Suffering

>I joined a frat bc gang violence is scary

>>9420367
if you have something worth fighting for, you are ready to suffer.

>>9420386
Maybe the key is to find meaning in the suffering. Meaningless suffering is painful, meaningful suffering is priceless.

>>9420389
i mean if you're already suffering and don't know what the meaning is in it, you have goofed.

it's like sitting on a hot stove and, like, trying to invent air conditioning

try doing something else

>>9420395
What about suffering that you can't control? Like living through a famine. Or forced labour in a gulag. One cannot just "try doing something else".

This argument is so retarded that it actually causes people to flip the other way.

>>9420411
Well, go on and explain yourself. I don't know if what I am saying is just drunk ramblings, or if there's a point to any of this. Tell me why you disagree.

>>9420420
It's hedonism, a philosophy that has been laughed at for thousands of years.

The mind suffers because it cannot make sense of the world. If the world were different, in a way that is "better" at accommodating humans, the humans would eventually see the arbitrary seams where the world was stitched together in order to better serve them, and the inability to understand these seams would once against bring about suffering.

The world could be different, but it could never be different "for" us.

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Pleasure is the lifeblood of (Western) consumer capitalism. Happiness is both pleasure and suffering experienced meaningfully. Meaningless pleasure is as unpleasant as suffering

the difficulty (and moral imperative) of today is to not enjoy yourself

>>9420466
That's fucking stupid.