Illiterate literature

I don't know, it's quite unique. The first thing that came in my mind is Henry Darger's Vivian Girls

>>9246505
Jesus, that's totally beautiful, now I want to read that. Sometimes I think this kind of art is actually the only real art we can still experience, due to its absolute sincerity and spontaneity. I love such gems.

>>9246531
Yeah i see your point. A lot of artist tried a "return to the origins" failing most of the time. Outsiders like Rabito are totally detached from the market mentality, in their work there is just the primal need to express themselves

>>9246505
>Vivian Girls
is it even possible to buy this book?

>>9246531
>the only real art
You should spend some time reading fanfiction and self-published novels on Amazon. Romanticizing outsider art is pretty sad, you should read more.

>>9246765
seconding this

>>9246531
this post made me sick, stay-at-home mom tier, sorry

>>9246495
>Do you know any other examples of this (great literature from illiterate people)? I'm interested in this topic.

On the contary, find me an example of a writer who spent more than 3-4 years studying and wrote masterpieces. Example: Gass is a professor and his work is shit. Many such cases.

>>9246595
Yeah, the return to the origins is a big tradition of the 20th century. Just think of Picasso, his constant effort to "draw like a child". Works like Terra Matta and Vivian Girls are probably closer to poetry than prose, even they're autobiographies. That's what I really like about them

>>9246847
That's true, but I'm precisely talking about stuff written by people who could barely compose their own name on a page. People who brung out their inner strength, everything they had just to express themselves or tell their story

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>>9246879
>brung

>>9246879
Not who you're replying to, but I think you're both a little bit right, I just don't know if this necessarily constitutes as "outsider art" yet, and also if it contains the quality of good art. You wouldn't call Joan Miro or Francis Bacon outsider art; one has very childlike qualities (Miro), the other comes from an untrained (or even "uneducated" in the sense of painting) painter (Bacon). But both very closely understood the language of the medium and art as a whole, and both worked with paint every day to understand it. If Vincenzo Rabito falls into this category, I think it is equally pure and not necessarily "outsider art".

>>9246944
>both very closely understood the language of the medium and art as a whole, and both worked with paint every day to understand it
That's definitely a big achievement. You can be interested in thousands of things (you'd better be), but the greatest act you can do in art is to go deeper and deeper into the medium you chose as your means of expression

>>9246495
Homer

>>9247132
Unironically true, but besides him?

Roberto Arlt

>>9246879
>stuff written by people who could barely compose their own name on a page

so how did Rabito write this book?

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>>9246495
>including 718,900 semicolons

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>>9247319
>;

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>>9247285
He just learned the alphabet

>>9247379
That was his way of separating words on the page. Obviously the published version has spaces instead

>>9247418
...and he learned semi;colons

so how illiterate was he? being a peasant != illiterate swine

>>9247496
>being a peasant != illiterate swine
well yeah, I didn't say that

>>9247523
>any other examples of this (great literature from illiterate people

how is he illiterate?

I am illiterate and i write literature

i am interested in literature that disregard all the basic rules of how you write. Anyone got and good recommendations?

>>9247703
gass and dfw are written like shit

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no punctuation, paragraphs, capital letters etc

>>9247727
> forward by Negri

into the trash it goes

>>9246765
>>9246836
no

>>9247757
go to bed benito

>>9247794
negri is dumb, objectively

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>>9246944
>>9246986
So what do you guys make of Jandek then? He's a Kierkegaard scholar and professor of philosophy who's been self releasing atonal music for almost four decades anonymously.