I miss old /lit/

>>9483905
the present /lit/ is now full of reddit fags. don't know where to move now.

It's your youth that you miss, not /lit/

/sffg/ was mistake

>>9483905
>misses old /lit/
>is a frogposter
You're part of the cancer

I'm thinking about pursuing a uni course in writing and literature actually worth it? If I graduate, what will my career prospects be? I would prefer not to be a teacher, or anything that has do deal with the public.

>>9483905
I didn't join early enough, but /lit/ does a need a little bloodletting.

>>9483920
I miss /fitlit/

>>9483962
Take a degree in Continental philosophy and/or Classics. Writing courses are a joke, and most literature departments blow. Classics will give you the ancient tongues to learn your grammar, so that you may write, and the greats of the ages so that you may learn to think.

i don't know if i miss old /lit/ or not, the signal to noise ratio was worse on old /lit/ but there were smarter people around, so it was a trade off...50 stirner threads, 20 threads with pics of dfw face, etc. and then two or three good threads where you can seriously discuss something...well, i guess its like that now, but now you get these reddity fags who don't know shit saying they don't like the plot of the iliad or something, man fuck those dudes, they need to go back....i guess this is what happens when you allow unchecked immigration, it dilutes and fucks up the culture your ancestors worked so hard to create

>>9483905
I miss the days when /lit/ was a haven for leftists. The board has deteriorated with the influx Christ-cucks and the alt-rightists. It's not that Christianity or right wing politics are the cause, but in general the leftists have always been better read.

Neither /li/ had threads for people who actually wrote their own shit, so I don't miss either.

>>9484068
the leftists are better read, but leftism gets so tiresome, i find it refreshing to see new view points, but yeah, some of those catholic kids have really stunted lives, they're too uptight to read like sarte in a coffee shop so they have to try to be cool by reading aquinas or something, it's like bro if ur that uptight then posing in coffee shops is not for you, go to jesus camp or something instead...also, i would like it if the rightwing kids at least read marx, marx and marxism has plenty of weak points to attack, but they don't even engage effectively. also, i hate rightwing kids who blame "jews" for everything, especially when they call people who aren't jews but are just successful capitalists jews, like david rockefeller, who was jew wise and slightly anti-semitic, which leads me to believe they are really the same kind of resentful slave moralists as the marxists but have done a s/capitalists/jews/g on all their posts...in case lit nigs arent nerdy enough the s/this/that/g is a regular expression for find and replace, but since ya'll fags claim to use latex i'm sure u knew that...

>>9484069
to me the wannabe writer threads are the worst part of /lit/

>hur durr read my wacky short story i'm submitting to a literature blog with 20 hits per month
>hey guys read my sentimental cliche ridden story about being a lonely teenager

i'm sure reddit has a community dedicated to that shit, go there

>>9483945
this

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>>9483945
>says frogposter
>calling other people cancer

>>9484068
except leftists never move on from their established canon, which is basically masturbating to foucault and making ironic ayn rand threads over and over. Additionally, besides the already establishing contemporary po-mo lit garbage, they had a sincerely disgusting lust for pseudo-erotic literature like * insert random 50's-70's feminist writer* here as well as a complete disregard of any classics pre-20th century.

with the catholics, there's a thirst to find something - not even something necessarily spiritual or even christian - in modern works, I see a lot more serious threads about authors and more obscure recommendations than before


t. /lit/ poster circa 2011-13

I started lurking in like 2013 or 2014. I think a resurgence of tripfags is in order

>>9484185
>considers foucault a leftist
>thinks catholics haven a thirst for anything but priest jizz

yeah, i suppose foucault support leftists and even stalinist communist parties in his personal life, but his books use nietzsche's genealogical method and certainly aren't marxist

this is what i mean by it's too bad the rightist posters are so poorly read

>>9484198
no thank you

do you remember when some retarded kid and his friends started to trip-shill threads for his "i was a 90's kid watching TMNT n shiet" poetry?

>>9484206
are you telling me foucault isn't the intellectual pillar of leftist academia?

>ya he supported leftists
>ya he was a stalinist
>but he wasn't a leftist brah
>but he's not a marxist, so he's not the capitalist power-slave nu-liberals are

LOL

>>9484219
did foucault ever even write anything about economics?

>>9484220
Did Foucault sell his entire ideology to the big government power complex for big drugs/big sex ideology eventually culminating into the mega-shit storm that nu-liberalism AKA power-slave capitalism is today?


YES

>>9484225
oh god go the fuck back to /pol/ you are retarded

>>9483905
I miss 100 post anon aka Norwegian Cabin guy aka Oxford Graduate aka Mommy bought 3 copies of my book about a priest in a leper colony aka could not be living more contemporaly aka world traveler aka will live a good life at your expense aka usb dangling from your keychain aka Voice of Your Generation aka pizza delivery memoir aka good will hunting-esque genius aka name calling has no effect on the contemporary NEET aka every joke he had recently heard had been told by himself, to himself, and at his own expense aka A profound man will experience more glory and emotional intensity by pouring a glass of semi-skimmed milk aka Pharoah (1999) aka had a mental breakdown and going to go live in a monastery.

>>9484228
Is that how you reconcile the fact that Foucault is the bible of leftist academics? And has been since at least the 80's?

If you have nothing but "go away!" you lose the argument.

Foucault's ideology was sold out for progressive sexual liberation, who will deny it?

>>9484235
get a load of this repressed homo getting triggered to death by foucault lol kys my man

>>9484198
I really miss those days where you couldn't reveal how much of a newfag you are without getting called out.

>>9484235
foucalt is the fucking drive shaft of lefties

>>9484241
get a load of this capitalist-liberal butt-slave pretending Foucault didn't rip the social politic out of Marxism and just gave it away with to global capitalists to make the biggest power complex that makes Brave New World look tame!

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/lit/ has gone way uphill.

Just six months ago this place was a mess, a battleground between mindless Stirnerbots and Alt-right faggots in a brutal arms race to out edge each other.
its gotten nice and harmonic again since their mutually assured destruction

>>9484089
>the leftists are better read

that reminds me, I see a lot less serious (or any) Murakami threads, which is a massive improvement. /lit/ without the leftists could actually finally organically evolve without this really new yorker style brand of mediocre international lit.

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ok which of these current top threads are ruining this board then?

>>9484264
the murakami threads were probably just viral marketing for this recent book release, it will die down until his next piece of shit needs to get pushed

>>9484256
Mutually assured destruction is a spook.

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>>9484280

>>9484209
Yes, good shit

>>9484068
>but in general the leftists have always been better read
I've never - never - met a single leftist on here who could debate their position properly. At best it's "well I don't need to explain this, just go read xy and you will change your mind".
And half the time the big reading list is just an excuse because over the span of a century, leftists have claimed everything and its opposite so you're always able to pull the old "that's not real xy though.

I'm not saying people on the right are "better-read" but at least they'll argue an actual position and stand by it instead of arguing paper trails without ever making a stand.

Sorry for being triggered by yesterday's discussion with a Marxist who insisted social ownership has nothing to do with socialism AND JUST GO READ THE SOURCES

As for the the quality of /lit/, it's gotten more practical than intellectual but that's kind of okay because if you're here for a serious intellectual discussion, you're kind of wrong anyway. Just ban Pynchon fanboys though, that stuff is getting out of hand.

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>>9484294
>didn't colour /sffg/ red


.

I miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye
Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye
I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye
The always rude Kanye, spaz in the news Kanye
I miss the sweet Kanye, chop up the beats Kanye
I gotta to say, at that time I'd like to meet Kanye
See I invented Kanye, it wasn't any Kanyes
And now I look and look around and there's so many Kanyes
I used to love Kanye, I used to love Kanye
I even had the pink Polo, I thought I was Kanye
What if Kanye made a song, about Kanye?
Called "I Miss The Old Kanye," man that'd be so Kanye
That's all it was Kanye, we still love Kanye
And I love you like Kanye loves Kanye

>>9484769
now this is lit

>>9483934
That's fair. There's plenty that makes it still worthwhile. Good days and bad days.

cug

>>9484769
>basic box structure
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAA rhyme scheme
is kanye the most /lit/ musician of all time

>>9484069
kys

>>9484098
this

>>9484053
Deep

>>9483962
>pursuing a uni course in writing and literature actually worth it?

Only if you use it to go to graduate school or law school.

>what will my career prospects be?

See above. You will not get a job off a writing and literature degree alone.

>I would prefer not to be a teacher, or anything that has do deal with the public.

What did you have in mind? Most jobs deal with the public in some regard. Why don't you try being a night security guard, or something like that?

>>9483905
How would you know? You weren't here for it.

>>9483905
/lit/ 4chan and the internet in general was never good.

>>9486791
you are right. sure /lit/ is full of right catholics now but this whole fukin website's been swamped with rightists in general for as long as i've been here...i've spent more time on /lit/ since i started reading pynchman for the pynchten memes desu

cug

>>9487007
???

2004 fag here, 4chan was either democrat/misc. leftists or just a-political trolling for the longest time until /new/ hitler trolling triggered an actual exhumation and adaptation of 4channers moving into hard-right ideology

then 4ch mods/moot sold them up the river, and then they came back from that other site with a serious political ax

the gen X'rs/SA Goons that used to post here I assume killed themselves or left to reddit, and this is where we are now

>>9484089
Is this a post-ironic masterpiece?

New /lit/'s friendlier, and isn't so hostile to Dr. William F. Buckley Jr.

>>9484044
Not OP, but I've been trying to decide on what to major in when I transfer to a university this year, and Classics looks like a great idea. Wasn't aware that that was an option before reading your post, so thanks.

cug

>>9487116
I like firing line, but he was definitely a neo-con.

He also put pressure on the Church to push Vatican II.

So my natural inclination towards him is strongly tempered with a bit of contempt desu

let's pretend that nazism is right-wing guys so we can complain about all the evil right-wingers from /pol/ who destroyed our leftist intellectual paradise
we read marxists so it means we are highly educated

>>9487145
wtf I love minecraft videos now

>>9484228
Women should be banned from /lit/

>>9487139
>Vatican II
Why was that bad?

>>9487181
WOMEN NEED HATS TO SEE GOD IT'S FUCKING OBVIOUS

>>9487145
>leftist intellectual
Come on, anon. You know that those two words don't go together.

I like how the leftists on this board blame us right-wingers for shitting things up when it's usually the leftists that turn things into a political discussion.

>>9487181
we only need one Vatican

Why are bookfags such retarded homos? Every kikelover who actually spends their time sitting down and reading some printed bullshit for hours on end should be shot in the gut and killed.

Been posting here under different trips since 2009-10. Who remembers Sunhawk?

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>>9487205

>>9484230
This is that 100 post anon again.
Newfags, there is a poster who constantly creates really elaborate schemes to mess with people by getting them to feel sympathy for his character and then slowly dissolve into autism, it usually always begins with calling himself a genius (I've noticed this pattern) he used to joke about his 6 volume memoir or this time that he paid a publisher to publish his book and he scheduled a book signing at a barnes and noble where only his mom came and bought 3 copies of the book. He does this because he's admitted he has nothing else in life and gets some sort of pleasure out of it, anyway, he had me going for a little bit until I saw him descend into cunty autism but the nail in the coffin is this quote that he always uses when people ask to see his writing in these threads (because it's pretty good but it comes from an archived post from years ago back when warosu was up, someone else found that one out, he usually takes any written material from past critique threads but almost always this one):
>"Magnus realized, with a sort of laugh, that every joke he had recently heard had been told by himself, to himself, and at his own expense."
Anyway OP, you should really find something else to occupy your time if this is all you really have.

>>9484068
this

>>9484302
I politely disagree

>>9487224
>The Atrocity Exhibition

yeah i remember that faggot, has it really been that long? well, maybe part of the reason /lit/ is less leftists is because we've all grown up, back then i had just graduated college and was still in the academic marxist bubble, a good half decade in the real world will snap you out of your leftist faggotry, not to say i'm some alt-right goof, i'm just a standard liberal capitalist

I've actually really enjoyed the particular /lit/ spin on 4chan's general rightward drift. As someone who went through a pretty hardcore college leftist/"FUCKING CONSERVATARDS" phase, the discovery of rigorous philosophy on the right-wing/traditionalist side has been enlightening and interesting.

>>9487224
That faggot still posts here and on GameFAQs.

>>9483920
basically this..

people get some weird idea of what 4chan is by seeing screencaps and then come in and try to fit in, consequently harming the board; it is very annoying!

and before one of you reddit guys come and tell me that it has always been like this: no, it hasn't always been like this, and has gotten noticeably worse in the past year. the board is awful now!

>>9487512
what are you saying comrade? unchecked immigration has consequences? unpossible.

>>9485336
why did i read that like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
instead of
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>9484068
Fuck off.

>>9484294
>any bookz mak me ror lik tyger? thank yiou

>>9487434
It's not me lol. Is this an automated response that happens anytime you post about him, you seem to do this a lot. Anyway, god bless him, by far the best poster /lit/ has ever had.

>>9484198
The 2014 tripfag bout was a recurrence of the 2009-10 plague. In those terrible years, there were some threads that had only tripfag posts. The most resilient of them was Butterfly, a namefag that dissapeared after being impersonated to death in 13'.

Also, lit/ has remained more or less the same for the last 8 years. There's a small number of intelligent people that make valuable contributions, a large number of autists that write funny posts, and the rest is shitposters/DFW-Pynchon fanboys.

The board swinged a bit to the right when pol/ became a popular board, but it quickly recovered. Christposters were the only real threat to lit/ in this decade.

I really don't see people discussing the meme trilogy anymore. Not that I was fond of them, but it was really /lit/'s thing. Things really changed desu.

>>9483905
I miss /fitlit/

new /lit/ is way better
old /lit/ was too slow and a perpetual rehash of the same tired memes (muh dostoevsky, muh rand, muh deep&edgy, muh stirner) and made of a mostly uniform (marxist) userbase. new /lit/ is way more colorful, faster and funnier. it's the lefties that are butthurt because their echochamber has been destroyed

>>9490621
Twitter is even better than 4chan as regards speed and fonny maymays, can't understand why anyone would post on this boring old message board.

>>9484228
>no arguments
>hurrr go back 2 pol

Also,coming here for the wiki and recommendations is the only worthy part. I fucking hate you. You make everything so pretentious, like that faggot who added a circa in his meme.

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>>9484068
What a coincidence I was just triggered on /mu/ by this dickhead

>>9484068
>the guy who makes the 100 best books of the year and puts the bible at number 1, a book no one reads

What is this "old /lit/" people talk about? I don't get it.

>>9490779
newfag detected

>>9483905
Yeah I miss hundreds of threads about shit books like Gravity's Rainbow or David Foster Wallace postmodern garbage

I wonder if Oytis still lurks

>>9490645
You are retarded. Go back.

>>9483905
/lit/ has always been shit. I've been lurking this board since 2009 and I can tell you there's not really much of a difference in terms of quality. I stil browse from time to time because there's occasionally a good thread with interesting discussions, but it's still pretty rare. At least I don't have to see DFW's fucking face all the time now.

you mean you miss who you were during that time period

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>>9483937
>>9484303
I know "Reading purely for entertainment is not literature" is a very dank meme around here, but assuming 4chan attempts to cater to most hobbies/interests, where the fuck else do you post these kinds of things? The only other place where this seems feasible is /tg/ but they're nothing but /pol/ in disguise, d&d editionwars and warhammer40k circlejerking.

>>9489751
>The most resilient of them was Butterfly, a namefag that dissapeared after being impersonated to death in 13'
Butters has posted consistently up until she made a dramatic exit last september, and only came back a few months ago exclusively posting in shitposting threads.

>>9492075
>last september,
I'm sure we already had a funeral or two for her by that point. How awkward.

>>9492051
I mostly hate /sffg/ because it's destroyed our delightful Gene Wolfe threads. We used to have Wolfe threads all the time, but now he's been ghettoized and it sucks.

>>9484219
>>
>>ya he supported leftists
>>ya he was a stalinist
>>but he wasn't a leftist brah
>>but he's not a marxist, so he's not the capitalist power-slave nu-liberals are
all false
LOL

>>9484156
What else would you call someone who posts frogs?

>>9484225
>inhales
MUH
>raises pitch
CULTURAL MARXISM

I hate this left-wing vs right-wing bullshit. It has always made me cringe. And I want to slap anyone who attributes someone else that exhibits behavior they don't like as something exclusively left or right. If you do this, I think you're too involved in political shit-flinging and it makes you look like a dumbass.

>>9490645
arguments are no substitute for education dummy

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>old /lit/

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>>9484068
Really REALLY made me think

honestly I can't tell the difference

unless you're talking about the invasion of politics but that doesn't just apply to /lit/ that applies to everything
not everything on the internet everything in existance

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What's with all the recent Dusty hate by the way? Wasn't like this two years.

>>9492756
There is Dusty hate?Granted I don't regular here.

>>9492759
Yeah posts calling him lite literature and just books for relationship advice or edgelords. Granted I think it's shitposting, but it still irks me.

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>>9487520
It's such a shame to so few books address this issue, in fact I couldn't name one off the top of my head.

>>9492763
>lite literature
it's totally shtiposting

>You were banned from all boards for posting >>8505048, a violation of Global Rule 10:
>Spamming/flooding.
>Now that you have seen this message, this ban is now no longer active.

>tfw there's a shitposter at your uni who uses the same library wifi

I know you're here

I don't. It's funner and easier to bait people now. There are better places than 4chan for discussion. Unless you enjoy every discussion revolving around Jews and a terrified right wing worldview.

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So, from what I have read, old /lit/ was more DFW posting, more Stirner shit and less everything else? Is that it?

Umm, can't you guys go make a subreddit or discord for your boring meme-swaps instead of trying to drag down /lit/ when it has made strives to become a more varied and interesting place? You may be missing the feeling of belonging that you used to notice, because you certainly aren't welcome in /lit/ anymore.

>>9492333
It just exists on all big boards. It's more of global-meme thing than just an epidemic on 4chan or a single board. You can't escape the insecure right-wingers and the triggered left. Read around it, I guess.

>>9484068
>leftists have always been better read
Literature is about tradition ; it is about the great works of great individuals who shine light in the night of the worlds. It is not about making the condition of inferior beings somewhat better. Literature does not exist to please the mediocre. The leftist here is in foreign territory.The Sci-Fi and Fantasy threads might be dealing with left wing literature, but they don't belong here.
Left wing literature is mediocre because mediocrity is the goal of leftism, nothing else. Left wingers are mediocre. They are extremely rarely well-read.
You consider well-read those who have a mediocre knowledge of literature, because you compare them to those who have none at all ; the fact that you consider leftists to be well-read goes to show what you understand as "well-read" and how much of an uneducated subhuman piece of shit you are.

>>9494493
BRAVO! The bigger brain wins out, once again :)

>>9494477
Get the fuck out.

Seriously, get out. You don't seem to realize how /lit/ used to be great, before beasts like you ruined it. Now the mods side with the mediocre, with the rabble, with you ; they will ban anyone telling your kind to get the fuck out. They helped make this place more like reddit ; and it just keeps getting worse, as reddit users come, and just see the garbage, the retarded shit, the dumb sci-fi, fantasy, pleb threads, and go "woah this board is actually quite like reddit but with another template," so we have to deal with them, and they start to form sort of gangs, and will side against anything rare or noble to further wallow in their mediocrity like an animal in its shit. Most of them must be fat fucks, gamers and losers.
Some of them can be reared into respectable people, but they must encounter anons with unfathomable arrogance backed up by true knowledge of the subject matter. The good ones will feel terrible about themselves, and will remake themselves. They will read the good books, they will despise their former selves, and attempt to create a new personality, bringing about their maturity.
The others are just too low-blood to make it, probably the descendants of products of incest or the sludge of some peasant caste in a past age, the kind with big foreheads and squinted faces, who hunker through the streets and yell at anyone they deem "tryhard" or "hipster," words true for some but used falsely by them against anything or anyone remotely Olympian. These must be simply embarrassed with ad hominems, doxes, literary gang rape and dunce caps until they get the fuck out for good. That's all they can understand, so we speak their language.

Since we stopped doing this like we used to, the board now lacks the atmosphere of an old e/lit/e french salon fused with the violent Greek ἀγών which it once possessed.

We don't have experts to come in and shit on newplebs, tell them to go back to reading catcher in the rye: we've let people who fap off to DFW actually have threads and not shame them out of here, and the American election has made everyone care about petty politics more than the canon, so you get effete antifa wannabees and braindead alt-right meme-spouters bickering about who is more sophisticated when neither of them read anything written prior to the nineteenth century.

If we want the board to be good we have to shit on people all the time and cultivate a culture of elitism again.

In order to achieve this, we must make the reddit users feel not welcome, and ruin their chances at an actual discussion of whatever their mediocrity brought them to enjoy. They must lose all incentive to come here. This incentive is fundamentally that they find a platform which allows to partake in such discussion. This platform must be destroyed ; we must insult, humiliate and harass them until they can no longer find any pleasure in coming here.

>>9494565
wew, thanks for the fresh pasta

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>>9494565
I too miss the days when fantasy and scifi fags were relentless bullied.
Though I also enjoy reading those and like to talk about them.
I'm guess that I'm secretly glad that modern /lit/ lets me do this.

>>9483905
I fucking hate when /his/ post that thread where Sasha Grey and philosphers are compared as it was theirs.

This split ruined /lit/. No more autistic Evola threads, no more leftist christianity threads.

It's all shit now.

>>9484302
You're part of the cancer

>>9484068
This 10000x

I have been saying this for a year.

Also, the 'Catholics' on this board are hardly Catholic, it's just their edgy internet pseud persona
>muh feudalism
>Evola amirite
>western civilization is declining we need more pope like in middle ages XDDD

Like that god awful journalist Aris Roussinos

>>9494643
see >>9494493
and kill yourself

>>9494565
>this post
did I like it?

>>9494643
>yaaaaas the leftists are so well-read!!!
>manages to display pure concentrated, no sugar added ignorance in less than 20 words

Does this really just boil down to thinning the ranks of "muh Literature" fags or thinning the ranks of /sffg/? Can't you guys just tell each other to fuck off and not take it to heart when someone says some stupid shit? How have you survived on 4chan for any amount of time with this thin of skin and without having an embolism?
Shocking desu, just a bunch of pussy book nerds who can't keep up with the 4chan discourse.

>>9494683
No, he didn't do any of that. You're wrong about this post actually.

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>>9494690
>how have you survived on 4chan for any amount of time

They haven't.

>>9494693
>>western civilization is declining we need more pope like in middle ages XDDD
Yes he did that.

>>9494704
Are you implying this sperg >>9494565 is from Reddit? I'd buy that he's from 4chan, but he's still part of this thin-skin bitch feud we're witnessing.

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>>9494719
Some of them have become somewhat adapt at hiding among us.
I think that >>9494719 got the formatting a bit wrong, which gave him away.

>>9483905
I miss you too, anon

>>9494729
Hmm, you may be right.

>>9484098
>>9485347
>waaaaaaa wannabe writer threads
There's a reason why /lit/ is in the creative section, along with origami, oekaki, artwork/critique, 3DCG, Food & Cooking, Fashion, etc. If you don't like a thread because it's not about discussing published works then ignore it.

>>9494745
That is an argument, but it isn't a compelling one. /lit/ has never been for writers. And the writing threads are often embarrassing.

>>9494756
Kill yourself newfag. I don't even participate in this threads.

>>9494775
Newfag? I am infinitely older than you, and I have been creating cultural hits for /lit/ since at least the 70s.. Don't ever come at me like this again.

>>9494784
S-sorry

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>>9494756
>>9494775
>>9494784
>>9494798

>>9492106
anon.

>>9494818
Faggot would also suffice.

>>9494841
nah, the better word IS frogposter. your abstractions about why that makes anyone "cancer" are laughable and hollow.

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>>9494847
I think that you're mistaking me for someone, faggot.

>>9494857
Then just let it be known. Don't take it personal.

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>>9494867
Just because I call you a faggot it doesn't mean that I took it personally, plonker.

>>9494879
Mmmhaha I'm sure you're right.

>>9494756
In my opinion, it's places like deviantart and reddit that aren't good for writers. I can only guess why amateur writing hasn't been submitted years ago, don't care really, because I haven't been to /lit/ long enough.
But it looks like writers, who can shoulder worthless and belligerent criticism that is thrown at them under impunity, are showing up more which is good. I showed up at a good time.

>>9494933
I agree with you. I think the writer threads are indulgent of egomaniacal teens with the desires to be a Writer rather than actually write... but that's petty to use as an excuse to shit on what are probably only healthy threads in the long-run.

Scrolling past those threads and catching a glimpse of some basement-dwellers by-the-numbers bitter poem about basement life is as cringey here as it would be anywhere, and so why not have writer threads I suppose.

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>Leave 4Chan for awhile
>Come back
>Wonder why everyone is so aggressive
>Realize it's always been like this
>Feel disappointed and disgusted
>Stay anyway

>>9495580
you can't even handle /lit/, the most beta board on this site? a majority of these submissive cucks here get off on licking feet

suk it up faggot

>>9495580
we get aggressive on the interwebs because no one can handle our high level autistic shit irl.

but deep down... we love the fact that u stay around <3

>>9487181
Catholic Church acceding to modernism/protestant-style Christianity undermined its authority as Christ's Church.

Orthodoxy - while still more or less an ethnic slavic religion/variation - still has the *authority* to many people because it has rejected attempts at change, I mean, it's in the name.

>>9495608
hello newfag

>>9494461
last time i got banned and i came back after my ban i didn't see the "your ban is no longer active" thing so someone must have been on here

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The best part of us died a long time ago.

>>9496670
this

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>>9483905
the quality of discussion here, or rather lack of, hasn't changed a single bit, the only difference being titles and topics.
threads are all boring politics this, current events that. nobody makes threads about books or poems.

>yfw when some queer mainstream rapper on the top albums chart uses that christopher walken "the lion" monologue from that hitler video for the intro to his album

lollll i bet a jew produced this shit

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What did I miss?

>>9484302
I've never - never - met a single right-winger who has spoken rationally and respectfully, instead resorting to memes, insults, and condescending remarks with zero evidence or deeper thinking. Yes, both sides have their idiots and reactionaries, but it just so happens that the right has a whole lot more of them. I wonder why?

>>9494493
>literature is about tradition
In what realm has this EVER been the case? Literature (as well as all forms of art) has been about challenging traditions and norms and moving society forward, instead of keeping it where it is.

>>9497603
i thought that "ameribane" fag from hwndu did a pretty good rightwing presentation for the camera, well by rightwing i just mean pro-america, but in these times that sounds far right lol, but irl the only time i heard a good rightwing thing was at some marxisty type protest in college and some smug young republican fag was like "it's not my fault your father wasn't successful" and i was eternally btfo and became a liberal capitalist

>>9497325
we used to talk about literature more. There were less bait threads and ayn rand threads were banned.

we used to have mods also

>>9497325
it's a murky day here in kentucky, isn't it? it was very nice a few days ago and i got ravaged by the sun for the first time in awhile

>>9497610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6zyRY4Y2X0

>>9484256
I'm not sure about six months ago but there does seem to be less philosophy/politics posts then immediately before and after /fitlit/.

>>9497633
I like it

>>9497606
It's about working with and within tradition. Except for people like Tao Lin and dumb millenial "writers", every author up to the 80s worked within the framework of tradition. You can twist it, turn it upside down, work against it, but you're still working with or within tradition. You can't just ignore it and act like it never happened, which is what young authors today are doing.
Hell, the form of Bret Easton Ellis' narration is taken straight from Flaubert.

>>9497691
It's easy to look back and talk about all the codified literature of the past as belonging to a monolithic tradition, but at the time they were breaking with tradition. One example of using an old technique in new ways does not define an entire generation of writers.

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>>9483937
>>9484303
>>9492051
>>9492083
Nice try. You are just mad that we actually read and don't meme about shit we read nothing about.

I think this "genre shit" meme came about because the few of you who actually read, ripped apart the pseuds when they pretended to be well versed on a topic. This gave you a sense of power, of accomplishment.
Now when it comes to genre fiction, you are the pseuds, you are the ones being ripped apart, and because the books we read aren't meme'd to hell and back, you have to actually read the books. On the count of no wiki and sparknotes to help you pretend as if you read.

tl;dr sffg actually reads and you guys feel shame for it.

2 things wrong with current lit:

1) right wing polfags making everything about cultural marxism or sjws or that huckster jordan peterson
2) people are no longer reading the memes

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>>9484089
>s/this/that/g is a regular expression for find and replace
No, it isn't.

It's the command syntax used by various traditional Unix tools (ed, ex/vi, sed) for doing a find-and-replace operation on a certain portion of a text buffer.

The "s" stands for "substitute". The part between the first and second slash is a regular expression by which the tool searches the text; the part between the second and third slash is the substitution for the text that was found.

The third slash is optional in some tools, but one can add additional modifiers to the command if one uses it. In this case for instance, the "g" stands for "global" which means the tool won't just replace the first occurrence of the regular expression it finds, and instead keep searching until the end of the text portion to which the command applies (typically, the current line).

>>9498034
yeah no shit no one cares you ubuntu hobbiest kys

>>9498049
>ubuntu hobbiest kys
It's GNOME on Debian, and I'm a computer scientist.

>>9498085
>I'm a computer scientist.

fuck off pseud

>>9498085
The person you're arguing against is a gnome.

>>9498096
it's some kid who installed linux on his gaming pc and now is mistaking his autism for intelligence, a common pseud mistake

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>>9498103
>>9498090
My name is under the R7RS-small's acknowledgments section.

>>9498118
bwahaha kys faggot

>>9483905
It really went to shit after the Bob Dylan thing

>>9496719
Are you posting with your eyes closed? I am able to have a very pleasant time on lit without boring political discourse (except this meta-politics stuff in this thread).

>>9497918
>2) people are no longer reading the memes
I never considered this. very sad

>>9498126
>being this jealous

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>>9498085
>I'm a computer scientist

>>9498517
1.78 63 kg (5'10" 137 lbs)
I walked 5.5km in 31 minutes last Wednesday.

>>9498537
>walked
*jogged

(Also I realize that time is untrained level. Not that you'd know.)

>>9498537
>computer scientist AND manlet
*swooning intensifies*

>>9494565
Oh I enjoyed this

>>9483905
In my opinion, /lit/ will always be plagued by ideological divides. Between the beret wearing, 5'7", high school girl fucking lib-pseuds and the frog spewing, cuck declaring, internet-alpha-wannabes, the redditors and the pollacks, the newfags and the oldfags, these divides strive to lump individuals into an us vs. them mentality.

Maybe I'm the faggot and these divides are inherent in the nature of the board and it's discussion. But at the same time, I continue to browse /lit/ because there are great discussions and great ideas in a middle ground that are presented in an apolitical way that almost always end up accomplishing a positive discussion.

The /lit/ users I appreciate are the ones who could careless about your major in university, the number of reads on your Goodreads account, your political leanings or your bullshit patrcianship, they're only here to drink way too much soda, procrastinate in their lives and talk about books that interest them. New /lit/, old /lit/, future /lit/, through all periods this board will endure, I'm just thankful there are some of you here that make the discussions on /lit/ better than most other places on the internet.

>>9487045
Old goon here, though I post less regularly than I used to.

In my mind, 4chan in general cemented its shift rightward after moot's response to gamergate spread outside of /v/ (the 'SJWs are killing 4chan!' stuff), though it had been (slowly) drifting right for a few years before that.

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>>9492333

>>9494958
This
What better place than 4chan to post writing samples?

>>9496516
I actually like how this is written

>>9498929
Yeah I like the line "struggling to find authenticity in the life of an unambitious intellectual civilian"

>>9498784
>5'7 high school girl fucking lib-psueds
Damn that hit close to home

>>9498784
>I continue to browse /lit/ because there are great discussions and great ideas
If people who make claims such as these provided examples I'd very much appreciate it.
>ones who could careless

>>9494565
This is almost like a conscious attempt to create a pasta. Even if it's the first time it was ever posted, it feels like an archetypal pasta.

I like it.

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>>9498784
Ofcoarse the divides are inherent, while we as a collective are marginally smarter than the average person we are still not above the tribalism of ideology.

It makes good conversation but easily is taken too far by the more stunted of our community who takes it seriously and start waging a shitpost war with no point other than ruining the fun.

>the number of reads on your Goodreads account, your political leanings or your bullshit patrcianship
Perhaps plebs like you would not understand what being a patrician means. /r/books is more up your alley kiddo.

>>9495661
>implying God's own Church can ever have its authority undermined
>not understanding how divine sanction works

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>>9484230
He's not gone. Did you miss this thread?

>>9499085
The last part of this post is literally what I'm referring to as the "inherent" cancer of this board. You can identify the negative aspects of the divide, but can't help yourself from indulging in it

>>9483905

I miss old 4chan

>>9483905
The only way to make /lit/ better is to get the pineman to start posting again. I'm drafting a letter right now, what address should I put on the envelope?

>>9497743
Have you ever read anything that was written before the 19th century, you beast?

>>9499153
>You can identify the negative aspects of the divide, but can't help yourself from indulging in it
Read my post again, it is all good fun until someone takes it too far.

it's going to rain all day for two days in a row what shud i buy from the store before i get stuck inside

>>9499511
I understand the necessity of poking at each other, this board would be unbearably dry without it; nonetheless, it is cancerous to real discussion

>>9483945

This.

All things change, and not always for the better. If however you wait long enough, the change will come full circle.

>>9499531
Ishiguro is made for rainy days.

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>>9494565
I just marathoned Anon's post, what did I think of it , /lit/?

>>9499531
Moby Dick

>>9487129
underage b&

>>9490567
It was garbage.

https://vimeo.com/33065509

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>>9499549
Okay well if you refuse to humour me...
Yes I was fully aware of the irony in the final part of my post.

Don't take it that there is not a right and wrong when it comes to many of the divisive topics but in my opinion no one has a perfect answer and thus leaves conversation as a means of exploring but never concluding.
I am like a little baby.

Fucking kill the jews race war now.

>>9487512
It's not hard to spot the people from reddit, though, and there's still genuinely good discussion at times.

>>9487129
Please don't do that you will regret it for the rest of your life. If you are interested in that go for a linguistics degree instead

whenever i get in a shitty mood all i can do is lay in bed and listen to humanities lectures on itunes u

>>9492556
that's new lit

>>9499868
How meta is it that we're both fucking with one another in a discussion about fucking with one another being the root of evil on this board

>>9487461
Lets just ignore this post alright

>>9484044
>bloodletting.
hmmm

couldn't we develop a little extension that allowed us to highlight these things and form a method of filtration that would become increasingly more accurate based on machine learning and properly moderated anonymous file bases that would be rated for accuracy

>>9484198
>2013

yesterday?

bitch shut the fuck up

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I've been coming here on and off since ~2009 and the essence of /lit/ has been more or less the same. Biggest change is fewer tripfags, fewer collaborative projects. I can't really quantify it but there might be a drop off in incidents of one-off great posting which is the only great complaint I had.

The catholic threads last year were actually decent tbqh

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>>9498734
>5'10"
>manlet
Wut.
Literally the perfect average. Nobody ever called me short in my life until now.

What does /lit/ have against computer scientists?

>>9483905
Its time to stop crying and move on
>i-imiss my old website mommy
>there is nowhere else to go
What about outside you fucking faggot and make something of your life.
Its summer for fucks sake and youre inside crying about an imageboard?

>>9500689
>Its summer
it was snowing the day before yesterday
also maybe instead of telling people to go outside you should stay there you fucking normie

same

>>9499132
What if wannabe monk abandoning his NEET life after shitposting via several characters on this board is just another character?

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>>9500680

>>9500680
It's fit fags spreading their lanket heightist memes across the boards.

Look at >>9501247 a difference of 7cm makes someone a midget. These guys are retarded, and the sad thing is the retarded, bottom of the rung girls of the world(Americlap) is taking it up saying they won't date anyone under 6 feet.
These girls have daddy issues and want their men to be tall and strong as if they were their daddies, and when it comes to sex, they will be much taller than her, reminding her how daddy used to come in her bed every night.

Ignore the height memes, they are just enabling mentally ill girls with daddy issues to live openly with their Stockholm syndrome. They liked when daddy diddled them as a kid, now as an adult they want to continue experiencing it.

>>9501442
DESU I don't like this whole derisive attitude towards young women who are unintelligent, lacking in self-respect, perhaps literally had an abusive childhood, etc., who then end up being exploited and at times badly abused by such men.

They're the primary victims of the whole phenomenon, so why be angry at them.

(All of the above assuming there really is such a whole phenomenon. First time I'm hearing of it, as a German.)

>>9501247
>82
>tall
the cutoff is 85
>>9501442
>heightist
>>>/t/umblr

>>9501468

If your height doesn't start with a 6, then just hang yourself.

>>9501468
Someone always posts that Twitter macro with bimbos who probably aren't even educated talking about how they want 6 feet tall men and over.

>>9500680
I'm 5'10 and had a girl who was 5'12 hit on me. She was a walking reminder why yall need burgers in americaw (hungry skeletal). She liked me because I was bulky and used to work out.

>>9487224
>lol! toasting in another epic sunhock bread! archive quick!

>>9487224
Kill yourself.

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>>9501456
>Believing some angry ranting manlet talking about sexual abuse being the root of female desire for masculine men
Come on Ahmed use your brain.

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>tfw 5'7"

>>9501562
>5'12

>>9501722

>Hitting it off with a girl on Tinder
>She wants to hook-up
>Asks my height first
>Tfw I say I'm 5'7"
>Says she's 5'10" and then unmatches me

Thanks, genetics.

>>9501746
kek

>>9501746

Kys my man.

Old thread but I just want to vent since it does bother me how /lit/ and most 4chan is infested with this shit.

I blame the creation of the donald reddit subreddits which is tied to /pol/.
My problem is not the stance they take, their ideologies, or whatever. This is not about that.
It's simply the influx of new users, 4chan did see a growth in users since last year, beyond the common inflation the site usually had.
I also don't blame only new users but old users who felt rejuvenated through /pol/ style shitposting and new culture.

Remember when /v/ had their freakout over the feminists and problems with gaming journalism? Thanks to that shit being tied strongly with the respective subreddits, we had an influx of new users and a new culture of blaming this new evil thing in every discussion about anything.
Thanks to that shit, we began to have dumbasses trying to change the flow of every discussion towards their petty problems. Instead of having people troll here about DFW or whatever, we got people desperately looking for dumb shit to blame on sjws or whatever their jews are.
Mixed with that, last year happened, so now we got all these new users or brainwashed (into adopting this new culture) old users. The sjw boogieman be it real or not is now amplified in discussions and add to that shit like the typical american bipartisan/binary kind of thinking about every subject.
So now we have people making serious threads about rupi kaur or whatever and taking it very seriously. Before it would be something like "holy shit she sucks balls" and we would move to another "DFW is a meme" or "Pynchon posts on 4chan" thread. Instead, now we have stuff like "destruction of the western white canon", "winning" arguments, "redpill me on", "feed me more nazi fanfiction", etc.
Less and less users have read at least one book from the meme trio, less users are college age or older, less users have at least undergrad levels, etc.

>>9502386

How come nobody knows how to write anymore? Look at this asshole and how he has a line break after every God damn sentence. Is this Common core? Is this something that kids are being taught to do now?

>>9501746
lmao fucking wrecked

>>9502452
I'm neither american nor have been through that shit, sorry you guys have that awful method. Line break is common courtesy, or at least it was in 4chan because of how the page is displayed, it's usually more comfortable (for those without appchan/xchan or whatever) to have short sentences so as to keep the shit more compact.
It could also be
just a stylistic
choice.

>>9502483
>It could also be
>just a stylistic
>choice.

Yeah you're a regular Cormac McCarthy. Go fuck yourself and your shit grammar.

>>9502496
That was just banter, no need to take it so seriously, faggot.