I loved the first season of this show, but the plagiarism or I guess borderline plagiarism really put a dent in it for me. I wish the creator could have just credited the influence of Thomas Ligotti by showing his books sitting around with the Rust character or something, and just had him mention him FUCKING ONCE. I mean, really?
>>9453704
Those ideas aren't created by Ligotti.
>>9453939
no but a lot of Rust's ideas are, I didn't say all of them, most of the philosophical pessimism is Ligotti's, just reworded
>>9453704
All circles are two dimensional.
>>9453961
Philosophical pessimism has been going around for centuries.
>>9453986
But the way that Rust words things is pretty much taken straight out of Ligotti's language and style
just look into it I'm too lazy to explain it all here
If you cannot see that Pizzolatto was ironizing Rust and his dilettante pessimism then you are a fucking idiot. You don't have to credit ideas you are satirizing, no matter how straight your face is as you do it.
this show seems bad now in retrospect after the horrible second season
>>9454234
time is a pita bread
>>9454240
>If you cannot see that Pizzolatto was ironizing Rust and his dilettante pessimism
He wasn't doing that at all. The entire show is about how easy it is to sympathize with that worldview.
It's not a coincidence that Rust's overzealous pessimism only exists while the case they are on involving ritual child rape and murder is ongoing, only to have Rust's pessimism destroyed the moment the case ends with a convenient vision of his own child while he's in coma.
>>9454234
You're wrong. Just look into it, I'm too lazy to explain it all here.
This is fun.
>>9453974
t. Great scholar of Flatland
>>9453704
Why doesn't he just say time is a circle? If it wasn't a flat circle it would be a sphere.
>>9454645
Ligotti credits them, and makes it clear that he is quoting. True Detective takes Ligotti's exact wording and uses it without credit.
>>9454663
it could be a cylinder, dude
>>9453704
You also didn't pay attention. You can see some occulty books in Rust's apartment in one episode. I.e. The King in Yellow, a couple Lovecraft's and Ligotti's. Go back and find it. I think it's episode 6
>>9455088
Why would Ligotti care if someone stole his ideas now he finally gets to not exist any more
>>9455088
this
also Ligotti never plagiarized anyone (he's far too original a thinker and writer) and still credited his ideas
>>9454243
Why?
>>9453704
Pizzolero mentioned his sources in interviews, famalam.
>>9454470
>It's not a coincidence that Rust's overzealous pessimism only exists while the case they are on involving ritual child rape and murder is ongoing, only to have Rust's pessimism destroyed the moment the case ends with a convenient vision of his own child while he's in coma.
But the broader problem (the pervasive influence of apparent child sexual abuse and ritual murder across powerful people) was never solved. Rust and Marty only got rid of a few minor players. If only closing his part of the case was all it took to change Rust's views, isn't he just deluding himself more?
>>9454663
time is an infinite sphere in which every point is its exact center and from all points its circumference is inaccessible
>>9454470
Rust's pessimism is a reaction to the collapse of his earlier life, and specifically the senseless death of his daughter. He isn't actually committed to its principles, however, which Marty helpfully points out for us again and again and again. It's also apparent in the intensity he applies himself to his cases, especially those involving children.
https://youtu.be/_RfUj09pWfM
>you sound panicked
>>9456113
>he's far too original a thinker and writer
'No'.
>>9454243
but that's like retroactively hating To Kill a Mockingbird solely because of Go Set a WatchmanNo, I'm not well-read enough to come up with a better analogy.
>>9457605
You clearly haven't read him then.
>>9457599
damn, that might be the best scene in the show
>>9457746
lol ok
>lift ideas from classic weird fiction authors like robert w. chambers, karl edward wagner, thomas ligotti, etc
>end up saying in an interview he doesn't like weird fiction at all and is surprised people are actually buying "the king in yellow" because of his series (it rose to the 1 best seller at amazon for at least a month while the series was on air), telling people to not waste their time and instead read faulkner or his own novel
pizza a shit
>>9453704
How did such a fundamental misunderstanding of Nietzsche get past the writing room?
also the last scene. yeah, dark vs light is the oldest theme in the book, but the scene was almost word-by-word lifted from an alan moore comic
>>9457726
She is so incredibly hot that it's not even funny.
>>9457859
>>9457856
> meanwhile, proof life is worth living