Favorite Bible verse. Go.

>his isn't John 12:24

1 Corinthians 6:9

none

John 11:35

>>9326465
Austin 3:16

>>9326529
>Glass breaks...

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>>9326529

>>9326465
>Go
It's not a race, you dumb fuck

God isn't real.

>believing a 2000 year old book written by kikes

lmfao you can make this shit up

God isn't real.

There is no logical or rational position in believing in a sky fairy.

Leap of faith is willingly admitting you are retarded enough to forego all critical thought because a book with old words said god made the earth in 7 days, lmfao.

lmfao

>>9326598
Bible and Christianity are heavily flawed but do you not believe that there is a a God of some form out there? It might not even be morally good or evil since those are concepts created by humanity but it must be there. Some being that is beyond our comprehension that is responsible for life.

>>9326607
>i have no evidence for something but i believe it because i cannot comprehend existence and must make shortcuts to why i cannot comprehend it

this is your life

>>9326612
>i cannot comprehend existence
this is true for everyone

>>9326616
and?

>>9326619
so your argument falls apart lol

>>9326625
no it doesnt

improve your reading comprehension

>>9326628
yes it does

>>9326583
That's not very Christian like anon.

>>9326607
no you idiot read a science textbook.

>>9326631
>must make shortcuts to why i cannot comprehend it

>>9326612
Evidence is out there. Your ability to sense evidence is merely inferior to that of other people's, and that's what makes up the difference in two different peoples' logic. Past a certain point you need to pay attention to more than what scientific cabbage heads write in their journals, and pay attention to the bigger picture. There's far more out there than what these mentally castrated individuals can tell you, and the more you can divine what's out there, the better off you'll be. "Evidence" basically a catch phrase for endorsing castration at this point, the castration of your ability to guess, based on probabilities, what's out there. And it's only because you lack the capacity to do so that you insult our way of playing the game.

>>9326659
It took us thousands of years just to come up with evolution. Even at that,it doesn't explain what was there before. And before that. And before that.

Everything came from something. But we can't possibly understand WHAT it came from. So why do you think it's so improbable that something science (again another human invention) can't explain? The only way we could understand is if humanity was to ascend to level of godhood like in Childhoods End.

>>9326713
again read a science textbook you dumbass

>>9326759
>I have no opinions or thoughts so I just get my intelligence from what other people tell me

No wonder you worship science so much when you're such a close minded individual. It's like a safety net for you that let's you sleep at night and because you reiterate what intelligent people think it in return makes you feel intelligent.

>>9326798
>believing intelligent people who devote years of their lives to specialized studies so that humanity as a whole can advance for the better.

>OH MY GOD I DIDNT SEE IT WITH MY OWN EYES I DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING U SAY HURRRRRR

lmao

>>9326858
You're actually such a retard. Im not even going to bother responding anymore since I'm 80% sure your shitposting.

>>9326465
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"--Isaiah 14:12

>>9326465
Jesus wept.

>>9326874
Yea you won't respond because you can't respond with any legitimate claims besides "there has to be something more! There has to be a larger meaning to earth!"

dumbass not everything needs meaning, maybe accept the fact that you're just a biological species like everything else on this planet.

1 Corinthians 10:13

I interpret it as God wanting us to masturbate.

>>9326598
>There is no logical or rational position in believing in a sky fairy.

>There is no logical or rational position in believing in logic or rationality.

Revelation 19:13

>>9326984
theres no necessary reason to believe the opposite you do realize

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Ezekiel 23:20

>>9326711
show me evidence

you cant can you

all im getting from you is vague sentimental cliches

lmfao

>>9326465
Ecclesiastes 3:11

>He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end.

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>>9326598
The earth is flat, faggot. Piss off.

Job 6:11

>>9326465

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

I love the berserk, spittle flecked rant that is Revelation.

2 Kings 2:23-24

Romans 10:9

>>9327137
Please provide an explanation for

The first cause
Abiogensis
Consciousness

I'll belive in God until these things can be demonstrated as emergent phenomenal of the natural world. But I doubt that anything will explain the first cause. The only evidence anyone needs to believe in God is to ponder the first cause and understand that something created all energy and matter in an instant. Who can do such miracles but God himself?

>>9327271
just because those things exist doesnt mean God does

LMFAO

>>9327250
Am I a pseud if the only books of the bible i've read all the way through are Genesis and Revelations?

>>9326465
"Come to me, all who labor and are heavy burdened, and I will give you rest."

–The Bible, Matthew 11:28

>>9327285
damn dude at least read the gospels. and Ecclesiastes while you're at it.

>>9327271
cognitive dissonance

>>9327281
>>9327297
All things are caused, it follows that the big bang was caused. What caused the big bang?

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>>9327271

The lack of explanations incite us to believe in a god, that's human nature, we used to have god's about anything we could not fully explain, in the distant past it was the wind, the sun, the moon and so on.

Evidence, when properly used is just a way of confirming or disproving a thesis, most enlightened individuals do not stop or discurage reflecttion about anything, especially something about this nature, due to lack of evidence, evidence is just the final "stamp" to label something as a relative truth.

When it comes to god, especially the modern and western definition of god i've come to a conclusion that is impossible to achieve consensus, it is a mater of faith, just faith

>>9327328
I honestly think that's the point, if God wanted to be known the He would be but I assume that he desires that people have faith in Him. (I only use Him in the cosmic dad sense, god probably isn't dualistic)

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And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.

>>9327342

Just for curiosity, does this god you think about has a developed consciousnesses, ethics and moral similar to yours ?

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OT: Ecclesiastes 1

17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.

18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

NT: Luke 23

42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

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OH WHAT A WRETCHED MAN I AM! WHO WILL RESCUE ME FROM THIS BODY OF SIN AND DEATH!?

>>9327327
Something that is uncaused (god), something that these faggots don't understand. However, the nature of this god is something we will probably never know, at least not in this lifetime.

>>9326465
OT is Psalm 137
If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.

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>>9327367
>muh unmoved mover

Go to bed, Aristotle. The beauty of some translations of the Bible has nothing to do with theology in this thread. We're talking about syntactic aesthetics

>>9327381
>There are people who read translations of the Bible for fun that aren't the KJV 1611 translation
how terrible

Stop trying to understand God, even negative statements are heresy.
>>9326607
Christianity is in no way flawed.

>>9327069
That's a badass one. Jesus not fucking around senpai

>>9327350
Probably not, I imagine an ifinite self aware brain. Intelligent infinity from which all consciousness stems from in a manner similar to fractal patterns.
God = the big daddy Mandelbrot shape and we are a minibrot many layers deep.

What's your take on it?

>>9326465
Job 39:26-30

also Jeremiah 17:9 which is:

9 "The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it? 10"I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give to each man according to his ways, According to the results of his deeds.…

>>9327391
What if God in its vast mysterious essence wants to understand itself through us instead of doing it all in one instant. What if this possess of self understanding has been repeated for all eternity just forgetting (pruning) the last time (thread) to make it new and fresh

>>9327412
>Implying an omniscient being can withhold knowledge from itself
Just accept that the Gospels were, even if divinely inspired, human works made by human hands, and therefore all too fallible.

>>9326465
Exodus 22:25.

Funny how it's part of the Torah. But when you understand how judaism deems non-jews as non-humans, but cattle, it makes sense.

>>9327384
I like the KJV as well, although it gets a lot of flack here because most Christians on /lit/ are Catholics, it seems to me. It's hard to find a good Catholic Bible, so many versions that get progressively more stultified to appeal to vague apostates.

>>9327014
>1 Corinthians 10:13
it says God provides the way out to each test, not quite that you can preset one to them all tests.

>>9327443
Hell, I'm Catholic, and there is no good English translation that matches up with Catholic doctrine. You've gotta read the Latin or, failing that, accept a translation that's beautiful but in support of Anglicanism.

>>9327352
>OT: Ecclesiastes 1
liked it.

>>9327271
The first cause is gravity. Shit melts together and forms suns. I saw this on some cuck's Youtube video. Not hard to explain, apparently. The Big Bang is a result of this. Everything forms at once, and draws together everything else to form a dot that explodes eventually, causing an outward movement and so on. A better explanation than that though is that someone created the Big Bang using some sort of technology. In the beginning though the universe was just a mass of floating energy particles.

Mormons believe that God was made through a human subspecies' effort. Well, we are made in his image, so something like us, right? They were the ones that made him, and so on. It's a pretty simple idea, but it's the only one that works.

>>9326465
Luke 19:27

>>9327424
An omnipotent being would have the power to make itself forget that it is God, and if it wanted to it could live human lives. Jesus didn't know he was God when he was a little kid.

>>9327522
>Jesus didn't know he was God when he was a little kid
And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?

>>9327536
>tfw you lose Jesus and almost fuck everything up for everyone

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>>9327507

Not really because then who made the ayy lmaos?

>>9326607
Why do people make the jump from "a God existing makes sense" to buying fully into Christianity? I don't fully understand it, although it sounds nice desu.

>>9326519
>>9326477
>>9326474
Post the actual verse instead of wasting our time

>>9327507
>the first cause is gravity
>saw it on some cuck's youtube video
>tfw YouTube philosopher's have solved the greatest metaphysical question still vexing the philosophy of science
>tfw millions of hours of contemplation and debate, reasoning and deduction have all been abolished by sciencebro on YT
shit's fucked up senpai

>>9326465
inb4 Zeke's donkey dick

>>9327570
Most of the ayy lmaos are enlightened beings who believe in the Father. Check out The Urantia Book. I don't know many more details than that, but I find it hard to avoid thinking that they are inferior to Earthlings because they live so long. Dunno.

>>9327592
Yeah he was some atheist debating Christians on precisely this point. Check out Neale Donald Walsch's books though. How suns are formed is common knowledge I believe, so his books don't go over that point, but everything else is resolved there. Getting bored of this discussion now though so cya.

>>9326465
Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Deuteronomy 25:11-12

"If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."

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>>9327604

Gonna be honest here senpai-a-lam the term "enlightened beings" rly seems liek the inocorrect term considering their perceived history of kidnapping Earthlings to conduct all sorts of weird experiments on them (with our governments permission supposedly)/Reptilians/"Greys" (who are just a "servant race" to other ayy lmaos) , the "hyper dimensional" concept of whatever these beings are also seems like a huge red-flag that they're not what they claim to be and even top researchers like Dr. Jacques Vallee, a French-American computer specialist with a background in astrophysics, once served as consultant to NASA's Mars Map project. , and even made a cameo appearance in the movie "close encounters of the third kind" even used the very term "demonic" to describe whatever these things are and would definitely fit that description even in biblical terms as their agenda always seems to be quite "anti-human" in nature. There are also numerous accounts of people thinking they are being abudcted in their bedrooms and then they started praying to Jesus and the experience immediately stopped of these "beings" would make curious requests like telling them to rip up their baptism certificates , etc. Point being that there definitely seems to be a deep spiritual connection to this phenomena and whatever these "other beings" are the very name of Jesus seems to have a very powerful and abrupt effect on them. Humanity definitely has a special place in the cosmos that no other intelligence/manifestation has in terms of it's potential relationship with God through Jesus Christ and the connection is definitely there even in terms of the occult and other long-standing practices that always attempt to "contact the other side and the entities that live there" in this same sense. Just my two cents the main focus should just be on Jesus anyway imo because in the end that's all that really matters anyway despite what happens in this physical plain vs. the eternal. God Bless.

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>>9326598
>Logical.
>Denying the existence of something you can't prove doesn't exist.
>Logical and rational.

Time to grow up, kid. Start repenting. Pic related is the ultimate red-pill. You're still stuck in tier two.

>>9327960
>that last brain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5baWgvEqbeg

reminds me of 13:09 to when he's done with his story

>>9327994
This preacher is some good shit and deserves its own brain meme

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>>9327130

1 Samuel 21:15

>Do I lack madmen, that you have brought this fellow to play the madman in my presence? Shall this fellow come into my house?

Sometimes I can relate

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>>9327950

also:

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

>>9327455
So what the hell are the NJB and NABRE, translated by Catholic scholars and officially approved by the Catholic church?

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>>9326465

>2017
>believing in a magical skydaddy
>not being a pastafarian

>>9327130
BLACKED

Matthew 6:24-- "No man can serve two masters, man cannot serve both God and Mammon at the same time"

Sirach 9:1-9

Samuel 2 18:33
And the king was much moved, and went up to the chamber over the gate and wept. And as he went, thus he said, “O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! Would God I had died for thee, O Absalom, my son, my son!”

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Agnostic here. I like that one in Song of Solomon that compares boobies to twin roes or whatever.

>>9326465
Ezekiel 23:20 For she doted upon her paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of donkeys, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.

>>9327285
Yeah, it's okay though. Read Exodus, Job, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, and the Gospels.

>>9326465

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

>>9326474
>Jn 12:24
Excellent /lit/ choice. It doesn't fit well with anyone in Karamazov; I suppose it was going to apply to Alyosha when Life of a Great Sinner was to be finished

>>9328046
THIS
IN MEATBALLS WE TRUST

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>>9328475
>John 1:1
Yes. This.

The Word is God.
That makes the will of God, THE will.

>>9327950
Most of them worship the Father though. Read those books I mentioned in my post. We are being watched by ayy lmaos as we speak, and they even progressed our technology ten-fold. If they were really so evil we would be screwed already. But I'd be interested in looking at your sources as well, if you have ones besides the Jacques Vallee dude.

>>9326465
psalms 88:14

>>9326465
Mark 11:12 - "since the days of John the Baptist the Kingdom of Heaven hath suffereth violence, and the violent bear it away".

>Implying you underwhat what this means

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Most Murcan thread evar.

psalms, 63:6

>>9326906
for you catholics you're actually praying to the devil

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>>9327183
you're half way there friend, it is actually on the back of 4 elephants which stand on a giant turtle

>>9327604
>science
>valid

Super obscure verses coming through.

>Their wine is the venom of serpents, the deadly poison of cobras.
Deuteronomy 32:33

>He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.
1 Samuel 2:8

>>9326598
I'm an atheist too, but if you have to live your life as an edgy fedora tipper and can't enjoy the poetic beauty of the Psalms then you have some deep problems.

>>9327130
Only good post ITT

>>9326465
23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.

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Proverbs 26:19

>>9327447
Well obviously it refers to more than masturbation, but that's the important takeaway here.

>>9326465
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

Isaiah 55:8-9

>>9326598
seeth thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope for a fool than of him

Revelation 20:2
Knowing that Satan himself gets fucked over in the end makes anyone happy.

>>9326465
Mark 5:9

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But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Why is there so much trolling within this thread?

>>9330831
Most people on this site are under 18.
(Or at least are mentally)

>>9326465
Jeremiah 33:3

From the Tanakh?
Or from the Goy Testament?
If the former, then definitely Psalm 109.
Highlights include:
verse 6 Appoint someone evil to oppose my enemy; let an accuser stand at his right hand.
verse 11 May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.
verse 13 May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation.

I don't appreciate the latter, and have no favorite verse from it to share with you today.

Changes from day to day. Today it's Proverbs 8:22-31. The Lord created me at the outset of His way, the very first of His works of old. In remote eons I was shaped, at the start of the first things of the earth...

>>9326598

I see you've read kirki and dawkins, which leads me to think that this is a troll post, albeit an unironic opinion of yours

>>9328037
Those are fucking garbage.
KJV is good, but not Catholic
DR is objectively the best
NRSV is the most readable, elegant, and theologically precise translations currently.

t. theology student

>>9333451
You mean RSV.

>>9326598
lmfao this guy is a fedora lmfao

I'm sitting here lmfao like is this guy serious? lmfao

He puts a line break after every sentence, lmfao.

lmfao

>>9333496
Nope, NRSV. (CE)

Wiki says
>Gender language
>In the preface to the NRSV Bruce Metzger wrote for the committee that
> “many in the churches have become sensitive to the danger of linguistic sexism arising from the inherent bias of the English language towards the masculine gender, a bias that in the case of the Bible has often restricted or obscured the meaning of the original text”.[2]
>The RSV observed the older convention of using masculine nouns in a gender-neutral sense (e.g. "man" instead of "person"), and in some cases used a masculine word where the source language used a neuter word. The NRSV by contrast adopted a policy of inclusiveness in gender language.[2] According to Metzger,
> “The mandates from the Division specified that, in references to men and women, masculine-oriented language should be eliminated as far as this can be done without altering passages that reflect the historical situation of ancient patriarchal culture.”[2]

While I understand that, theologically speaking, there is a very good reason to use 'man' and 'mankind', and that why the translators chose to "edit" the language is an entirely invalid (((reason))), it actually brings clarity to some cases where a male-only pronoun or noun might be confusing in English.

No biblical text should explain itself, and to have it in words closest to the original is much more authentic. Compare this to the NJB.

>>9326598
>>believing a 2000 year old book written by kikes
"Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, especially the New Testament." (Shabbath 116a).

>>9326598
>rejects Christianity on account of its ties to Judaism even though it is in complete opposition (and Jesus even died for that opposition)
>embracing ((((((((atheism))))))))
Lmao

>>9333451

The NRSV takes a lot of liberties for the sake of smoothing out things for modern readers

t. theology graduate

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It is the glory of God to conceal things, and the glory of kings to search them out.

I thou remove moslim hair and repourose his Woman.

Verse 14 dash 188

>>9326465
Coolio 16:34
as i walk through the valley in the shadow of death i take a look at my life and realize there's none left cuz i been brassing and laughing so long that even my mama thinks that my mind is gone

Honestly, Those Who seek god.

Machavelli is the Church as of the 1100's? 1500?

The Church is for a fact amongst other things no longer the Church.

You may dislike and disagree But You are Machavellian.

Why Dont You skip google and really learn about our history, Think about it very hard When You do.

Im going to give a Modern Clue, Why all of a sudden the MSM went against Russia with a passion and Why Russia armed its Nuclear warheads.

My kind friends, You are all fucked.

Christianity is no longer about building and creating.

Do not learn do not know about Machiavelli

Its not the Jews, we are the Jews.

GOD! I really hate to trip but I gotta lope
As they croak I see myself in the pistal smoke fool
I'm the kinda G that little homies want to be like
On my knees in the night, saying prayers in the street light
GOD! Help!

Deuteronomy 6:4-9
>4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord; 5 and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. 6 And these words which I command you this day shall be upon your heart; 7 and you shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. 8 And you shall bind them as a sign upon your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. 9 And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

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Ecclesiastes 10:2

The only Religeon who wont toss me off of a Roof for being Atheist.

All the noise the Popularist make.

What is to stop Extremist Christians from becoming?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ict7HVYlFs

Is there an argument in Favor of Extremism?