Okay, once and for all, what the FUCK was his problem?

>>9300931

I think...
he might have just kept writing and then realized he made something.

Just a theory.

wait so /lit/ doesn't like catcher in the rye? why not

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Okay, once and for all, what the FUCK was his problem?

>>9300940
I didn't much feel for Holden. It seems like it's one of those books you have to be in a certain state of mind or at a particular time of your life to appreciate properly I guess.

>>9300931
neglected childhood and the death of his brother

One anon pointed out how uncanny the similarity between the way Holden and Trump speak is, now it's all I've been able to think about. It's nearly perfect

>>9300973
He knew he'd predate a funny yellow man

>>9300974
I think you're supposed to read it a few times throughout your life. You're not really supposed to like Holden.

>>9300982
It's not really a big deal, just standard New Yorker rambling.

>>9300931
Well, he got raped by his teacher, no wonder why he's so fucked in the head.

>>9300985
>>9300974
i read it in high school, 13-14 years old maybe, and havent read it since. I think of it as one of my all time favourite novels, as Salinger was able to think and write how I was thinking and feeling about school and my parents and friends at that time in my life.

>>9300996
I read it in one afternoon when I was like 20 or something because I was given a free copy and it left no impression on me.

Aspergers.

>>9300940
It's a meme. Like IJ, 50% like it and the other doesn't

>>9300981
He was also molested

>>9300931
For starters, Holden's younger brother died at some point prior to the book. So his "teen angst" is rooted in something more than just Hot Topic/hate my parents shit.

His sense of helplessness and inability to protect his brother/others is probably the biggest theme of the book. It's as closely tied to the title's meaning as anything else, and the reason he feels a protective bond with his sister and many other kids he sees as innocent.

On top of that, he's already at an age where questioning authority and adults is pretty normal, and he feels betrayed or violated by role models in his life, like his older brother (becomes a sell-out), his father (a phony), his teachers (either insensitive or predatory), and so on. Instead of being helped by the people he looks up to, he clashes with them which probably leads to a greater sense of helplessness and his eventual mental breakdown.

>>9300985
>You're not really supposed to like Holden.

Normie interpretation. Do you guys not really feel sympathy for him?

>>9300931
he was bi-polar

>>9300931
Well, to start he's a pedophile.

I was disappointed that he didnt bang the hooker

>>9300940
Its too popular

>you're not supposed to like Holden

How the fuck can people think this is what Salinger expected? Holden is what your autistic pieces of shit would look like if your 4chan persona existed in real life.

>>9300931
if you'd actually read my diary you would realize its same as mine desu

>I took Phoebe to that little skating rink in the square, and she went on ahead of me. The entire time I couldn't keep my eyes off her hot, little, perky ass, wiggling from side to side.

Okay, WHAT THE FUCK did he mean by this?

>>9300940
Catcher in the Rye is excellent, /lit/ goes through phases of loving and hating lit but unironically I think Salinger is one of the more important voices to come out from America during the time I was around. Beckett and Updike were both pretty surprised by how much they enjoyed it. Catcher is taught a lot in highschool so yeah yeah highschool memery but it's leagues beyond 1984 or whatever other drivel they try to make you read. Salinger has this trick at being a genius and showing none of it at all

>>9300973
TIL that the Odyssey was published in the 90s

>>9300931
Holden?
He was a teenager on the cusp of adulthood, afraid of being indoctrinated into a system where, as he perceived it, people were inherently unhappy and mean spirited, but at the same time he knew it was inevitable.

I'll never understand how someone can read it and not get that. I mean, it's a feeling everybody's felt to some degree or another.

>>9300931
Its a cautionary tale about how nihilism leads to diddling your kid sister.

>>9301112
by whom?

>>9301759
The fact that he didn't left a lifelong impression on me

>>9300974
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0F8HVVACPNe

>tfw no Loli imouto to save me from depression
>tfw no Loli imouto to dedicate my life to
>tfw no lolu imoutp to rape brutaly

>>9301748
Fuck you. Shitty meme ideas on top of trip faggotry is too fucking much. Go neck you stupid attention whore faggot. Trip abusers deserve cancer.

>>9300973
Fagles' Odyssey is the definitive English translation.

anyone got the ego and its own on a PDF?

>>9304385
bump

i can only find it in french.

How did those Salinger stories get leaked, anyway? I'd read they were under lock and key in some security monitored reading room at a single prestigious library.

>>9304385
http://libgen.unblocked.cool/book/index.php?md5=E6513C684096962019F36912D706E1C7

>>9304586
Danke mein Freund.