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That whole inside joke/ inside reference thing in literature really pisses me off. I hate books like ulysses which have to make every single fucking sentence a reference to something which you won't know unless you're a literary scholar or someone whose obsessed with the canon.
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>>9374527
The word you're looking for is allusion
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>>9374530
Yes. Thank you for telling me that. I do appreciate when people point out things like that to me, I think it's better to know than to keep being ignorant.
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>>9374527
I think it's fine for the people who get the allusions, but the problem is lit nerds tend to mistake this for actual quality.
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>>9374527
I've been away for a while. Is this copypasta?
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>>9374527
If it adds to the actual story and theme that's cool but if it's just for the author to wave his dick then I don't really care for it
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>>9374530
Or intertext
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The greatest literature is built entirely of allusions. Outside of these, it's all Hop on Pop tier.
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they're like easter eggs in video games.
you can still get through the book without noticing all the lolrandumb references.
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There are only 50 or so great works you have to read to understand like 75% of those references
Read the bible and you knock out 25% right there
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>>9374781
Not really, no.
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>>9374527
am I a dope for dropping the Brothers Karamazov over this? Everyone was referencing French culture and literature in the first chapters, even the father, whose whole exposition was about how what a pig he was.
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>>9374776
what is this list of great works?
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>>9374839
Yes, you are. That is one of the best books ever written, don't be a faggot and keep reading it.
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>>9374853
Second to that, this list even if partial would be of great help.
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>>9374853
Honestly, it's mainly just The Bible, Shakespear and the greeks. Specific authors may make allusions to other works, but the Bible and Shakespear alone will get you pretty far.
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Moby Dick and Blood Meridian are two of my favorite books but I have not read the Bible or paradise lost
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>>9374853
Are you looking for the Western literary canon, or the Western philosophical canon, or something else? Because these book lists are very different.
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