Best of Iambic Pentametre

>>9279511
That image is some dumb shit. That's not how it scans at all.

SHALL i comPARE THEE to a SUMmers DAY

The rhythm is based on these alternating inversions of iambs...

Make it end.

>>9279678

I just stole a random image of the net. I should have double checked.

it's all relative bro

The best way is to write a few sonnets.

>>9279511
I used to find learning meter hard because I was terrible at figuring out which syllable was stressed, but I found an easy way to figure it out.

Repeat your word several times, each time emphasizing a different syllable (or honestly just saying one of the syllables louder than the other), and pick the one that sounds the most normal. Then check to see if you were right. You'll be surprised at how good you are at identifying the stress once you use this method.

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>>9279511

>>9279511
Take your Islamic pentawhatever and get out of my country.

>>9279678
God you're dumb.

>>9279678
>alternating inversions of iambs
What did he mean by this?

>>9279777
That sounds pretty tedious but I'm gonna give it a try

Thanks anon

>>9280848
Also nice trips

>>9279678
You don't have to necessarily read it like that. But it is Iambic Pentameter.

>>9279678
You are dumb. Shall I compare thee to a summer day is an example of perfect end stopped iambic pentameter.

>>9280165
Underrated desu

Sadly, still no recommends.

>>9279777
I'll try to use this technique. I have no clue where to double check whether or not I am correct.

>>9282079
Most stuff isn't written in perfect iambic pentameter because that would be boring. The nuisance and character comes from the slight deviations.

Read a book on meter so you can compare iambs to other metrical feet. I think this would give you a better understanding. Also these books have numerous examples that are scanned for you.

Of the ones I've read I like poetic designs by Stephen Adams.

>>9282079
Today I have awoken from my sleep.
toDAY i HAVE aWOKen FROM my SLEEP

That's 'perfect' iambic pentameter

Find a book on English verse that already has everything scanned. It'll probably cost a bit more than a regular book, but that's to be expected because it is meant to teach meter.

"I'll take a ham and cheese on rye and hit the mustard hard."
Perfect iambic.

>>9279777

my trick in school was to read it in an exaggerated boston brahman accent

>>9279678
its about volume not length broski-ski

>>9279678
No you are the fucking idiot.
I agree you should make it end and rid us of your obnoxious ignorant ass. One less useless cunt.

>>9279747
This is arguably more pathetic than the first guy.

>>9279678
Worst scansion I've ever seen.

>>9280165
as an islamophobe myself, i laughed

>>9279511
Learning metre is very intuitive. You come to know it when you see it.

Also, remember that it's always easier to throw in extra unstressed syllables than extra stressed syllables

>>9279511
Please suck my dick I do insist you bitch
Your fagness makes me sick but still I can't
Let go of it oh shit my dick just spit

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>>9283158
He is right tho. Shakespeare is a trick pony about meter. If you have money, buy this book

>Shakespeare’s Metrical Art by George T. Wright

dactylic hexameter master race reporting in

>>9279747
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>>9283158

>B-but that's not how you read it!
Please, none of you even have experience in music and poetry if you read this in such an autistically rigmarole daDum daDum . I'm a native English speaker and this is how it's spoken in all Shakespeare performances I've seen at the Globe and comes most naturally to me, so...

>>9283237
Of course it's intuitive, as if Keats or Shakespeare or any poets really took part in this massive autism like this:
>>9279777
The way to figure out metre is so easy, you simply read the line and intuit how it runs.

All this autism of apparently finding a Right way of stressing a poem is a sign of cosmic dilettantism, as expected per /lit/. Poetry doesn't come with accent marks and if you can only understand something so dull and basic as metre by chopping it down into feet you're really missing the point.

I literally just posted from my phone a rough scan because the strict iambic pentameter reading is so fucking unnatural and contrived.

>>9280374
>alternating inversions of iambs
If you don't know how the same foot can be inverted then you must have never read a poem in your life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substitution_(poetry)


The only mistake I made was in the first two words.

If you really read it "shall I comPARE thee TO a SUMmers DAY" it sounds like some kind of war ballad, and 'thee TO' --- god, how repulsively unnatural.

>>9283348
Even then the first two words can be read the way I put it. Especially if you're reading in Original Pronunciation, which is what is called 'west country accent' in the UK. I know because I was born there and speak it.

Really tending to think that this thread is full of Americans at this point, especially since the thread OP is such a basic high schooler's topic.

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>>9279511
OP, if you're still here, I strongly recommend this book. It teaches you metre from the ground up (syllables→feet→rhyme→stanzas→&c.). Not only will you learn iambic pentametre, but you will learn to scan all kinds of metres. A great book for what it does; it doesn't try to teach anything about understanding or interepreting poetry but focuses on prosody alone.

>>9283348
You're a genuine idiot. Here, how would you scan this line?

>A little learning is a dangerous thing

>>9283393
a LITle LEARNing is A DANgerOUS thing

>>9283406
IS a*


>hurr you're stupid but I won't tell you why!!! I'm

>>9283368
You *can* put the stress wherever you want, but sonnet 18 is *usually* read as perfect iambic pentameter.

>>9283411
>hurr you're stupid but I won't tell you why!!!
Because it is obvious to anyone with a fucking brain that it is impossible to pronounce two unstressed syllables after two stressed syllables in ordinary English speech like you claimed.

Literally come at me.

Some more propositions:

Prosody is best learned by listening to opera and classical songs and lieder.

Prosody is a thing for intuition and you can read poetry just so well without knowing a jot about this autistic nonsense.

>>9283426
Watch me!

>>9279678
Pls vocaroo

>>9283435
Yes, vocaroo the line exactly as you scanned it, anon. I would like to fall off my chair laughing.

>>9279511
Pushkin is a master of four-foot iamb; of course, poetry suffers a lot in translation and his suffers thrice as usual - but among his works, Eugene Onegin is rendered surprisingly well (Johnston). I personally also adore Turner's translation of Bronze Horseman, but it's technically imperfect and takes a lot of liberties.

After reading "Onegin", you'll think on rhytm for a week. It got so bad that just using rhymed four-foot iamb in Russia is considered a terrible amateur cliche on the level of "a jobless loser gets transported to a fantasy world".

Meter doesn't matter at all anyways.
Who cares?

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>>9283393
>>9283463
Still no Argumentation to be found.

Take a line of my scanning and stick it up your royal sphincter, you cosmic cunt.

>traditional scansion

My pleb alert!

How Literature classes teaches you to contortion yourself to read in simplistic big beats little beats, stressed unstressed. Nothing of this sort was deemed necessary apart from for pointing out abstract verse forms which you can learn passively just by reading a few poems. No good poetry is actually read in this idiotic way.

Iambic pentameter is one thing, but if you actually care to spot out the stresses and turn everything into a big beat or little beat you're not even reading the poem but trying to find the 'right' way, when there are plenty, why do you think Shakespeare was put to music in so many different ways?

>>9283623
God this board is so full of pseuds.

>>9283632
I know right? You should leave.

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>>9280165
Amen, brother!

What's lambic pentameter??

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>>9283465

Thank you for the recommends. I will definitely look into them.

I should have expected the thread to devolve like this - oh well.

>>9283623
It scans as perfect iambic pentameter. Obviously you don't read it out loud with autistic amounts of stress emphasizing the meter.

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