffee-spoons

>>9487665
a game of chess is fuckin' baller but i think a fire sermon makes more sense to someone who doesnt exactly read too much poetry.
>O O O O that Shakespeherian Rag
amazing

Get Norton Critical Edition

>>9490285
Fine, you are right. Do you want to talk about the poem at all?

>>9490342
not an argument

>>9487665
> London Bridge is falling down falling down falling down

The Clash couldn't have put it better.

>>9490285
eliot was just a less autistic pound desu

>>9490346
always a good reminder. 4chan exists for people like you

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>>9490468
Hey, I am gonna break character because I was hoping that would invoke a loud GUFFAW from you, but it seems to have only bolstered your disenfranchisement from 4chan. I just jumped into your reply chain to false-flag, and that was not a true response.

There is hope for 4chan and quality discussion, and I hope that my pretending didn't shake your faith in this place because I AM on your side.

>>9486192
It's a excerpt from the canterbury tales translated into german anon...

>>9486162
Find a recording of Eliot reading The Waste Land. imo, it's more enjoyable to hear him reading it.

>>9490194
Are you suggesting starting with the Greeks?

>>9490838
Yes, begin AGAIN with the Greeks.

>>9490819
its too late
you killed him

>>9490325
yo thats from prufrock, not the wasteland

>>9490848
shakespeherian rag is from waste land and the other guy was talking about prufrock u silly

>>9490838
yes

>>9490828
interesting. Didn't know that.

>>9490831
The one with the different voices is good although the point at which different narrators take over is subjective.

>>9486192
The use of 5 or 6 languages and the allusions to dozens of works from all over Europe are important parts of the poem, showing the fragmented remains of Europe after WWI.
The culture was destroyed and Eliot is anthologizing some of the important pieces.