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>>9359073
or this?

read only what's termed 'orthodox', don't bother with any other heretics

>>9359073
You only need the one at the top. The rest will only get in the way.

>t. Protestant

>>9359076
>Lord of the Rings
>Catholic literature

>>9359073
>>9359076
Implying those lists aren't getting across entirely separate points

>>9359126
Lord of the Rings emphasizes a small scale, decentralized society; where technology, modernity, and empire building are inherently evil.

That's catholicism's subsidized wet dream.

>>9359177
>empire building are inherently evil
That's Catholicism's worst nightmare.

>>9359177
>>9359126
That and the fact that Tolkein explicitly said it was a catholic book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pio5pf-Eoi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxgsxaFWWHQ

Reminder that most Christians are not Christian.

>>9359114
I'm protestant too. I'm reading through Ezekiel right now

>>9359126
I didn't make the lists. I also don't think The Shack belongs in the OP list but it's not under my control

>>9359185
I just said that. The secular state should be small scale and decentralized. Only the church is the sole organization/political body that's unified worldwide.

>>9359195
You just said it was its wetdream you faggot

I'm saying Catholicism yearns for empire building.

>>9359188
That "bishop" is a hack.

>>9359199
That's what I juuuust said, Chad. The church may figuratively "empire build", in being the only worldwide organization. The secular state and other bodies may not.

>>9359211
And that's what I, twice now, just said was wrong.

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>>9359211
>That's what I juuuust said, Chad. The church may figuratively "empire build", in being the only worldwide organization. The secular state and other bodies may not.
And that's why there's never been a Catholic Empire ever, and why the Spanish never went to the Americas. For fucks sake you Catholics need to stop your LARPing and read both The Bible and some history. You guys have this weird vision of the Catholic Church entirely removed from reality

>>9359188
He also said he hated allegory; yet set the novels on a prehistoric earth, with the shire being where modern England is located, and all the aggressive evil emerging from the south east for conquest.

>>9359221
Yeah it's almost as if that wasn't allegorical.

>>9359226
That's like countering charges that the orcs are stand-ins for the Ottomans, by saying the orcs emerged from what would eventually become turkey in tolkein's universe.

>>9359252
It's like countering charges of allegory by pointing out that he hated allegory, and also that you really really have to try and hammer that round peg into a square hole.

>>9359256
It's a round peg into a square hole if you're a chinless, fanboy, shill.

>>9359263
And also if you're a chiselled aryan patrician. I assume.

>>9359256
He also wouldn't have been Catholic if he hated allegory "in all its forms"

>>9359265
I felt the wind from that whiff.

>>9359278
Anon do you maybe want to reread the comment

>>9359126

If you ever decide to learn a little bit about Christianity aside from the surface level mainline protestant shit you'll find out why the LOTR is Catholic.

>>9359076
second one is better

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Does anybody have some theology or philosophy recommendations for someone who can't quite seem to make the leap of faith towards believing in God? I go to church, read the Bible, generally love religion, but I can't get myself to really pray or believe. It's a difficult situation, being raised agnostically.

>>9359543
To add to this, I so far have been interpreting all the Christian religion as either a real-life, complex work of art, or a necessary organizational structure for western cultures and peoples.

>>9359543
Pascal's Pensees

>>9359543

I have a couple books you may like depending on your circumstance. Answering Atheism by Trent Horn if you're looking for a more accessible look at classical arguments for theism. If you have a little background in philosophy you might prefer Aquinas: A beginner's Guide and The Last Superstition by Edward Feser.

In any case I don't think any one book will convince you to believe in God. At least for me it was a very gradual process and I couldn't even tell you when I started to believe. I just had an interest in theology and because I'm always reading two or three books at a time I made sure at least one of them was related to theology. I think the best way to become a genuine Christian is to just pretend to be one, try it on for size and see how you like it. You may wake up one day to the realization that you actually are one.