Was he right about everything?

>>9337384
Hedonists are generally bipolar. His philosophy of personal indulgence is contradicted by his misanthropic life. While he did manage to, at times, indulge himself and have a really good time, much of his life seemed to be marred by resentment, anger and depression.

I really wonder where his son is these days. According to his biography, he named the kid Satan Xerxes Carnacki Lavey, but I have to image the kid got a legal name change at some point. He'd be in 20s or so.

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"I gaze into the glassy eye of your fearsome Jehovah,and pluck him by the beard. I uplift a broadaxe,and split open his worm-eaten skull."

Amusing >Right

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I used to be into this shit when I was 15 or so.

No, he wasn't. LaVeyan Satanism is just ''do what feels good man'' codified with some LARPing thrown in to annoy mom and dad. Sometimes it can be nice as an aesthetic, but the people who wear pentagram necklaces and read this book are typically gran autismos. It appeals to teenagers who consider themselves beyond their age and smarter than everyone else who need an avenue for their edginess. Those who keep LARPing into adulthood tend to be stunted manchildren.

As for the book itself, it's nothing special. I don't mind it sitting on my shelf though.

>>9337401
IMO people naturally prone to depression and impotence are more likely to create powerfully joyful philosophies to overcome that. You see this with Nietzsche as well. It does not make their philosophy any weaker. Those who have experienced misery are in some ways more qualified to identify ways to overcome it.

Like, of course someone who is naturally happy/comfortable will not feel a need for a powerful philosophy. They are already happy, so things like Christianity will appeal to them, because it solves the problems facing them--guilt, and fear of death.

Those with greater problems, like paralyzing depression, will need greater philosophies. But of course they won't seem to follow it perfectly, because they're still the person they were, even if the philosophy helps with that.

>>9337384
Would Nietzsche have been a Satanist?

What is the difference between Satanist and hedonists?

this book isn't about hedonism

it's about how to avoid neglecting the physical side aspects of life and to not let motherfuckers judge you


he says essentially that when you worship a god, you worship the man who created the god, so why not just make your own god and worship that instead?

>>9337586


satanists are people who realize that pursuits of pleasure will be balanced equally by pain in the end thus embrace the sadistic and painful aspects of life so that they are then better able to enjoy pleasure

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>>9337632
That's definitely an important part of it. Valuing the carnal over the spiritual, Satan representing indulgence over abstinence, and placing yourself at the center of the universe.

>>9337642
Sounds like Nietzsche to me

>>9337384
no it was jewish faggotry to divide the goys further

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>>9337549

t. lastman

>>9337401
Hedonism is correct, but only the utilitarian type.

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>On Saturday night, I would see men lusting after half-naked girls dancing at the carnival, and on Sunday morning when I was playing organ for tent-show evangelists at the other end of the carnival lot, I would see these same men sitting in the pews with their wives and children, asking God to forgive them and purge them of carnal desires. And the next Saturday they'd be back at the carnival or some other place of indulgence. I knew then that the Christian church thrives on hypocrisy, and that man's carnal nature will out no matter how much it is purged or scoured by any white-light religion.

>Satanism encourages any form of sexual expression you may desire, so long as it hurts no one else.

>Satanism encourages its followers to indulge in their natural desires. Only by doing so can you be a completely satisfied person with no frustrations which can be harmful to yourself and others around you. Therefore, the most simplified description of the Satanic belief is: indulgence instead of abstinence.

>Religionists have kept their followers in line by suppressing their egos. By making their followers feel inferior, the awesomeness of their god is insured. Satanism encourages its members to develop a good strong ego because it gives them the self-respect necessary for a vital existence in this life. If a person has been vital throughout his life and has fought to the end for his earthly existence, it is this ego which will refuse to die, even after the expiration of the flesh which housed it. Young children are to be admired for their driving enthusiasm for life. This is exemplified by the small child who refuses to go to bed when there is something exciting going on, and when once put to bed, will sneak down the stairs to peek through the curtain and watch. It is this child-like vitality that will allow the Satanist to peek through the curtain of darkness and death and remain earthbound.

Makes sense to me.

>>9338326
Bad Christians are no reason to abandon Christianity.

>>9337384
>>9337932
exactly, this kike was just making a quick buck by exploiting edgy teens
the jews want to destroy christianity because in a society with no morals it's easier for mohammed to fuck your daughter

>>9337384
No, he was wrong about literally everything. Also, he was not even close to being the best writer on this subject. Furthermore, he was Jewish. That should tell you all you need to know.

t. ex Satanist

>>9338326
Doesn't explain away how most hedonistic behaviours can be ultimately self sabotaging. My answer is quite simple, the creator is evil and I do not conflate that evil with some kind of moral good.

Reject the body and embrace the spirit, that is the essence of all religion. To call the creation good and the creator good is a failure to recognise the inherent contradiction. The body is the cause of sin, failure and the obscuration of truth. Spirit is not.

I believe in a higher God from which the spirit is derived but he did not create the body, the universe or anything material because that is the work evil and imperfection.

>>9338803
the work of evil and imperfection*

>>9337549
I would find Christianity to be easier if there was no afterlife at all.

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>>9338326
>Satanism encourages any form of sexual expression you may desire, so long as it hurts no one else.
>so long as it hurts no one else.

I find this a stupid statement; you always hear 15 year olds say shit like this.

First and foremost, where does this moral imperative come from? In the next paragraph it is literally said that: 'Satanic belief is: indulgence instead of abstinence.'. Where does morality come in, by what is it arbitrated? It seems logically inconsistent.

Secondly, what if my sexual desire is to rape, or hurt? Can I never find satisfaction under the Satanic framework then? Are sexually sadistic people arbitrarily denied access?

Thirdly, what does it mean to hurt someone? Physical malevolence is easy to ascertain, but what about psychological? You could argue that running a train on a girl or something can cause subconscious problems that will only manifest in the long run, and even then only subtly. Pornstars go off the rails all the time. Where do we draw the line?
A Buddhist might even argue that any form of sensual indulgence leads to dissatisfaction in the long run, does that count as 'hurting' too? Maybe then the imperative is to actually abstain from sexual expression as to not hurt anybody, including yourself, ever.

You can't say shit like 'as long as it doesn't hurt any one' without first establishing a moral framework, under which to operate. You need to define what 'hurting somebody' means.

>>9338855
Explain

>>9338343
>le false scottish