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Stack thread R8, h8, appreci8, negoti8.

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R8, h8, appreci8, negoti8.
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Are we supposed to be impressed?
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>>9417990
Well. Yes.
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>>9417900
Babby is not impressed
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>>9417990
He probably just started reading, or wants to catch up with some classic works discussed here. Cut him some slack.

Anyway, here's mine.
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>>9417900

Honestly? You just shouldn't have fucked around and got too carried away and got yourself caught up in something that you weren't ready for.

Now look, we both look like jackasses. No amount of diverting blame changes the fact that you actually, legitimately tricked me into the situation. I did not intend it.

All in all, those books just add up to one big joke to me.
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>>9417900
strong stack. It looks like you're building the foundations of a strong library. Just don't get too carried away with what lit tells you to read, not that I'm necessarily accusing you of that
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>>9418027
Why is it bad to read what lit tells you to read?
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>>9418016
they're good books lol, stop being such an autistic snowflake
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>>9418038
This.
>le such bad books xD
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>>9417900
>pynchon
>joyce

HE FELL FOR THE MEMES!!!@ HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAS
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>>9418047
It's fine as long as he reads them ironically
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>>9418031
You develop a blind and "unauthentic" taste. In itself it's not bad to read recommendations from here, since Anons sometimes give some good recs that are not "mainstream". But if you only read things people recommend here, you will let others directly dictate what you should and shouldn't read, and will be caged to the taste of only one place.
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Are stacks supposed to be all your books? Or the ones you recently bought? Or the ones you will read? Or the ones you have read?
Or are they just stacks of books you want to show lit you have?
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weekend haul, about $20 total
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>>9418068
>buying one big volume instead of the books separately
You've made some big errors, anon. That book doesn't even look comfortable to hold.
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>>9418086
>translaciones
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>>9418093
I know, but it costed about 15 dollars. I do have Ulysses and Dubliners separately (7 and 10 bucks each). I'm a poor anon and second hand lit in english is hard to find here.
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What are you supposed to post here? The books that you plan to read in the near future or the books that you own?
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>>9418090
Fun fact I once fapped to the cover of that edition of The Red and the Black. It was alright I'd say, 6/10. That's the rating I would give to the fap, the book itself is a 7/10
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>>9418031
You have to build and structure your own taste, your own culture, your own path, not eating memes all day. Unless you're a 4chan memeboy, which I suspect you are.
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>>9418095
I can only speak Spanish, English and very sad German. But Great Expectations and the Poe collection were gifts, although I did buy the Poe's Cortazar translations, I've read the originals though.

Traducciones*
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>>9418084
All of that, Anon.
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>>9418128
Sounds fucking gay and retarded anon. Will surely participate when my books arrive.
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OP here. Ive been kinda following lits books for a while. This isnt my first memestack. I read V. And I loved it and Im preping myself to read the meme trilogy. I try to maintain an equilibrium of lit memes and "my" literature. On the side Im reading Clarin, Becquer, Camilo Jose Cela and some Sci-Fi like Solaris, Hard to be a God and Vonegut.
Post yfw youll never have such a good trail of books as me.
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>>9418114
>Unless you're a 4chan memeboy, which I suspect you are.
>le wild accusation xD
Kys famalam
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>>9418163
It's really nothing special.
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>>9418163
>On the side Im reading Clarin, Becquer, Camilo Jose Cela and some Sci-Fi like Solaris, Hard to be a God and Vonegut

It's sad that you think that this is impressive desu.
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>>9417900
>Gatsby
That book can eat my whole entire ass.

>>9418047
>>9418058
Dubliners has some spicy ass jawns. What are you talkin about? I mean some of the stories are ass.

>>9418068
>>9418074
THIS is too much Joyce, my guy. He's not THAT good.
also [HOT TAKE]: The Sun Also Rises is better than Farewell to Arms.
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>>9418292
It's a meme. We know Pynchon and Joyce are good, but we pretend that they're not by ironically pretending they are
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>>9418297
>memed again
I'm a dip, sorry. I'm still gonna stand by my statement that the anon above has too much Joyce.
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I'm pretty late to thread, but this is my "To read list"
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>>9418343
I've never been so conflicted by one of these in my life. This stack is 50% patrician and 50% pure garbage. Well done.
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>>9417900
I like the Wordsworth, senpai. Stupidly ignored by the environing uncouthoisie. Every book in your r8s high by me. Have fun.
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Goodwill has been good to me the past two weeks.
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>>9418292
Why it's only four books. I got the complete novels because it was cheap.
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>>9419212
What a fucking steal. What goodwill had all of that??
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>>9419212
this is like my haul.

Goodwill is a treasure chest. Thank god.. I once bought 50 books from there for 30 dollars, including a 1st edition Mason Dixon.
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>>9419378
It was 6 or 7 different Goodwills near me and two separate weekends. We make a day out of it and cross off fuck load of books we're looking for each time. This was about 35 dollars all together.
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>>9419386
Nice. I found a signed first edition Chabon (I don't even particularly like him, but it was a nice surprise) and a first edition Vineland as well. I never go to big box bookstores. If there's a book I can't find, it's probably only available online (McElroy, Gass, Gaddis, etc.) anyway, so fucking B&N and their shitty selection.
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>>9419212

How much did this cost anon?
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>>9418343
where u live bro????
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>>9419411

Sorry didn't see
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>>9417900
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Bought this large stack of memes from the used bookstore/library sale/I got Gravity's Rainbow in a thrinft store. Thanks for the /lit/erary enligjtenment laddies!
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>>9419212
Fuck you Anon, I want those.
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stack of shit coming through
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>>9419628
I'll trade all of them for a hardcover copy of Gravity's Rainbow. Just saying...
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Posted this last thread just before it died. Have a few more still coming in the mail.
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>>9419683

>Tfw I'm waitinf for 7 books
>No delivery during weekends
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>>9419555

>First They Killed My Father
>A story about how a devout Catholic family murders their son and brother because his own son was strong willed enough to not want to kill himself, despite the family's best efforts.

Sound like a great read senpai.
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>>9419733
>tfw usps admitted they lost my signed Vollmann in transit
>tfw still check every day just in case
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>>9419733
I'm only waiting on 4 myself. Although its in 2 different shipments and one of them doesn't have tracking so I'm going to be neurotic about it until it comes.
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All of the books that I have brought in the last month, does /lit/ approve of my purchases?
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>>9418994
Ive actually finished Wordsworth. Reading it near a river or lake adds a lot to it. The one about the dog that stood with his dead owner gave me goosebumps. Also I cry bc Ill never have such a strong love/pain for a woman as Wordsworth had.
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Just got back from the Book Man. I'm very happy with my haul. Can I get some ratings my dudes?
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>>9418757
take a better picture you fucking asshole
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>>9420037

I only have a low quality webcam, sorry lad
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>>9420039
oh sorry, i didn't know
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>>9418757
Cheers on the MacDonalds.
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>>9420044

Thanks
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>>9418136
>The Go-Between
My fucking guy, I'm reading that at the moment.
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>>9419212
You won't crack open even a quarter of those. There's not a person on this pseud board who would.
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>>9419736
na its about polpot and Khmer Rouge
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>>9418056
Very interesting. Have you read them?
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>>9420115
You're projecting. I'll have the majority of these done by next year. Already read two of them (The Book Thief, which was shit, and The Stranger, which is perhaps ranked too highly by those who have maybe three other books other than it, like you) and I'll likely pick up the Mann after I finish Women and Men, which is taking me longer that I thought it would.
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>>9418090
If you liked Nietzsche, then you should read Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, and then Doetoevsky.

>>9418343
I have the same Hobbit and LOTR. Never read them as a child. Pleasantly surprised as an adult, but I think I would have enjoyed them more as a child. The LOTR books felt like more of a meta-story than a story. I believe that was his intention.

>>9419650
Mirin
>>9419969
Don't know about the others, but if you are interested in the last book, then Evola's The Hermetic Tradition is for you.
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>tfw only one used book store in town
>it has shit selection

im actually OK with buying new books. it just makes me more careful of what i buy.
still, my wallet hurts.
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>>9420134
"You're projecting." Stock answer from a pseud. Typical..
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>>9420164
The price of new books actually helps me pace myself a bit. With used books I end up with a (puchased) backlog that gets way out of hand.
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>>9419212
i am legend is the most patrician book in that stack
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>>9420169
>pseudo-intellectual calls others pseuds
You're a bit of a hypocrite, and I'd go so far as to call you a cunt.
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>>9420169
How about you he helpful and tell me which to read first, cunt? Pretend for a second that I'm someone who might at one point decide to actually pick a fucking book up, and help me through my indecisive anxiety, instead of assuming nobody on here but you (I hope) reads.
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>>9420210
Cool, thanks. I'll move that up my list, then.
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>>9419969
Pic related, these are all the books I've bought in the last month or so.

I think I may have a bit of a problem...
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>>9420258

And now we have come full circle to Masonic topics. Wew lad, really gettin that old noggin a joggin
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>>9418110
can you not?
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>>9419212
what's between the human stain and A Confederacy of Dunces? Which book will do you want to read first? Which book are you are you most uncertain about?
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>>9420093
How is it? I had never heard of it before, but the premise interested me and I trust nyrb.
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>>9419420
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>>9418110

Wow I've never fapped to a book cover before, you must have been really hard up. I have masturbated to the slipcase of Age of Mythology, and one of the menu screens of Warcraft 3, but I was only thirteen or so.
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>>9418885
I'm pretty sure I know which is which, but go ahead and list what you think is Patrician and Garbage for me if you can anon
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>>9418005
La coleccion de Catedra de atras es bastante mas llamativo que lo del frente
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>>9418110
i was on holiday when i was like 14 and really horny and the only material i had to fap over was the cover of a Jo Nesbo book i was reading at the time. so i know this feel
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i dont get these threads.. are these books you have in your backlog or are they books you've recently read?
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>>9420951
Both. Although people tend to post backlogs a lot more frequently.
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>>9420724
Shit, I didn't notice that. It's Heart of Darkness. In probably going to read The Magic Mountain first, and there's a few books on there I'm not certain of. Mostly The Brothers K, Kafka on the Shore, and The Goldfinch.
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>>9419212
big fan of The Sellout
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>>9420951
These threads are just for stacks of books. As long as they're stacked up it's all good. Probably more common to post backlogs or travel packs since there is usually a recent purchases thread around too.
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>>9418343
Was gonna reply KYS for the swoly bible but then I saw the year of Living Biblically
Read that first anon.
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>>9418005
Maricona.
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>>9420941
Not really senpai

>>9422340
tu jefa
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>>9417900
just got these today

howd I do?
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Im not liking the first one desu (I, Robot). Will start Moby Dick when I finish Sagarana.
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>>9417900
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>>9422527
I'll trade you something for the post-it note I and the GR on the top.
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>>9422546
Post-it note Infinite Jest, I meant.
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>>9417900
>>9422527
>>9422379
but how long will it take to defeat the stack?
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>>9422560

Out of that stack I've read two Infinite Jests (The highest two)
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>>9422589
how long, you dingbat
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>>9422630

???
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>>9422560
probably a year
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>>9422643
idiot
>>9422660
smart
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>>9422560
I've read 10k pages this year, you do the math.
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>>9420129
Read a guide to the good life recently. I liked it desu.
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>>9422827
>>9422789
>>9422527
>>9422379

Yeah, open your ears, kid! We want you to quit so your life can be worse!

Fucking seriously, take it up with Jon then? Go on and explain it for him. Hell, explain it for anyone! Should be fun.
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>>9419895
>not reading Plato in ancient greek
>not reading Hegel in german

Its like you haven't even studied the classics
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Not my collection but I share a room with the dude.
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>>9423511
how big is his wang?
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>>9423529
Who kno. the paintings are mine though.
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>>9423246

This list made me think of an excerpt from my latest short story. The MC is engaging in dialogue with his family, who had offered him up for social mobility. He was betrayed for money. The MC is making his case, as the family, finally able to taste the consequence of their actions, listens on in silence.

"This is mind boggling. Seriously. You have been intertwined in your own web of lies, and now you sit there trapped like a fly. So you make threat you know you will NEVER follow through on."

"I don't mind being a modern day Sisyphus. This isn't a fantasy, I won't be rolling that rock uphill for all of eternity. Nope, eventually it is going to come crashing back down and take some heads with it. I'm actually pretty sure it already did."

"I almost feel bad, did you know that? I advocated for peace this entire time and its come to this. But then I realize the absolute moral depravity of the architects of this charade. You went in with intent to destroy. You wanted me dead. You actually wanted to be an accessory to a death of a human being. If you don't understand the dire ramifications of that, I feel bad for you. Yet I offered forgiveness. What do you return? Insults. Clearly you never intend to make peace."
"At this point I feel as if I'm just figuratively repeatedly bashing your face into your monumental catastrophe every single day and I almost feel bad. Almost. You know why I don't though?"

"I'll tell you. You deceive a hardworking man. He has suffered much and provided much. I'm not talking about myself. You know who I speak of. He does not deserve this, and sooner or later you will need him. God is closer to him throughout all of this, despite his shortcomings, because he is unaware of the intrigue at play. I do not pity you conniving people. I am still open to the idea of peace, but I think your commitments now bind you. Look and see what you have done."

And that's it. I dunno, your stack made me think of that passage.
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>>9424247

Hmm. Not bad, anon. Your prose is a bit simplistic in places and seems broken up -- but I'm kind of getting the vibe that that's something you can easily fix-- also you have alright vocabulary. What is he lecturing them on, I mean specifically, why did they betray him for money?
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>>9424302

Well its a really complicated plot for a short story. The story is essentially about a major transition in the life of the MC. He has unfortunately and unwittingly been made a fool, by his close family, because it suited their agenda of social upward movement, or of maintaining reputation. They try and rationalize him as being a inherently bad person, when they know he is not. It is a underpinning of cognitive dissonance: the struggle between wealth and security and doing the right thing.
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>>9424336

I wont say it isn't a definitive trope, but its at least able to be made interesting, that is, the struggle between wealth and security and doing the right thing. I also noticed something else though. You describe the monologue as

>"the MC making his case, as the family, finally able to take the consequences of their actions, listens on in silence."

I like the wording of this, but what exactly are the consequences of their actions?
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>>9424364

That has to do a lot with the plot. There was a "behind closed doors" agreement, so to speak, to oust the MC from his family. The MC is conflicted to the exact reason; it seems that not only has he been ousted, but his immediate family has been torn apart. It seems beneficial to no one but the rest of his extended family.
The "consequences" of their actions refers to a point where the MC hasn't quite unveiled their charade, but he's shaken it. He's chipping away at the ruse, and it clearly won't hold much longer. The family knows this, they feel it, and the fact that they made this "deal" so to speak, and are having it used against them, is destroying their reputation, which they ironically sacrificed the MC to maintain in the first place.

Its an ironic tragedy.
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>>9424431

This actually sounds like a good premise. You should put a few excerpts up in a critique thread sometime.
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>>9424505

I actually think I might man, thanks. Although I have little experience in writing and I constantly re-read and edit my work. It sucks, because you can't just edit a post on this board.
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>>9424247
>>9424336
>>9424431

damn man this is an interesting plot desu
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>>9424826

>all that Hegel and Kant

Have you actually read those?
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>>9424875
No, I'm finishing up Kant's third Critique, then religion within the bounds of reason, and then starting on Fichte.
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>>9424890

I'm a bit jelly desu. For philosophy, I did the start with the Greeks meme without knowing it was a meme. I just picked up a copy of Meditations and couldn't stop. Now I feel obligated to work my way through the tiers of philosophical advancement. I know Kant did a lot for his field, and I appreciate Hegel's view of philosophy in general. Just haven't read them yet.
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>>9424904
I don't think it's a meme desu. I started with the greeks aswell. The truth is that Plato is easy and enjoyable, and then Aristotle lays the foundation for the entire field of philosophy that follows him.

"Logic has not gained much in content since Aristotle and indeed it cannot, due to its nature. Aristotle had ommited no moment of the understanding; we are herein only more exact, methodical, and orderly. " - Immanuel Kant (Jasche logic lectures)

It isn't just an obligation. Working through the tiers is the only way forward, in my opinion. I did skip the majority of the scholastics though. Where are you at right now? If you're done with the greeks and just going through romans - neo platonism or something - just finish what you're reading and skip up to Descartes. From there read in order.
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>>9424927

Oh man. Ive read a lot of the Greeks.

>what was left of chrysippus
>what was left of diogenes
>last days of socrates
>republic
>nicomachean ethics
>musonius rufus lectures
>meditations
>on the good life
>epictetus discourses, handbook, fragments
>senecas dialogues and essays

I think I may have gone a bit overboard. Is there anything I'm missing or am I ready to move on?
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>>9424949
Why are you glueing all your books to the top of your bookshelf?
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>>9424942
Several of those are not greeks. At any rate you should read the symposium at least. It's been too long since I've read Plato and I don't feel like looking up the dialogue names but you are certainly missing important ones. But whatever, honestly, you can go back and finsh Plato and Aristotle later. It might even be more rewarding reading them later.

It isn't that much that is absolutely required between Descartes and Kant. Here's a quick list:

1. Descartes (Meditations, discourse on method)
2. Hobbes (Leviathan- read only from chap 11 to the end.)
3. Spinoza (Ethics, EOI)
4. Locke (the Essay- read the abridged obv)
5. Leibniz (Monadology, New Essay Concerning Human Understanding)
6. Berkely (Principles. This sucks but his cause/effect as signs is important for Hume. Optional but it's short)
7. Hume (Enquiry, Principles of Morals)

And then you can follow the guide I posted above for Kant.
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>>9419212
So jelly
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>>9424904
>I did the start with the Greeks meme
>I just picked up a copy of Meditations and couldn't stop.

lmao you skipped a couple thousand pages of the actual Greeks

>>9424942
>Is there anything I'm missing or am I ready to move on?
I don't understand this. You read four (very good) dialogues of Plato, and his most famous work. Did they do nothing for you? Were they just something to check off a list? Did they not interest you whatsoever? Because if they did, you have a lot more Plato you can (and probably should) still read. And if they didn't then why are you doing this at all? You're getting just barely more than a wiki level understanding of these guys. You don't have enough Plato to easily move to Aristotle, and even if you did, you won't understand Aristotle by reading just one treatise. The foundation laid by the Greeks is a very broad one, and reading the NE won't give you the toolbox you're probably hoping to get for Aquinas or Spinoza or whomever. That toolbox is picked up slowly and surely by picking apart the greats bit by bit, not glancing at them.

I unironically think you would be better off reading something like the relevant sections of Copleston's history of philosophy. If you pick just a few texts to read from Plato et al., you're missing huge chunks of what they have to say. Nobody's saying you have to read them cover to cover, but if you're reading them to be ready to "move on" then you'd be better off with a secondary source that HAS read them cover to cover, and can dilute them and present to you their most important pieces, or at least introduce those pieces to you.

If you like the Greeks, read more Greeks.
If you read the Greeks to "be ready" for later stuff, read more Greeks or (and?) read some commentaries and summaries.
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>>9424958

I intend to read symposium. I know I'm missing important ones which is why I'm hesitant to move on. But if you're saying they're more rewarding to read later on, why not?

Also, thank for the suggestions. How do you feel about Hobbes' philosophy btw? Its almost stark contrast to some Greek works. Also you recommended starting at chap 11, which I wonder why. Otherwise that is a solid list and I will definitely read them.

>>9424967

Well, meditations opened me to philosophy originally, I went back and read actual Greeks.

I do really enjoy Plato, and I would be willing to read more of his works to move on to Aristotle. I actually was hoping to try a hand at Aquinas based of the NE, but based on your rec I need more. I understand that a lot of these books need multiple reads to actually absorb them.
Also, to your point about history of philosophy, I'd actually rather read the full works. Its more authentic to me and I wouldn't feel right discussing works I had read about summarized.

Thanks for the quick and concise answers guys.
Any recs for more Plato/Aristotle? Also, please tell me you don't think the Romans I read are garbage.
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>>9420129
I can see a Towers of Midnight in the background, I actually wish there were more books in the WoT saga
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>>9424995
> I know I'm missing important ones which is why I'm hesitant to move on. But if you're saying they're more rewarding to read later on, why not?

This might not be that anon's point, but I would argue that they're rewarding to REread later on. They're interesting on their own, but especially with how comparatively easy Plato is to read a lot of the time, many of his ideas seem "obvious" at first, and it's only when you approach them again in later philosophers that you realize how big of a deal they were. Read them now, read them again later. You have your whole life.

>I actually was hoping to try a hand at Aquinas based of the NE, but based on your rec I need more. I understand that a lot of these books need multiple reads to actually absorb them.

Things get hairy after Plato; Aristotle throws tons of very specific terms at you which are hard to wrangle with at first, but doubly so if you're seeing them for the first time in the context of something by Aquinas or whomever. The Categories is like 20 pages and will knock you on your ass; Spinoza's Ethics, drawing heavily on Aristotelian terminology, will probably also knock you on your ass even if you know that terminology already; but frankly I don't even know how anyone would try learning the terminology while they read Spinoza (or Aquinas or whomever who assumes you already know the terms and concepts).

If you want to transition more easily from Aristotle to Aquinas, read some of Aquinas' commentaries on Aristotle. They're the most thorough secondary sources I've read on Aristotle, literally going paragraph by paragraph alongside the original text. The one for Politics is published by Hackett; all the other published translations that I've found (interpretatione, posterior analytics, physics, metaphysics, NE) are by Dumb Ox Books. Check out the one on NE since you've already read that. Would definitely recommend re-reading NE section by section with Aq's commentary in hand, rather than simply re-reading the NE on its own; it helps to get a slightly different angle or rewording.

>I'd actually rather read the full works

Very noble, but prepare to hunker down. If you're going to read them all anyway, read them in order. Otherwise things will pass by you that you don't even realize are being addressed.

>Any recs for more Plato/Aristotle?

Literally read Plato cover to cover. Annotate your book. Jot down notes in a separate notebook. Read secondary sources as well (I can rec some if you want, this comment is too long to do so here). Aristotle is tougher to declare what you should read of him because he's (1) harder, (2) less "readable," (3) it will depend on how much you want to commit. Hundreds of pages on animals and meteorology are not wholly without merit; but do you really want to read them? Up to you. I've only recently started Aristotle and I think it's tough and dry but rewarding.

>please tell me you don't think the Romans I read are garbage.
Never read them but I love Rome
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>>9417900
pls consider suicide my frand
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>>9425035


>This might not be that anon's point, but I would argue that they're rewarding to REread later on. They're interesting on their own, but especially with how comparatively easy Plato is to read a lot of the time, many of his ideas seem "obvious" at first, and it's only when you approach them again in later philosophers that you realize how big of a deal they were. Read them now, read them again later. You have your whole life.

Based on this, I'll just read them first, then after.

>Things get hairy after Plato; Aristotle throws tons of very specific terms at you which are hard to wrangle with at first, but doubly so if you're seeing them for the first time in the context of something by Aquinas or whomever. The Categories is like 20 pages and will knock you on your ass; Spinoza's Ethics, drawing heavily on Aristotelian terminology, will probably also knock you on your ass even if you know that terminology already; but frankly I don't even know how anyone would try learning the terminology while they read Spinoza (or Aquinas or whomever who assumes you already know the terms and concepts).

Ok, fair enough, now while I thought Plato was an easier but engaging read; I don't have much else to compare it to. NE was certainly much different, truly an odd way to just dive into that work in the manner I did. That said, for the likes of Aquinas and Spinoza I am completely prepared to slog though and read, re-read, and read once more all things interesting philosophy.
To your point of reading NE over again hand in hand with Aquinas, that's actually very insightful, I had no idea he had such thorough commentaries.

>Very noble, but prepare to hunker down. If you're going to read them all anyway, read them in order. Otherwise things will pass by you that you don't even realize are being addressed.

I have so much time to read its absurd. I am in a constant state of hunkered down.

>Literally read Plato cover to cover. Annotate your book. Jot down notes in a separate notebook. Read secondary sources as well (I can rec some if you want, this comment is too long to do so here). Aristotle is tougher to declare what you should read of him because he's (1) harder, (2) less "readable," (3) it will depend on how much you want to commit. Hundreds of pages on animals and meteorology are not wholly without merit; but do you really want to read them? Up to you. I've only recently started Aristotle and I think it's tough and dry but rewarding.

Its that intense, requiring notes? There couldn't just be concepts that I would revisit? I dunno, I'd almost prefer to just get the "center" of the work, unless animals and meteorology are intrinsic to Aristotle's philosophy, no, I don't really want to read about them all too much. Unless its interesting. It depends.

>Never read them but I love Rome

Its too bad, I would ask about so and so from Rome to reference against some of these other philosophers.
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>>9425087
>I have so much time to read its absurd. I am in a constant state of hunkered down.

Then go nuts. I went NEET after finishing college almost 2 years ago and am still chipping away at the Greeks. Have read more than almost anyone I've seen post on lit (at least based on shelf threads) and there's still plenty to be done.

>Its that intense, requiring notes? There couldn't just be concepts that I would revisit?

For Plato I would say notes are almost totally necessary because the ideas are couched in stories, characters, etc. It's like reading a novel where you have to dig up "the idea." As for Aristotle I read the whole organon without feeling the need to take notes; it's just too dense and is much more like what you mentioned, where there are key concepts you can revisit (as long as you know where they are). I started some brief notes on my re-read of Physics today, but I think they're going to be very broad strokes, and focus on crucial concepts/terms rather than trying to maintain any sort of narrative acting as synopsis of the original text.

From what I've read in the commentaries I've gone through on the organon, the minor aristotelian works are significant but not crucial. Meteorology/on the heavens/on the soul are apparently sort of subsections the Physics, and (at least part of) the biological works are (a) exercises in some of the logical methods outlined in the organon, e.g., proper classification of sense objects, and (b) further exploration of his physical theories as they apply to the sensible world, e.g., explaining sense objects through each of the four causes he offers in the Physics.

When I started aristotle that sounded pretty lame and I wanted none of it, but now I'm kind of looking forward to at least trying it. Definitely think it's more important to read all of Plato than all of Aristotle.

>Its too bad, I would ask about so and so from Rome to reference against some of these other philosophers.

Yeah I haven't reached the Roman philosophers. Read some poetry and a ton of history (both roman and roman-era-greek) but haven't even tapped into Cicero, Seneca, etc. Want to finish Aristotle first :^)

PS If you buy a single commentary on Plato, make it the continuum companion (sometimes called bloomsbury companion? should be the $40 one). 300 pages total, full of 0.5-2 page essays on Plato the man, his background, a brief comment on each of his dialogues, along with their most significant features and his methods of writing and philosophizing. Very varied, very modern book, great starting point for finding further commentaries. Also read Copleston's section on Plato, and consider the cambridge companions to plato and plato's republic. And AE taylor's "plato the man and his work" is the only full book length treatment of every dialogue one by one.
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Not exactly a stack but I got these two yesterday.
The left is Water Margin and the right is Book of Mencius.
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>>9417900
Are you a second year English literacy student in France?
I'll swear that I either read those books, studied them or want to read them
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>>9425487
Is that Hungarian?
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>>9425689
Yes,why?
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>Son, your mother accidentally opened a package that arrived for you, she saw your bought this book, "Suicide", and, well, we're just worried about you ...
>Did you look at the other titles I bought? I think after 25,000 years of that, suicide might be a good idea. I'll be exhausted.
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>>9418005
Please tell me more about the Nahuatl poets one.

Also, fvk yea based King Lear and Gilgamesh (aunque espero que estés leyendo King Lear en inglés)
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>>9419683
Sexy choices. Very sexy indeed.
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>>9425022
Probably my favorite book in the series. Yeah, I wish there were more as well. Very good story.
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>>9417900
are you by any chance still in high school?
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>>9425243
>For Plato I would say notes are almost totally necessary because the ideas are couched in stories, characters, etc. It's like reading a novel where you have to dig up "the idea."

That's exactly what constitutes being a good reader you fucking idiot. Work for it.
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>>9426754
No shit, why are you saying that like I don't know? The point is to shed light on his contrast to Aristotle, who lays everything bare without those literary devices.
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>>9426047
What do you want to know about it?

And of course the King Lear is in English. Haven't you heard about the Arden Shakespeare?
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It's goof month at my house
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I wonder why /lit/ is always going on about the meme trilogy, but in these threads /lit/'s always "about" to read them.
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>>9426882
How much did you pay for that Pynchon book?
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I have to get a bigger apartment baka
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>>9427643
>that penguin collection
hnnnnng
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>>9427665
Traveling all over the place I try to go to good will and take advantage would be poor if I payed retail for all those
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>>9420258
Gee Bill. How come your mom let's you have two copies of Hamlet?
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>>9419895
youll never finish hegel
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>>9420129
you know its just memes right?
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James Joyce = Trash
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>>9427710
I don't typically browse lit. It looked like a space filler shelf in a personal library, but it would be interesting if the guy had actually read them. I don't know what the memes here are or what the typical poster is like.
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>>9427911
It's easy, all posters are Ignatius J. Reilly and the meme trilogy is Gravity's Rainbow, Infinite Jest and Ulysses.
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>>9428005
I think you're replying to the wrong comment.
The one I replied to had a substantial Italian selection.
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>>9427596
Maybe 20 bucks? That's cheap where I come from, though. I'd buy it secondhand, but I couldn't find it anywhere.
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>>9427749
btfo lul
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>>9424247
>>9424336
>>9424431

Holy shit, write this. This is unironically a good plot.
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>>9419683
That should be a fun 3 years :)
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>>9428333

You think so man? I don't really know how to resolve it though. I'm pretty sure not even the antagonistic family has any idea either.

How should I end this? Reconciliation? Retribution?
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Mixed bag, but only $5 for all these at the local thrift. Light blue is The American Night, Jim Morrison, in case there are any Doors fans out there. Fairly interesting to get a glimpse inside his head.
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>>9417900
ready gatsby, dubliners and crying of lot 49 all this time last year, good stuff.
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>>9428179
Ah yes, I feel the struggle. I was looking for Anthem and watership down but could not find them. I was simply asking the price so I could compare the prices. It was 10$ at the used books store.
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First time on lit rec a new friend some good stuff
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>>9429054
mein kampf
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>>9429054
And I forgot my image
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>>9428487
This can be longer than a short story, man. I'd read it.
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>>9429054
Dostoevsky.
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>>9417900
9th grade English class/10
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>>9428487
>How to solve it

Watch Jordan Peterson and let the answers come to you.


Each family member must travel to the depths and revive the bones of their ancestral father in order to overcome whatever was holding back their growth.


Let die your broken parts and revivify the eternal spirit of man.

>The spirit of humility that can say "I am wrong. I WILL do better", and die to be reborn into something more pure than before. That is all we can hope for doing better than before.

https://youtu.be/XHakl2bMQYI
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Just got back from Value Village with these. Can I get some comments?
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>>9427643
Is that a real human skull?
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>>9429280
I'm usually disappointed by Signet Classics. The materials feel cheap, their covers are usually Wordsworth Classics-tier, and if they're fitted with glossaries (of Shakespearean English, for example) they're usually very basic. Penguin books share these characteristics to some extent but are better as a rule. If you're gonna study Shakespeare I recommend Arden editions because they have extensive glossaries as well as commentaries, and they appear on the page so you're not flipping back and forth all the time.
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>>9429251

How is some /pol/ meme going to help me write an actual piece? Please, do explain.

>Each family member must travel to the depths and revive the bones of their ancestral father in order to overcome whatever was holding back their growth.

What the fuck does this even mean, man?

>>9429136

It is a good premise. I'm hesitant to write it because I don't want people stealing my work. Also, I think it would be best written after I've fleshed out an ending that can make sense and reconcile everything that has happened. That is, unless I'm heading for a total tragedy in which the entire family is so stubborn that they are destroyed by their pride and hubris. I'm also considering an ending where there is a plot by the family to take the life of the estranged MC, but I've already lined up the family to be very devout; they would never actually do this. In their eyes, it would be a captial sin; ie. they'd be cucked out of heaven for doing it.

I'm toying with a few endings.
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>>9429458
Not that anon, but, how would you rate Folger Shakespeare Library editions of Shakespeare?

I got a pile of them from someone who was getting rid of them awhile ago, and just curious how they stack up against some other editions.
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>>9429520

>cucked out of heaven for committing capital sin

like pottery desu
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It's my birthday today. Decided to buy myself some books.
Too bad I have garbage taste
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>>9429569
not a total loss
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>>9429560

Yeah, it really does seem to take the general direction of an ironic tragedy, and I'm not sure I want to change that. It would be extremely ironic, however, if after all of this, the family was once again able to unite and accept the MC, they having ceased their betrayal, and he having forgiven them. Seems like a pipe dream, though. Its almost like the characters in my short story are living, breathing--they feel so real to me. I guess that's just what happens when you're invested. I guess I'll have the main character do some things, and gauge their reactions, and draw his own conclusions. He's a smart guy, and an excellent intuit.
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>>9429569
>Sanderson
>Gaiman
>Adams
>RPO
>The Alchemist
>Star Wars
Wew lad, this is practically the "How not to fit in on /lit/ Starter Pack".
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>>9429280
Waiting For Godot is a fun read
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>>9429569
Happy birthday but fuck off back to Redit.
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>>9429569
Well. You do you. You probably should've sprung for The Complete Robot instead of I, Robot though desu.
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>>9429477
Dónde estás consiguiendo esos usados en inglés?
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>>9429569
II, Robot is way better.
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>>9429569
The entry tier stack
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>>9419895
save yourself some time and just read the summarised version in the back of that edition.
then read a companion to hegel or something, i recommend cognition by rockmore found here http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft7d5nb4r8;brand=ucpress
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>>9429569
Try reading:
>Hyperion
>The Book of the New Sun
>Malazan
>The Greeks
>literally anything else

Really, though, take it from me, read something with more substance before you're old enough to regret the time you wasted reading pulp.
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>>9427706
Don't assume that just because you can't get through difficult texts nobody else can.
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>>9429520
He's not exclusive to pol.


It's a joke about the meta-narrative of self-improvement.

Since the story depends on the family's betrayal you can either have them be redeemed or damned (you could have nothing happen at all, but that won't satisfy anyone).


I think redemption would be more fun to write.

>Focus on what each family member would Gain from betrayal and what this reveals about them


Example
>One family member thinks that the increased wealth would make them more desirable to the opposite sex
>This person who wants money to woo a woman has an ideal and perfect woman in his mind
>This person dresses and acts like they have money and attract a gold digger (rather than his ideal woman)
>He either figures out he is in hell (the would be gold-digger creates hell for him by living richly and putting him in debt), what got him there (his bad assumptions about what would attract a good woman), and escapes [although not unhurt], or he doesn't learn and continues to attempt a facade of wealth and attracts increasingly worse women

That'd be one character. You can maybe have some of them be redeemed and others be stuck in their "hell"
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>>9429569

Really? This is /lit/erature
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This and Philosophical Investigations
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>>9427643
Did you steal those, anon?
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>>9430948
>Unendlicher Spass

Jesus, what a dumb ass title translation
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>>9427673
More people need to go to goodwill if they're looking for books. I go on Saturday morning to multiple Goodwills near me and always end up finding at least 10 books I have been looking for, and pay like 6 dollars. Fucking steal.
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>>9431154
How many boogers do they have in them?
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>>9431149
The title and translation itself is as close at it can get. Do you dislike the sound of it?
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>>9431172
Jest doesn't translate to Spass

Jest = Scherz
Spass = Fun
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>>9431187
https://www.dict.cc/?s=jest
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>>9431224
The primary meaning of Spass is fun, the secondary translation as Scherz is old fashioned and only clear when in context. The title of the book would be interpreted by a native speaker as 'Infinite Fun' due to lack of context.
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>>9429527
I actually haven't had any experience with those, sorry. I'm not a native speaker and I've actually never seen their editions anywhere here, I only recommend Arden because they're the only easily available and thorough study editions I've come across (but they are really good).
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>>9431282
student editions*
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>>9431157
All the ones I end up buying look as if they were never opened. I'm in the US anon, people only buy books for show and I reap the benefits when they die and their family decide to donate brand new books instead of reading them. That being said, I'd say they average about one booger a piece.
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>>9431355
kek.
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>>9426870
Oh, of course, I'm an idiot.

Regarding the Nahuatl one; how do you like it? What poets does it include? Does it include both the original Nahuatl and the Spanish translation?
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>>9431355
Are you memeing or have you found anything gross in your books.
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where's the bargain bin crew?
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>>9430966
Honestly , in college I did steal a couple , or I would go to goodwill buy a bunch of useless books for me and sell/trade them with local bookshops for credit at their stores or get the books they had hay I wanted , but mostly goodwill
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>>9431228
>generation kill

Loved that book + miniseries. Good shit.
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>>9431372
If I'm honest with you, pariente, I still haven't read it. But it's the next book I'll read after I finish with Hiriart's "Disertación sobre las telarañas" (which I highly recommend; it's a collection of brief essays, almost sketches, about many things, including the metaphysics of the egg, the beauty of the matamoscas, and the importance of "el instructivo" and "literatura telefónica"; very ludic essays).

As for the Nahuatl poets book: it includes parallel text, with romanized Nahuatl and Spanish. Miguel León-Portilla is one of the most important scholars of Precolombian Mexico. The book includes a general introduction, an introduction for each poet and poem, and even some maps. Among the poets, you may find Nezahualcóyotl, the most famous one, Xicohténcatl el Viejo, from the "región poblano-tlaxcalteca", and Axayácatl, from Tenochtitlán. I've skimmed through the book and I think it's a very good edition, well researched and translated. If you are interested in Nahuatl poetry, this is a good introduction.
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>>9429569
why would you even post this here, you knew what the response will be.
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Is there a better collection of HP Lovecraft's stories other than the Barne's and Noble one? I want to get them but I don't like how tacky that one looks or is it the best available one on the market at the moment?
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>>9430496

I've got an idea for another one.

>One family member sets up a major aspect of the charade, the central part of the whole thing
>It essentially rests on that persons shoulders
>This person knows they are doing a very horrible thing and they do it when it is unnecessary
>Only thinking of themselves, and they find time to gloat when it appears that things will go their way
>Slowly but surely
>Things aren't going away, or going their way
>Culmination in career suicide
>Cascading effect on the repute of that entire sect of that close family
>Now this person is known as the one who overstepped their bounds and paid a heavy price

AYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>9433300
Stfu retard

>>9424247
>>9424336
>>9424431

Unironically write this. Probably one of the better plots I've seen around here.
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>>9417900
88% sure they're all from Dymocks
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>>9417900
B-be nice to me, /lit/
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>>9434085
Australia/10
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>>9419555

Moderately educated old-school /pol/ack detected.
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>>9419895

>Hegel
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>>9417900

/lit/ must have increased the selling of the crying of lot 49 of like 400% in the last years
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1/2
A gift from my /lit/ family, sorry about the flash.
The 'complete' edition on the bottom contains Plautus, Terence, and Seneca.
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>>9424826
>>9424826

>Hamann

My nigga. He compliments Maistre well.
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>>9434171
2/2
Other half, except I picked up the Danish ones myself for free on campus.
Which Roman should I read first?
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>>9433115
There's one published by Race Point Publishing which is still tacky, though (in my opinion) not quite as bad as the B&N one.
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>>9434164

>muh dubliners
>muh crying of lot 49

Nice try, guys. I these book are good, but highly overrated. At times it seems like they just didn't know what the hell they were trying to say. I don't have my stack here, but I'd recc

>The Scarlet Letter
>The Count of Monte Cristo

>>9434171
>>9434175

>Which Roman?

I'd start with Seneca. He's actually very insightful, and because he was ill most of his life, he weighs the concepts of life and death and talks about how both are natural and neither is a bad thing. That being said, he lived to be very old for the times, considering how sick he was. It's refreshing to see how he never abandoned his ideals and beliefs on the verge of passing or under threat of exile. A lot of people can't do that, but he's the ideal in this regard. Quite respectable.
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The problem I find with buying fat stacks like the ones posted here is that because I'm constantly buying books a shit load generally get lost in the shuffle, so I tend to just limit myself to one or two these days. Maybe that's just me and you fucks can keep everything in order.
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Fat juicy stack right here.

Just need to finish the new edition of Nietzsche's Will to Power, released earlier this year.

What should I start with in the stack, boys?
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>>9434633

Swap Vanity Fair with Don Quixote and it's in good order.
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>>9418109
Plan to read
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>>9434633

>blood meridian

What is this meme? You know very well it won't apply.
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>>9434735

What did he mean by this?
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>>9417900
Roast me
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>>9434676
I did a study of Don Quixote in University in a class taught by a man who did his Magnum Opus on it for his Spanish studies.

This parody is considered one of the greatest works of the ages. To me that says a lot about humanity's instinctual understanding of comedy as both a platform of unrestricted critique and as a cathartic expression of ideas.

The critique from parody becomes cathartic when certain ideas are repressed (either by law or social pressure)- as they have been by various governments, ideologies, or religious groups through the ages and present times.


A common element of the greatest Gods through various cultures is that he is omniscient. He is all knowing. In the limited human form this manifests in how quickly we can communicate (meaningful) ideas order to overcome our problems as a species.

Humanity's love for humor or parody is an instinctual recognition of that spark of Divinity.
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>>9434771

I mean blood meridian is a bad book and has no CASE for basis in reality.
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>>9434633
Blood Meridian sucks.
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>>9434868
>>9434882
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>>9424826
>Attempt at a Critique.

What?
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>>9434598
I have a separate shelf that I keep my to-read stack on.
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>>9417900

Its almost poetic, really. You can delay the delivery, but the books will still arrive. They will be here, like it or not. All you've done is delay.
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>>9418343
>he can afford caviar but he chooses to eat garbage

This is the most patrician stack of anyone on /lit/
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>>9424247
>>9424336
>>9424431

Damn dude, I like this a lot. Its almost like Socrates addressing the Thirty Tyrants. Please write this. Just publish it for a few bucks or something if you're worried about people stealing your idea.
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>>9425896
Cyclonopedia is a waste of money btw.
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>>9435043
yes. From the preface:

"This essay is called an Attempt, not as though one had in general to grope blindly and feel for the ground in investigations of this kind and were unable ever to find a sure result, but rather because I may not yet credit myself with the maturity to set forth this sure result. In any event, this writing was not at first intended for publication; honorable men judged it kindly, and they were the ones who gave me the first notion of submitting it to the public.
Here it is. The style and wording are mine, and censure or disdain affecting these matters affects only me, and that is not much. The result is a matter of truth, and that is more. This result must be subjected to a strict, but careful and impartial examination. I, at least, proceed imprtially.
I may have erred, and it would be a wonder if I had not. What form of reprimand I deserve is for the public to decide."

This is Fichte's first work and he was very young. A friend who obtained his manuscript published it anonymously without his permission. The book received a good reception and people actually believed that Kant had written a fourth critique. The rumour spread so much that Kant himself had to weigh in and admit he did not write it but found the writing agreeable. This comment from Kant is what started Fichte's career.
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>>9419212
>The Book Thief
Just throw this garbage away. Trust me.
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That blurry book is atomised. One pic of my book shelf
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Are Wordsworth Edition books good quality?
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>>9436872
I'm enjoying reading it. Schizo/10
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>>9427643
why are penguins so comfy?

expensive af though
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>>9429054
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Men Kampf - Adolf Hitler
The Turner Diaries - Andrew MacDonald
Hunter - Andrew MacDonald
The International Jew - Henry Ford
The Jews - Hilaire Belloc
The Camp of the Saints - Jean Raspail
The Culture of Critique - Kevin B. MacDonald
The Jews and Their Lies - Martin Luther
The Decline of the West - Oswald Spengler
Hitlers Revolution - Richard Tedor
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>>9434823
>DostoJEWski
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>>9434823
What is that white book?
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>>9438427
Anyone? There is a sale going on in my local bookstore. And they have many.
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>>9438674
Wordsworth is not particularly good. I'd recommend to pick up a few classics to see if you enjoy their editions <<if>> they're cheap enough.

You'll also have to live with their world renowned fugly covers (not all of those are this bad, though).
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>>9438438
GOODWILL bro , or if you are around college campuses with local book stores , i usually buy huge amounts of textbooks @ goodwill sell or trade for store credit at book shops that have the books i want , so lets say 5 current versions of text books ill get 30$ and retail for each are 30$ , take store credit and buy the penguin books that i want for 5 bucks a pop instead of retail , everyone wins
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New to literature, r8
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>>9425896
>>9438431

Isn't that the French version of Suicide? Parlay vooz Fransays?

Great book by the way.
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>>9438931
Hombre, francés, pero no inglés.
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>>9439913
the lit there is good, ditch the self-help stuff
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>>9434562
Thanks for the recommendation, Seneca seems good. I like it concise.
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>>9439955
Fransay*
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Bought these in the last few days. A total of $10 more or less. What am I in for, /lit/?
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>>9438623
>The Culture of Critique - Kevin B. MacDonald
I still don't understand how they let him publish this.
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>>9418212
You just proved him right.
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>>9418163
START WITH THE FUCKING GREEKS
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Well I fell for the meme. Time to get to work.
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>>9419683
Guns, Germs, and Steel is so full of shit
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>>9422630
You cannot count to infinity.
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Feel like picking up some Japanese lit tomorrow along with another Krazsnahorkai novel. Any suggestions?
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>>9436303
I am really lost anon. Are you insulting me because you think my taste is terrible or are you saying I am choosing shit tier books?
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>>9440634
>A New History of Western Philosophy.

Why didn't you get the Bertrand Russell book?
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>>9440784
Not him, but you must be really new if you don't know the various issues with Bertrand's poor history. Kenny's is very good however.
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>>9440784
>Bertrand Russell
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What's the purpose of this thread? Are these stacks of your favorite books or stacks of books you recently bought?
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>>9440824
Stacks are usually physical "to read" lists. Sometimes they're also recently bought, but generally they're just the next batch for the poster to burn through.
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>>9440841
Ah okay cool, thanks senpai
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Jesus christ does anyone on this board read for enjoyment? 90% of these "stacks" make me want to blow my brains out
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>>9440877
What do you read for enjoyment, anon? I finished growth of the soil today and really liked it.
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This will be a welcomed relief after spending the past few weeks reading analytic
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>>9419212
God I wish that were me
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>Rate my unread books that I bought for virtue signaling
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>>9427596
>The Fountainhead

I had to read this in high school. It wasn't a perfect book but I actually really enjoyed it, and I usually only read fantasy and scifi
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>>9418090
8/10

>>9418343
confusing, 6/10

>>9419212
10/10, couldnt ask for much more

>>9419683
2/3, the meme trilogy was not completed

>>9419969
is the name of that book soon to be a motion picture? or is the work soon to be a major motion picture?

>>9420129
3/10
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>>9441010
It's the name of the book, surprisingly.
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I don't come here much. What do you guys think?
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>>9441071
That stack is god tier but also incoherent.
>>9441130
Dope
>>9440943
Jung is the man for those who know
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>>9434633
Who published that Blood Meridian?
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>>9438431
You're in for a treat with the Perec!
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>>9441010
IJ and GR but whats the third memerino?

Hypersphere ?
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>>9419683
>Infintiation jesters and gravities rarinerinos
he fell for the meme
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>>9439913
>>9440094
>implying you need more self help books other then Confessions
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>>9441147
>also incoherent
explain?
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>>9441432
Ulysses
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>>9418090
>Beauty & Sadness

Love that book. Kawabata needs more recognition in the west.
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