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Prove me wrong. Pro tip: YOU FUCKING CAN'T

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>you read any form of genre fiction
Fiction is the stuff of legends, the building block of mythos and religion.
>you think fantasy, science fiction, detective fiction, young adult fiction or horror are literature
They are better literature than some of the professed "classics" pseuds read
>you barely know your classics
Classics are by definition only read because a bunch of people thought they were good. This means that these people followed the norm of what was considered to be good, instead of experimenting with new authors no one's heard of
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
Notions of "artistry" in a text are pseudosophical self-inserted biases based upon what the "greater" artistic world at large would consider to be artistic
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
Everyone's experiences should be respected. All we have is experience. Analysis is secondary.
>you speak a single language
If you speak multiple languages you will not be able to master all of them. A speaker of a single language can master his thought processes in one language instead of being a jack of trades in multiple scarcely examined languages
>you read for the plot
What else would one read for? Even your pseudosophical notions of "artistry" can only manifest themselves when a plot is present
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
Philosophy is unfalsifiable drivel
>you do not at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
Not indispensable in the slightest
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
There's enough literature in western culture to last one ten lifetimes
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
>you engage in literary analysis in the first place
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
'Intricate prose' is another phrase for 'nice-sounding monkey noises arranged in such a way to get your chimp-brain to laugh like a chimp who just heard another chimp grunt in a certain way'
>your rarely read poetry
read above
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
The type of "creation" stemming from rhyme and rhythm is the precise aforementioned monkey noises designed to make your brain think that something amazing is going on. So not necessarily restricting creativity, but just redefining creativity to mean 'simplistic monkey entertainment'
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
>engaging in literary criticism
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight
>doesn't spend more time writing and thinking and creating than he does reading
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Please get a trip so I can filter you

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>>9382779
>being this mad cuz you have no counter argument
lmaoing at your life and your reddit spaces.
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>>9382774
>Everyone's experiences should be respected. All we have is experience. Analysis is secondary.
no the experience of noone deserves respect
for a fact it deserves tolerance at best

besides that i see not why one would try to prove wrong what is true
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>>9382774
Pretty decent argumentation, I get what you're aiming for.
I do disagree with your disregarding of philosophy as unfalsifiable drivel. The idea of falsification itself is a philosophical concept, so you would need philosophy to call it drivel in the first place..
Second, I do think that philosophy is relevant to literature in the sense that it trains your mind for recognizing themes and it gives you great tools to think further on these themes.
Third, I don't see how disregarding philosophy has anything to do with the rest of your argumentation. I would just leave it out next time..

Another thing that you haven't convinced me about is the language argument. I agree that mono vs multi language is a stupid debate, but I don't believe there is more 'value' in being monolingual. For example if oyur first language is not English, learning English opens up so much more to read and learn than any other language that it seems hard to argue for the value of sticking with only French for example.

But besides these two, well memed.
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>>9382774
I became an avid reader like three months ago and I can't stop. I stopped watching tv and I don't spend much time on 4chan anymore.

Here's how I did it.

-Remember the average person reads like zero books a year. If you read 5 pages a day, you are 5 pages above the average person

-Don't force yourself to read. Commit to read 5 pages a day. I swear after three days you'll feel like reading more and after a month or so you should be reading 50-100 pages a day for pleasure

-Read various books at the same time. When I grab a difficult book or one that makes me sleepy I grab another and switch. This should refresh your head. Keep them thematically different. I read economics and fiction.

-It isn't a race. Reading slowly won't make you sleepy that fast. Try to acknowledge what books are for you to read fast and which aren't.

-Buy the physical copies. When you get the books from your own money you'll feel the need to read them to avoid the feel of wasting your money.

-Start with books highly discussed here so you feel motivated to discuss.
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You actually thought I would read that Trump wall of text, kek
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>>9382789
Not him. You didn't put up any arguments, only your long and goofy opinions.
Here's a screencap for your trouble.
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>>9382774
>Classics are by definition only read because a bunch of people thought they were good. This means that these people followed the norm of what was considered to be good, instead of experimenting with new authors no one's heard of


Why do you think YA and Genre ficition is so popular? because it has literary merit? lol no, because a slew of idiots think they're good.
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So is this the copypasta thread?
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>>9382774
>Classics are by definition only read because a bunch of people thought they were good. This means that these people followed the norm of what was considered to be good, instead of experimenting with new authors no one's heard of
Moby Dick was hated when it came out and ruined Melville's reputation. It was only after he died that people starting thinking it was good
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